what do you think about the "black lives matter" movement? go to facebook.com/the kelly file and follow me on twitter @megyn kelly. i'm megyn kelly, this is "the kelly file." they're the videos that shock the nation. who does this? what civilized culture? does this? are they selling body parts? >> this is selling while pretending not. >> or worse. >> are you accusing some of these doctors of murder? >> will it change the debate about adoration in this country. >> been screaming about this for

30 years now. >> will supporters fight back? >> i will continue to fight for and uphold a woman's right to choose including defending planned parenthood. >> fox news reporting, planned parenthood, the hidden harvest. shannon bream. >> they call themselves investigative journalists the tactics they employ would probably get them fired in most newsrooms. as guerilla fighters. the people who work at the centers for medical progress have made front pages and the videos they've released have got everyone talking. before we continue, a warning. some viewers may find the material in this program disturbing. >> i'm going to crush the wall -- >> this is dr. debra nukatola planned parenthood's senior director of medical services

discussing how her organization helps ensure aborted fetuses can be properly harvested for medical research. >> 30 to 100 price is per specimen, right? >> yes. >> on july 14th the video seemed to come out of nowhere to shock america. but it was the culmination of years of work for 26-year-old david deleiden. he had been a prolife activist in high school. the message beneath his senior picture. vote pro life, what god wants you to do. in college he joined a prolife group headed by lila rose. >> let's talk about live action. the precursor to a lot of what we're seeing today. >> starting investigative work at live action was really because i saw just this complete lack of discussion about what was really happening at planned parenthood and in the abortion industry. the only thing that you would hear is something positive at how planned parenthood is helpful to women. >> i was the director of

research for live action from 2008 to 2013. in that capacity i helped construct most of the undercover projects that they did. i'm definitely proud of the work we did together. >> three years ago they collaborated on a sting that sounds awfully familiar. a woman posing as a donor to planned parenthood began asking questions about federal funding for abortions, questions so suspicious that planned parenthood set up a surveillance camera to catch her next visit. the tape ended up in the hands of california attorney general camilla harris. no charges were filed but the sting was exposed. for delidden it was a valuable learning experience. >> i think we developed novel and investigative journalism approaches especially with this issue in particular. >> he and rose parted ways not long after the failed sting. he had a new idea, a covert operation looking into the buying and selling of fetal tissue. one of the people he called was

troy newman, the controversial leader of anti abortion group operation rescue. >> save these babies from certain death. >> it was a very interesting, elaborate sting operation. did you counsel him on that? >> i can't walk into a planned parenthood. i have been in the pro life movement for over 25 years. they have -- they will surely recognize me. here is this young, very bright, very courageous, very faithful young man mapping out this idea, and so we hit it off very, very well and we began to discuss all the various techniques he would use to infiltrate planned parenthood. >> did you start having planning sessions at that point about how he would carry it out? it would be a disciplined and long-term operation? >> we wanted to catch them off script. what do abortionists say having lunch over salad and a glass of wine. that was the idea. alternate identities had to be set up. alternate companies had to be set up. >> deleiden founded the center

for medical progress, or cmp. >> it's a vague-sounding name that could mean many things. >> it was started as a charitable trust. deleiden founded a company called biomax procurement services and enlisted people to represent biomax. >> these are people, whoever you have posing as buyers, who clearly have in-depth medical understanding and education, seems like. >> the center for medical progress shows they intelligent, creative, adaptable people to do this work. there was a lot of really intensive training and preparation that went into preparing them to actually go undercover. >> you have to be able to talk like them. you have to know the information sometimes better than they do. they had to be very well versed in medical technology, medical terminology, the medical procedures, anatomy and so forth. >> how did you all come up with the 21st century technology to walk into these places, to be

able to record the conversations in a way you felt was reliable? >> it's as simple as a google search and a credit card. the equipment was high-quality law enforcement type equipment. it's not going to fail at the critical moment. ♪ ♪ >> with everything in place, the infiltration proceeded more smoothly than expected. >> it was definitely surprising to myself and to some of the other investigators on the team that, when our investigators basically said two things to planned parenthood representatives, number one, you know, we love abortion, we think what you do is great, you know, thank you, and number two, we want to harvest your baby parts and sell them and pay you money in exchange for that, those two statements were like the magic words that got us in the door. and planned parenthood was happy to welcome one more biotech company to the table to harvest and sell baby parts. >> i'm glad we were finally able to connect. i know it's been difficult.

>> yeah. >> before too long deleiden found himself at a big meeting at a posh l.a. bistro with the doctor we saw earlier. >> you want to break even. if they can do better than break even and do so in a way that seems reasonable, they're happy to do that. >> overall deleiden says his group shot about 300 hours of video. the entire project had taken two and a half years but deleiden was finally ready on july 14th to make public his undercover work. >> there are no guidelines. >> not written. >> no. there are guidelines on research but there are not guidelines on tissue procurement. there will never be guidelines. >> dr. nucatola said, when possible, she would help facilitate the procurement of specific fetal tissue during the actual abortion procedure. >> i'll actually collect what you want sometimes. >> you actually do the collection? >> if i see it, yeah. >> why not. >> for sure.

to me, i don't know, i just -- it makes the procedure that much better, like i've just done something even better. if you maintain enough of the dialogue to the person actually doing the procedures may understand what the end game is -- >> the video caused a fire storm. we should note that we tried repeatedly to get planned parenthood to respond on camera to the controversial. the organization and several of its surrogates declined our invitation. however, the first video prompted an immediate public response from the president of planned parenthood. >> i want to be really clear. the allegation that planned parenthood profits in any way from tissue donation is not true. our donation programs, like any other high-quality health care provider's follows all laws and ethical guidelines. >> but it was only the first video. deleiden and the center for medical progress were just getting warmed up. >> in the second video we released, that's a lunch meeting with dr. mary gatter who was a

long time director of planned parenthood los angeles. >> figure out what others are getting. if it's in the ballpark and it's fine. >> dr. gatter was actually haggling over the compensation price that a middle man biotech company should be paying to her planned parenthood affiliate in exchange for intact fetal specimens. >> using a less crunchy technique to get more whole specimens. >> i want to go back to your most basic statement is that they are selling body parts. again, they say there is no direct evidence of that, that there are repeated times during these videos that we've seen so far that the doctors talk about this not being about revenue, this not being about selling, that they make that clear and that there is nothing so far that you have released that proves that they've broken any federal laws. >> at the end of the day money goes in to planned parenthood and baby parts come out. if you look at what they're

actually doing and how their business is actually structured, it becomes clear that they're profiting off of the sale of the body parts of the babies that they abort. >> planned parenthood was now on the defensive, but the next video deleiden released was to many the most shocking yet. of . that's why i take meta. meta is clinically proven to help lower cholesterol. try meta today. and for a tasty heart healthy snack, try a meta health bar. nobody's hurt, but there will you totalstill be pain.new car. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do, drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. new car replacement is just one of the features that come standard with a base liberty mutual policy. learn more by calling

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♪ ♪ david deleiden put out two videos that got everyone talking, but the third released july 28th still came across as a bombshell. >> the third video, our investigators are shown in the abortion clinic's path lab with the doctor who is the vice president and medical director for planned parenthood of the rocky mountains. >> they discuss intact specimens, in other words, an aborted fetus with all its parts. >> intact is probably less than 10%. >> less than 10%. >> sometimes, you know, if we get, if someone delivers before we are able to see them for a procedure then we are intact. but you'll never know. >> but that's not -- >> also in the video deleiden

introduces 24-year-old holley o'donnell as a former employee of stem express a company that buys fetal tissue from planned parenthood. >> i thought i was just going to be drawing blood, not procuring tissue from aborted fetuses. >> she describes her shock as what she says she saw there. >> the moment i took the tweezers, i put them in the dish, i remember grabbing a leg, and i said this is a leg, and the moment i picked it up, i could just feel, like, death and pain. never felt that before like shoot up through my body. and i started to -- i blacked out. >> when deleiden created his front company, biomax procurement services it was in the mold of stem express. the video captures biomax operatives at a planned parenthood lab hoping to duplicate the experience of stem express representatives. >> that's the heart. yeah.

>> here is the heart. >> my fingers will smush it if i try to pick it up. >> a heart over there. >> would you call that intact? >> these are intact kidneys, yes. >> if i looked at that, i would be like, that's good to go. >> yeah. >> five stars. >> in the next video we see a woman identified as melissa ferrell, director of research or planned parenthood gulf coast in houston discussing whether abortions can be performed to harvest certain parts of the fetus. >> yeah. so, if we alter our process and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. that's -- it's all a matter of line items. >> do you think that that is going to be one of the toughest

things for planned parenthood and for those involved to explain because we know under federal law you can't change the timing or procedure of an abortion for the specific purpose of harvesting these parts. >> yeah. i think it's frankly impossible for them to explain. and if you look at the statements from planned parenthood, they still have yet to address at all the claim in the very first video that their senior director of medical services was using partial-birth abortions in order to get higher quality body parts from the babies that she was aborting. >> my understanding is that, for those specimens to be sellable, to use for research, you can't have used certain drugs in utero to have caused the death of the child. to end that life. how does that work, then, if you end up with a fully intact fetal cadaver that's available for sale and research? >> that's exactly the question that law enforcement across the country need to be asking of

planned parenthood leadership. >> some of the scenarios that we're talking about here would involve a child that is alive at some point during the delivery, makes it out of the womb. the c and at some point is killed either during the harvesting of organs or dies in the pathology lab. are you accusing some of these doctors of murder? >> absolutely. it's not just my accusation or allegation. it's their own words. in the third video we released dr. gusty winda is clear that occasionally they have a late trimester patient that quote delivers before the clinic gets to see the patient. they admitted sometimes the doctors have been able to get intact specimens and it's something they could do for tissue procurement. >> a powerful accusation and planned parenthood supporters didn't wait long to make accusations of their own. more on that later. when we return we look at how planned parenthood got to be the organization at the center of so much controversy. try the superior hold...

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planned parenthood's roots go back to 1916 with the social activism of its founder and first president margaret sanger. >> margaret sanger was an early to mid 20th century figure who championed birth control. contraception. >> professor robert george teaches constitutional law, legal and political philosophy and bioethics at princeton university. >> she wanted to make birth control more widely available, so that there would be fewer, quote, unwanted, quote, children. >> sanger is a controversial figure today because of hir apparent support for birth control as a way to limit the number of what she saw as

inferior people. >> she cared about who was having the children. she thought there were some people who should be having children or several children but other people who shouldn't be having children. >> many opponents claim she was a racist whose ideas were at the base of planned parenthood. while supporters reply she was fighting for the empowerment of women and her backing of what were widespread ideas at the time is overstated. wherever she stood, preventing certain children from being born was on her mind to the last as this 1957 interview with mike wallace suggests. >> do you believe there is such a thing as a -- as sin? >> i think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world that have -- diseased from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being, practically, delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things. marked when they're born. that to me is the greatest sin. >> in the early years of planned parenthood the planning was

about birth control. >> as late as the early 1960s planned parenthood itself was sharply and publically distinguishing abortion from contraception. >> throughout the '60s and early '70 that was a nationwide debate on adoration. some say it's liberalized their laws. while a pro life movement sprang up for the rights of unborn children. in 1973 everything changed when the supreme court handed down roe versus wade. >> we had a case of a decision, yes, that was being carried along by cultural currents but which, at the same time, and with just as much force shaped those cultural currents. because once you introduce the idea that the government can authorize the destruction of human life, you have introduced

the different form of government. >> father frank pavono has been a pro life leader for decades. >> you have a different kind of government which no longer protects all human life but which rather becomes the arbiter of human life. that introduces profound changes in the way we look at government. >> planned parenthood became a leading provider of abortion, performing an estimated 6.8 million since 1970. another important development came in 1970 when planned parenthood affiliates started receiving federal funds through family planning subsidies to low-income people. since then, the amount that federal government gives to planned parenthood has risen to over a half a billion dollars a year, according to their 2013-2014 annual report. however, the hyde amendment passed by congress in 1976 forbids the use of certain federal funds for most cases of abortion, so the money

officially goes to other planned parenthood expenses. >> we know that planned parenthood can take money that is from private sources, use it for abortions, and replace that money with money from the federal government that's used for other planned parenthood purposes. so the fungibility of money tends to undercut the effect of the hyde amendment. abortion was treated as a constitutional right by the supreme court of the united states, precisely on the ground that it was a purely private act. but now we're told that, even though this is a private service, not a public good, we should be forced to pay for it even if we have the most profound moral objections against killing innocent human beings, much less dismembering them and selling their body parts. >> meanwhile, a new question arose. what to do with discarded fetuses. some saw medical potential while

others felt experimenting with a being that had a cull complimfu compliment of human dnpa was wrong. in 1993 bill clinton and a democratic congress passed a law that gave the national institutes of health direct authority to fund human embryo research. in 1995 a newly elected republican congress passed the dickey wicker amendment preventing federal funds for research for human embryos are created or destroyed. >> i co-authored an amendment proibting the use of taxpayer funds to create human embryos for research or support research in which they're harmed, destroyed or subjected to risks not permitted for unborn children. >> i think the reality is the law was written to try to achieve a certain purpose, to make sure that there wasn't some kind of financial incentive or some kind of rationale based on

how fetal tissue might be used for research purposes that would create an inducement to haven a abortion in a first place or conduct it in a certain way specifically because you wanted to harvest the tissue, if you will, for research purposes. >> dr. scott got looeb was a bush administration official in the food and drug administration. >> policy makers wanted to make sure that there was a clear separation between a woman's decision to have an abortion and the ultimate use of the tissue for some kind of research purpose so that the use of the tissue itself couldn't become some kind of rationale, if you will. >> one thing is certain. abortion isn't the end of the story. it's just the beginning. a small industry has grown up around the harvesting of fetuses. we'll look into that when we return.

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for the fetal tissue involved. ♪ ♪ >> there are approximately a million abortions a year performed in the united states. each one has its own story, but taken as a whole that is a lot of fetal tissue. in an age when many see promise in research utilizing such tissue and during a time when there are gray areas in the laws governing what can be done with the tissue it's not surprising that an industry has sprouted up built around buying and selling the aftermath of abortions. in particular we're seeing bio tech start-ups procuring the material and getting it out to end users such as universities and researchers around the world. >> research universities, in some cases pharmaceutical companies don't want to be in the business of going to the sites and procuring the tissues for themselves. >> dr. scott gottlieb explains the rise of these middlemen. >> so they're happy to pay a markup and in some cases a

substantial markup so that this can be a truly arm's length transaction and they could be far removed from the procurement of the tissue. >> one such company is stemexpress. tucked into an office park in california, about an hour and a half east of sacramento. >> i feel like stemexpress does something very unique for medical research that most of these institutions, whether or not it's a small academic to a big pharmaceutical is not set up to produce those types of cells and specimens. >> 36-year-old ceo kate dyer who graduated with a sociology degree started stemexpress in 2010 with just $9,000. billing itself as the largest provider of maternal blood and fetal tissue globally it's grown by leaps and bounds taking in $2.2 million in revenue in 2013. it's also gotten great press. inc. magazine listed stemexpress among the top 50 fastest growing

women led private companies in america and dyer was featured in the article "cracking the glass." she was listed as one of 14, quote, women who mean business in the sacramento business journal. any doubt that this is a business is expelled at the company's website. fetal tissue is only a portion of what they sell, but you can pick up items such as fetal liver stem progenitor cells for up to $24,000. that's right. $24,000 for this top-of-the-line product. stemexpress also markets cells for the development of humanized mice. >> there is still a lot of early experimentation work being done in the lab in animal models to see if you can take the tissue itself and try to make it differentiate into different kinds of tissue and different kinds of cells. there is also work being done to look at how the tissue would react to certain kinds of drugs. >> david deleiden targeted stemexpress early on in his

investigation. on may 22nd he arranged a lunch meeting with ceo kate dyer. >> what would keep your lab happy? what would make your lab happy? >> another 50 livers a week. >> in the video attracted by dyer's success deleiden's tissue buyers wanted to partner up with stemexpress. >> realistically if we were to do an agreement with you guys - relationship with planned parenthood. >> they're a volume institution. >> she discusses the qualms felt by some of the researchers who receive the tissue her company provides such as when they send a fetal skull. >> tell the lab it's coming so they don't open the box. [ laughing ] >> it's almost like they don't want to know where it comes from. they're like, we need limbs -- >> in a video released deleiden talks with someone from advanced

bioscience resources. >> the whole point is to not have a live birth. so the doctors have all -- unless it's somebody who has had six pregnancies and six vaginal deliveries and literally have had women come in and they'll go to the or and they're back out in three minutes. i'm going, what's going on. oh, yeah, the fetus was already in the vaginal canal. it just fell out. >> larten laments the fact that's not usually how it turns out. >> most of the time it is not intact. they just are -- the abdomen is always ripped open. everything will just get ripped up. whenever we have a smooth portion of liver, we think that's good because most of the time it's like -- you know, just the instruments they go in to pull. >> they don't have my interests in mine. >> or mine. really pisses me off. >> screaming about the area lacking in oversight and

accountability for 30 years. >> dr. arthur kaplan is head of medical ethics at the lan goen medical center. >> until the sting happened nobody remembered it was going on. you normally want to take a look when you're dealing with human remains as to what happens with them and how they're distributed. that's why i think you need the lines that you don't cross. you don't want to be sliding down a slope where you start to say our goal is to get fetal tissue for research. >> a lot of people have become concerned that people have found end runs around the no sale of fetal tissues and body parts aspect of the law. they charge or overcharge for producing the body parts, shipping and handling, managing the body parts and so forth. this has become selling while pretending not to sell. we should react with horror at

what is going on in the clinics. dismembering the child in the womb. vacuuming out the consequences and then examining the, quote, specimen, unquote, to see whether there are usable organs or parts that can be, for want of a better word, sold to people who can use them in scientific research. >> perhaps these videos have final provoked awareness of the fetal trade. in fact, though it's not normally something people like to talk about, it has become part of the national conversation. when we return, the fallout, political and otherwise, of the planned parenthood investigation. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 9 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn.

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taken various steps to de-fund petro poroshen planned parenthood. several states are investigating planned parenthood clinics including texas, florida, georgia, arizona, missouri, kansas and tennessee. >> selling or buying fetal parts associated with an abortion is entirely illegal. ♪ ♪ >> on a federal level senate republicans tried to bring up a de-funding bill but were blocked by democrats. meanwhile republican house speaker john boehner says he is awaiting the results of several house committee investigations into the controversy. >> i don't have to tell you how sickening the video is. rest assured we're going to get to the bottom of this and protect the values that we hold dear. >> you can't sell, for a profit, donating for research is one thing, but selling for a profit

is another. manipulating abortions, that's a crime. >> republican congress woman marsha blackburn is vice chairman of the house energy and commerce committee, one of the investigating bodies. >> when you talk about a less crunchy way of forming -- performing an abortion or manipulating that abortion to preserve parts, that is something that we want to delve into. >> on august 7th her committee sent letters to planned parenthood and to biotech companies requesting information regarding fetal tissue collection. a week later, august 14th, stemexpress terminated its relationship with planned parenthood. in a statement the company said, while we value our relationship with planned parenthood, that work represents a small percentage of our overall business activity and we must focus our limited resources on resolving these inquiries. on august 27th they provided to

us a further statement. they said stemexpress has not been found to have broken any laws, that the company is corporating with investigators and that, quote, approximately 1% of the company's business involves unaltered fetal tissue and that part of the business operates at a financial loss. while this was happening, there was a counter attack on deleiden. many supporters of pedestrilann parenthood blasted him for deceptive advertising in his videos. >> used secretly recorded heavily edited videos to make outrageous claims. >> planned parenthood commissioned an outside group to analyze the videos. they concluded that there was so much editing it was impossible to say how much of the meeting of the undercover encounters was distort distorted. in a statement to us planned parenthood called deleiden and his team extremist who doctored videos to support false claim. deleiden insists that the videos accurately depict what happen and that his raw material will

prove it. >> that's something we could easily provide to law enforcement or the media if figure. >> meanwhile two temporary restraining orders were issued against the center for medical progress preventing them from releasing certain video. the first came from a los angeles superior court protecting stemexpress employees on privacy grounds. >> the idea that a court is enjoin free speech on a broad based speech -- classic prior restraint. it's an intimidation tactic, though. >> the other restraining order from a federal court was based on the concern for the safety of national abortion federation leaders in the video if their identities became known. >> there are a couple legal battles going on already at the tame we're talking with regard to these videos. there are probably others coming. how confident are you that you'll be able to move forward and continue to release material with all of these legal battles pending? >> the center for medical

progress follows all applicable laws in the course of our investigative journalism work and we are prepared and we are contesting any attempts to suppress our first amendment rights to freedom of speech or freedom of the press. >> his lawyers advised deleiden to exercise his fifth amendment right in the civil case. father frank pa voen says deleiden and others have a moral right to employ controversial methods. >> it's a war. and in any war you have to employ the tactics of war, which include spying. there is an enemy here. you have to spy, and you have to go in and you have to go undercover and you have to get information that ultimately is aimed not at destroying them but exposing them. because all we have to do is expose this information to the light of day, enough of the american people, on seeing this evidence, on seeing the truth, will in fact reject both abortion and the industry that is behind it.

>> one group that has yet to sue to stop the release of any videos, planned parenthood. they've stated they're considering legal action against cmp but so far haven't taken any. >> why haven't they gotten involved in one of these legal fights? they would seem to have more than anybody an interest at blocking any more of the videos? >> i think planned parenthood and their lawyers do not want to be in a table sitting across from a lawyer asking them real questions about what was really taking place inside those abortion clinics and inside these clinics where they were selling body parts. because if you are discovery you get to ask those questions. >> sec ula believes deleiden's videos will eventually all be released and that there should be investigations into all facilitators of the fetal trade. >> is it better to be investigating those groups? have they done anything wrong? is the focus rightly on planned parenthood. >> the focus needs to be on planned parenthood and the others. let's think about what we're

discussing right now. the harvesting of baby body parts, in order to put them into a stream of commerce, for research or whatever it might be. who does this? what civilized culture does this? ♪ ♪ >> on august 21st an l.a. judge sided with deleiden's group ending the restraining order reementing to stemexpress. while this was happening the democrats were figuring out how they should respond to the controversy. hillary clinton at first called the video disturbing. planned parenthood had enlisted the support of a public relations firm run by two powerful long-time democrats, hillary rosen and anita dunn. within a week of her initial comment, hillary clinton changed her tune in a professionally produced video. >> republicans like scott walker and jeb bush are calling to de-fund planned parenthood. when they attack women's health, they attack america's health and it's wrong and we're not going

to let them get away with it. >> that was a pretty quick pivot. >> it was. i have to wonder if there was -- if -- what kind of discussions might have happened behind the scenes. >> some democrats have even suggested deleiden and the center for medical progress be prosecuted for creating a fake business and recording people without their consent. they have asked two people to look into it. u.s. attorney general loretta lynch and california attorney general camilla harris. yes. the same one who was involved in stopping deleiden's earlier project at live action. neither side was backing down. by late august live action organized protests outside planned parenthood clinics. lila rose said the videos energized the pro life movement. >> i have words for planned parenthood and their defenders in the politics. this battle will be won. planned parenthood will be de-funded. the country is changing, and that change is happening now and we're going to see it even more in coming months.

>> it seems likely this issue will play a role in the upcoming election. does planned parenthood not deserve federal funding, or is even asking that question an attack on women? once you ask thatt of choices do women have beyond planned parenthood? a look at that when we return.

in the battle over defunding planned parenthood at issue is the identity, and real profits of the organization itself. is it a special provider of womens health care or a high volume abortion organization? or both? a decade, planned parenthood provided essential health services for women. >> others argue that is not what planned parenthood is about. >> we were told we're to turn every telephone call into a revenue-generating visit. >> abby johnson worked her way up to director in houston questioned whether the

organization had the best interests of its patients at heart. >> there is motivation at planned parenthood to sell product. >> that product line is limited. >> if a pregnant woman comes into planned parenthood, the only thing we can offer her is an abortion. because planned parenthood phased out their pre-natal care program. we don't have adoption assistance. the only way we can make money off of a pregnant woman is to sell her an abortion. selling an abortion to a woman feeling very scared and vulnerable is a pretty easy sell. >> with that sale comes a pitch to donate remains to medical research. >> we'd talk about donating the tissue, you know, almost all of the women said yeah. sure. i think it soothed their conscience. we needed to be able to sell the woman on this so she'd consent

so we'd be able to get the additional money from the abortion. >> johnson became so disgusted they quit planned parenthood and became a pro-life activist. >> the videos remind her of what she left behind. >> i don't think the workers are necessarily cold hearted. i think that like i was, they're blinded to what is right in front of them. i mean, i did that job. i pieced babies back together, and i picked out the parts. how did i not see that? i don't have a good answer. it's just, this blindness. that takes over your mind and your spirit and you don't see what is so blatantly obvious in front of you. >> we should note we repeatedly asked to sit down with planned parenthood to discuss the controversy. they declined to be interviewed.

opponents note that while planned parenthood has 700 clinics across the country, there are 10,000 clinics available to women, with 1200 of them federally supported. one place operates six clinics in southern california. they don't perform abortions but offer other services. >> we have almost 35 years delivering life affirming health care. >> it's an alternative to planned parenthood. we offer everything from pregnancy tests and ultra sounds to cancer screenings, hiv testing. std testing and treatment. as well as pre-natal care. we treat women where they are emotionally. we want to make sure they feel comforted and we're there as a resource no matter what decision they make. >> i would say the majority of

the patients have one option in their mind. a lot of times it's abortion. we educate them about their options. >> ruthy burke is a nurse that works for abria. >> we make sure before they leave they're well aware of each decision and we don't want them to leave feeling like we've pressured them. >> christy is a former patient who know volunteers at abria. >> you mentioned there is a lot of pressure in your life. those who wanted you to have an abortion. you had an appointment at planned parenthood. >> the fanler was telling me i needed to, my ex-boyfriend, who i had been with four years, so close to, was telling me what to do. i didn't really have a lot of friends. you know, working and being a single mom, i didn't have a

social life. there have been mistakes of my past that i carry with me. it's a heavy heavy load to carry. so i cancelled the appointment. i came home. i was still pregnant. and i told everybody, i'm having this baby. leave me alone. leave my life or don't be in my life. >> some of the patients have been to planned parenthood. like danielle, would went there as a single 19-year-old. >> when you were met there, what options were given? >> i was asked if i made my decision or not. when i said yes, they left it at. that i asked if i could have an ultrasound, they said no. that was it. it was very cut and dry. >> danielle got pregnant again. but this time, she went to obria. >> how did you end up at obria. >> i wanted to go a different

route. i looked up clinics in the area. they counselled me in three options a woman has and they've changed my life. i didn't have a support system. >> this time, she had the baby. he is now two and a half. >> it's a great sacrifice. >> there are sacrifices and a huge blessing. i haven't given up goals. i work full time, go to school, i make time for my family and friends. i won't do anything differently if it weren't for my son. i figured out everything for myself. >> stories we've shown isn't going away. it's become an issue in the presidential election. the bigger point is what it might say about us. you live in a nation where abortion is legal, and safe, but not rare. in the four decades since roe v. wade, perhaps it's become so

common place, most americans don't give it much thought. if the activists have accomplished anything, it might be that they've given us all something to think about. that is our show. thanks for watching. good night. special edition of the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> it's the did you know that factor extravaganza. >> my mom called me up and she said gretchen, i found something for you to try in life. the miss america pageant. >> miss america is gretchen carlson, miss minnesota. >> the amazing stories behind much of our fox news talent. >> let me take two years to see if i could get to the top rock radio station in two years. i got there in 18 months. >> i actually feared for my life because the crowd was closing in. >> what did they want? >> they wanted. >> they wanted to be near you. >> they wanted to hug my essence. >> huff your essence. [ laughter ] >> i thought that was one of the groups you