video. check it out, folks. bill: go! martha: they light an suv on fire and drive it into a lake. the driver jumps out in midair -- i did this last weekend. [laughter] shot on a farm over labor day weekend -- that's kind of impressive. bill: nice. i think he stuck the landing. we've got to roll. martha: bye, everybody, have a good day. ♪ ♪ jenna: it's another busy day in poll -- politics as democratic candidate hillary clinton tries hard to move away from the controversy. hello, everybody, hope you're off to a great day so far, i'm jenna lee. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett. hillary clinton just wrapped up a campaign event in the key battleground state of ohio as house investigators get ready for a closed-door deposition with her privately-paid i.t. specialist.

the former secretary of state trying to turn the page on her e-mail scandal, but it may be easier said than done. dan balz writes in "the washington post," quote, clinton's image -- like that of other candidates -- is defined as much or more by a media-driven national conversation as by the traditional tools available to political strategists. faced earlier with rising doubts about clinton's honesty and trustworthiness, her campaign responded by airing television ads in iowa and new hampshire. jenna: one of the questions, of course, is how effective that was. now for the first time a poll shows senator bernie sanders leading in iowa, narrowly overtaking clinton 41-40%. ed henry's live in columbus with more on all of this. ed? >> reporter: good to see you, jenna. you're right. basically, hillary clinton is trying to turn the page on that e-mail scandal. she's been on that apology tour, as you know, doing interviews,

saying she's sorry for the first time. but i have to tell you, the reception here, it is an extremely small crowd. take a look at some of these still pictures, the video that we took. it's an indoor room, not an outdoor stadium like you used to see when barack obama was getting those huge crowds, bernie sanders as you mentioned, donald trump. instead, a small room and yet at least half of it, more than half of it was empty. she is not drawing big crowds, and this is not a small state. this is ohio, as you say, a key battleground. columbus, where about three miles from where i'm standing you have the very large campus, tens of thousands of students at ohio state. so look, what hillary clinton is trying to do, she kept saying i'm going to defend planned parenthood, really trying to rally her left base, and she went on to also hit donald trump over his latest comments, commenting about carly fiorina's looks. will be to this from hillary clinton. >> there is one particular

candidate who just seems to delight in insulting women every chance he gets. [laughter] i have to say, if he emerges, i would love to debate him. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: that, obviously, to get to a general election against donald trump. she's got to win her nomination, he's got to win the republican nomination. we are a long way from that. remember her staffer who was the i.t. safer, bryan baggily january know, he is going to be taking the fifth today to that special house benghazi committee. meanwhile, over in the senate you have two different committees saying they will offer immunity to get him to talk. listen to this. >> i'm not concerned about prosecuteing or concerned that he would be prosecuted. i'm concerned about the national security implications of what secretary clinton did. >> reporter: now, obviously, if these committees back in

washington can get bryan pagliano to talk, that could complicate not just hillary clinton's efforts to try and turn the page from this controversy, but also add to the legal and political drama ahead with that fbi investigation, jenna. jenna: we'll see where this goes next. ed, thank you. gregg: with an effort to block the iran deal taking up republican bandwidth this week, many candidates are trying to gain traction against front runner donald trump. scott walker, jeb bush speaking today and louisiana governor bobby jindal delivering some stinging remarks this hour at the national press club in washington on the state of the presidential race, donald trump and other issues. chief political correspondent carl cameron following the republican side of the race for the white house live from washington. >> reporter: it looks like republicans are beginning to focus on what to do about donald trump, but now it's not just jeb bush who for the last several weeks has been going toe to toe with the real estate mogul. now comes bobby jindal. it's worth noting that donald

trump leads the latest poll, the new cnn survey has him at 32% nationally, but 51% of republicans nationally now think trump will be the republican nominee. he has been in a lot of spats with a lot of candidates. today louisiana governor bobby jindal -- who has not been the object of much trump ire -- went to the national press club to say enough is enough. here's just a little sampling of what he had to say. >> he's an egomaniac. the reality is we have an incredible opportunity to turn our country around, and the question for conservatives is this: are we going to rely and trust proven conservative principles, or are we going to turn to a man who believes in nothing but himself? donald trump could destroy america's chance to be great again. and as conservatives, we must not miss this golden opportunity. >> reporter: jindal is basically making the argument that hillary clinton is a gift to the republican party if she's the nominee and that the gop

ought to be able to easily win back the white house. but if donald trump is the nominee, it's not going to work. he is now in a fight with carly tree that. he was -- free that. he appeared to be critical of her looks. carly fiorina was on the air talking about it, and she said she's not going to stoop to that level. obviously, you heard in hillary clinton's remarks there with ed henry a moment ago, this has taken on a life of its own. now there's an argument that donald trump is essentially going after women and being sexist. in addition to that, trump is now in a scrape with ben carson, the retired neurosurgeon. the other night ben carson suggested that there is a difference, when asked, between himself and donald trump, and he said that he personally, ben car soften, gives all credit to god and suggested that he doesn't get the sense that's exactly where donald trump is at. trump is now questioning not only carson's faith, but his history as an abortion foe and has even described him as just an okay doctor.

and, of course, ben carson is a renowned internationally-famous pediatric neurosurgeon, the first ever to separate conjoined twins, and a lot of other firsts. it looks as though the republican field -- carson's in second place going at trump, so he can't say carson's not a threat. bobby jindal, who is way down in the polls, is saying now what a lot of republicans have been wishing that a rival might say of donald trump. gregg: so to summarize, trump questions carson's faith and insults fiorina's face. go figure. carl cameron, thanks very much. >> reporter: you bet. jenna: while speculation increases about whether vice president joe biden will run for president, any candidate considering entering the race now has just a few weeks to get on the ballot in some very key states. joining us now, larry sabato. larry, we often mention this, there's only a few weeks left, but we rarely explain why. more for both, whether it's joe biden, someone new or candidates that are in the race so far, there's a few things that really

have to happen in the next few weeks that could get them in the race officially or out completely. what are those variables? >> jenna, you're absolutely right. and people within the campaigns focus on this. i don't think the general population does. but not only do you need money and organization and endorsements, but you have to fulfill the filing requirements in each of the states and the district of columbia and the six territories that have primaries, and this is a complicated process. it not only takes money, one state has a $40,000 filing fee, but you need signatures sometimes from all over the state and different parts of the state taken by registered voters and all the rest of it. so you really have to have a plan, and you have to get busy because on the republican side, for example, there are 15 states with deadlines before the end of this year. in fact, south carolina's is september 30th. jenna: and that's a state --

>> we're already into september. jenna: right. and that's the state that has the $40,000 filing fee. for someone, for example, like rick perry where there's been rumors circulating about the financial solvency of his campaign, that could be an important filing deadline, whether or not he makes that and is able to pay that whether or not he stays in the race? >> absolutely. now, $40,000 in a presidential contest is chicken feed. but it's also true that perry has essentially closed up his south carolina operation. will he even file? hey, that's the third contest. south carolina, in my view, is as important as iowa or new hampshire. apologies to iowa and new hampshire. you don't miss south carolina. jenna: it's interesting. we'll see what happens with perry and for a few other of the republican candidates that have been polling lower. of course, we have another debate next week, so anything can happen. for joe biden or anyone new that is still considering getting into the race, larry, what is

the realistic timeline for them? >> the realistic timeline was six months ago. [laughter] that's the truth. jenna: really? >> that's another factor whether biden is considering it or not, it's another big factor in that decision that he has to make. can he even do it organizationally and financially? jenna: do you think he can, larry? >> look at hillary. she's dropping like a rock, jenna, so possibly that's going to tip him into the race. but it's not easy. he's going to have to get everyone he's ever met involved very quickly if he's going to get on all these ballots. jenna: what do you think about that, larry? do you think he can do it? joe is joe, we saw him in pittsburgh over the weekend with the big crowds. are you leading towards yes or no for him? >> i'm going to be surprised if he does it because of the personal reasons involved. but i can't get inside his head, and it really is a very personal decision that he's making with his family. so we're all waiting with baited breath. jenna: i know we all wish we

could get inside some of these politicians' heads, or maybe not. i don't know -- >> not. no, no, no. [laughter] jenna: final question here, larry. i thought this was really interesting in "the new york times" written in the context for the race for the white house, trump versus, the quote-unquote, gop. what was interesting is that it applies to a lot of the candidates that are pomming very high. -- polling very high. grassroots conservatives and liberals may resent it, but many analysts -- including me -- argue that the outcome of presidential nominations is shaped or even decided by party elite ares. larry, post-tea party, anti-establishment movement, social media giving candidates a new way to reach out directly to voters, do you believe this still that the party elites will still eventually decide who is the candidate for president in the gop? >> they don't decide the nomination, i disagree with that term, but they are very influential in the process. they always have been.

i still believe they are. certainly social media and the other things you mentioned have made them less inprune cial. they're not the only channel to voters. they're not the only channel to donors. so, yes, you can do it outside the party leadership, but it is very difficult. it's always better to have at least some of them, some of the influential leaders on your side. jenna: well, interesting. the argument in this article is that will eventually be one of the factors for why trump is not the candidate, but we'll see. he certainly has been a surprise so far, and there's always a change. you never though when the change to the historical context is going to come. larry, great to see you as always. thank you so much. gregg: larry does not want to get into the heads of the candidates. can you blame him? jenna: can we name the party elites? i'd like to talk to them. i wonder what our viewers thinking about that, do they still have the power? gregg: we'll wait and see. a car found in a park near minneapolis, no sign of the driver, and now the search is on

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gregg: right now some crime stories we're following. police in minnesota looking for a missing woman. 37-year-old candy delmonico reported missing tuesday. her car was found near the wisconsin border, but there's no sign of candy. in montana officers capture a suspected killer after a three-day manhunt. he was hiding out in a homemade trailer in a ravine north of helena. he's expected in a court of law today. and a michigan driver arrested after hitting and killing a firefighter.

police believe it was a deliberate act. 35 be-year-old dennis roadman was in the road collecting money for charity when he was struck. the driver tried to flee on foot but police caught up to him. jenna: well, the president of the european commission urging e.u. members to accept his plan and take in tens of thousands of migrants with more on the way battling heavy rains now today. our senior foreign affairs correspondent greg talcott is live in london watching this story. >> reporter: as if things couldn't get worse for the refugees, those bad conditions you mentioned making their nightmare even worse. on the border between greece and macedonia, 7,000 refugees caught out amid the mud, the search for shelter, the clashes with police. it is the biggest number that has crossed that border ever in this crisis. we've been hearing that across the continent. denmark, a sign of confusion amid the countries how to deal with these refugees, yesterday they were blocking them from coming in and crossing that

country into sweden to seek asylum. today the roads and railways were open, there's over 3,000 in that country. and there comets to be no let-up in the refugees coming over from turkey. on one greek island, 17,000 has been registered just in the last couple days. how to distribute these refugees across europe will be the main topic of discussion at the meeting on monday of top e.u. officials. also possibly to be addressed, the threat of terrorists from syria and elsewhere intermingling with these crowds of refugees. another politician here today raised that specter. there has been anecdotal herence of weapons and cash say -- including one key expert we spoke with today -- incredibly that refugee route is even too dangerous, too risky for the terrorists. there are safer ways of mixing in, we are told, and reaching their targets. also, jenna, we have no indications that there is any formal screening for terrorists

among these crowds, although conceivably the registration rollings of the refugees could be matched up with terror databases found this most countries -- in most countries. that could be done maybe when the chaos settles down. back to you. jenna: we'll see, greg. thank you. gregg: it was the gateway to the american dream for millions of immigrants. now jenna lee gives us a rarely-seen glimpse at the hidden halls of ellis island. plus, bombshell testimony in the murder trial of a man accused of pushing his wife off a cliff. a coroner telling jurors about anonymous letter that changed the whole investigation.

gregg: right now new developments in the murder trial

of a colorado man, his name is harold henthorn, accused of pushing his wife, toni, off a cliff three years ago. prosecutors say the motive was a multimillion dollar insurance policy. the defense maintains the fatal fall was all an accident, and after the fact he tried to save his wife. now a deputy coroner testifying to jurors that the investigation suddenly changed after anonymous letter revealing that the defendant's first wife also died suddenly and suspiciously back in 1995. let's bring in criminal defense be attorney eric duster, former president troy slayton. normally prosecutors can only present evidence of the crime for which the accused is charged. but the judge made a ruling here. he said, you know, these are so similar, first wife/second wife, it's a pattern of conduct. so now the accused is having to sort of defend double trouble here. how damaging is it?

>> it's very damaging. i mean, jurors are going to think that, you know, with regard to the first case where a car mysteriously fell on his wife that it just doesn't happen where a house falls on a witch like in the wizard of oz, the car fell on his wife. you know, lightning doesn't strike twice this exactly the same spot usually. he's going to have a hard time defending both of these cases now. gregg: you know, eric, the motive here as we mentioned in the intro is money, that the defendant took out $4.7 million in life insurance policies, and the evidence will show according to prosecutors she never even knew about it, also that he lied to police about it early on. and guess what? he took out life insurance policies on his first wife as well. how damaging, in your view? >> it's very damaging. but you have to look at it from the defense side.

yeah, he had insurance policies, he had -- most people have insurance policies on their spouses. but it is bad against the defense because people are going to say what did he have to gain from her death? it's all about the money. so they're going to tie this money to the death and saying, look, this man took out some insurance policies, didn't tell his wife, so he possibly killed her. but the prosecution still has a mountain of a case to try to climb on this one. gregg: yeah. you know, troy, a lot of his story didn't make sense to authorities and prosecutors. for example, he scouted out that very location, a remote trail nine times in advance of his wife's death. and then they found in his car a map of the park with an x marking the spot where she fell. and he had no extra nation for it. what do -- explanation for it. what do you make of that? >> you know, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence in this case. and, gregg, as a former lawyer you know that circumstantial evidence can be just as good as

direct evidence. i mean, you don't have to actually see it raining when you walk outside and it's all wet and people are closing their umbrellas and taking off their slickers. the judge will tell this jury that circumstantial evidence is just is as good as direct evidence. i mean, he said that he was giving her cpr for an hour, but her lipstick wasn't smurch smudged. gregg: right. >> there's a $30,000 diamond missing from her ring. she wasn't a very good hiker, but she's at this area with difficult terrain. a lot of stuff just doesn't make sense. gregg: i mean, he said when his wife fell he was on the cell phone, but turns out there was no cell phone. things aren't adding up. friends are prepared to testify to the jurors that in advance of marrying toni he did extensive financial checks on three different women before deciding which one to marry, and toni apparently had a lot of money. and he told her, hey, i'm a

wealthy entrepreneur. apparently, he had no income coming in. does it look to the jurors perhaps like this guy was a con man? >> it's going to look like he was beyond a con man, he was a killer for money. that's what it's going to look like. especially when you talk about millions of dollars. this is not a $10,000 or $20,000 policy. this is multimillions, and that's going to look bad. but you have to remember that the prosecution has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. it was also mentioned that she was not a great hiker. she was not skilled which could go to the defense's version that she just slipped and fell on these steep rocks. because when the rangers went to inspect the area, that ranger had to be on all fours to scale the mountain and go back down. so it was a very dangerous place, and it's reasonable -- not likely -- it's reasonable that she may have fallen. gregg: yeah. 4.7 million.

you're absolutely right. burden of proof on prosecution. all it takes is one juror to hang it up, but 4.7 million in insurance policies? who does that? and she didn't know about it. so, boy, that's a tough one for the defense to try to argue in closing arguments. guys, good to see you. everything guster, d eric guster, troy slayton, good to see you, thanks. jenna: do you know the truth about what really happened there? we have some exclusive on an area of ellis island very few have seen in decades. we're going to show you the hidden halls next. plus, an eye on wall street as the dow reacts to new job numbers. what it could mean for your bottom line. ♪ at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good.

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jenna: right now a quick look at what's still to come this hour of "happening now." new drama for the pilot of that british airways flight that burst into flames on the runway. the life-changing decision he just made, and why the feds arrested a father/daughter duo over fraudulent weddings. plus, it's the gateway to the american dream, and we're going to take you behind the scenes at ellis island just moments from now. gregg: fox business alert on new jobless numbers reaching near historic lows. applications for unemployment benefits dropping to 275,000

last week. well, the dowdy jesting those numbers -- dow digesting those numbers as well as losses overseas, up slightly. lots of green air eaus. lauren simonetti live with that story. >> hi there, i like the word slightly because we're not seeing these huge moves in either direction, and that feels good for a change. investors are welcoming that job in jobless claims. it's one reason the dow is up about 30 points. but the overhang for the markets is still two things. number one, what does the fed do on interest rates exactly one week from today? and, number two, how fast is china's economy slowing? those are the main reasons for the recent volatility we've seen in the markets. apple shares rebounding as well, this a day after the company unveiled the iphone 6s and 6s plus. they'll have that 3-d touch to respond to the pressure of your fingertips, a 10-hour battery life, and you can preorder on saturday.

apple also having folks sign up for two-year contracts and in the process upgrade their phones every year or two if they pay about $30 a month to do so. then there's apple tv, you can talk to it via the remote control, it will support third party apps. the new apple tv hits the market next month, about $150. and finally the ipad pro with a gigantic almost 13-inch screen. look, this is so expensive, it starts at $800. and the pro works with the pencil, the apple pencil, the stylus that you buy separately, but it is the same exact tool the late steve jobs dissed! >> who wants a stylus? [laughter] you have to get 'em and put 'em away and you lose 'em. yuck. [laughter] nobody wants a stylus. so let's not use a stylus. we're going to use the best pointing device in the world, a pointing device that we're all born with. we're born with ten of them, we're going to use our fingers. >> that was actually eight years

ago, and eight years later apple came out with a stylus under new leadership. gregg: you know, that's the great thing about videotape and the -- can i mean, whatever you've said is out there. >> it's out there. and we'll pull it when we need it. [laughter] gregg: yep, we sure will. lauren, thanks. >> thank you. jenna: well, the migrant crisis in europe is now showing us once again the life or death struggles of people fleeing their homes seeking a better life. and under very different circumstances, hundreds of thousands shared those same struggles in an effort to come to the united states. their journey required a stop at ellis island, and that had its own obstacles including very strict health screenings. at the peak of its operation in the early 1900s, ellis island had the largest public health service facility in the united states where some were cured and sent on and others never left. we were lucky enough to get an exclusive look at this special area of ellis island few have

seen in more than 60 years. ♪ ♪ jenna: scenes like this remind us of our past and one of the most iconic places in all of america, ellis island. nearly half of all americans today have at least one relative who entered the country through the gateway to the american dream. and while we can easily tour the great hall where most immigrants spent a few hours before heading to their next destination, an untold story exists just a short walk away where the less fortunate ended up. a unique path only few have walked since the doors closed in 1954. the hidden halls of ellis island. >> if you failed your medical inspection, you'd be detained in the hospital complex. jenna: would your whol be with you or just single individuals? >> it depended on who you were. if you were a child, a family

member stayed with you until they determined whether or not you were going to be admitted. if you were a husband or a father and you were detained, then the entire family would be detained here with you. jenna: this hallway is the very same path walked by immigrants who just learned the heart-sinking news, they'd be admitted to the hospital. so just like people who came here, they had to have the right gear to be let into the country, so we need the right gear. >> you will need to wear a hard hat. jenna: i do love my hard hats. it makes me feel very legitimate. ready? let's go. [laughter] ♪ ♪ jenna: so what would screeners be looking for? >> things that are -- [inaudible] diphtheria, measles, whooping cough, scarlet fever. jenna: now, we're not going to get any, you guys cleaned up, right? [laughter]

just checking. ♪ there are. ♪ jenna: the skeleton of the contagious disease ward still stands much as it did in the early 1900s. poison ivy now wraps itself around old windows framing the hallways in what was once the largest hospital this the country. >> not everybody got treatment. you were going to be detained first. they were going to decide whether or not you had something that could be treated and cured. jenna: really? >> and then find somebody who could pay for it. there are. jenna: of the 12 million people who filed through ellis island at its peak, one out of every five people were detained. however, less than 1% of those detained were admitted to the hospital. serious health detention, though infrequent, happened for many reasons. for example, approximately 350 babies call ellis island their birthplace, though they didn't get automatic citizenship.

more often health detention happened for more common ailments. who determined you are free to go but you, you have to stay? >> well, so there were a couple things that had to happen to be admitted into the hospitals, and you had to have something that could be cured and that shall be had to pay for your treatment. treatment here wasn't free. jenna: in fact, until an immigrant could determine who would pay for their health care, the department of labor -- who managed ellis island at the time -- sent the bill to whatever steamship company delivered that immigrant. how long could you stay on ellis island? let's say you were found to have a contagious disease, would people stay here for days, weeks, months, years? >> yes, a all of those. jenna: even years? >> yes. the person who was paying for your treatment runs out of money, and you could still be deported. jenna: obviously, sometimes you'd be really sick, and you could also, unfortunately, not make it, right? >> right. about 3500 people do die on ellis island. jenna: and so during the next

hour of "happening now," we're going to take you to one of the places. again, this was a research hospital. gregg: right. jenna: because some of the doctors were seeing things they hadn't seen before, there was a essential place to make sure that they could diagnose what the ailment was. and so we'll show you that. we'll also show you some of the wards where people were treated so you can actually see what they look like now. but it was really remarkable to learn that the treatment wasn't free. so you had these very strict standards -- gregg: right. jenna: -- very compassionate treatment, but if you couldn't pay, you were deported. gregg: right. that's the catch 22 of it all. that's an area of ellis island or a history that i never knew. jenna: right. gregg: the treatment of people there for long periods of time. jenna: and like jessica, who was our tour guide, she was amazing, she told us you could be treated there for months, and you could get better, and you wouldn't be able to foot the bill, and you would have to go home. now, you would have the chance

to come back with a clean bill of health, but what's ago interesting is that the united states did not want custody of anybody coming into the country until we gave a stamp of approval. and that's why the bill was sent to those steamship companies -- who didn't like that, by the way, that they were being billed. but they were responsible for the health of their passengers, so the they delivered somebody who was sick, it was our thinking that they had to pay for that treatment until the patient could. gregg: they have a scene in the godfather where a child comes over, and he's quarantined for several months. jenna: right. see? it happens. gregg: that was the only time i'd ever heard of it. well done. jenna: we'll get the second part during the next hour of "happening now." i'm excited to show our viewers and hear what you have to think as well. gregg: look forward to it. all right, dramatic video out of japan. helicopters rescuing people trapped inside their homes as torrential rain causes massive flooding. plus, police investigate a

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jenna: well, one person is missing after massive floods in japan. several people also injured when heavy rain caused flood waters to burst through a barrier. the water flooding hundreds of homes and causing landslides as well. the hardest hit area is north of tokyo, one woman disappearing after a landslide hit houses. some waiting on rooftops for helicopter rescues. gregg: this just in, arizona authorities now investigating two more attacks on a very busy highway. the latest incidents happening this morning on interstate 10 near phoenix. in one a car window was damaged after a projectile of some sort hit it. no damage in a separate report of a gunshot. police confirmed ten other

similar attacks, seven of them shootings, the director of public safety now calling the incidents domestic terrorism crimes. dan mozino joins us, an international security consultant, former secret service agent for president obama. dan, great to see you. twelve attacks in as many days, what do we have on our hands, a serial sniper or snipers, and is this, indeed, terrorism? >> well, it very well could be, gregg. and the police department out there, they're very professional. they wouldn't put out a statement like that if there wasn't some kind of investigative bread crumb leading them to believe this wasn't just a bunch of kids engaging in reckless behavior looking for attention. this could be, potentially, very serious. frightenly enough, gregg, i think this is a harbinger of what we're going to see more of in the future. gregg: you know, is it in your mind sort of reminiscent of the infamous beltway sniper attacks back in 2002 perpetrated by john

mohamed and lee malvo? mohamed was later executed, he's on the left. malvo's doing left. their motive was islamic jihad and, in fact, at least one terrorism conviction was had in that case. >> right. yeah, gregg, that's a great point. i was in washington, d.c. in the maryland area, an instructor at the secret service training center in prince georges county at time, so i remember vividly how that paralyzed the entire area, the mohamed shootings there. this kind of thing, and this is what really frightens me about these lone wolf-style attacks if this is the case in this incident in arizona, these multiple incidents, it's very difficult, gregg, to pick up and close these cases down because the investigative bread crumbs are so few. think about it, there's very little training needed. obviously, you just have to learn how to pull a trigger at this case. basic marksmanship at best.

there's a small network, there's not a lot of p planning, and each step leaves an investigative bread crumb that an investigator can pick up. they're not there in these types of cases. they're very hard to investigate. gregg: smaller tactical assault seems to be the latest strategy by terrorists. lone wolf attacks, there's an online al-qaeda magazine that is, has long been encouraging terror attacks on u.s. soil. now they're encouraging attacks on economic leaders, bill gates, warren buffett, koch brothers, ben bear man -- bernanke, larry ellison, the list goes on and on. do home grown jihadists look to this particular online magazine for directing their particular targets? >> oh, absolutely. we already have evidence of this in the boston bombing attack with the tsarnaev brothers who took some rest szobs from inspire -- lesson ises from inspire magazine. gregg, this is very serious.

you do not want to see, obviously, your name on that list. what's very important about this as well, these were not just randomly-selected wealthy people they picked. there's a nexus here with the koch brothers, sheldon edelson whose name has come up. these are people intimately involved in the political arena as well. these aren't actors, people with just a public profile. they have a political profile as well, and i think that was done intentionally. that was not by mistake. gregg: and there's an extortion come tonight to -- component to this, dan, as well, because the al-qaeda web site says you can get off the target list if you withdraw all your money from american banks and denounce israel. is this an attempt by jihadists to disrupt the u.s. economy? >> of course. this is -- absolutely. this is what terrorists do. they inspire terror looking to meet an end game goal. whatever means they have to get there, they will implement. but this is a strategy that's been -- if you look at al-awlaki's statements as early as 2000, this has been a

strategy early on to implement more of these lone wolf-style attacks rather than these large, organized 9/11 attacks. 9/11 cost a half a million dollars and almost a year of training to get done. these cost almost nothing, and you can get nearly the same effect. gregg: dan, thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks,.gregg. jenna: well, he's credited with guiding passengers to safety. now a hero pilot speaks out on what he won't be doing next. plus, fake weddings and fraudulent visas what authorities now call a mull by million dollar illegal immigration scheme. mornings. wonderful, crazy mornings.

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>> big day on capitol hill. hillary clinton's one-time i.t. guy to testify before the benghazi committee. or will he? what if he takes the fifth like he said he would? or what if he gets immunity? is. >> plus, he went there. donald trump with a personal attack on the only woman in the republican field for the white house. well, has he finally crossed the line? we're going to debate that. >> uh-huh. and he's now correct. politically correct. james bond dealing with stronger women and anti-smoking messages. [laughter] >> the verdict on that and more with our #oneluckyguy straight in from miami, judge alex back on outnumbered. gregg: and i was so looking forward to the next bond film, and thousand you've ruined it. >> oh, i know. gregg: who wants that kind of bond, all right? >> not me. gregg: thank you, you guys. >> thank you. jenna: federal authorities busting what they call a decade-long immigration racquet in california. -- racket in california.

they accuse the organizers of setting up phony marriages between americans and chinese citizens making millions in the process. william la jeunesse from our west coast newsroom. >> reporter: these couples went to elaborate measures to fake their marriage, photos at the bridal shop, a church, memorizing birthdays, how you met. fake bank statements, apartment leases and, of course, practicing how to lie during the immigration interviews. these are just a few of the pictures from the fake bride and grooms. here's how the scam worked. a father/daughter team in pasadena posing as immigration lawyers put ads in chinese-language newspapers passing for a fee of 50 grand to get a chinese national an american to marry so they could get u.s. citizenship or permanent lawful status, usually takes about three years. now this guy, shannon mendoza, he recruited the hard-up americans who typically got about two grand up front, 400 a month until the immigration

interview and then another lump sum. only problem was that jason chow and his daughter, lynn, didn't always keep their promise. one american who wasn't fully paid called immigration which started the investigation. now, it turns out jason and his daughter -- who carry dual citizenship from china and australia -- arranged 70 fake weddings over last decade for $be 3.5 million in revenue. but chinese nationals are willing to pay top dollar for the visa, and of course, the holy grail can, u.s. citizenship. recall the story we did earlier this year on the so-called anchor baby scam or pregnant chinese women arrived in the u.s. on a tourist visa, lied about being pregnant, had the baby to gain citizenship and then went become to china until it was time to get the taxpayer-paid education for their kid. now, in this case the couples did not live together, nor did they consummate their marriage, and once the can chinese national got their citizenship, the couples divorced. jason and his daughter face five

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>> see you back in an hour and part two of hidden walls of ellis island. we cannot wait to show you that. in the meantime, "outnumbered" starts now. this is "outnumbered." i am andrea tantaros, and here with us today is sand ra smith, fox business melissa francis, the author -- wife of chris kyle is back and today judge alex ferrer is here. >> it is great to be back. >> all hail. >> i like the all hail. next time in court instead of all rise, all hail. hail to the chief.