foxnews.com/outnumbered. see you tomorrow at noon eastern. go to overtime now. for now "happening now." fiorina. >> women are unbeatable and underestimated. >> we go behind the scenes with the republican candidate. >> and cops make an arrest in the shootings that terrorized phoenix. >> i am the wrong guy.

>> i haven't had access to a weapon. >> and booby trapped field injuries a man walking near his home. so why did his neighbor set up a minefield? it is all "happening now". we begin the second hour with the rise of carly fiorina. she's a leading candidate in the republican race for the white house. welcome to "happening now". i am jon scott. >> i am jenna lee. carly fiorina surged in second place. 24 percent of the polls want donald trump to get the nomination. carly fiorina in second place over taking dr. ben carson. but it involves more than polling numbers and sound bites. and our very own job roberts is

on the campaign trail on how she got her. >> reporter: i spent quality time with her in places that are off of the grid for journalist. hope you enjoy. she went three percent to 15 percent. and becoming an everynight sensation. i spent time with her in south carolina and a republican conference on macinew island. and one stop she went into in horns gaslight grill, the fire marshall had to stop more people from coming in. it was so crowded. and one of the big moments is what she said about planned parenthood. and we walked the streets, she said that was spontaneous response. >> i wasn't delivering a line. i hadn't prepared that line and

didn't know the question was coming and i was just speaking from the heart. i feel so strongly about that and it is about the character of our nation and i think most people who have the courage to watch with those tapes know that instinctively as well. it is nothing to do with pro-life or pro-choice and nothing to do with women's health. >> reporter: she's not a woman running for politics but happens to be and fiercely avoids getting involved in gender politics. and she admitted that women do appreciate the fact that she is doing so well in the race. >> woman of all ages, they are proud when i woman steps up and contributes. i also think the essential qualities of leadership are gender neutral. i really do. i think there are

certain things about leadership that are the same if you are a man or a woman and a leader has to be authentic and have the right balance between humility and self confidence. and a leader has to have a vision for where they are going. >> reporter: those are all qualities she said she lives herself. fiorina took criticism for not smiling at all in the entire three hours and i had dinner with her and her traveling crew. she smiles and jokes around. and she treats serious issues seriously and was emotional talking about a poem that laurie her step daughter wrote to her before laurie died. >> it said that basically. i don't tell you enough i love

you. and that's the thing you know. i mean, when you lose someone, you realize you never say that to the people you love. >> reporter: we'll get a chance to see more of carly fiorina's personality today. and appearing with jimmy fallen on the tonight show. and she will talk about foreign policy and spend two days campaigning around south carolina. that is an important state in the primaries. she's running second in the polls, that she will have a target on her back particularly in the time of hewlett packard and lucent. citizen carly a new documentary will be released tomorrow and rebutting charges of what happened in hewlett packard who voted to fire her and now sayses

that was all a big mistake. jon, thank you. >> we'll bring in our political panel for today. the managing director of purple insight. and kristin, co-founder of echlon insight and selfie vote where millennials are leading american. and both are co-host of the weekly podcast the pollsters. welcome to both of you. kristin, what are voters looking for this time around and how, you know, if at all, does she fill that role. carly fiorina. >> voters are looking for someone who sounds different and not a perfectly practiced talking points and coming out of washington d.c. for the last few years and someone like carly fiorina has crept up to the top of the polls because of strong debate performance and balances

being an outsider and being someone who can give credible answers on things like foreign policy and could both receive establishment support and appealing to folks that sounds different. >> how do you see her? >> republicans in particular are looking for someone who is an outsider and she fits that bill and i think she turned in a fantastic performance at the debate. and the next step is it sufficient and building out from a strong debate performance and add her policy positions and empathy to the voters and campaign strategy, that is where the voters are looking for her to go next. >> we asked the viewers what they think about the possibility of voting for carly fiorina. we have a couple of responses that we polled at random. >> we should have a woman president and carly would be

better than another clinton. and also, fiorina has the complete skill set for being an effective president and understands global leadership. and she is well versed in national security and expressed specific strategies for this issue. kristin, the political class as you describe. it politicians that are holding office forever. that is said to be the strength of the gop field. so many of those who are running have held political office. and dow think that voters are ready to make that break and go with someone not tested before in elected office? >> the polls have been silly up and down in part because folks are emotional and like someone who sounds different. but as we go in to the fall, you will see the emotional side of

things would want to see plans and answers on foreign policy for the economy. and once we get to that phase, you may see the established candidates trying to shine. that's what is so interesting about the fiorina candidacy, she had great responses to give and strong favorables. a lot of the established candidates are well known, but they have a quarter of republican voters who don't like them. and carly fiorina at the moment does not have a strong anti- carly constitency and her rise in the polls, we'll see how it changes as people attack her. and that has begun this week and she comes in with strong favorables. >> margie, you are the democratic pollster and some republicans say carly fiorina would be hillary clinton's worst

nightmare as an opponent. >> it would be fantastic to see two women candidates. my daughters have a lot of democratic friends and they grave stated to carly because she was the only woman on the stand. there is more to reaching woman voters than just being a woman. that is true for republicans and democrats and some of the positions that fiorina has, they are not in alignment with where women are. maternity leave and funding for planned parent hood. she's not on the same page of where majority of the women voters are looking in the overall electorate. >> we'll continue to ask our viewers to weigh in and margie and kristin. >> and we heard from jon, we read your comments all of the

time. and with carly rising in the polls, would you answer voting for her as president. go to foxnews.com/happeningnow and we'll talk about that in the show. a neighborhood shaken boy a massive explosion and one home destroyed and the latest on what is happening here. wrapping up a historic visit to cuba. what is the pope doing the last day on the island before heading to the united states? can the cle

s >> there is new information on the u.s. trade embargo against cuba. the u.s. is considering from abstaining on the resolution to lift the embargo. why? congress refuses to repeal the embargo. and abstaining from the vote would be unprecedented and the administration is siding with

the world body against the u.s. congress. >> and pope heading to the united states tomorrow for historic visit. this happeneds are gathering in the, resolution plaza. > reporter: the pope drew massive crowds once again in an outdoor mass. and they are coming to show enthusiasm not only for the first latin america pope but popular because he is one of the motivated behind the recent opening up of diplomatic relations between the u.s. and cuba. drawing huge crowds. he met with fidel castro in his home. fidel's wife and children and

grandchildren were present and they exchanged gifts. it was warm. it is actually months when we have seen a picture. he was not standing in the photos, bah he appeared to have animated conversation. one meeting will not be a public meeting between the pope and disiddents and disiddents have tried to reach the pope mobile and they have been rebuffed by security agents. no scheduled meeting between the pope and anyone who opposes the regime so far. >> the vatican invited pilgrims to attend mass in his visit to the united states. >> i look forward to greeting the pilgrims and people of

philadelphia when i come to meet the families, i will be there because, you will be there. see you in philadelphia. >> well, the pope heads to philly after stops in washington and washington d.c. the secret service said the venue for two biggest events will only fit 250,000. >> that is a big crowd. >> and one suspect in custufteddy. did they get the right guy? these are questions asked today. a judge makes a decision in the case of two girls accused of trying to kill a classmate in the slender man case.

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the >> a fox news explosion about a massive explosion in a dallas neighborhood. nine others were damaged in the blachlt two people were air lifted and one person treated in the scene. the cause under investigation. >> right now a judge delaying the trial of 213-year-olds accused of trying to kill a classmate. we have covered the case. and the w girls are charged as adults. the case is on on hold as the appeals court decides whether it will be handled in juvenile court. dan, explain what is going on

here? it seems like it was on track to go to trial in october. >> right. two girls were on trial for stabbing another girl. the defendants are now appealing and they want to move it to juvenile court and that means they would go in front of a jouf nile judge and at most sentenced to 18 years old. and no jurisdiction of the court system. if they say in the adult system they could get 65 years in prison. tremendous change. >> one judge rule it was an adult case. what is it likely to get a different ruling. >> it is automatic in wisconsin you will be tried in adult court and only reverted if successful. will an appeal's court say i think we should? it is it a possibility.

here's what bothers me about the case. the problem is not guilt or innocence. they are clearly guilty, fact bes are there but should they be legally responsible based on the young age and or the fact that they have mental issues going on here. >> one doctor who had a form of skis 47ia. and dan, what do you think is the appropriate way. >> i think it should be adult court. it is unusual to have them in adult court and they lured another girl in the woods to appease the fictional character slender man and she crawled out almost dead and a by p stander saved her. it is a planned out and thought out crime and that is

inconsistent. an insanity defense they don't know what they are doing. but they knew what they were doing. >> but they were so young. they are 12. and what do you think is the stronger argument for the defense. one they are insane or they were hypnotized by a strange fictional character has produced sort of a weird following? >> i think it is both. they have a 1, 2 punch available to them. at 13, i was roller blading and department have a care in the world. are kids that young impressed by fictional characters. if they were 23, we wouldn't have the argument. but they are children. >> let me ask you about the punishment. if they stay in the juvenile system they are only held until age 18.

and that for a first-degree murder charge seems not the fair ruling. >> juvenile court is designed to give treatment to juveniles. and you throw a 13 year old in the adult system and they are in the system for the rest of their lives. >> the other argument if they stay in the juvenile system and one of them have mental illness, she would not get the same treatment. >> they are not mentally well adjusted because they wouldn't do this. but it is it a public safety threat they pose. two girls try to plan out a murder and fortunately was an attempted murder and not murder and if they are out and free at age 18, where does it leave society around them? that is the reason to prosecute them in adult court? >> is this something they will have to take the stand for?

whether in juvenile or adult court. >> i spent a lot of time practicing in juvenile court. >> are they remorseful? and do they get it now and not a year ago? how did it come to pass to begin with? it is not on guilt or innocence but remorse. >> they can say they are remorseful. but they calculated and planned it. >> thank you very much. and that is democratic race about senator hillary clinton and bernie sanders. and tide of humanity is flooding in countries. how should they handle the growing refugee crisis and what about the united states?

>> hillary clinton on the campaign trail in the deep south in baton rouge, louisiana, trying to fire up the base and a brand new poll shows mrs. clinton pulling ahead of senator bern sanders and building a 20 point lead now and a substantial jump from earlier in the month. and ed henry is live in dc with

more. >> you are right. and you can see from the cnn poll that hillary clinton opened up a wider national lead. bernie sanders in second place. what she's struggling to do is get role energy. sanders at 24 percent and joe biden 22 percent and hillary clinton. and she came down from where she was. in terms of energy and grassroots support. both clinton and sanders in a democratic party convention and rallies and events outside of that. and hillary clinton on friday had 350 people according to the fire chief. and bernie sanders was on the same campus. it is apples to apples and a rally of throw thousand people and he's talking about starting a revolution.

>> if we win here in new hampshire and i think we have a good chance to do that. [applause] if we win here in iowa, and i think we have a good chance to win in iowa. that opens the door to a path toward victory. i think we can do it. we cannot do it unless millions of people become involved in the campaign. >> vice-president joe biden two points behind bernie sanders despite not in the race officially. over the weekend, the wall street journal shows it may be that he will be in. he's just simply not there in terms of bringing his family

along to deal with the emotional toll of the campaign after the death of his son bo. >> officials are warning against the refugee entering illegally and saying they could be imprisonned. there is an increase in number of refugees for u.s. to bring up to 85000 next year. there is so much work in europe and the middle east. why do you think that this refugee crisis is having this affect now, so many years in the syria conflict? >> a great question. two comparisons to demonstrate that it is not a usual migration crisis. compared with the palestinian refugees half century ago. they settled in lebanon and

syrian camps and they didn't do the marches. and get the example of the others settling in lebanon and jordan. why only one group are seltzing on the the turbish. why are they moving in europe? >> it seems that according to observers and monitors tis not the border issue in hungary. it is what is happening in the syria and greek border. why are they allowing them to move. turks will tell you we waited three years and the international committee did not come here. and now they are talking about it once it hit european borders. >> benjamin is in greece looking at migrants coming to greece. walid. i want to ask you a question. look at these boats and you can

see they are filled with young to middle aged men and so many of us whose families came to the united states. men did come first. my grandfather came to the united states. to just get things set up and those are arguing this is what is happens. look at them. they are military age males from a region of the world that is steeped in conflict. is it different or is something different happening here? >> compare immigration they are two different things. the waves from irland and italy and lebanon to the united states, they did not come in boats like that and they came families and including those who died. and so it is different. but what is common is the human

tragedy. you can see the similarities. >> we do. and the photo of the young three-year-old dead on the shores, you will never erase that image. and the people who are desperate to figure out how to get your families out of the war- torn. are you skeptical about those going to europe? >> the overwhelming majority is just people. they are seeking jobs and a better society and they look at facebook and youtube and they know immigrants from the same ethnicity are living a better life. they would have preferred to live in a leppo but that was not the case. the syrian crisis is lasting four years. it is the core of the problem. it is it a problem inside of

syria. >> what is the quota that europe is trying to figure out or double down in syria and clean up syria and so the good people can live in their home country? >> those who have migrated are under the a spice of the international community. and you have to bring the european union and unite the nation to settle those issue of them in europe. you are talking about tens of millions other refugees and the united states should demonstrate leadership. in the borders of syria and turkey. >> and this is what the prime minister of hungary said. the migrants are laying siege to the border of his country and putting europe in danger. and that will happen to the united states if we take in more. what would you say to the viewers who say, i am nervous

about that. >> you can be nervous about the security factor, of course, but the humanitarian factor exists all over the world. i would be focusing the problem on the border of turkey and syria and northern syria and whatever is left handle it with international policy. >> appreciate your thoughts as always. thank you so much. >> right now, pope francis is heading toward america and inspiring a new generation of believers and right now in cuba and will be traveling soon to the u.s. the pontiff known for reaching out to those who feel the catholic church alienated them. and warren green is live in our newsroom. >> the throngs are expected to greet pope francis here in the u.s. and a possible sign of the francis affect.

>> many people have felt for the last hundred or 200 years, the catholic church had a sign members only. under francis there is a new sign that said come on in, open for business. >> but the francis affect means going back to vatican two, the historic meeting when bishops grappled with how to make catholicism more approachable. would you have married laymen talking to fox news, probably not. >> those popes attended and jorge was not an ordained priest. now they can express the intentions of the vatican two. >> but some worry will francis move it away from francis will not change the

teaching on same- sex marriage or abortion, but what he's going to say, someone has an abortion, do we alienate that person or reach out to that person? >> he's made changes and it may take 50 years to see if the francis affects lasting change. >> and a homeowner booby trapped his own property. >> and drivers targeted by gunfire after police arrest a prime suspect. >> all i have to say, is that i am the wrong guy. i tried to tell the detective that. my gun has been in the pawnshop two months and i haven't had access to a woman. -- weapon.

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the united states and how you can see. and heroes after a shooting inside of a church and what they did to potentially stop a horrific event from happening. >> and chris, who is up and down? you will hear it first in the top of the hour. >> a man is recovering now after setting off an explosive. police and bomb squad in detroit on sunday and six explosive devices were found. and police said a homeowner set up a homemade mine field to protect the marijuana growing. >> it was configured to trigger an explosion. imagine a child going cross the field and what injuries they

might sustain. >> the victim had multiple wounds to his legs. police are looking into charges against the homeowner. >> police make an arrest in a arizona highway. and in the meantime wesly merit junior is in jail and suspected in four of the shootings. he told the judge that he is the wrong giechlt -- guy. >> police feel they have one of the shooters in custody. the fire arm that meritoused matches one he tried to get rid of in a pawnshop. >> we know he is related to the first four shootings. he is forensically linked to that weapon. >> so how did they do that? cops took the slugs from the

vehicles and went to pawnshops looking for the weapon and manufacturer. and they took it in and matched the bullets to the gun he pawned for money. he claims he's innocent. >> all i have to say is that i am the wrong guy. my gun has been in the pawnshop for the last two months and i haven't had access to the weapon. >> during the initial interview he revealed he was in possession of the fire arm since he purchased it, too. and the police insist it was not in pawn status. >> he's not like. that leslie has a big heart and he would not do. this especially will when he works hard to support two kids.

>> who ever said he is a shooter is a [bleep] moron. have a good night. >> he is held on bond as police search for 1 or 2 more shooters or copycats in this incident if you will. >> strong words there. william, thank you. >> and a decision on the export/import bank could haunt law makers. and a good samaritian finds the wrong kind of dough in his pizza box. he returns the cash but will not go away empty handed. >> i looked in my fridge and pulled out the wings and it turned out to be 1300 bucks. >> honest people are hard to find these days. every insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it.

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a california man called domino's for a hot meal but gets some cold cash deliver eed instextd he didn't know it. mike vegas says he ordered pizza and some wings, placed the wingses in the received. the next day he received dozens of calls from the delivery guy. turns out he delivered the food before a bank drop and placed money in the wings box for safekeeping and gave that box by accident to vegas. >> i got home from work and looked in my refrigerator and pulled out what i thought was ring wings and tushed out to be $1300. i made a facebook post and a lot are arguing, you should keep it, you shouldn't keep it. i wanted to keep it, believe me. but i couldn't. >> he probably returned it. there's nothing more disappointing if you go looking for wings and there's none there. regardless he he'll get pizza free for a year for his honesty.

>> good for him. some new information now, boeing says some american jobs could soon be moved out of the country. the company is the only major commercial airplane manufacturer left in the u.s. but it says sales will suffer with the expiration of the ex-port/ism port bank which could mean relocating jobs to other nations. dan springer joins us live from our seattle bureau with more on that. dan. >> hi, john. the export import bank has been around to help. the charter expired in july and there's been a major fight within the republican party in the house over whether or not to reauthorize it. the tea party conservatives call it a form of crony capitalism argue that the companies that receive the greatest benefit don't really need it. boeing routinely collects more than a third of the low-interest taxpayer backed loans. their biggest customers also benefittingor airlines like

emirates are also making hundreds of millions of dollars in prast profits right now. >> they have every ability to borrow money. i don't see any reason why the government needs to be involved. >> boeing says not having the ex-embank puts them at a disadvantage. it's not just planes. boeing says it will have to cut up to 300 jobs by the end of the year because it lost a satellite contract. but it's not just boeing. many small companies also get loan guarantees from the ex-im bank so they can grow their businesses. we found a craft brew maker who now sells close of half of his beer in sweden. the bank doesn't cost taxpayers anything because the loans are mostly getting repaid. democrats call reauthorization of the bank a no-brainer. >> the government has always been the back stop for our businesses to go out and sell and say, we expect that they'll pay, but if they don't the banks aren't going to lose their

money. >> reauthorization passed in the senate but has not come up for a vote in the house where democrats especially say it has plenty of votes to pass. john? >> dan springer from seattle, thank you. a fox alert. millions of dollars probably meant for isis will not reach its final destination. customs officials in south africa stopping five men at johannesburg's airport. paul is live in johannesburg with more. >> reporter: jenna, a senior police investigating officer in the eleelt investigative team that's been working on this case has told fox news it is very likely the money, some $6 million in value, was going to isis and that this could be an inside job involving airport workers in both johannesburg airport and also in dubai. fox news has also learned that senior investigative officers have been in contact with their counterparts in dubai trying to go, as he told me, deep into

just who the five men carrying the money were and who their contacts in the gulf were. the five all south african were walking down the ramp to the aircraft with 12 banks when approached by agents. cash in the bag, a total of 6 million u.s. dollars in value. officials told fox news the men were arrested when they saw custom officers on the ramp and tried to turn back but other officers shut the access door behind them, trapping them on the ramp. although a police source tells us a group of men have been found traveling to due buy frequently, they're in particularly interested in one of the members of the group who was traveling every second day for the last year. police say this could be an inside job but both johannesburg airport and dubai. jenna? >> thank you. we would like to extend sincere condolences on this monday to our friend and fox

news contributor mary katherine ham and her family. mary katherine's husband, wife house staffer jake brewer, was killed in a tragic accident over the weekend while bicycling to raise money to fight cancer. he was only 34-year-old. mary katherine has a 2-year-old with a second baby on the way. a go fund me page is out. all of our thoughts and prayers go out to mary katherine and her family from her fox family. we'll be right back.

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