also catch my show at 11:30 eastern right here on fnc. welcome to our kelly nile. i'm megan kelly. we have live pick dhurs from south carolina where most showed up to the field for heritage action forum. most of the field that is, except donald trump. he cancel edled earlier today.

if you have not seen it here's what happened when mr. trump opened the floor to questions in rochester, new hampshire. >> we have a problem in this country. it's called muslim. we know our current president is one. you know he's not even an american. but, anyway we have training camps growing where they want to kill us. that's my question. when can we get rid of them? >> we're going to be looking at a lot of different things. a lot of people are saying that. a lot of people are saying that bad thingings are happening out there. we're going to be looking at that and plenty of other things. >> the campaign started taking incoming almost immediately. the trump camp put out this statement. the bigger issue is that obama is waging a war against christians in this country.

that satisfied no one. >> he knew or he should have known that what that man was asking was not only way out of bounds, it was untrue. if that person had been in my event, i would have called him out on it. i would have said that has no place in a political setting. >> mr. trump isn't the first politician to do this in order to win votes. in fact that's precisely what every republy dan presidential candidate is doing when they decline to denounce mr. trump's cynical strategy. >> we have a powerful line-up tonight.

andy, thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> so what officially is the defense being offered by the on this? as far as what donald thinks we know that president obama went to reverend wright's church. we remember reverend wright saying god damn america. that's in the bible. i think more than anything there's just confusion on our end as to why one tiny question is sort of big media controversy right now. >> it's because the guy -- a couple reasons. number one, he seem today be condemning muslims as a group, as opposed to radical muslims! the questioner was, not don trump. >> right. right. exactly. correct. >> and then number two, he said

barack obama is a muslim and he's not a citizen of this country. and donald trump did not correct him. >> well, that's not correct. we know that barack obama is a citizen of this country, one of the reasons we have definitive proof is because he got his long form birth certificate. >> why didn't he say that? >> so he should push for that. and that question has been resolved. period. let's move on. >> megan, he could have said that but by that exact same logic, why didn't barack obama stand up and say hey, jeremiah not america -- >> no,it's the exact same thing. >> barack obama is not running for office. donald trump is.

>> sorry, he wasn't running for office in 2007 and 2003? >> see, he won the office. and he's now the sitting president. so tha that ship has sailed. >> okay, but it's a parallel argument. megan, i'm sorry. this is a rough night, i guess. >> that's a deflection. you seem to be dodging. are you unconsiderateblemfortable on this issue? >> okay. i will. why didn't he look at him and say he is not a muslim. he is an american citizen. i'm the man who made him produce husband birth certificate. >> i think that could have been an answer. i'm not a genius. i can't figure that out. >> that east okay. that's a reasonable response. we got to it eventually. >> it's a parallel argument,

actually. when you rewatch this, you'll see that. >> i'll look forward to doing just that later. joining me now, host of fox news media buzz. hi, guys. so it all relates somehow back to obama in jeremiah wright's church, chris. that's what this story is really about? >> >>. >> i will say this the long arc includes the 2008 campaign. and it definitely includes there was a candidate. her name was hillary, rodham clinton. >> we're going to get to that. but the point is -- we're going to get to that in a american. what we are focusing on here is a legitimate area of inquiry. >> the way that it was framed by the white house and by hillary clinton is not.

because they would not be satisfied unless donald trump got up and said barack obama is all rolled into one in the greatest christian since thomas aquianis and all of this stuff and wept allowed that he was question. >> you, sir, are inappropriate. >> right. but from a point ofitical practicality what he should have been able to do is quickly said buzz. do a trumpian response to that guy. >> he is on record for years now having raised some of these same questions himself.

>> maybe he says it's a muslim. maybe he doesn't want that or he may not have onement but i will tell you this if he wasn't born in this country, it's one of the great scams of all time. he's been pressed about it several times during this presidential run. >> recently. >> recently. and he basically has said -- and answer the question one time he said he produced the birth certificate, mr. trump. >> well, if you believe that. but i'm not going to get into that right now. it's position it's a forgery. >> having said all of that the hi pock ra sill from -- hillary clinton went out there today. you would have thought he was

insulting her granddaughter. totally and factually untrue. it is prejudiced. it is discriminatory. listen to what happened when steve kroft asked her about this issue back in 2008. >> you don't believe that senator obama's a muslim. >> of course not. there is no basis for that. you know i take him on the basis of what he says. and there isn't any reason to doubt that. >> the new york times called that one of the sleaziest moments in the campaign. >> it's uncomfortable to watch, etch now. a lot of the pundits that don't like domd trump are piling on. when i watched this moment, i

was astonded. he didn't do what he usually does afterwards which is sail right into the media hurl cable, try to deflect or defend what he did. instead,trump put out a statement blaming the media. and that usually works for him because it's not too popular with a lot of americans. not in this case because people have seen that clip over and over and over again and they can decide for themselves how donald trump should have handled that guy. >> and he bailed out of this event tonight, krieted some business reason that has not yet been produced publicly. and now we wond wond ere why he didn't attend one of the important e haven'ts of campaign 2016. >> i think for the first time in the campaign you're seeing a donald trump who is off blanks. he doesn't want to reopen the past berther controversy.

it's almost like she's accusing him of taking an unscheduled vacation. i've got to go. >> also joining me tonight, on the other big news that came out of south carolina. those two are next. and a 14-year-old muslim student is arrested after bringing to school a mysterious e lek fronic device that they said looked a lot like a bomb. now, some on the left are blaming profiling and tripe trying to make him into a national hero. and then we have a killy file investigation into the group that staged what was supposed to be a big charity event for vets except this group is no longer a

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these are serious challenges at a time when the world has gone nuts. as i said the other night, there is a lunatic in north korea with dozens of nuclear weapons. the chinese are taking over the south china sea. the russians are trying to involve nato. iran is also going to acquire a nuclear weapon. >> thafgs marco rubio sharing part of his speech to the heritage action forum.

senator, great to see you tonight. let me just ask you since you haven't spoke here on fox since the debate. what did you think of it? >> one more stop in the process. we didn't talk about the national debt. we didn't talk much about the economy. and we had a three hour debate and those issues weren't touched upon. i was disappointed by that. these are important issues. for people trying to make up their minds, they want to know what your ideas are about impacting your lives. >> speaking of the issues let's talk about the foreign policy. we've seen in so many polls in this election cycle, they want an outsider. two-thirds plus of the republican voters are saying we want somebody on the outside of.

you had a nice retorte to that arguemented. >> i thrill the deeper arguemented is not simply what job the people have. republicans and americans don't want to keep electing the same kind of people. that's the reason i ran for the senate in 2010. i was a private citizen. the entire republican party was against me. and it's the reason why i'm running for president. i know that we're not going to be able to change the direction of this country unless we have someone in that office that's in touch with what's happening with people's lives and closes this enormous disconnect between washington and both parties and the lives of our people. and then when it comes to national skoourt, look that's the most important obligation of the federal government. it's the one thing the federal government can do is keep us safe from foreign threats. and, frapgly, under this president, is not doing a very good job of it. >> you see, you know there was some very cogent, substantive arguments. donald trump says i may not be an expert on foreign policy, but

i will apoint the best people. i have the best people advising me. why couldn't that work just as well as somebody like you who's been steeped in foreign policy for the past five or six years plus. >> well again, that's the thing carli demonstrated. if you take the time you can learn a lot about these issues. you theed to be prepared the very first day in office. to make judgment decisions bagsed on facts around currencies that ewe do not control. often times, they're unexpected. and so my point, the other night was whoever we elect, and i hope it will be me obviously, better be someone who's prepared to deal with national security on their very first day in office. >> i have to ask you about donald trump today whofgs in the news because he did not correct someone who questioned him at a town hall when that person suggested that president obama is a muslim and that we have a problem with muslims in this country.

do you believe that donald trump should have pushed back for that person and should have stood up for the president? >> i do. ipd have before i have before, in the past, myself. and second of all, that's not true. the president has made very clear what his faith is. christianity if someone says that they're a christian and that's what they are, we accept that. my problems of the president are not perm. my problems with the president are his policy decisions. they're dangerous for america on national skoourlt. and they're bad for the economy and the individual lives of our people. >> last but not least, the news today is that allegedly, your deputy campaign manager rich beesa was accused of assaulting rand paul's national political director, john jo. he said he was punched in the fact. the video kind of shows a shove. here it is. what's the story here?

>> well i don't know a lot about it. i know in life, there's twro sides to every story. it sounds like a dispute between two grown men. we'll see where it plays out. we're focused on our campaign and where it matters to our voters. >> there's a competition for toughness in the field. in any event, we appreciate you being here senator rubio chl all the best to you. >> senator rubio was just one of the candidates on is that stage tonight. up next, you will hear from some of the others. along with what he thinks is the big story coming from this event. plus wait until you hear the new shots against fiorina. also we have new fall out tonight in the story of the 14-year-old who somehow scored an invite to the white house after his homemade clock was mistaken for a bomb.

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breaking tonights you just heard from senator marco rrubio. most of the gop field took the stage one after the other to be the with the exception of donald trump. each of the kand tats trying to build obama wednesday's debate and score points with a key group of conservative voters. here's just a little of what we heard. >> i was a disrupter in tallahassee. we need a line-item veto power. i vetoed 2500 separate line items in the budget. >> the only way to do it is we've got to take it on and

bring power out of washington and back to the people. >> e don't buy this nonsense about all the senate rules. the democratings don't play by those rules. it's time we sent the president a bill that defunded planned parenthood with 51 votes in the united states senate. >> the worst part is that the majority of americans disagree with the tearing up of babyings and the destroying of human life. why should their taxpayer money be used to fund that kind of activity. what happened to america? >> what a difference saying what they want to say and the way they want as opposed to a debate stage where they're being pitted

against one another with a goal of making them fight. >> exactly. that's sort of roman gladtorial yal stuff. every question was set up as a fight between two republicans. and i do think this is a better way to get at what these candidates are. it does allow them to say what they have to say without having to get personal and without having to do at home. and the other interesting part is when you set a debate up as one remust bely can against another, you rarely here about what the main argument in the election ought to be about. the two parties arguing their plit political philosophies. the republicans have now spent the summer when they've allowed the democrats to get away with

sort of being shunned on almost. not mentioned as much as you would lieg in the run-up to a general election campaign. >> even in the wake of a debate now, what we heard over the past day has been some of the candidates x too, trying to it sounds like you tell me, diminish what many believe was a win for truch. >> we knew the that arty no mat matter ma was going to happen. >> well, i don't totally disagree. i think they wanted to have some kind of a narrative. they fed her soft balls. you know, i don't get that whole situation.

some of the things that she was asked were ridiculous. >> well, sore loser. there r were no easy questions here. we had one instance where donald trump was challenged and carlie did it. it seems to me did it in a very concise and cutting way. and i could understand why trump would be upset about that. it wasn't because he was fed easy questions. in fact i feel the other great moment she had was when he referenced another candidate, she spoke about iran and planned parenthood. sort of an odd pair of topics. in a single riff, which was riveting. and that was her other moment. that was a positive moment. it was not about attacking on the republicans.

so she clearly was a winner. the idea that she was set up everybody was ready to declare the winner is nonsense. you watch the debate. it was clear. >> i would add that rubio, as i said on the night right after the debate he was a close second. >> what did you make of rubio just now. mike huckabee said he would handle it differently. he didn't explis sitly rip on trump. is this going to be an on going thing? and how much damage if any, did trump do himself there? i'm not sure he did himself a lot of damage. what he said about mexican americans and what he said about john mccain. there's always the afterstory. there's always explaining what

he really meant or what he said he meant. so he's always cleaning um after himself. in fact, his numbers have gone up. i'm not sure how long that persists. the two dangers for him are the one where he gets very exciteling, very boring. after a bile you have to come up with some programs. the other dangerer is he imbloed. there's a cumulative effect here where you say do you want to dock a guy in the general election campaign who's collecting himself every three days.

we also have a kelly file investigation tonight that staged a big, so-called charity e trent the -- >> so what happened to the million bucks now weighing in over the grow debate arrested for showing up to school with a home meat alarm clock that some mistook to with bm. squl >> i built t to show my teacher. sew television really sad that she took the wrong img prus of it and i got are relater. the next horizon. everyone loves the chase.

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cultural hero. a 14 year boy who got handcuffed at school. ever since, some have argued that the school went too far and the police did, as well. others argue that authorities were just acting out of caution. whatever the case is muhammad has now scored an invite to the white house and trace gal ag erer and bragt it to school to show his engineering teacher. the teacher said it was nice but told him not to show it to others. during english class, the clock beeped and the administrators notified police. >> under texas law, if he possesses a device that is intended to cause anyone to be

alarmed or a reaction of any time by law enforcement officers. >> i tried to call my parents, but they were like you're in the middle of an interrogation right now and you can't call them. >> now, the school and irving police are being villainized for overreacting. achmed is being praised for inc. ingenuity and for having the skill and the ambition to build something cool. >> the white house even suggested that achmed was the subject of prej digs. prejudice. listen. >> this episode is a good illustration of how stereotypes can prevent even good hearted people who dedicated their lives to educating young people to doing the good work that they set it to do. >> hillary clinton also indicated a role here.

new jersey governor chris christie thinks the school did overreact, but that we live in extraordinarily dangerous times and people are concerned. groups are fighting to get his us pence reforced. he had his suspension upheld. >> trace, thank you. joining us now, mark furmman and richard fouler. i mean you've got to feel bad for the kid and you've got to feel bad for the school. this is what we want from want to make america great. sadly, because of over-policing,

because of fear because of stereotype, because of xeniphobia he is now a victim for being really smart. and that is really rare. >> at the end, you take it to a far out place. mark you've got to feel bad for the kid. the kid not do anything wrong. but did the cops do anything wrong? did the school do anything wrong? to a person everybody that i talked to said the thing looked like a bomb. it looked like a bomb. >> well certainly, megyn, there's not very many people except for the bomb squad, that knows what an explosive time device looked like. you're talking about police officers that are put in the position that they have to do something. now, i don't feel sorry for achmed. he offered no explanation to the police. he wouldn't cooperate. he was passive aggressive -- >> passive aggressive? >> by all news reports.

you have to talk to the police if you want them to understand what's going on. if you do not explain something completely, they have no kwhois but they have to take the device, they have to make notifications and they have teturn the child to his parents and tell him what the situation is. we have been told by authorities, if you see something, say something. you never know when they're going to pop up. if you see something, say something. so why don't these authorities

get the benefit of the doubt in a situation that obviously wound up terribly. but why don't they get some benefit of the doubt? >> well there's a couple reasons for that, megyn. let's be real for a second. the schoolhouse should be a safe and welcoming environment for students. not places where 7th graders and 8th graders get handcuffed. >> that teacher should have took him to the principal's office. >> the part of the people that

has this so out raged is because of pop tart kid. he chewed a pop tart to look like a gun. but this kid has something that objectively, looks a little like a bomb. but because he gets in trouble, it's racism and he goes to the white house. >> well what is the race of the pop tart child? i believe he's male white. he has absolutely no right if there's any profiling. >> there's the device. >> what are we going to do here. and i also feel like -- the only reason while i feel like i'm being set up. >> it's mark's turn. go ahead, mark. >> i feel like there's a set-up going on here. this kid isn't stupid. so when the police are there, he could have easily explained. he says call my parents. they know i've been building this. i've been building it for a long time. but he didn't. and the police had no choice. >> the point is that he asked to speak with his parents. >> he did. and they said no.

>> in the school's defense, they do say that the immediate ya -- they say that they have no facts. no one is listening to me. the district is substantial doubting behind his teacher and says that the way the teen's experience has been described in the media is unbalanced. great to see you both. thank you for being here. >> good to see you, megyn. >> it's that time in the show where no one's listening. also tonight, new challenges for hillary clinton. and, up next the kelly file investigation into the charity group that staged a big event for vets earlier this week.

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well, there's new fallout tonight from a charity event getting national attention. a veteran's group sold tickets for a donald trump speech on a battleship. now, media outlets discovered that the group lost is charitable status months ago. trace? >> reporter: megyn, trump delivered his speech to vsa which claims to have more than a half million supporters. tickets ran between a hundred and a thousand dollars each. the money will go to help veteransment but that's difficult to confirm pause the group lost its tax exempt status

for failing to file tax returns for three years. vsa is appealing that decision but those tax documents are supposed to be public so that we can find out where the money is going. and, for now, vsa is note giving them up. there is also some question about the legality of the trump speech abord the u.s.s. iowa. trump has given candidates more than $2700, the event itself cost more than 10,000 tlars. joel aaron said his group is being attacked for endorsing donald trump. this is wlaps when a group of conservative veterans takes a stand on an issue. we are proud to make that endorsement. the trump camp is not exactly returning the love. mr. trump was asked to speak as a guest at the veteran's for a stronger america event. and, as an article debit supporter to veterans causes, he agreed to attend. mr. trump and the campaign had no nojs of any issues associated

with the group or their chairman, joel aarons. trurp also claims to haveot taken a single penny from that event. >> so i mean, if this group is not legitimate and they're hosting some sort of a fundraiser to the tune of a thousand bucks a ticket there's a problem. >> there is a problem. i mean i've been involved with veteran's nonprofits for a better part of nine years of my career. there's a lot of regulations that go with run ingning a 501 (c)4. these are advocacy organizations on issues, not just endorsing. if you -- you can, but if it's the primary thing of what you're doing, you're going to run into issues. this is a marriage of convenience.

this group needed readvance. donald trump needed a vet's group. and so this was a marriage of veengs. and, i think at this point, the trump campaign probably regrets that. >> as far as truchl is concerned, this is you know i'm sure he did not know anything abthe tax filing issues of this group. i mean one of the things people love about him and one of the things that has been difficult for him is he doesn't have the full campaign apparatus around him. which leaves him exposed at times, like here. so it's not his fault. but is this guy legitimate? do you know this guy? >> i do know him. i worked with him with vets for freedom years ago. permly, i have no issues with him. but a quick google search would have shown and prevented that and laid that out there and showed that -- as far as

members, listen i run a membership organization. it's hard to build a real grass roots advocacy group. just like it's hard to form a v.a. that, you can find groups out there fighting for reform. 75 paid. we're out there kicking and poking and jabbing. >> he says he's got hundreds of thousands of supporters and he's legit. >> you can claim that because of e-mail lists or whatever. 50,000 on facebook. that fine groups like ours have far more. members are real people who do work for you. >> if these people donated, cnn was reporting it could been up to seven figures. if they donated to charity that is not a charity, what's going to happen to the money? >> well it's going to sit. it's going to sit there in a holding pattern right now. if they're able to get their stat again, that money can be used. it's not immediately going down a rat hole. the question would be -- the

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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's the kelly file. with megyn kelly. >> look at that. came in from my office out there. such a long journey. back in 2008, hillary clinton won new hampshire in the democratic primary. the crowds loved her. this time around huh. ed henry is in new hampshire with the story. >> as hillary clinton's poll numbers continue to sink here in new hampshire, the lights going out in a town hall meeting was not the best image.

electricity was restored before clinton walked in though other kinds of nrnl and enthusiasm seemeded to be in short supply as these photos reveal which is why clinton today went out of the the way to highlight the fact there were no empty seats. what she did not mention is it was a relatively small room. the local fire chief said there were about 350 people. meanwhile, her chief rival is coming to the same campus in new hampshire on sunday and today, his staff told fox there were already 1,300 rsvps. in new york at a reception for small campaign donor, sanders drew more than 1,000 supporters and said he's catching fire. >> our campaign is doing well. doing a lot better than people

anticipated. we are talking about the issues. >> sanders is always rising because clinton has been pinned down over the e-mail controversy. judicial watched has obtained a document asking james comby to give the department copies that may have been deleted, but are now being recovered by the fbi. ed henry, fox news. we'll be right back. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn because you can't beat zero heartburn! ahhh the sweet taste of victory! prilosec otc. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. i have type 2 diabetes. i started with pills. and now i take a long-acting insulin at night. i take mine in the morning. i was trying to eat right, stay active.

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