for them today. >> and it is a tragedy made all of the more profound because adam and alison came from the viewing of channel 7. more coverage in the next hour. >> more on the murders of two journalist during a live broadcast in virginia. this is "outnumbered" and we have been all over the story on fox news channel. the gunman is believed to be a disgruntled former station employee. the associated press identifying him as vester flanagain also known as bryce williams. reports that suspected shooter has killed himself. fox news is working to independently confirm the death. we know someone posted a video on a twitter feed that appeared to be taken from the killer's advantage point. 24-year-old reporter alison parker and 27-year-old photographer adam ward were

killed. david lee miller is live in new york with more. >> harris, the legal name of the shooter is vester flanagain but was known as bryce williams for his air name. according to reports he moments interstate 66 in virginia. we know williams worked in a number of stations greenville, savannah georgia, san francisco, and midland, texas. and in san francisco he said i was hired as a production assistant, liked and able to come back after the texas fiasco, no explanation on what that was. it was a great experience, people were supportive but there were quoting him now some

crazies. it is believed he recorded the murder of the reporter and photographer as they were doing a live broadcast. in one hand he had a handgun and in another he had a cellphone camera. as you mentioned he shot dead 24-year-old alison parker, a reporter for wdbj. she was interviewing a woman with the local chal chamber of commerce on hew to improve the economy. you can hear on the broadcast eight shots before the live broadcast was tossed back to the studio. you hear someone saying, a woman quoting, oh, my, god. the reporter alison parker was dating an anchor at the television station, chris hurst, sending out a tweet saying we were together nine months and wanted to get married and just

celebrated her 24th birthday. and shot and killed this morning live on television the fro photographer for the tv station. 27-year-old adam ward who was engaged to a producer at the television station and ward told a friend i want to get out of the television business and do something else. the woman being interviewed is vicky gardner who worked for the local chamber of commerce and has been shot in the back aappare apparently. the incident that took place in hours ago in virginia has sent out shock waves throughout the entire country. this is a workplace crime. but here in new york city, a short time ago, the deputy commissioner for counter terrorism, john miller, said the nypd have deployed forces to television news outlets in new

york city. there is no specific threat beyond this incident but are providing on additional layer of security. repeating the headline at this hour. the man now believed to be the shooter the name, victor lee flanigan took this life. his name known to many television stations is bryce williams. he was shot and there you see a picture taken by wttg suspended.

but this individual had a grudge and wanted it to be settled before the widest audience. he wasn't content to commit the murder on live television at 6:45 this morning but wanted to document it and record it on his own cellphone and disseminate it by posting it on twitter and other sites as well. this is a troubled individual. the television station where he worked said he had a difficult employment history. and apparently according to his own facebook page, harris, it looks like he had a checkered past when it comes to his employment. one of the things he wrote about is when he worked in savannah, georgia, he said i love savannah and i fell in love there. so there are no doubt a great many people whose paths have crossed with bryce williams and we expect in the next few hours

to learn a great deal more about this individual. harris? >> david lee miller, thank you for bringing us up to speed on the investigation. but i want to bring this news in coming in of conflicting reports on the condition of the suspected killer. we had said there were local reports and it has been pretty widespread over the last 15- minutes he had shot himself. now the station is reporting the suspect is alive but in critical condition. we can firm up some details. the suspect is alive in critical condition. on "happening now," the general manager, jeff marx, was on air

saying i have to step away. among their pain and hurt feelings they are doing journalism. bowe beetle is here. are you with us my phone? >> no, i am downstairs in the newsroom. my sympathy is going out to the reporter, camera man and the other lady shot. we are discovering every minute more to this story. the post he made, the fact he did the shooting and was video taping himself doing the shooting, then all of a sudden he had that time period when he escaped until he was captured or killed that he was able to post this on facebook and twitter. this shows you a person who was really sick over this thing. a lot of things like this we

come across our desk all of the time of us investigating discorruptled employees. there should have been red flags with him sending e-mails and things. that is why it is so important for corporations whenever you have a suspect looking funny you should investigate and know. when the great reporters here at fox are on the scenes of demonstrations and riots i always worry about the person on the outside shooting them. this was a calm type of interview and look what happened. it could happen any time if a person wants to do this for his own purpose. >> bowe, it is sandra here and we are continuing to wait to get an update on the shooter's condition. we reported conflicting reports about his condition. and we are learning he is alive at this point. that is crucial to determine in the next few minutes. he is in critical condition we are learning. something we have learned about the shooter also is that vest

flanagin, his real name, reportedly alleged that parker, the 24-year-old reporter that was shot and killed made racist remarks to him. the general manager for the station he worked on was on "happening now" saying quote he was a difficulty person for a lot of people to work with. we are starting to see he did not have a good past when it came to his work performance and the way he was viewed at work. we are likely to learn more about this. but he did not have a good track record. >> i think the most important thing with twitter and facebook is we will be able to piece together how this developed into what happened now. and the people that worked with him will be interviewed. i want to make sure he was acting alone. that is important to check his

cell phones and communication. not that somebody was video taping him when he committed the shooting. was it one demented person? obviously the person is demented to do this. we have to find out the flags put up. were there threatening e-mails to the channel? what happened? who handled that? we do this every day. we interview and investigate things like this every day. and a lot have red flags showing up. he can do whatever he wants about racial discrimination but does that lead to killing to two people like this. that is crazy. >> it is andrea. it sounds like the law enforcement was hot on his trail quickly. i want to get to that twitter and facebook account. when you are investigating something like this, do you reach out to companies like facebook and like twitter who can easily give you the ip address of that person and you

are able to track them especially if it is on a cellpho cellphone? >> absolutely. there are other ways to go. but the police can do it quickly and get the ip and on the facebook and twitter account. i think that is what happened. the police don't need a warrant in the respect they can go in there if there is an emergency and murder like this. -- emergency -- they will piece this all together. i am sure there are a lot of red flags with him on other jobs, what happened on other jobs. if he walked around with a chip on his shoulder always crying racial problems every job he was out he was demented and using the fact he was black he was

being discriminateed on and kills two people like this. it is an outrage. >> before we go on, i want to get this little nugget of information. abc news is reporting it received a 23-page document via a fax saying it was bryce williams. this was confirmed and put out there 20 minutes ago. the first thing going to my mind is a lot of times there is a manifesto. we cannot confirm whether or not it was from him but it is part of the investigation. >> this could be the smoking gun. it is obvious to write 20 pages about his thoughts we are dealing with a person who was demented. this leads on to his thoughts

and in ad andsy of life and his own mental problems where he blames everyone else for problems. you have to pick up on disgruntled employees and this is directly leading him to be working at the station in some way and some time. he probably wrote it, sent it, and thought he would be blazing gloryy. we don't know if he shot himself. now he is still alive, we have two people dead and one shot, he could tell us all of the stories we wants, my problem is three good people are really hurt bad. >> another quick question. how do employers use this information from this case and past cases and how do you tell the differens between a garden variety association oh path who

is difficult and someone who is going to tip over to the other side and commit a crime like this? >> when we do background searches we speak to people in the company. they are hesitant to say int something negative but a lot of times they will say we had no problems. people are hestitant because they can open up for a lawsuit against him if negative things were said especially if they departed the company on a mutual type of leaving the corporation. you sign a release saying you will not do anything disparaging. so it is a tight rope act. if you start to dig deep and know former employees there and go after them and they give us the dirt. >> we knew early on out of

caution they said they would ramp up the security here in new york city at different tv stations and networks. part of that, i would assume to stop any copy cats because at that point there was no reason to think it was just this one guy doing it. the fbi determined this wasn't domestic terrorism. how do they do that so quickly? >> i think the fact the word came out he worked there and had connection with the studio and that eliminated the terrorism aspect. what you say about the copy cat aspect. remember the gold chain snatchers in new york? once in the news, then the snatchers go. now you can have gang members saying look at the press they got and maybe we can shoot a reporter during a riot and take credit for that. i worry about the online reporters at fox and all around

the country we hope this isn't a copy cat thing because of the news exposure it is getting. >> franklin county, you wonder what security is doing to protect those in the area. it looks like an isolated shooting, but franklin county school district put three schools on lockdown in the area. is it important while the shooter is in critical condition as we are told is it important to lockdown the area? >> if i am doing this investigation i want to make sure the shooter acted alone. or if this is part of more to come. until that is realized i think we have to be correct and be safe until we know it is

finished. let's lockdown and make sure it is right. when the word is out it was one person that did this and we have them in custody, or dead or whatever, we can go on. but it is something where it is not an overreaction. i feel for kids in school. until we are hundred percent sure safety is the better part of all valor. on the same twitter feed when you talk about who it could have been on soles media there wasn't a tweet that went out he shot himself. there is no way if we was on his own. they are still looking at that. >> you know what? we feel with a guy using two different names we might be dealing with a lot of the shooters. they are schizophrenic is the common denominator and we could be dealing with that here. >> you mention the resources of the small and medium size markets i know they are tight.

when you talk about sending security out with every crew i know i don't know if that is possible. quick thoughts? >> major news organizations should have security. i happen to be in the security business. you should have guys on they canned be weapons. retired cop cops are weapons on see someone in the crowd who doesn't look like. >> will you stick around? we have now newyork-presbyterian hospital information and want to get your thoughts. >> we spoke with somebody who did a background check on vester flanagain and what did that turn up? we will talk about it right after the break. stay close.

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the chamber of commerce. you see it there with the screen grab and unfortunately you could watch it and that sat online this morning and many of us watched it unfold. the woman on the right, i want to focus on her. vicky gardner. you got information. >> she was being interviewed by the 27-year-old journalist, alison parker, who was shot and killed. vicky gardner was transported to a local hospital after the shooting.

on the original viewing on air, you could hear screams coming from vicky and we assume alison but certainly from vicky. these women were screaming. this was a different point and that is after the shooting started. so what we think, and i can tell you from watching and moving and not just the still shot, she is getting shot as you are watching that and you can hear the screams. it is disturbing. if you flip the switch and turn it from the advantage point of the shooter and look over the barrel of the gun it is chilling how someone could carry out murder and shoot it with a camera at the same time if in fact he didn't have help we have no idea if he did. but we have no reason to believe there was anybody else there but the shooter. let's bring in a former nypd

detective and pat has been able to do a background check on vester flanagain. tell us what you learned. >> this background is not remarkable at this juncture. but we are still doing a dive on it. we will have more as it develops with the research people report to me. but the fact is he had some significant financial difficulty over the years and he had a few scrapes with the law but very minor. traffic law more than criminal law. we are checking other states because interestingly he has lived in at least eight states which is fairly remarkable but lived at multiple addresses particularly in california where it is just odd. it flies in the face of normal behavior unless you are in the military and moving around every year.

>> or a local news reporter and you have a sketchy employment record and you keep getting fired. >> was there anything in the background check you would have seen that would have kept him from legally purchasing a firearm? >> we have seen so far, no. i have to say no. the facts we know at this juncture so early but some of the states don't report direct repostory on federal and state and local crimes and convictions so we have to go into the court house but it is not a problem. we do it every day of the week. he is the principal owner of a corporation as well -- principle -- of a muscle club. i believe -- >> what is that? >> at first i thought it might have been related to bodybuilding but i think it is related to muscle cars.

a car enthuist. >> they were driving a gray mustang when looking for him and the then governor let us know there was a pursuit going on and we learned within minutes there wasn't a pursuit going on and we know why now. we know he has been shot and we know he has been hospitalized in critical condition. i want to ask you about the name bryce williams and i know people on air pick a name but is there any significance to it?

we are looking at a few different things. it is taking shape and it is such a shocking event. it is hard to believe because we

are not hearing about someone who knew him better. are you looking at friends and family? >> we connect the investigative crumbs in the grid and look into family members and neighbors and colleagues and co-defendants if they exist. the case has been on the air for a time. it is very, very strange. very strange, very strange, very strange. but the case, shooting, the filming of, i am not convinced there is not the co-conspirator or another hand involved in this. logically and pragmatically and so forth related to the known facts it wouldn't shock me if there is a co-conspirator or

complicity with another individual the facts don't support that. we are looking to him and trying to peel back of layers of the onion to the extent that the end -- >> i appreciate you doing that. and we bring into focus what is going on. we appreciate it, pat brown isn't formerly with the nypd and as you do more background checking into the suspect we will bring it to our viewers. sandra is making me aware there is a news conference planned, coming up shortly, looks like it will be 2:00 p.m. eastern so fox news will have that. also we have heard from the general manager of the television station who lost two employees today, killed live on television. the reporter and her photographer. she spoke moments ago about why

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sped away from the trooper. they ran off the road and crashed with the troops -- troops approached the vehicle and found himself in a gunshot wound. he is already hospitalized in critical condition. the statement goes on to say that male drivers believe to be the same male suspect who shot three people this morning in franklin county during a television news interview with the franklin county sheriff's office will hold the news conference at 2:00 p.m. eastern. i was bringing that information, they changed the time a couple times. we heard earlier the generalman station moments ago spoke again and he is being asked about the man you see in the middle of the screen, vester lee flanagan, a a a bryce williams was his on-air name, he worked for the tv

station, a disgruntled employee, why did you release him? watch. >> vester lee flanagan was an unhappy man. we employed him as a reporter and he had some talent in that respect and some experience though he had been out of the business for awhile when he was hired here. he quickly became -- gathered a reputation as someone who was difficult to work with. he was sort of looking out for people to say things that he could take offense to. eventually after many incidents of his anchor coming to the 4 week dismissed him. he didwe dismissed him.

he did not take that will. >> vester lee flanagan was an unhappy man. we spoke with bo dietl earlier, he is in the newsroom standing by helping with this coverage today. to give some perspective what police would have been looking at and one of the things you said early on is there were definitely red flags. there were moments in this person's history likely, people would have had difficulty with him. your thoughts on that? >> when you conduct an investigation you find out why he left and a lot of times employers will not tell you but people who left, you can interview them. the motive obviously is coming out right now that this guy was a very angry man and one other thing, i made noticed that some of the photographs, the man is in strong shape, big biceps on him. i think he is a body builder.

as far as the motive behind it we are starting to establish he was a very deranged person, very angry person, the reason for the different jobs were very obvious. like a reporter you go to different small localities and he would be moving around like that with different jobs. when you do a database surge on him you find different places where he worked and also different locations where he the lived and this could not have been seen joy that he is going to come back and kill these people. this is an anomaly and we could all point things but what you have to do when a person is fired like this it has to be known that if anyone asked a question you have to tell the truth why he was dismissed and it comes into play all of the -- the employer could get sued, baloney. if someone is doing the wrong thing in a corporation the corporation should say be dismissed him for this reason, this reason and this reason.

why should someone else take this person on for a job? is not fair to that company taking the lawn. >> talk about how you classify something like this? we have seen a lot of questions. there have been reports that the shooter believed there were racist remarks made against him. when you are investigating this and a member of the police force out to you classify something like this? is this a crime? is this someone who is in sane? are at a mutually exclusive things? >> you talk about the police investigating here. when he was dismissed he wasn't dismissed under criminal charges. he was dismissed because of his actions in the company said that would not be a criminal charge. the real detectives, people employed by the police wouldn't be investigating. they escort him out of the business, if we have a disgruntled employee where people are afraid we escort him out but we do not arrest him.

he is not placed under arrest. they say you are out of your job, that is as far as it goes. the police wouldn't do anything unless there were e-mails saying i am going to get you, i am going to kill you, then you can make a criminal police report and police follow through battle lot of times people don't report it and we get these e-mails, these twitters and all that kind of thing on facebook, we start to investigate and we see a lot of times and detective out to talk to the guy, what is your problem? you, keep sending e-mails, next time i will advise you are going to get locked up and got to deal with them before they get this power trip where they are not being answered. >> how do you classify what happened today? >> i would classify it as a person who committed two murders. i won't classified as a hate crime, i won't classify it more than what it was, a man committed the murder of two people and shot another week,

classified as a murder, not a terrorist act. which he is white or asian or black, this is disgruntled person, disgruntled employee. >> we will ask you to stand by in the newsroom for continuing coverage but i can tell you part of what we heard about this guy from profilers and the like is he liked the spotlight. this was the sensational fashion in which he carried this out. up profiler will join us next to talk about this suspect and what made him take. stake close. . stake close.

>> suspected shooter of the taliban and news reporter and photographer is hospitalized in critical condition and what we can tell you is the man on the left of your screen and a gunshot wound. police found that out when his car crashed on the interstate in virginia after they had been chasing him. and the people we lost today,

young reporter and photographer, a station in morning, another woman being interviewed live is hospitalized in stable condition. we focus on those, the man the police say carried this out. bring in mary ellen o'toole, a former fbi criminal profile with one key question. this was carried out in sensational fashion. what can you tell us about vester lee flanagan? >> based on the information released so far he would be classified ads a dangerous injustice collector, the person who goes through life and feels they are insulted or put down all the time and their response to that perception is the they overreact. this is not snapping behavior, this is not real quick just thought about it yesterday behavior. he thought about and plant this for a very long time and it is

completely disproportionate in terms of its egregious to whatever this week to reporters and camera men had done to him. >> interesting you say that. when you consider what the general manager of the television station just said after they let him go after they released him they had to get police escort him out of the building and it was you who asked what do you do with a guy like that? could you think anything like this would follow? >> you really don't because nine times out of ten it is not going to happen but what we do suggest to companies and businesses that have an employee like this, the fare very concerned about enough to have the police on standby is stay in touch on a regular basis, check in with them, how are you doing teach you what is going on, you have to make their separation from the company very

delicate because they can't end of doing something like this. is rare but in cases where it happens obviously it is very tragic. >> you were talking about disproportionate emotional response to these injustice collectors, that sounds a lot like borderline personality disorder. is that something employers should be concerned with and administer psychological tests before they hire certain people? >> borderline personality disorder is a very distinct flawed personality. this is quite different. these people can present very very well in a work environment but they are somewhat paranoid, always looking for that person or persons around and they think have consulted them, it is not at all iraq did you would see in a borderline personality. this person was able to control

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>> we are waiting for news conference in the next hour from local authorities in franklin county, va.. hopefully at that time we will learn more about the suspect and what happened a few hours ago on the air wife. a reporter gunned down. we were able to see it happening shortly after 7:00 a.m. and was put on line by somebody who said they were tweeting from an account associated with the suspected shooter from the vantage point of the killer. let's go to bo dietl, our former nypd detective who has been with us this hour to help break this down a you have a specific spot. >> listen to the station manager, they bend over backwards for this guy but finally got to the point they had to let him go. how did he know at 7:00 in the morning that that reporter would be at that location? it is obvious someone is on the inside and that hat i want to find out, where that reporter

would be. she did not show up by circumstance. he showed up because someone let him know that reporter was going to be there. i would like to investigate who want the inside gave this information out. >> a lot of times they do it a few breaks before the commercial is coming up. for that kind of planning he would have to have known other details. when we come back remembering the victims. stay with us.

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>> we lost adam word, engage to a television producer, allison parker, 24, dating whenever co-workers, a morning show anchor. our prayers to them and their families. vicki garner is fighting for her life. stay with us. >> we begin with the fox news alert. >> new details of the shocking on air murder of the two individuals in virginia. i am jon scott. >> and i am jenna lee. vest er lee flanagan who worked as a reporter under the name of bryce williams is hospitalized of gun shot wounds. he is accused of gunning down alison parker and photographer adam ward early this morning as they conducted a zou live o