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reagan's air force one. republicans are divided over the mantel. trump's rivals stepped up the attacks including this exchange between trump and jeb bush over special interest money.

>> the one guy who had special interest and tried to get me to change my views and jennerous and gave me money was donald trump. he wanted casinno gambling. >> totally false. >> if i would have wanted it, i promise you, i would have gotten it? >> i will not be bought. >> i promise if i wanted it, i would have gotten it. >> you got hillary clinton to go to your wedding. maybe it works for hillary clinton and it doesn't work. >> i was a businessman and i got along with people and excuse me, that was my job. more energy, tonight, i like. that >> she bought compact and led to the destruction of the company. and the other company lucent. she was there before that and it was a catastrophe. she can't run my company. >> you ran up mountains of debts

and using other people's money and forced to file for bankruptcy. >> i never filed for bankruptcy. >> not once four times. >> why should we trust you with the finances of this nation? >> and so the question becomes were there any game changer ares. >> let's bring in chris wallace, donald trump sat on top of the heap, chris. was there enough of a change in his performance that you think there will be substantial changes in his numbers? >> i am not going to venture a guess on that, jon because i am consistently wrong on what would be the result involving trump and even as the previous debate. i tell you who i thought won the debate. carly fiorina had a very strong night. the strength, the precision of her arguments and marco rubio

particularly on foreign policy, his vision and command of the subject and chris christy who reminded people of what they liked. >> trump did fine. maybe not as commanding as in the first fox debate and a long period of time not being called on and in that sense ignored and diminished his standing and if that will affect in the polls, i have no idea. >> there was something interesting about a line that donald trump referred to in the introsaying he would get along with hillary clinton. and he said he would get along with vladimar putin and i am not sure most americans who want a president who gets along with putin. >> that was carly fiorina's strongest. last thing we need is more talk with putin.

only thing he understands is power. is force. and talked about a variety of things. reinstate missile defem in europe that president obama stopped. incidentally that exchange between bush and trump on the question if trump wanted a casinno in florida. and they say that trump was wrong and bush was right. and trump did try to get a casinno and he worked with the seminole indians and it went to bush when he was governor of florida and he rejected it and the lobbyist went back and told him what was the reaction in tallahassee and trump said that ends it and on that one, bush was right. >> and there was a exchange about the possibility of reforming the tax system and bringing a smaller government to the federal side in washington.

and take a listen to this exchange. >> i spend my days defending the constitution and the bill of rights. i think there is nothing more important than understanding that the constitution restrains government, not the people. >> domestically we would be operating under a system that eliminated irs. >> one of the things we must recognize is that the country is of, for and by the people and time that the government get out of the way and let the people decide how they want to run their country. >> it is not a issue that received a lot of attention. do you so the possibility of tax reform coming out of the next administration? >> i think it depend p on who the administration is. if you have the president and congress of the same party. there is a split and divide in the republican party.

three clips that you had there, carson and huckabee and rand paul, talking about a flat tax. that everybody pays whether you are middle-class or upper class and you all pay the same percentage and then that would be a major reform and some questions about fairness, because there would be a considerable tax break for people in the upper income. if you made it 15 percent. the top income pays 39.6 percent. and although people want tax reform and substantial changes in the system want the same progressive system. and actually jeb bush and donald trump are on the same side on that. they would lower tax rates but a progressive system where the more money you make, the higher rate you pay.

>> thank you, chris for joining us. >> we'll have carly fiorina on the show and we are pretty excited about that. >> that is going to be must see television. chris wallace and carly fiorina. check the local listings when fox news sunday areas in your area. >> who do you think won the debate. our live chat is up and running. go to foxnews.com/happeningnow and get your thoughts in the conversation. >> meanwhile, democratic presidential candidates are hitting the campaign trail. bernie sanders a poring in capitol hill as he continues to gain ground against hillary clinton. ed henry is live in new hampshire with more. sanders is gaining in the polls, taking aim at hillary clinton? >> interestingly, hillary clinton had to add these events to her schedule. three full days, or parts of days, campaigning here in new

hampshire, critical first in the national primary. there is six straight polls showing bernie sanders with a small lead over hillary clinton right here in new hampshire. and a new one today from wbur, it is interesting on issue after issue, bernie sanders is hitting hillary clinton on trade and other issues where she is not taking a firm position and on capitol hill and saying on criminal justice reform, he thinks she is a bit fuzzy. listen to this. >> i don't know where she is coming from. i am glad she's talking about the issue and there is conservative people talking about this issue. >> interesting as well, wbur poll asked about honest and trustworthiness. he's on the cover of time magazine. socialize this america. and surprise sanders rise and on the question of honest and

trustworthy. 78 percent that sander system honest and trustworthy and only 50 percent said hillary clinton is honest and trustworthy. >> what more can you tell us about hillary clinton mocking a rival. >> reporter: she was trying to counter the republican debate by going on with jimmy fallon and made jokes about the e-mail situation and took aim at donald trump, look at. this >> i don't know. i think it is real hair. >> you want to touch mine? >> of course. >> okay. [laughter] >> it is real, it is real. >> reporter: so we have been hearing about the new strategy of getting hillary clinton out there and make her more human and a lot of candidates try to

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settle a federal investigation on why it failed to recall faulty ignition switches. the gm financial payments exceed 1.5 billion for the ignition switch defect. it killed 120 and injured 275 more. that is according to the lawyers. >> new reaction on moscow military build up in syria russia an a loy of bashar al- assad increased the presence just as assad's regime loses ground to rebel forces. >> why is the white house talking to russia at this time? >> reporter: they want clarity from the kremlin on what they are doing sending the steady

stream of equipment and personnel in syria. just a few minutes ago, we didn't get details from josh earnest about what the discussions are going to entail between the americans and russians. u.s. and russian talks are military to military, time and place. tbd. and something that is more settled. the israelis don't like the way things look in syria benjamin netanyahu is worried about russian weapons could scooped up. netanyahu will get the story from putin in person, jon. >> what do the diplomats do next? >> secretary of state kerry is heading to the pentagon today and this is at the top of the list of things to talk about. especially since yesterday, we heard general off thein make an

announcement about our efforts in syria so far we only trained five soldiers who are still able to fight and even though the white house still have confident in austin and in that program, that comment is not playing well on the hill. >> i must say, i have been a member of the committee for 30 years and i never heard testimony like this. never. >> and we heard john kerry has been on the phone with russian counterpart. and president obama has not talked to russian president putin any time recently, jon? >> peter doocey, thank you. growing concern over the russian military prompting high- level meetings in the pentagon. what is the administration's next move? and a powerful earthquake rattles chile.

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chile. and forced million people from their homes and a 15 foot tsunami. buildings are reduced to rubble and ten people are dead. thank you for joining us. there is concern that the quake triggered tsunamis in hawaii and california. >> they are having strong currents in california. and the maximum rise was 33 centimeters and about a foot. that is less than the tidal levels. it is mainly to boats and swimmers who shouldn't get in the water. in hawaii, they cancelled the watch for hawaii because it's,

the way the earthquake developed. and there was a significant tsunami on the way which was at the time of the earthquake. and we can see the increased currents going on for often 24 hours. >> of co chile. you have a million people evacuated and remain on high ground until they are sure it is safe. when will it be safe there? >> again, 24 hours. you wouldn't want to get in to the water after that point. it is a long period because of waves do slosh back and forth. and the great tsunami in 2010 in chile, the largest wave was coming 5 or 6 hours after the earthquake had hit. and we have done modelling for

l.a., we have seen up to 24 hours. and it gets connected to tides as well. >> and there is a foreof aftershocks. they slept outside last night and didn't want houses to collapse on them. ten people are known dead. do you expect that toll to rise? >> maybe some. chile has some of the strongest buildings in the world. and their building laws say if you build a building that is damaged in the earthquake. you are liable for that even if you sell it for ten years. it makes the builder's conservative and their buildings do very, very well. >> with a quake of 8.3. we have pictures that we are showing and there are plenty of houses reduced to rubble. but what would you estimate the damage is going to be from this?

>> the us gs does something called a pager assessment that is like assessment for earthquakes and we have made an estimate that the economic losses for $100,000,001,000,000,000 and the likely fatalities are between ten and a hundred. and the reason it is not larger is the fault is offshore. and therefore, no body is right on top of it. and the strongest shaking on land is what intensity seven. boy contrast, the worst intensity in the north ridge earthquake was intensity nine in los angeles. lucy jones, thank you. >> very good, thank you. the stock market has been on a roller coaster ride as we

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>> we are just minutes away from a decision that could impact the stock market and your money. fed chairman is set to announce if the fed will raise interest rates for the first time in a decade. we'll have our columnist in. lots of speculation. some say it might go to december. >> it is slightly less likely to happen than it does. the betting is in favor of no change. it is just a close call and either outcome may not be that much of a surprise. >> if it does happen, it would be bad for people looking for mortgage and loans, and good for people who rely on cd's and interest. and the banks are going to be quick to raise the rates on

borrowers but not investors, do you agree with that? >> this is a very small change. if we get a quarter point it is at 0 and things like mortgage rates don't reprice according to the rate that the federal reserve controls. and so at this point, no big changes for most people in terms of borrowing rates and loan availability and what you will paid on your savings as well. >> and on the investment, we would not see significant increase for two years and end of 2017. >> and that is in the federal reserve uses it as a series. and will they then go in a kind of steady progression hire or wait and see.

in other words. we'll not get back to normal interest rates for sometime. >> they are saying it is not just a one and done. and we have people saying go and get your mortgage now and refanc and the rates are about to shoot up and get the car loan as well. you are saying clearly it is not any change it would be small. >> now, look. we have seen the lows for mortgage rates for this cycle and right now, they are based on 2.3 percent. and that doesn't mean we'll shoot higher from here. it is it modest steps in that direction. >> what will the impact be in terms of inflation rates and housing starts. >> the big question whether they can handle the move by the fed. and it isab interest rate

increase. and the markets have been uneasy obviously for a month or two now with the prospect of the fed moving and global growth going down like china. the fed should wait and the markets are too unsettled and the global outlook is too cloudy right now. that argument will lose steam as the new york economy improves with things like the job market going up. snshg the justice department will allow expedia to acquire orbit? >> the conclusion that the travel booking market is big enough that they will not have outsized power and even though they will have a big role in on line third party booking. hotels are consolidated and these companies are a force for price competition. they allow you to shop around and give you better deals. they thought it was not a risk

of creating a lot of pricing power on one company. >> we'll have to see and we'll wait for the fed announcement coming up in a half-hour. thank you for joining us, mike. jon? vinyl is making a come back. tlaep million sold last year in this country. that is the highest number in decades. the few remaining vinyl manufacturer ares are trying to capitalize on the trend. douglas kennedy live with that, douglas? >> more vinyl records. >> reporter: sold more than 1993 when vinyl was supposed to disappear altogether. >> it is it a solo garage punk.

>> reporter: he is a trendsetter and always on the newest gadget and hippest outfits and when it comes to listening to music. joe is old school. you prefer a vinyl to digital muc? >> a record is tafrj and i believe i can hold. >> reporter: still it is it a trend in itself. in the 50 quarter of 2015, vinyl record sales were up 50 percent and by more than 250 percent from five years ago. >> even if the vinyl is played. it was a warm feeling to it. >> reporter: a vinyl revival that puts the smile on the long- time l, fan. cd's were supposed to wipe out vinyl and digital music was supposed to totally kill it, what happened? >> the younger people are tapping in to vinyl because it

is retroand cool and tangible object. >> reporter: he owns a record shop he started in 2013 with the hope of keeping alive old vinyl favorites like a bby road. >> they are coming from new artist? >> right. that's because the record companies know that vinyl is strong. >> and a format that will keep on spinning despite the ease of digital down load. >> it has the music that the band made and time in the cover artwork and lyric sheets and you can have that with you. >> reporter: it will never be be lost in a power surge. that's from here back to you. >> i like it. >> reporter: i am waiting for cassettes to come back.

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>> big decision. fed deciding whether or not to raise interest rates. we'll have live coverage. and what did the body language say about the performance and some asked if carly she was running for v. are they saying that now? >> and widespread ground stops and if you are traveling, you have to pay attention. it could be a mess out there. >> and homicide bombings in baghdad killing 21 people. 76 other people were injured in the twin blasts. officials say they targeted

police checkpoints in the height of rush hour. isis claimed responsibility on twitter saying it would go after police and militia. and they have displaced tens of thousands. >> hi, level meetings in the pentagon. secretary of state john kerry sitting down with defense secretary carter today. there is increasing uneasiness about the russian build up in syria. they are concerned about russia setting up a base to defend the government of assad. our political leadership, michael, confesses confusion. can you provide clarity? >> you know, russians have long

supported the assad regime and that is their objective. to shore him up against the opponents he faces. but there is more to it. the russians are trying to limit american options in syria and develop leverage against us and part of a pattern of the russians reclaiming the sort of faded glory of the soviet empire. >> they have said assad is their ally. we say assad has to go. how do you come to grips with the opposing points of view? >> the real problem we said assad must go but unclear of our policy or strategy to achieve it. you look at testimony from centcomofficials making it clear to train the syrian opposition

is inadequate. and and talks with russia we'll have a weak hand. couple of candidates talked about the issue and play those clips and get your reaction on the other side. >> first of all i have an understanding what russia and putin are doing. he's trying to replace us as the systeming most important power. >> having met putin. i wouldn't talk to him at all. we talked too much. i would begin rebuilding the sixth need and conduct aggressive military exercises in the baltic states and vladimar putin would get the message. >> first of all on marco rubio's point, that putin is trying to subplant the united states. is he?

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to be lengthening one of the airports. on the face of it, it doesn't sound like that much equipment and maybe not many personnel. but how dow see it first of all and could it be a tip of a bigger sphere to come. >> it is hard to say. tactically speaking what they are up to there. when you see tanks and antiaircraft in the country and more offensive weaponry coming. and put in place for the russians. what they plan to do is unclear. the presence of that capability is limiting the united states of israel and united states and others in the country. >> good tozp?uñ have you on. >>=ug president obama welcoming white house.

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we're awaiting a federal reserve decision on whether to raise interest rates for the first time in ten years. wall street will be watching the announcement closely. joining us liz. less than ten minutes away. what message is the market sending? >> we have to be specific. less than eight minutes to go before we hear what the feds apply on interest rates which have been for years as zero to just a quarter of a percent due to the financial crisis. the market message that's being set, the dow is up about 39 points. a little bit of buying many the past couple of minutes, not too much. everyone is just waiting to see whether the federal reserve will either hold its fire or pull the trigger on a small rate hike. what would happen after that is only up to janet yellen. it's what she says in the press conference at 2:30 p.m. where

everyone will be right there asking her the tough questions about why she feels the economy can sustain or cannot sustain a small interest rate hike depending on what happens in seven minutes. >> if you've got 401(k)s or college funds and the market starts gyrating in the wake of this decision. what are people supposed to do? >> not what the traders will do. they will be running around actively trading, buying and selling for clients. this is a short term gyration, if there is one. even if there's a spike or a big drop, you've got to be in for the long term. that's what the experts say with the 401(k). i personally have a couple of 529s for my kids. i'm going to turn my back and not look at anything. wait until the powder dries.

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decision about to be announced. thank you for joining us. >> let's send it over to neil cavuto. >> market has flattened out the yield curve. the fed has concert eed maturit mix so you're not going to see amajor impact. >> the dow is getting weaker.÷m >> this means something to janet. larry almost became the fed chairman. least well respected in economic circles. >> the ims, the world bank. >> when larry summers says it. >> you almost want to go the

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