no matter what happens, a reliable network has your back. hello, i'm dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." the second prime time gop debate of 2016 is just three hours away, and the stakes are getting higher with the first election contest growing closer. what can we expect in round two? this hour our predictions and our two cents for the 11 candidates, but first, a quick look back at some of the highlights from round one. >> is there anyone on stage, and can i see hands, who is unwilling tonight to pledge your support to the eventual nominee of the republican party and pledge to not run an independent

campaign against that person? >> i don't trust president obama with our records. i know you gave him a big hug and if you want to give him a big hug again, go right ahead. >> senator paul, you know the hugs i remember are the hugs gave to the families who lost their people on september 11th. >> i think you're on the wrong side of this if you're still arguing for a single payer. >> i don't think you heard me. you're having a hard time. >> i'm proud of my dad and certainly proud of my brother. >> i think god has blessed us. >> i'm very hopeful i'm not the only one who is willing to pick up the baton of freedom because freedom is not free and we must fight for it every day. >> campaign carl cameron joins us to help us kick off our coverage of the big event live from the ronald reagan presidential library in simi valley, california. carl, i know you have been out there all day. set the stage for us. how are things shaping up? >> reporter: well, the campaign

is -- the candidates have been trickling through the spin room actually in advance of the debate. a short time ago ben carson came through and he was mobbed by the cameras and folks asked him again as an outsider with no experience how can you be commander in chief? how can you run the country? and he quite simply said it doesn't take experience, it takes common sense and i'll be surrounded by wise people. and that has gotten into a tie nationally on some poles, or a virtual tie. and now there are polls that show carson has moved into a virtual tie with trump as the front-runn front-runner. and then an absolute battle between the other eight, carly fiorina has ascended to the top tier. she gets that outside er status too. the other eight candidates have been mired in the low single digits since the last debate. all of them pushed down there because of the ascent of trump

and carson. >> before we kick it around the table, there is another debate, and earlier debate, and do you expect anything to come out of that. >> reporter: well, it will only be four candidates participating in that one because carly fiorina has jumped up to the top tier and rick perry has left the race. we're given to understand that rick santorum, the pennsylvania senator who won the 2008 iowa caucuses, is coming ready to fight. in large measure because it's a small roster in the earlier afternoon debate and there will be enough time. part of what's going to happen tonight on the big stage is 11 candidates standing next to one another for what could be three hours means that fatigue, even a bathroom break, could be a real distraction and distracted on a campaign debate stage could lead to sloppiness and/or miscues. so the sheer length of it tonight is something to watch. >> that's a good thing to watch. kimberly, we'll start with you. >> we saw some complaints about that already, about the length of it. but they're already trying to

make a distinction from the fox news debate in terms of their strategy and their approach for tonight to be able to try to make it as successful as ours was. tell bus that, carl. >> reporter: well, the moderators have made it clear they will pose questions to the candidates specifically intended to cause a fight between them. so they'll ask huckabee a question about what donald trump said or they'll ask ben carson about what carly fiorina said in order to pit them against one another. that could raise lots of fireworks, and, again, patience is going to be a key strategy tonight. the candidates on the fringes of the roster, the ones back in the polls, might get impatient if they don't get their fair share of questions and could react. one of the questioners tonight will be hugh hewitt. trump said they were gotcha questions, a lot of people said they were standardized questions. that's something that could play into this as well.

in addition to the other cnn officials. this will be the first republican debate where the rnc had suggested the hosts include a conservative journalist to make sure the questions focus on the issues that republicans care about. >> juan williams? >> carl, i'm glad to see you got the memo on the tie. i think it's so interesting you talked about the outsiders. i'm sort of interested in an insider, jeb bush. he has been slipping in those polls since the first debate. the question is now what does he have to do tonight? >> reporter: he has to show he's plausible, he can stand up to donald trump and not necessarily be made to look small by one of trump's one-liner, show stopping insults. the other aspect is jeb bush, the pedigree he has, standing in the reagan library can talk about his dad's service with ronald reagan. he can talk about his brother's service to the country as president, and this could be one of the opportunities where his heritage could be an asset.

the 11th commandment by ronald reagan was thou shalt not speak ill of another republican. we're given to believe there will be a lot of ill speaken. ronald reagan wouldn't go into the oval office without a jack and tie. there was a rev rebs and if the name calling gets to abrasive ths possible one of them will stand up and say you are not legging le living up to the legacy of ronald reagan. >> now to eric. >> carl, want to play a little game with me here? >> reporter: i can try. >> three questions, your choices are over or under. love the numbers. so 30 is my number for the amount of times -- number of times that ronald reagan or the gipper's name is invoked. over or under? >> reporter: under and the

college kids and the drinking games are going to be dangerous places. >> 15 million, the amount of people who watch tonight? >> reporter: under. i think it will be larger, at least for the first couple hours but when we get past 11:00, i think it will be lower. >> and the important one, number of candidates that take a shot at donald trump tonight thinking that that's the best tactic to get on the screen. >> reporter: probably all but three. maybe three candidates will not get around to it or will chootichoose not to take the bait or decide for them it's more important to rise above it. >> thank you. i'm glad you didn't ask me over/under. i never understood that whole betting thing. >> over/under means something totally different where i come from. over/under, carl. the candidate, carl, they're on stage, there are so many of them the

they are actually only 20 minutes apart so how important is hygiene? >> reporter: well, hygiene and language and expresses. a lot of times you see in the cutaway shots, the two candidates who are going after each other, they will put them on a split screen. any candidate who looks at his watch, any candidate who rolls his or her eyes or as john kerry used to do, huffing and sighing, that is a disaster. they have to appear presidential, calm, they have to appear to have it together tonight and show they are plausible presidents. donald trump has introduced a new kind of political rhetoric, a new tone and tenor to all of this stuff. debates don't always lend themselves to that. you can win an argument and then the next day people wake up and say both of the people in the argument ended up looking bad. >> carl, follow up, do you think that birtherism is going to come up? i predict it will be the first question to donald trump. >> reporter: if it is and he answers it, it will be the first

time he's done so. he's been asked about his questioning of the president's birth place and birth certificate a number of times during the campaign and he has consistently said i don't want to talk about that. but it's well to note during the 2012 and 2008 campaigns drurona trump was one of the people leading the questions about mr. obama's heritage and birth place. >> thank you, carl. we're excited to watch tonight. >> reporter: you bet. >> don't miss the strongest post debate analysis on television right here on the fox news channel starting at 11:00 p.m. eastern. ahead, you will hear some of the candidates talking strategy for round two. that's next on "the five."

when you do business everywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about.

that's where at&t can help. at&t has the tools and the network you need, to make working as one easier than ever. virtually anywhere. leaving you free to focus on what matters most.

back now with more on the big debate tonight. here are six of the candidates on their plans for the second face-off of 2016. >> i don't think that my strategy is going to change at all. it's going to be to tell the truth and to talk about, you know, my vision for america. >> we have a chance to usher in the greatest era in america's history. this is not a game show. it's not a production. it is, in fact, deciding the most important political office in the world. >> i'm going to mix it up

because i like to rumble and i like to make sure people know the differences between the candidates. >> they want to see that passion, they want to see you have a real plan and real solutions, and that provides the contrast to anybody else out there. >> i think mr. trump is going to be hearing quite a lot from me. i think my standards are what the american people would appreciate. >> the debate, i hear they're all going after me. whatever. whatever. >> okay. whatever. you know what? i bet you they all do have a trump strategy. >> you better. he's a front-runner, of course you have to have a strategy. >> he also said he won't take a shot first. ha >> that's good. the best thing he could do is take shots at obama and hillary. i don't have to worry about these guys, i'm going after the main event. >> go on the offensive and then if somebody comes after him he's going to counter punch but not go on the oferz with the other candidates. he doesn't need to. >> who -- we talked about scott walker needing a big debate

night tonight. who else needs a big debate. >> bush. can i point out the problem here is with the happy hour table. carly did great on the first debate because the rest were so glum. but now that she's left, it's like blondy without debbie ha y harry. i think everybody should watch special report instead. >> it's a good idea. >> very sweet of you. >> how will we talk about the debate. i will watch it. >> you watch it for us. >> you said jeb bush. what does he need to do? >> clearly pump up the volume, but what else? >> as carl cameron was saying, it's the home of ronald reagan. you don't have the big audience so it's a lot of insiders, and for his donors right now, they are a little bit anxious about what's going on with jeb bush. so he's got to demonstrate command, leadership, the ability to hold and be present on that stage in a way that distinguishes himself from trump without getting into a school yard back and forth. >> i don't disagree but can i

add one? >> yeah. >> governor kasich. he needs to have a big debate because he holds his own, he's a great governor, a really good record. he made it just barely into that debate -- well, just because he announced late. he did okay. the question for him is scale. can he scale up his campaign in order to compete a little bit more. >> this is one of the issues for kasich and for some of the others is people don't know who they are. we do at this table, but nobody knows who john kasich is. kasich is a direct threat to jeb bush because he's a sitting governor with a record. >> and to marco rubio. establishment ties going on there. can i throw up -- >> rand is a tea party candidate. i don't think you can call him establishment. >> i think he's seen as establishment. >> he ran and won as a tea party candidate. >> this is a problem with the republican party. the problem with the republican party is there are factions that are constantly labeling each

side as a way to get an edge, and it actually does a disservice to a lot of these candidates. for example, i believe that the candidate that does very well is the one that points out who is moving left. who is for higher taxes, who is for a trade war, who is for eminent domain, who is for not tearing up the iran deal. >> who could that be? who could you be talking about . >> no liables therabels there. >> person -- it's trump obviously. >> my point is that's a legitimate debate point. you might say that's bashing but you have to say, okay, is your republican candidate moving left? >> that's not what i'm saying. if they point out what would be perceived as flaws to the conservative base, if they do that, he gets 30 seconds to respond and if it continues back and forth he can respond a second time. you're going to end up having two hours and 40 minutes, half of it will be donald trump. >> but that's a debate.

you have to actually debate over the issues, over taxes for example. do you favor taxing the rich more? do you favor a trade war? do you favor eminent domain? these are actual questions that need to be raised by republicans, especially if you think that as a republican you see your party moving left. >> is that -- >> they've got great opportunities tonight. why not. earn it. get up there, perform. show us that you've got what it takes, you've got the specifics. shoot them down one at a time. this is the best opportunity somebody could have but i'm looking for rubio and walker and christie and even rand paul, they're going to mix it up, they're going to come in strong. i'm curious to see how karly will do. i think she's very steady. she's strong. i expect like ben carson to be the sage he was last time but remember the last time people were talking about how well rubio did. let's see what he does. they better do something because people are slipping in the polls. >> and there's somebody we've not even mentioned and he's got a decent following and that's governor huckabee. he needs to have a really good debate.

>> yeah. >> there are a lot of them -- can we do a little prediction here. what is this, september 16th. >> does it involve money again? >> halloween. how many of the 11 on the stage are still going to be in the race six weeks from now? >> i think they're all still here because the financial structure is such that they can all hang around. who should be in the race may be the better point. >> you think these 11 will still be here. >> they'll still be here. >> you have people that are going to drop out that are in the earlier debates. >> i'm talking about these 11. >> i don't know. i think they're still be -- >> i would love to see at least four or five go because when you have 11 people on stage, you rely on moments and not articulation. everybody is thinking like a pundit, like how can i come up with that one little hot spot that will be memorable as opposed to articulating a persuasive argument about a specific issue. and you don't get that. ironically it's the people at the 6:00 show that will be able

to tulle articulate. >> let me ask you a question, so you're the moderator, right? do you ask substantive questions and does the audience care? >> oh, i hope -- >> what? >> the audience will care, but -- from the cnn side or from the donald trump side, if donald trump gets what he wants, i think he'll get exactly what greg points out. where everyone starts picking apart the things people don't like about him because the guy -- he loves the camera. he loves to get the attention. >> right. >> and he deflects very well. >> what of ted cruz? will he stand there and hold dona donald's jacket? >> is the audience tuning in for anything other than the trump show? >> you have to admit the reason -- well, i picked 15 -- we have a little side thing going on here. i said 15 million people are going to watch. you say 20 million. if it wasn't donald trump on the stage, would it be $20 million?

>> of course not. >> it's not a face-off, it's a persona off. >> hugh hewitt said it will be a substantive debate about foreign policy and national security. >> you can't do a nonsubstantive debate for three hours. i mean, that's a long time to do cotton candy. >> remember those? >> yes. >> all right. >> let's stick around for a while. >> one of the moderators tonight has tipped off the candidates he plans to ask tough questions on national security. who is in the strongest position to field those questions. coming up.

hey, hey, hey, in a -- >> i didn't want to say what that was but i think you know. >> in a short speech billed as a

national security address, donald trump didn't mention isis, but he said other stuff. now, where did i leave that montage? oh, there it is. >> we're going to be building up our military. we're going to make our military so big and so strong and so great. it will be so powerful that i don't think we're ever going to have to use it. nobody is going to mess with us. we're not going to sign deals where we have four prisoners over there and they're still there. the leaders of mexico, japan, china, and every other country that we do business with, they're smarter, more cunning, sharper than our leaders. i have the smartest people in this country lined up. i know the smartest. >> now, he said he'd make the military so big we'll never need it. okay. size does relate to readiness which is a real concern. but size doesn't matter to the terrorists planning attacks here. when it comes to preventing them, we need specifics. you got to go deep. president reagan understood the communist xlet whthreat when het

down. does anyone have the same handle on terror. you can't assume a leader will learn in office, not when one error spells ruin. to defend 317 million lives, insults aren't going to work. george will isn't the guy who is chopping off those heads. maybe trump will have specifics tonight. we need them not just from him, however, but from everyone. for right now we have a president who let terror spread because he's too consumed by climate change. but as he frets over incremental increases in seal seous. the relentless expansion of threat based on a marriage of terror and technology. fewer bad men can do far more awful things using available tools every single year. the first candidate to talk about how to fight terror change gets my vote. we have a new far deadlier enemy and we need a leader who gets it, not electing one makes that

new enemy our own stupidity. >> let's go around the horn as they say, kimberly. who is the most qualified you believe to talk about the future threat of terrorism? i'm not talking about war, i'm talking about terror. >> i think marco rubio is very strong on foreign policy and national security. i have had the opportunity to hear him speak on multiple occasions. i think he's going to excel at that tonight. i also feel that chris christie is very strong and again i have spent time watching personal appearances he's had to listen to his messaging and his background and experience as a prosecutor and combatting terror. >> he had to deal with it? jersey because there are cases of terror in new jersey. >> but also as a prosecutor. so i think they both have an opportunity to do something there. this is a very pressing, very relevant issue, and so they should hit it out of the ballpark. >> juan, what do you make of this? >> well, i mean, this is a weakness for this group of

people. >> you think so? there's nobody. i disagrees completely. >> i think, in fact, this is a hillary clinton talking point, which is how can any of them compare to her experience. >> you mean to how she destroyed the middle east, the benghazi, the red line. oh, my god. >> the key point is what are you asking about? are you asking about the iran deal? if you're asking about the iran deal, give me an alternative. tell at the what you would do. i'm talking about the modern face of terror. >> i think the iranians are certainly sponsors of terror. i can't connect them to terror that's taken place here in the home but i think in the middle east they are to me the enemy. >> it's a good point. eric, what do you think? >> see what you did there. terror change instead of global terror warming. >> exactly. >> i think they're all good. any one of these you can almost pick any one and say they're going to protect the country. we have 2 million people in our military. we have the finest intel. i think they all have different ideas on when and where we

should be deploying our assets, but i think the country will be safe as long as they continue to support and finance the intel that it needs to be supporting. what is it $6 billion or $8 billion to the fbi. keep that number high. >> money. and we should give them more. >> i think they're all on board with that. >> what about you, perino? >> perino? like a burrito. >> i said perino. >> i think one of the things that's attractive about trump for people is that he seems to be able to put his finger on the pulse of americans feeling like our country is no longer respected in the world. part of make america great again is not just domestic politics but keep america as a super power -- >> strong -- >> that it is. i'm not saying he would have the best solutions but i don't think any of them are really going to know until they get there. part of that is a world view. i would ask more like do you

think america should intervene? do you think america should have enforced the red line or do you think we should leave them to it and deal with the consequences later? >> can i jump in and say for example on the migrant issue, it's occurring -- not speaking to your issue about terror. what do you think about these people fleeing and do we have any moral or national security obligation? >> and i would flip that right back on obama and clinton, 100%. >> i would go -- i'd have to say, karly -- look, right after 9/11, she delivered a ton of equipment to the nsa. it was supposed to go to retail and she shipped it over there. she worked for the cia. she didn't hold any political -- she wasn't a governor or a senator but she chaired the external advisory board at the cia which means she knows cyber terror which is something we're all going to have to face and the many threats that come with technology whether it's drones and things like that. she knows the players.

i think she's the sleeper here tonight. i really do, but that's just me and i'm just talking. and i'm the only one talking. we're going to go to a break. >> you were right. >> all right. thank you. what's hillary clinton doing tonight? hmm. will she be watching the debate? i'm sure she will. ed henry will be joining us. you do all this research on the perfect car. gas mileage, horsepower torque ratios. three spreadsheets later you finally bring home the one. then smash it into a tree. your insurance company's all too happy to raise your rates. maybe you should've done a little more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.

hillary clinton chose the night of the second gop debate to make her first appearance of the 2016 race on late night tv. she's going to be on "the tonight show" with jimmy fallon. any strategy behind that decision in let's bring in ed henry who has been traveling with her campaign. ed, and you're still smiling and not bored to death. interesting. >> i think there is a strategy because if you think about when the big fox debate happened at

the beginning of august, she was in a much different position in terms of the polls. she had something like a 30-point lead over bernie sanders at that pont and basically she said debate, what debate? she had an event in los angeles, sort of pretended the debate didn't happen. this time going on jimmy fallon, a little counter programming tonight, number one. and number two, she put out a video today, her campaign, attacking donald trump, attacking the rest of the field, and i think there was an important strategy behind it. it was a sort of mock episode of celebrity candidate apprentice, thank you -- >> you're welcome. >> a little reality show. thanks, greg. >> no problem, polka dotty. >> and i think the point she's trying to make is it's not just about donald trump, she's going to try to make the case that donald trump is pushing the rest of the field to the right on issues like immigration, on abortion. you have seen marco rubio and others sort of shift their position a bit to the right, and she wants to run against that because she wants to distract from the e-mail and the clinton

foundation and the other problems she has and focus on the republican field. >> all right. bolling, do you have a question? >> ed, since the campaign decided, the staffers or the advisers decided she needed to inject more heart and humor into her campaign a couple days ago, have you experienced any more heart and humor from the candidate? >> i think that they had a very specific plan to be more authentic and spontaneous, if you can follow that. >> interesting when you come up with a strategy to be more spontaneous. >> let me say it slower for greg. >> oh, my goodness. >> how long before she fires the whole staff? >> you took my question. >> this is dana's story. there's a "washington post" story today and you can jump in whenever you want, i don't want to steal your thunder, but it basically said, look, the clinton camp is finally fessing up in private that they have got problems. brooklyn, we have a problem here. it took them a while. but they're saying, look, we it out, an, we have a strategy, stick with that original plan. there's one way to read that. one way is they're still kind of

tone deaf and they're just going to dig a deeper hole. everything is fine we're going to stake with this. or dana's theory is they will start throwing people overboard. >> this is the prelude to the shake-up. >> when campaigns do that, a lot of times their numbers go up. they make adjustments. you know, you see it in sports. you see it in politics and you don't go with the same plan for 18 months. you obviously have to make -- >> she's still not a tom brady so you can change like your offensive coordinator, you can change -- >> he wants to make america great again. >> but this is the point. you can put everybody in you want and you can even have the best offensive line in and they can give you all the time in the world to throw the ball but if you suck, you suck. you're not going to get it done. >> why really know what to say to that. i think dana wanted to jump in. >> so today gallup came out with a word association. i say hillary you say what? and the majority of people say e-mail. >> diplomat.

oh. >> no. apparently it's e-mails and other things. so that story is not going away. she's going to testify on october 22nd. there are more documents to come out. that's not actually going to end for a while. do they have a strategy to deal with that? >> well, they actually think that this is going to help them, the benghazi committee, and we'll see. number one, she's out there and democrat dianne feinstein today said, look, now republicans are calling for a special counsel to investigate the e-mail deal and dianne feinstein said how much more money are we going to waste. you have the fbi, trey gowdy committee, how many committees? dianne feinstein made a fair point, hillary clinton has voluntarily said i will testify in front of trey gowdy in public. was it voluntary? that subpoena kind of forced matters, let's be honest, but at the end of the day there's an opportunity for her in october. it will be a few days after the first democratic debate to get out there. if trey gowdy and others overplay their hand and look like they're beating up on

hillary clinton, where did i see that again? >> every time you use a banned phase, you have to give us $5. >> i saw greg smiling and that rarely happens. >> forget hillary. america realizes she's as sincere as a chain letter. i want to talk about bill. he seems to be banging his head against the wall. he's trying to figure out a way to get back into the white house. >> you should turn this show down next time, man. >> bill clinton, what is he doing right now? who is he doing right now? where is he going? >> yeah, i don't know. hillary wants him to potentially be vp and so does mario lopez. >> here is the real deal -- >> answer the question. >> big dog, okay? he's been absent. >> yeah. >> and all of a sudden hillary clinton let slip in this "extra" interview, the thought has crossed my mind about him being

vp which doesn't make that much sense because -- >> i don't think she was being serious. >> she wasn't laughing. >> hard to tell. >> here is the broader point. he's doing a fund-raiser tomorrow in chicago. it's going to be the first time bill clinton actually gets there. he's pinch-hitting because hillary clinton decided -- >> or pinching. >> he's pinch-hitting because hillary clinton is going to new hampshire tomorrow instead. that's where i will be, and she's doing three day this is new hampshire. i don't remember her doing three day this is a row -- >> and tell us why she needs to do that, ed. >> that tells me bernie sanders is in the lead in new hampshire. she has problems there. she's going there and bill clinton is go to chicago to pinch hit at a fund-raiser and i think we're going to see more of him. the campaign is telling us this is the first of many fund-raisers. >> they were waiting. they were holding it in the back pocket. >> remember when al gore -- it was a different point in the campaign score, and al gore was saying i don't know about bill clinton. hillary clinton knows bill clinton at some point is going to be very important. >> let's talk inside democratic

party politics. a lot of people wondering about joe biden. yesterday joe biden comes out and he goes after donald trump as xenophobic, denigrating an entire group of people in terms of immigrants but particularly mexicans, the thieves and rapist, and then we know from when he was visiting new york last week, he's meeting with a major wall street -- >> robert wolf. >> i think last week you could make the case joe biden was not sounding like a candidate, he was sounding like a father who was understandably still grieving. i think when you sit down with a major fund-raiser like robert wolf, it suggests you're getting more serious about getting in. and just in the last hour, joe biden was out on the road making more comments talking about the debate tonight, saying that republicans are deniers on climate change. going after them on health care and women's health. the kind of themes we're hearing hillary clinton do, and so i think he's looking more and more like a candidate, number one, and i would argue sort of a counter thing, which is that

everybody assumes, boy, this is really bad news for hillary clinton. one little twist for you, which is when this race started and it looked like hillary was the inevitable nominee, there was talk about how sh she going to separate herself her obama. joe biden gets in, he's obama 3.0. >> this is the problem i said all along, she can't get to the right of hillary clinton. he can't get to the left of hillary clinton. so bernie sanders -- >> bernie sanders is already -- >> he occupies the left. >> i'd all of a sudden becomes the incumbent, not hillary clinton. >> that's a whole lot of effort and exhausting to try to help her win. what's in it for biden? >> i'm not saying he's doing it on purpose. >> i think he should just run and, you know, get the nomination and just beat her because it should be the best person -- >> there's a long way between him -- before you get in, you look like the perfect candidate on paper just like hillary clinton. she's got the resume. once you get in, you make a gaffe. >> he's a better campaigner. he's more likable. >> who has run twice and not

run. >> juan. >> just crushing it over there. >> what, juan? >> nothing. >> all right, juan, i'll deal with you during the break. but, ed, thank you. >> it was great seeing pu. >> thank you for dressing up. greg, go back in the corner. again, don't miss the fox news channel's post degrate break down with bill o'reilly, megyn kelly, and sean hannity beginning live at 11:00 p.m. eastern. and some final predictions on tonight. stay with us. next. and some final predictions on

♪ the 306 horsepower lexus gs. experience the next level of performance, and there's no going back. lease the 2015 gs 350 with complimentary navigation system for these terms. see your lexus dealer. ..

woman: when a student understands a concept for the first time. man: when the students get it. man: their eyes get big, the lightbulb pops on. woman: "i got it, i think i got it!" they light up. it's like magic. woman: this is not just a job. woman: the rewards i get are... priceless. man: we help kids grow, and that's part of the rush of teaching. narrator: the california teachers association. educators who know quality public schools make a better california for all of us.

some of the candidates might raise their voices tonight, but if all goes as planned, you won't hear a peep from the audience. according to "the new york times," cnn wants the crowd to remain silent asking the crowd not to cheer or boo during the debate. well, sounds to me, kimberly like -- >> boo! >> -- it take the energy away and hurts the star of the show, mr. donald trump. >> but he has enough energy. >> so it doesn't matter. >> right? >> i know he has energy. >> i don't know. it kind of reminds you you're supposed to be quiet during tennis but those are the sports that annoy me. >> annoy you? >> yes, i find them annoying. >> you would break protocol. you would just go at it.

>> be like the romans, yell, scream, get it on. i love it. like football, yeah. >> wow. >> that's wrong. >> what do you think? >> that's wrong. >> i actually like this rule. >> why? >> i think we'll get a lot more information. >> i agree. >> there's so much applause time and i just -- this would -- for me, and this is important -- >> it's three hours! >> there's 11 people. >> good gosh. >> half the people if not more said we needed more time. it will buy some time. >> do you know what the problem is, excuse me, dana, but there are people that are there just to cheer and they will cheer at whatever anybody says and you feel like you're being cheated. like when you're watching it's like watching "the daily show" or "the bill mahr show." we're republicans, you're supposed to be completely emotionless. that's how i watch movies. i don't express any emotion when i'm watching a movie. >> you never say oh,a h. >> i don't laugh when i go to

comedy clubs. i sit there with a grimace face. >> you see that beautiful woman, you have no reaction. >> i don't. why would i go to a movie and see a beautiful woman? >> or you can have a visit here from ms. perrino. >> talker. >> you know it. >> if you don't have anybody going ooh after a one-liner, and somebody goes ooh. >> i know, actually after the fox debate, i asked some people involved in the planning of the debate. i just asked if they thought it would be better to have asked for not any crowd reaction for the reasons that eric and greg have just mentioned. it was annoying as a viewer. however they said in the room. in the arena, it helped with the energy and movement of the event. it's just we have those things when you're at an event or speech, saying we're going to recognize the great people and please hold your applause to the end, but no one does. i love to roll my eyes.

you're not going to get out of control, but c'mon. >> i was on the other end of this? '12 with gingrich who went after me, and the audience responded, and it-gingrich. yeah, juan, you've got -- >> it was a tough moment for you. >> i'm going to tell you, you learn your lesson, don't you? >> juan, you got kind of smoked, oh, please. >> that's terrible. ♪ nobody's gonna drag me down

take a look at these bbq best cracked pepper sauce... most ribs eaten while calf roping... yep, greatness deserves recognition. you got any trophies, cowboy? ♪ whoomp there it is uh, yeah... well, uh, well there's this one. best insurance mobile app? yeah, two years in a row. well i'll be... does that thing just follow you around? like a little puppy! the award-winning geico app.

download it today. have you ever thought, "i could never do that"? have you ever thought... you just didn't have anything left in the tank? well - you do. because the courage is already inside. and my brother ray and i started searching for answers. (vo) when it's time to navigate in-home care, follow that bright star. because brightstar care earns the same accreditation

as the best hospitals. and brightstar care means an rn will customize a plan that evolves with mom's changing needs. (woman) because dad made us promise we'd keep mom at home. (vo) call 844-4-brightstar for your free home care planning guide. my lan early morning mode.de. and a partly sunny mode. transitions® signature™ adaptive lenses... are more responsive than ever. experience life well lit®. ...upgrade your lenses to transitions® signature™

all right. it's time for one more thing. i wish you could have heard that commercial break. we got great news today. you heard us talk about our producer/reporter barry. his mother had a bit of a cancer scare, but she underwent surgery at md anderson, and the tumor was removed. today they got the word the cancer is gone, she is cancer free, so it's a great day for the entire family. i think we picture of the oncologist and the surgeon. she was at md anderson. i also have a picture i think of all the grandkids. those are all her grandkids. she'll be back swimming with them soon. grad lace and thank you to the doctors. >> thanks be to god.

very exciting. i don't have sinus like that. i have weird news. dana perino news. this is a first. anybody who knows dana, she goes to bed about 8:45 in her strawberry shortkay onesie, but tonight she'll be on megyn kelly at midnight. you know what she looks like? a pumpkin. >> i think the three-our debate will keep me up. i hope you watch. so a lot of people thing that we can't make mexico pay for border security. however your plan is to seal the border, they can. i have a plan, i'm going to put it out here now, the benefits are it won't cost america a dime. it's not an import fee, so prices won't go up.

>> free market solution, and i guarantee this works. we empowered 1 million barrels of owl per day, st. based on the going price for oil. $45 a barrel would go directly to mexico, that's theirs. the other $2 out of our pocket affects nothing, goes into an escrow account we spend buying border security, whether it's the wall or border agent, that's almost exactly what it would cost to build a wall. if you don't want to build a wall, that would do it. that would seal your border and mexico guess what? pays for it. no? >> no, that sounds good. i'm just like -- i'm excited for this one. >> thank you, i'm super excite. i hope you are. >> bacon! >> oscar mayer has something call sizzle, all about the

bacon. it involves a swiping thing, cleaner than whole tinder site. what happens is it relies solely on bacon and what kind you like. for example, what kind of bacon do you like the most, pork, turkey or both? >> i'm more of a kevin. >> oh, god. you ruined it. >> paul? >> only turkey. >> nothing beats pork. i would eat that first, then it says what type of bacon do you prefer? thick cut, because more is more, that's me for sure. maple and sweet, on you lower sodium? >> maple and sweet, i'm not for that. >> do you like it chewie. >> no, crispy. >> crispy? i think this is such a good idea. this is so delicious. who's in in? >> juan, you're next. >> so mark zuckerberg said yesterday facebook is going to create a dislike button. i thought that's interesting, but guess what?

it doesn't mean you hate something, but you have empathy. a flood, a death and you're expressing empathy, but then how do they do that? >> i don't get it. special coverage tonight at 11 p.m., special report is next. \s this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier. there is only four our five u.s.-trained fighters. now 4 our 500, but four or five people. the administration's strategy to defeat isis is now until investigation after dozens of intelligence officers' complaints that the effort was not going anywhere near as well as the obama administration would have everyone believe. the big admission came today in testimony on capitol hill, rattling lawmakers and putting the white house back on its heels. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the sry