special monday 5:00 p.m. eastern. "special report" up now. hillary clinton says she did not stop and think about her e-mail setup when she became secretary of state. she's thinking about it now. this is "special report." >> good evening. i'm shannon bream in for bret baier. hillary clinton says she is not sorry. but it remains to be seen whether the investigation into her e-mail scandal and the possible emergence of joe biden as a rival will give her something to be sorry about. chief white house correspondent ed henry is covering the 2016 race from san juan, puerto rico tonight. >> reporter: hillary clinton tried to move past her escalating e-mail crisis and the cold reception she's getting in some key early states by

rallying supporters in the far warmer climate of san juan with an eye toward puerto rican voters in the critical battle ground of florida. those sunshine state's own marco rubio was waiting for her with a rally here. and the republican presidential hopeful charged the e-mail controversy is rapidly moving from sloppiness to something far more sinister. after a report by yahoo! news that the former clinton staffer who set up her server may also be pleading the fifth to the fbi. >> this is evolving from just incompetence and mismanagement to potentially criminal activity. hillary clinton is a desperate candidate because she has a ticking time bomb on her hands when it comes to the e-mail scandal. >> reporter: clinton today tried to push back in an exclusive interview with nbc news, in which she repeatedly she fused to apologize to the merge people but tried to show contrition. >> well, it wasn't the best choice. >> reporter: while for the second straight day, another top clinton aide, this time jake sullivan, spent hours testifying behind closed doors to the house select committee on benghazi. clinton may not have helped her

case when pressed on whether anyone in her inner circle thought it was a bad idea to set up her own server at the start of t the obama administration. >> i was not thinking about it when i began. there was so much work to get into. >> reporter: her favorability rating is rating a three-year low in the latest gallup poll. 41% of american adults say they have a favorable view of the democratic frontrunner, 51% say they have a negative view. all this has opened the possibility for joe biden entering the race. last night in atlanta he gave the most extensive look at his thought process, growing emotional as he admitted he may not be able to move forward after his son's recent death. >> unless i can go to my party and the american people and say that i am able to devote my whole heart and my whole soul to

this endeavor, it would not be appropriate. >> reporter: clinton has joined president obama and republican jeb bush in calling for congress to give puerto rico the power to declare chapter 9 bankruptcy in the face of a $72 billion debt crisis. rubio opposes bankr joked at his rally today that perhaps clinton's plan to fix it got wiped from her server. in san juan, ed henry, fox news. now to the nightmare in europe over the quest for a better life. refugees in eastern year europe are taking matters into their own hands. we have fox team coverage tonight. william la jeunesse looks on pressure from the u.s. to get more involved. we give with senior affairs correspondent greg palkot and the latest on what one leader is calling the continent's most important challenge in the years

to come. >> reporter: shannon, it is being called a defining moment for post-world war ii europe. it could also be a dividing one and a dangerous one. it has gone from crisis to chaos as thousands of refugees and migrants in europe clash with authorities and struggle for survival. the situation getting explosive outside a budapest, hungary, hundreds of refugees climbing fences and breaking out of a holding camp. some holing out in a train that had stopped neither camp yesterda yesterday. >> don't keep us here! today we need to move. >> reporter: of the thousands leaving on foot from budapest itself, heading to the border with austria more than 100 miles away, and then hoping to get to germany, the goal of most. the u.n. saying today european countries need to share the load with germany and take in some 200,000 refugees. >> i don't think it is possible.

i don't think it is sustainable. together with a few other countries, to have a german solution for a european problem. >> reporter: in a meeting today, the leaders of hungary and other central european countries rejected refugee quotas. more help was offered, though, by u.k. prime minister david cameron. >> given the scale of the crisis and the suffering of people, today i can announce that we will do more, providing resettlement for thousands more syrian refugees. >> reporter: still, the refugees keep on coming. a few thousand leaving a ferry in greece after making a short but sometimes perilous journey from turkey to a greek island. it was the route that proved deadly for that 3-year-old toddler found on a turkish beach this week. he and his brother and mother, who also drowned, were buried by their surviving father in war-torn syria from where they and many other refugees have fled. the children's aunt, now in canada, spoke out.

>> they didn't deserve to die. they didn't. they were going for a better life. >> reporter: late tonight, the hungarian government said it would be providing 100 buses to help get those refugees to the austrian border. no doubt there'll be more to come. shannon. >> we'll talk about it with a panel coming up. greg, thank you very much. while the u.s. struggles with its own immigration crisis on the southern border, it's also being pressured to take in some of the refugees clogging eastern europe. correspondent william lajeunesse has that part of the story tonight. >> we are committed to maintaining a robust refugee admission program. >> reporter: but is maintaining the status quo enough to satisfy critics who say the u.s. is turning a blind eye to a refugee crisis for which it bears some responsibility. >> it's a consequence of our involvement in the region. and there's no question that there is a great deal of continuity between the situation

in syria now and the destabilization of iraq. >> there is no strategy, either in iraq or especially in syria. >> reporter: in the four years since the civil war in syria began, the u.s. resettled fewer than 1500 syrian refugees. compared to 150,000 in europe. while many argue the u.s. has its own immigration problems, some on the campaign trail say there's a moral imperative to lead. >> these are nato allies. if nato allies feel threatened by something that's happening, we have an obligation to help them respond to it. >> it's a huge problem. and we should help as much as possible. >> reporter: while the world is focused on europe, aid groups say the real problem is instability in lebanon, turkey and jordan, which have already taken in millions of refugees. under current policy, the u.s. limits the number of refugees taken in each year based on geography. right now we resettle 70,000 refugees annually.

30,000 from the middle east, mostly iraq, afghanistan, pakistan and syria. 13,000 from africa. mostly somalia and eritrea. 13,000 from east asia, mostly from burma. the rest arrive from latin america and the former soviet republics. >> i think we could raise the numbers. so i'd like to see the number go up maybe to 100,000 a year overall. of which 30 or 40,000 could be syrian refugees. >> reporter: the administration said thursday it had no plans to raise the ceiling on refugees or rush the vetting process for fear of potential terrorist could slip through the cracks. >> obviously conduct a thorough review process. i've been told it takes anywhere up to 18 to 24 months. >> reporter: the u.s. says it may slightly increase the number of syrian refugees next year. but advocates at least want to expedite the processing now of vulnerable women and children out of camps in lebanon and jordan. shannon? >> it is a dire situation. william, thank you.

up next, president obama tries to smooth things over with the saudis in the wake of his nuclear deal with iran. first here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 26 in houston where thousands of police officers from around the nation converged for the funeral of harris county sheriff's deputy darren goforth. he was gunned down a week ago while fuelling his patrol car. a man with a history of mental illness and arrests is charged with the killing. wsvn in miami where arby's is giving free meals to uniformed police tad. this comes after a sergeant said she was denied service at a restaurant. the ceo of arby's has apologized. the store manager has been fired. a clerk involved has been suspended. this is a live look at golden gate bridge from fox 2. the big story there tonight, the price of gas this labor day weekend. a dollar a gallon cheaper than last year. aaa says the national average of 2.42 is a 22 cent drop from a month ago.

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marlgds senator ben carden says he will vote against the president's legacy nuclear deal with iran. he becomes the third democrat to oppose the agreement. colorado's michael bennett said he will support it. saudi arabia is modifying its stance on the deal. today the new saudi king came calling on president obama. >> reporter: president obama today personally greeted saudi king salmon, welcoming him to the oval office on this his first trip to the u.s. since ascending the throne in january. >> let me reaffirm not only our personal friendship but the deep and abiding friendship between

our two countries. >> reporter: at friendship that recently has been strained because of the obama administration's support for the iran nuclear deal. >> we'll discuss the importance of effectively implementing the deal to ensure that iran does not have a nuclear weapon while counter acting its destabilizing activities in the region. >> reporter: the u.s.-saudi relationship is a complicated one. while the countries share interests like keeping iran in check and fighting isis and strengthening military and energy cooperation, it's the iran deal that's frayed the friendship. >> the relationship between the obama administration and saudi arabia wasn't very good in the first place. the u.s. is really disengaged from the middle east, and the saudis have been very upset about that. the iran deal was the icing on the cake. >> reporter: the saudis and other u.s. gulf partners fear the agreement could give the iranians billions in cash to further destabilize the region. by propping up the dishevelled

assad regime in syria and arming isis rebels as 22 u.s. troops on a saudi mission were killed east of the yemeni capital of sanaa. earlier today demonstrators protested outside the white house, citing the growing humanitarian crisis worsened by saudi air strikes. adding to the growing rift between the allies, the saudi government has made notable overturs toward moscow in recent months. >> the saudis are reaching out to the russians because they understand finally after seven years of the obama administration that they're not going to get what they need from the united states in terms of help. >> reporter: and new tonight, shannon, the white house and saudis issued a joint statement. in it king salmon supports the iran nuclear deal. bit of surprise there. the statement went on to say the u.s. and saudis would significantly enhance their strategic partnership in the years to come.

shannon? >> kevin corke live at the white house. thank you, kevin. donald trump is doing tonight what he always does when put on the defensive. go back on offense. trump is trashing a radio host over a foreign policy slip up during an interview that is leaving fellow republican candidates with some degree of shateffreud. >> reporter: donald trump stumbled on hugh hewitt's foreign policy question confusion the kurds with quds forces led by kasim salameni. he said he could not identify leaders between hamas and hezbollah. >> so the difference between hezbollah and hamas does not matter to you yet but it will. >> it will when it's appropriate i will know more about it than you know. >> do you know the players without a score card yet, donald trump? >> you know, i'll tell you. honestly i think by the time we

get to office they'll all be changed. they'll be all gone. i knew you were going to ask me things like this. >> reporter: hewitt defended his questions. >> i don't believe it gotcha questions. i'm not trying to quiz you on who the worst guy in the world is. >> that is a gotcha question. when you're asking me about who's running this this this. that is not -- i will be so good at the military your head will spin. >> reporter: carly fiorina went on after trump, said she did not hear his terview, answered the same questions and declared them fair. >> i don't think they're gotcha questions at all. it is critically important that we have a leader in the white house who understands the world and who's in it and how it works. >> reporter: jeb bush last night. >> you've got to know who the players are. you need to know what the capabilities of the united states are. you need a strategy. all this stuff, you just can't flippantly say, well, i'll hire the best people. >> reporter: david gergen, a former adviser to four presidents agreed with trump's gotcha complaint. >> many foreign policy experts don't know all those names. i don't think that's the standard.

i do think that's a gotcha. trying to reveal gaps in his knowledge. >> reporter: trump called msnbc to trash hewitt this morning. >> this third rate radio announc announcer that i did the show gotcha gotcha. do i know this one and that one. he worked hard on that. >> third rate announcer. that's my trump tat too. you earn that in this business. i'm always interested in critiques. i take them under advisement. i don't think it's a gotcha question to ask about the forces surrounding israel. >> reporter: hewitt is hardly a third rate reporter. gop candidates flocked to his radio show and he'll be posing more questions as part of the next debate in just 12 days, something that was arranged long before trump's interview just yesterday. >> we are counting down. >> it's getting feistier every morning. >> carl, thank you. still ahead, why are nonpoliticians getting so much support in the presidential race? we're going ask some real people. but first the new head of the drug enforcement administration on fixing a battered agency and

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released by local authorities over the objection of federal officials last spring will face a murder charge in the killing of a young woman in san francisco. waurn francisco lopez sanchez says the shooting of 32-year-old kate steinle was an accident. the case has triggered a national debate over the policy of so-called sanctuary cities which ignore federal immigration law. a fox exclusive tonight inside the dea, an agency trying to recover from a sex scandal while at the same time struggling to contain the deadly new outbreak of an old drug. chief washington correspondent james rosen sits down with the new man in charge. >> when you think of heroin

abuse, you probably imagine a setting like this. but the new head of the drug enforcement administration wants you to understand that in the heroin epidemic now gripping the united states, where the casualty rate has doubled since 2011, the setting increasingly looks like this. >> there's an enormous supply of heroin. it's cheap. so now we see it everywhere. not just in poor neighborhoods but in wealthy neighborhoods. not just among kids but among adults. men and women, black and white. it's everywhere. >> reporter: in his first interview since taking the reins of the agency in may, amidst a scandal over dea agents ca repo cavorting with prostitutes paid by drug cartel, he said talk of a renegade culture among dea's 5,000 agents was overstated. >> there are people in this agency as there are in others who have done stupid things. very disappointing things. if you want to talk about our culture, we're doing the

biggest, most important, most dangerous gang and cartel cases in the world. if you were to believe everything that you read about us, we're busting kids in their ivy league dorm rooms for smoking dope. that's nonsense. >> do you see substance abuse as a national security threat? >> potentially. one thing we have to ask ourselves, and we do it all the time, is where is this money going? this is a multibillion dollar industry. i'm sure some of it's going to terrorist organizations. we've seen that. so that worries me quite a bit. >> reporter: also worrisome is the escape from a mexican prison in july of joaquin guzman, aka el chapo, the king pin drug lord of the sinaloa car sell. u.s. officials identify mexico as the primary source for the heroin scourge, but rosenberg says he thinks mexican president is doing all anyone could to tame corruption. >> would you say that there is a single sector of the mexican state apparatus at any level that is free of corruption?

>> i don't know. i would hope so. i will say it this way. there are parts of the government in mexico, military and law enforcement, with whom we work very, very closely. they are good and trusted allies. >> reporter: despite that alliance, the new dea chief declined an opportunity to refute controversial assertions about the mexican government recently made by gop presidential frontrunner donald trump. >> is mexico as a matter of policy sending gangs, criminals, rapists across the border? >> i think your question with all due respect is tied pretty closely to presidential politics. and that is a subject i will not wade into. >> reporter: another thing rosenberg will not try is pot. he says he has never smoked marijuana and is opposed to its decriminalization. indeed, the only vice he confesses to succumbing to from time to time is excessive consumption of diet dr. pepper.

>> james rosen, thank you. no grapevine tonight. when we come back what real people have to say about the growing fascination with nonpoliticians running for president.

for the first time, the number of americans not counted

in the workforce has eclipsed 94 million. that's according to the labor department's august jobs report. it also says the participation rate remains at the 38-year low of 62.6%. the unemployment rate among those still looking for work fell to a 7-year low in august. the 5.1% figure comes with the addition of a modest 173,000 jobs. the dow plunged 272, the s&p 500 lost 30, nasdaq fell 50. for the week the dow lost 3.25 percentage points. the s&p 500 fell almost 3.5. nasdaq was off three. with almost 100 million people not working and not looking, it's no wonder americans are taking serious looks at nontraditional candidates in the 2016 presidential race. chief correspondent jonathan hunt talked to real people about the situation and reports now from palmdale, california. about an hour's drive north of los angeles into the desert palmdale is an average american

city. racially and economically diverse. ordinary hard-working americans all with a theory on why the outsiders arunning so strongly n the white house horse race. >> i think people are really frightened of the legacy thing. clinton .2, bush .3. >> reporter: the 61 horses she cares for, naya told me there are no good choices. >> my liberal friends, my conservative friends won't even consider the candidates that are up. >> really that bad? >> it's that bad. >> reporter: we also checked in at bb's barbershop. over a very close shave, nelson ramirez told me career politicians just don't seem to care about the needs of ordinary americans. >> i don't believe anything they say. until you see results. until one of them walks in my shop and comes and asks me what do you need from us? what can we do for this community? >> reporter: and he this

businethinks business experience might be useful in the white house. >> if they had business experience they might be able to see our needs. >> reporter: at this bookstore roshell feels career politicians have forgotten their roots. >> look at where all the money is coming from. the politicians, they just care about winning the next election. their election. >> reporter: roshell is leaning toward gop candidate ben carson although she's not sure why. >> it's really gut. you don't know these people. but when you just see someone you go, okay. i can go for him. >> reporter: back at the ranch, naya glen offers hope for the establishment candidates. she believes that career politician will ultimately winter white house. >> well, i'm waiting for the pendulum to swing back to sanity. >> reporter: interestingly, everyone we spoke to believes the outsider surge is temporary and that politics as usual will return. even if they don't much like

politics as usual. shannon? >> jonathan hunt, thank you. the round county kentucky clerk's office is now granting marriage licenses to same sex couples. the first came this morning as the county clerk herself woke up from her first night in jail. kim davis was incarcerated after citing her religious beliefs as grounds to refuse to issue the licenses. her lawyer says davis believes licenses issued by a deputy clerk today are invalid. please join me tonight for a special presentation on another controversial subject, the planned parenthood undercover videos and the issues they're illuminating. we will talk about just those startling images and how they came to be. >> emp was started as a 501-c-3 charitable trust. he also founded a dumby for profit company called biomax procurement services. he enlisted people to represent biomax. >> these are people posing as the buyers who clearly have in depth medical understanding and

education it seems like. >> i can't say too much about the investigators themselves in order to protect their privacy. but definitely center for medical progress shows very intelligent, creative, adaptable people to do this work. and there was a lot of really intensive training and preparation that went into preparing them to actually go undercover. >> you've got to be able to talk like them. you have to know the information sometimes better than they do. they had to be very well versed in medical technology, medical terminology, the medical procedures, anatomy and so forth. >> how did you all come up with the 21st century technology to walk into these places to be able to record these conversations in a way that you felt was reliable? >> it's as simple as a google search. and a credit card. the equipment that we were talk about was high quality, law enforcement type equipment. it's not going to fail at the critical moment. >> planned parenthood the hidden harvest premieres this evening

at 10:00 eastern on fox news channel. europe's refugee crisis. is the e.u. doing enough and should the u.s. do more? we'll ask the panel when we come back.

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the problem is one that the entire world now sees doesn't just affect the syrian people, it affects all of us. that's what i've been saying for years. that's why i advocated for a

more robust response when assad began his onslaught on the syrian people. >> she was the chief architect of the obama foreign policy. when it came to syria they completely dropped the ball. >> let's bring in our panel to talk about the growing refugee crisis in europe. jenna goldberg, senior editor at national review. amy walter, national editor for the cook political report. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. amy i'll start with you there. you saw the political bit of backdrop we're getting with the 2016 contenders talking about did this happen on secretary clinton's watch? of course the gop candidates are going to try to make some hay with that. >> absolutely. and to make the case again that obama's policy in the middle east is disastrous and there's no center there. i thought it was very interesting, though, during hillary clinton's interview she wanted a mored i think it forceful response in syria, making that distinction of course with the president, we may hear it again. she's going to give a speech

about iran next week. i'll be very curious to see what her response is there. although you'll notice she did not take a position on what to do with these migrants. no other candidates have, either. they know that it's complicated. they don't want to put a flag in the ground quite yet. but when asked specifically about it, did not get a specific answer. >> i mean, it's really difficult. because of course here in the u.s., we're trying to balance competing interests. because you see these pictures. we think of this little boy, alan, kurdy, the 3-year-old boy that everyone saw this week. to hear his father talk about burying his two sons and his wife, it seems like it finally got people's attention. this has been going on for a long time. but that picture seems to have changed things. what we're talking about here in the u.s., some say we need to open our doors to these people. they are absolutely desperate. others saying there are terrorists who will exploit the situation and get into the u.s. through one of these asylum requests. >> that's the rub. because i think both things are

true. i think there are some people in desperate need that we should be helping. and there's a very serious risk that terrorists will come through. i think it's almost a lock that terrorists will come through. that's why the politics of this are so ugly. really ugly in europe. but it's funny. hillary didn't get into this, but her husband lost -- he thought he lost his governorship in part because jimmy carter had put cuban refugees in arkansas. i think that's the story. the politics of refugees are poisonous all around the world. it's one of the reasons why i think particularly in europe they've got to get the policies right first. because as we saw with the crisis at our border last year, if you don't do that you send the signal around the world that more refugees can come, they are so desperate. and then you just get a snowball even more poisonous politics. >> yeah. and they're really dealing with a flood of hundreds of thousands

of people now in europe. germany's angela merkel, francois hollande talking about we've got to be responsible about managing this. countries are going to have to take their share. they're going to have to contribute. but we've got hungary's prime minister saying we don't want a large number of muslim people in our country. he says are going to put an razor wire fencing on a border with serbia. he said it would be a threat to the european way of life if they help too many. >> well, look, there are a lot of people in europe who feel that way, that it counts for the rise of a lot of the right wing anti-immigrant parties. it's not the sentiment in germany where they're willing to take them. but if you look at the map, if you're going from turkey to germany, you have to go through eastern europe. the refugees don't want to stay there because it doesn't have a lot of prospects. but look, what we're doing here we're de dealing with the symptoms. at some point they'll probably have to be distributed among the

europeans. but two things. number one is the real problem is the war. and this is coming from syria. the war is being continued because iran is pouring in everything, money, troops, advice, hezbollah. the russians we have just heard are now going to start actually having their own pilots flying missions on behalf of a genocidal regime that drops barrel bombs on civilians, which is why they flee. hillary is right. the issue really was should we have done something earlier that we could have. and i think the answer to this is going to have to be a pan european response. you have two choices. you want to be inundated by innumerable refugees, or do you want to go to the source. the europeans, this is the largest bloc of countries in the world. plus the united states with the turkey could clearly do something. but nobody has the will. in the end, i think that's where they're going to have to go. they're going to have to go to

damascus or they're going to have to negotiate with iran and russia a deal where the civil war ends, even if it will be -- and i suspect it will be on russian and iranian terms. >> there's a lot that could be done here on those policy fronts. but there's such an emotional, it feels like, component to this because of what we're seeing. these people desperately stuffing themselves into trains, refusing to get off. crying mothers and children who are being held at gunpoint. i mean, as human beings, amy, we see that and you feel like there has to be some kind of solution. >> well, and you're starting to hear more and more, at least i'm reading more and more about what can you do to help this. i think you've seen now an outpouring of not just sympathy but how can we put dollars to work in some of this. the other thing that is getting raised is the idea that the gulf states should be doing something more. if you look at where those migrants are going, they could be going somewhere a little closer than germany, which is in those gulf states that are obviously very wealthy. they have not taken any in. >> but this is going to be a problem.

i agree with charles that the war is the primary cause of these refugees. but also, these refugees were safe where they were. they were in turkey, in hungary. they are now economic actors looking to build better lives for themselves. and i respect that. but if the issue is just escaping the war, they've done that already. the thing is behind them are tens of millions more potential refugees that if word gets out that you will be accepted in all of these western -- prosperous welfare states, if word gets out all you have to do is show up. according to the e.u. that's pretty much what you have to do. that is an invitation for these kinds of crises going forward for decades. >> panel we're going to take a quick break here. we may have breaking news after the break but we've also got the friday lightning round. stick around.

we'll discuss the importance of effectively implementing the deal to ensure that iran does not have a nuclear weapon, while counter acting its destabilizing activities in the region. >> our relationship is beneficial not only to our two countries but to the entire world and to our region. and this is significant and we must always affirm that. >> all right. we're back with our panel. charles, saudi arabia's king is visiting the white house today, sing solomon. you will remember, of course we all do, in the spring when there was this meeting at camp david with a lot of the players. they sent two princes, instead of their king. a lot viewed it as a snub be that they were unhappy with the iran nuke deal. today the king saying, at least you heard him there, and then would have the statement from the white

house saying king solomon expressed his support for the plan negotiated with iran. >> that's what he says. everyone knows it's not true. everyone knows they have to curry favor. they depend on the u.s. remember, at the camp david meeting, where king did not show up. the king of bahrain was also supposed to show up. he didn't. and the palace released a statement on the day the meeting was supposed to be saying that the king was unable to attend at camp david because he was attending a horse show in britain. that shows you. that's not exactly subtle. but this is how the arabs react. not like the israelis who go haywire and try to block the bill, fail. this is all part of a charade arranged by the administration to try to show the most minimal support by our allies in the region who are absolutely apoplectic over this deal. everybody who has talked to them in private knows it but their style is not to oppose it in public. as we saw, the king is now playing footy with the

russians, with an invitation to go to russia. putin to go to sad did i arabia as the egyptians are. they know this president has left them high and dry. i think what they are going to do is simply hang in there for the next 16 months and hope that the next chief of state in this country is going to help them, although the deal will be done, and impossible to undo at that point. >> amy, is this essentially the saudis note the deal is going through. they see the writing on the wall and seeing if they can make the best of it. >> weapons other things. netanyahu has also been quiet. certainly quieter than he was earlier this year when he was trying to -- when he was actually lobbiying against it. i agree with charles. you sort of make the best of what you have. i think for the white house, it is a victory. now they can say look, we have got the votes on the senate side. mr. there may actually be a filibuster so the votes

never happen. so we got saudi arabia and gulf ally with us and netanyahu is staying quiet. it's a much better weekend for them. >> all right. because it's a lightning round i want to make sure we get to all of our topics. so joanna, take to you puerto rico if only we could go there at this moment. >> i will take puerto rico over saudi arabia. >> our ed henry is there but also senator rubleio running on the g.o.p. side and secretary hillary clinton there as well. they are both there to talk about the debt crisis, the healthcare crisis. the problems in puerto rico. but why is that such an important place for them both to be? >> i think it's kind of a bank shot, right? because puerto rico actually does not get to vote for president of the united states but it does have a primary. at the same time puerto ricos make up a huge part of the hispanic vote particularly in places like florida. there is a lot of back and forth between puerto rico and various statessen the east coast. so i think for the rubio people this was a great opportunity for him not so

much to win over puerto ricans in puerto rico but to showcase himself as a young guy who can speak spampleg to spanish audiences. campaign. a lot of g.o.p. donors, a lot of people who like to see that i don't think they plan to be paired up against hillary clinton today. but i think they are delighted that they were because it's a great contrast and i think the clinton people were pretty upset by it. as for hillary clinton, puerto ricans are a big part of the coalition that she needs to put together to be able to win the nomination. and she would much rather be talking about puerto rico debt than her server. >> well, and, amy, there have been other candidates there as well. jeb bush, martin o'malley it is a hot spot for some. >> it is a hot spot for some and can be a competitive presume marry. we saw that mitt romney went down there and other candidates going down there. they were earlier in the process last time. joan that is exactly right. they are an important constituency in big swing states like florida. but it's also an opportunity, i think if you are a republican, to say i'm

not donald trump on -- i can actually work, speak with and be good to groups of people who come in to this country who may not speak english as their first language. >> and, charles, an interview with andrea mitchell, talking about her email server. she talked about the fact i wasn't really thinking about it kind of saying maybe it wasn't the best choice. she was busy when she was transitioning to be secretary of state was she wasn't thinking the line we were left with as an explanation today. >> which is what you would expect from the incident clintons. that's precisely the opposite of the truth. she was overthinking. she was obsessed with secrecy and control. she understood that in the past in the scandals of the 90's there was stuff discovered, the papers that you had had in the law firm that she was at. she didn't want any of this stuff to come up again and to haunt her in the future. how do you do it? you control the information. you own the information. you stuff it in your basement.

and then you can foil freedom of information access and congressional oversight. in the end it didn't work, so she has to pretend it was just a rushed judgment. it was a considered one and it didn't work. >> i want to play a little bit of what vice president biden had to say, too, because is he still potentially in this mix. >> i will be straightforward with you. the most relevant factor in my decision is whether my family and i have the emotional energy to run. but the honest to god answer is i just don't know. >> joanna, it's a tough call. >> it is. you have got to have sympathy for him. his son died. at the same time i think he is not a great replacement for hillary clinton. he is the one candidate who is more a stay the course candidate than hillary clinton is at a time when both parties are in open revolt against the establishment. >> all right. thank you, panel. that's it for the panel for now. stay tuned there are interesting parallels for a couple of men who hope to be

be president one day. we will take a look at

finally tonight, it takes a healthy dose of self-confidence to run for the presidency. here is a couple of looks for presidential contenders who have that and more in common. >> i have decided in 2020 to run for president. >> i am officially running. [ applause ] >> for president of the united states. >> i'm not no politician, bro. >> how stupid are these politicians. >> i just wanted people to like me more. >> i think they like me in a certain way. >> you know how many times they announced taylor was going to give me the award because it got them more ratings. >> the only thing they care about is ratings. >> charles, president trump or president west? >> i write in shannon bream. [ laughter ] >> don't count on it. by the way, i will see you

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