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hours ago, president obama greeting the pontif in washington dpchlt c. tomorrow, the pope attends a >> on thursday, he addresses a joint session of congress, but before the pope speaks the media declaring this visit. politico is predicting the pope. and cnn has been running the headline the pope versus g.o.p. joining us tonight, senator ted
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cruz, dr. ben carson and governor bobby jindal. we begin with howie kurt so there you have it. this is terrible for republicans and wonderful for democrats. >> "new york times" today says it will benefit left or right. the major theme of the coverage has been because this pope speaks out against excesses of capitolism and helping the poor and becauthis was a awkward, difficult headache for the g.o.p. what is far less emphasized is that this pope and his church oppose abortion. >> oh, they do? >> yes. that is part of the story. he's landing on a day when fed democrats blocked the vote on late term abortions that francis and the catholic church oppose
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gay marriage and oppose contraception so it's a problem for democrats. >> first of all on the "new york times," ted cruz is up next. we're going to talk about the headline they ran on peloci versus the pope and the g.o.p. it's to the point where the media is pummelling the pontiff so badly on the plane about how he must be against republicans and how he's a liberal. the pope had to come out and say i am not a liberal. i am pushing longstanding church doctrine. i am not a liberal, he said he. >> he said some things that could be seen as leftish but he hasn't changed church doctrine. that needs to be part of the coverage. it's a humble pope, an inspirational pope. his tone and actions create complications for both parties. >> howie, great to see you.
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as howie mentioned senate democrats killed a ban on late term abortions. something the catholic church isn't exactly in favor of if you paid attention in sunday school. joining me now, senator ted cruz. >> it's great to be with you, megyn. the main street media are partisan. they're obama's number one protectors and rooting for hillary. pope francis has been an incredible voice for life, marriage and religious liberty. in all three, we're seeing an assault unprecedented in the history of our country.
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the democrats and media don't want to talk about the fact senate democrats stood virtually united in support of late term abortions. they don't want to talk about these horrifying planned parenthood videos. and they don't want to talk about the assault on marriage that pope francis stood up against. they don't address the continued assault on religious liberty. you know, in egypt, when we saw 22 christians beheaded by isis and the obama white house described it as they're being killed because of their egyptian citizenship, pope francis spoke out, he said their blood confesses jesus christ. i'm very glad he's with us. >> some are suggesting these republicans are going to have to avoid photo ops with the pope.
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or, for example, forget the abortion thing. what about little sisters of the poor? the obama administration successfully sued to make them give the okay in writing such that they're employees can get contraception which pope francis may not love. >> megyn, you're right. i pledged if i'm elected president on the first day in office, i will instruct the department of justice to open an investigation into planned parenthood and these horrific videos and i will instruct every federal agency that the persecution of religious liberty ends that day, that means the case against the little sisters of the poor will be dismissed. i mean this is an administration, the obama administration that is litigating against a catholic charity, the little sisters attempting to force the nuns to pay millions of fines under
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obama administration to try to force them for abortion inducing drugs. it makes no sense and it's radical and extreme. i'm curious if the main stream media will feel about litigating against nuns. >> the media chooses to focus on the divide between the republican party and this pope whit comes to issues like immigration or climate change. okay. those may be legitimate slips. but where is the focus on the fact he's going to address a joint session of congress that refused to sign off on a ban of 20 week abortions, of a five month old baby in the womb. they stood up and said we don't want to ban that. if there is an exception for the life of the mother we're not going to get behind that. this same media in "new york times," look at the headline about nancy pelosi. look at this. in pelosi, strong catholic faith
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and abortion rights co-exist. that is fine. you can co-exist if it's pro choice. but not any income inequality or immigration you need to avoid photo ops with the pope. >> the media, as i said are trying to distract the public and lie to the public. but there is power to truth. one of the reasons i think that our presidential campaign has such tremendous momentum is because speaking the truth with a smile has power, coming out of that first debate that you moderated in 100 hours that followed our campaign raised over a million dollars in 100 hours, people went to ted cruz.org, contributed. the second debate that just ended we raised over $1 million in 48 hours, less than half as much time. >> how does that compare to your
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compadres? >> none of them announced their results. what i can tell you is that in the campaign so far, our campaign has raised the most money. we've had 300,000 contributions. average contribution is $81. people go to tedcruz.org. >> 81? interesting. >> they're looking for someone to stand up. try to speak with precision. >> like a dollar fee for making you go through the process or something? >> it's great to be with you. thank you. >> now, reports the fbi recovered personal e-mails from the computer server the clinton campaign thought it had deleted. bloomberg media quoting a source saying the fbi recovered personal and work related e-mails from a private computer server used by hillary clinton during her time as secretary of
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state. our own ed henry joins us now live. ed? >> good to see you. things could not be hotter for hillary clinton. she's been sliding in the polls. this report quoted one source familiar with the fbi investigation as suggesting as you say, that the fbi recovered not just personal e-mails but work related e-mail. why is that significant? go back to the beginning on march 10th at the united nations. her narrative was that she'd deleted roughly 30,000 personal e-mails just about yoga, her daughter's wedding. and that the rest were work related that she turned over. if the fbi has now recovered work-related e-mails, official e-mail that's were deleted that would, this would be a game changer. and suggest that she was not telling the truth on march 10th. secondary, if they're recovering work related e-mails does that raise more classified
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information being on the personal server despite hillary clinton saying no. there is no classified information? i just got off the phone with nick merrill. he is in des moines taking off at the airport, leaving after the event tonight. he told me two things. he said we've always cooperated with the fbi and two, he said we simply don't know what the fbi and does not have. they're in the dark about where this investigation is going. final point, under political pressure, hillary clinton took a position on the key film "pipeline" and said she's now against the pipeline. two, there is an event at the white house with vice president biden, african american leaders and they were chanting run, joe, run. but there is more information spilling out from this fbi investigation in the days ahead. >> i have to ask you this before i let you go. you tell me whether i misread the report. to me, it was significant they
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recovered personal e-mails. the report seemed to be suggesting deleted e-mails have been recovered. they have been recovered and now, will determine whether personal or work related. when i read they'd recovered work related i justifyinged they recovered ones they seemed to produce. the bottom line is that they got the e-mails and they're going through them now. >> right. both could be significant is the bottom line. there could be ones that she deems personal and deleted they've now recovered and others say that is work related and something else. in terms of work related, i think that is significant because she said i turned these over to the state department. anything work related. you've right. maybe she turned over 80% of them. 90% of them. there are other work related ones. we don't know. >> her claims are now being checked by the fbi. >> and challenged.
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>> they've got the e-mails. ed, great to see you. >> thank you. >> we're also hearing from the carson campaign on stories suggesting he's changing his stance regarding his comment about a muslim president. dr. carson said it's not true. he's not changing his stance. he'll join us, next, then, governor bobby jindal is here, and senator marco rubio hit donald trump hard on foreign policy. brit hume is here with the latest on the site. and the aclu is claiming kim davis is causing problems for same-sex couples trying to get married. by the way, she's with us, here, tomorrow night. tonight, our lawyers, mark and arthur are here on the possibility davis could be headed back to jail. ♪
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is consistent with the constitution? no, i do not. i do not advocate that we would put a muslim in charge of this nation. >> i said i would support if -- again, it seems for people to be hard to hear the word anyone. i said i would support anyone regardless of background if, in fact, they embraced american values and are constitution and are willing to place that above their believes. >> dr. carson, thank you for being here. have you dhanged your position from what you were saying on "meet the press."
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>> if you look at the interview, it says anybody is somebody who is acceptable to me. and then the follow up question to that was about a muslim for president. if i said that anybody who embraces our values and our constitution, obviously the question is asked in context of somebody who doesn't. of course, if they don't, i don't want them to be the president of the united states. it's fairly simple and straight forward. >> well, it was confusing the way it came out. your answer to that second question sounded absolute. you know, no. i absolutely couldn't get behind a muslim for president. so 245's what led to people believing that's how you felt. but you're stating now you have no problem with a muslim being president. you stated today that would be if he would renounce shureah law. is that where you stand?
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many have come out and said is that a litmus test? >> bear in mind, in the thor tative doctrines of islam you cannot separate church and state. so, in order to be eligible to be president of the united states. you're going to have to renounce that, which makes you a heretic and an infidel. but as long as they're willing to do that, and to clearly place the united states constitution above their personal believes, that's like anybody else. bear in mind, if there was a christian running and that christian wanted to establish a theocracy, i could not support that person, either. >> um-hmm. do you care, the council on
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islamic and terrorist relations, they're very angry. they came out and said this. not long ago, they were wrong then and they were wrong now. we asked to withdraw from the presidential race. >> any response to c.a.r.e.? >> yeah, i would say that my believes are completely in line with the united states constitution. and if they can show me something that i have said that is out of whack with it, i'm certainly happy to consider that. but i believe, in fact, that their believes, if you looked throughout the world, at muslim
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government, i see discrimination against women, discrimination against gays, sub jew gags of other religious believes. and i would be very interested in somebody showing me one of the muslim nations where that is not occurring. >> this is on a different sublt, but it made news and it was unbelievable in ohio. you were introduced by now a grown man who was once a five-year-old boy on whose brain you operated and whose life you saved. adam brandt came out and talked about how you operated on a brain tumor. what was that like? >> it's wonderful.
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i've operated on so many thousands. that is actually the second. some people think that being a politician is a great thing or being a businessman is a great thing. i can tell you, there's nothing that compares to intervening in people's lives and gives them quality of life and longevity. >> must be quite a thing to look at this man now cancer-free since he was 12. >> also, late today, senator marco rubio. just ahead, why this is significant and what it tells us. take zzzquil and sleep like... the kids went to nana's house... for the whole weekend.
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you just heard dr. ben carson offering an explanation. and the media coverage over the last day or so has been brutal. >> i'm -- the only thing i'm surprised about is that the muslim bashing has taken this long to come out in the gop ceiling. >> it's a real problem for ben carson. and, unfortunately, it's a real problem for the republican party until this is cleaned out. >> good to see you tonight, governor. so now you've heard scarboro there. this is a problem for the entire gppo. you all need to be asked what you think about whether president obama is a muslim, whether he was born in the united states and whether we can have a muslim pret. is that where we are now? >> well, may began, first, look. the gop durnt have a muslim problem.
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here's why this is such a silly gotchya question to republicans. they keep asking presidential candidates like myself, would you vote for a muslim for president? show me that one who's going to fight to repeal obamacare. show me that candidate. i'd be happy. >> i'm sorry? look, i think a conservative is in the end. >> there are muslims who are conservative who stands for religious liberty. they are. they're out there. >> at the end of the day, i'm going to vote for somebody who does the best job for the value.
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i love to play silly games. our country does have a problem with radicalism. he doesn't want to say that muslim leaders doesn't want to say that muslim leaders make lely jous liberty for other people. but these are just silly gotchya questions. at the end of the day, i'm the best qualified candidate. looking for some strong candidate to emerge and kick down. your polling numbers are obviously not near the top. what do you make of that message? >> look, i don't think the lnc, the establishment, the donors, should try to pick our candidates.
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the reality is we need to fight for our conservative principles. we're building great crowds. i think it's time to fire all the incumbents and the republicans and democratic party. they said they were going to defund my parenthood. they said they were going to stop by the iran deal. i've got more -- i'm actually angry at the republicans. >> they tried. they say they try, but they hadn't voted one replacement for obamacare. >> i wish they'd fight half as hard. they're sparking emotion. it's time 230 fire all of them and elect real conservatives.
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>> is donald trump qualified to be president of the united states? >> well, as i said, the most important thing a president will ever do is provide for the national security of our country. up until now, he hasn't answered serious questions about national security. up until now, there should be questions about any candidate that's not able to speak with clarity and seriousness about the national security set threat that is we face. the job of the president is to ensure a policy that allows a private sector to grow and prosper. and if you can't articulate that, you cannot be commander in chief. >> fox news, senior political analyst. now, is this the argument about why an older doesn't make the most sense? >> well, it depends on the outsider, may began.
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he brought a philosophy and a broad con september of foreign policy with some specificity in details to the task. and that is something we have yet to see as marco rubio krktly points out about donald trump. he makes the point that foreign policy is the province of the government. not just the government, the federal government. the executive branch of the an falls principally, there therefore on the president. and i've always thought the conduct of foreign policy and national defense. that is an area where donald trump, to date, to be fair, to date has not said very much. he said he's going to build the strongest military and he's talked ant his negotiating skills and how he put them to work as president, how he would
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negotiate and how he would get along with putin and others. but so far, that's about all he's really given us. he promtss more and perhaps, in time, he will produce more. i do think it's not unreasonable to say that he needs to. >> he's promised more subjects, but then he's had an interesting exchange with hugh hewitt. this is how trump answered. >> you have to have a certain -- people can't know exactly what your tensions are. you want to have a certain amount of -- you want to have a little guesswork. this has nothing to do with lack of knowledge. i will tell you, i don't want to broadcast my intentions.
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now, that does not mean if you have a military operation in mind or a particular counter attack of defense that you would articulate that. but it does mean when somebody talks about some possibility like pakistan going rogue, which is certainly not old the realm of possibility, you've got to do better than say i toent want to tell you. i think that's probably not going to stand. i think perhaps he knows that and will attempt to have better answers in the future. over time, he d be -- you know, he'll be expected to have some more specific annals. >> how big of a roll do you think that played in trump's full numbers in that cnn poll. a lot of people are saying look at this other poll.
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not just in this race, we don't cite those polls. anyway, how big of a roll do you think the foreign policy exchange that trump had on russia and putin had on the softening side of members. >> it's really impossible to say. i'm a little concerned about that poll. plus or mile nous margin of error. it's hard to know what everybody was thinking. there's going to be more said about this. and more answers will be expected. it would be to raise the issue in a way it comes up again and again and again. >> meantime, trump retweeted something called marco amnesty last night.
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>> never fails, does it. >> kind of catch chill. >> also, today, the aclu is now pushing to have kim davis thrown back in jail, claiming the clerk is causing new problems for same-sex couples trying to get married. our lawyers are here tonight on the possibility that david could land behind bars again. by the way, she is with us torm night. but, next, breaking news on this decorated green beret who got in trouble for admitting a child rapist who also happens to be an afghan ally. up next, while this fight has gone all the way to the white house and the green beret is losing. >> for the policy to sort of govern the relationship between u.s. military personnel serving afghanistan and their afghan counter parts and department of defense. ♪ ♪
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appeals to remain in the army is denied becausehere is no new evidence. it's the original evidence that made the sry so controversial. claiming one of the afghan police commanders had repeatedly raped her 12-year-old son and badly beaten her. the sergeant confronted the afghan police commander and captain quinn told the kelley file and the man confessed. >> he started laughing in our face and shrugging his shoulders almost as if to say it's no big deal. quin who accepted the army's dismissal threw them to the ground. even though u.s. soldiersre not required to report cases of
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child abuse in afghanistan, today, the department of defense strongly disputed reports that members of the military had been told to lookhe other way. listen. >> there is no policy in plars that directs any u.s. military of government personnel overseas to ignore human rights abuses. on the contrary, we monitor such atrocities closely. >> now, republican congressman is out raged by the soldier's removal. >> trace, thank you. joining me now, captain daniel quin. he aes a former captain and been fighting to keep martlin in the army. this is unbelievable. he's done. the army has sided with the afghan child.
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all the he wants to do is to continue to serve our country. just like he's cone done for the last 11 years. it's a disservice to him, his family and everyone that knows him. >> what do you make of this statement that we just heard? there's no policy in place for human rights vie lagtss. none at all. >> that's not necessarily true. there's been three previous cases of sexual assault. charles and i reported each one up our chain of command. what the policy is that we have to go through the local government of afghanistan. in our case, we went through local government three times, and all three times, it was basically met with indifference. >> they don't care. these afghan communities are raping children. and this is somehow acceptable over there. and they examine expect the american commanders to say okay, no problem.
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>> the last time we did that, the 14-year-old girl was raped in a field. her rapist was found guilty. she was forced to marry him because she was no longer a virgin, was now tainted and unacceptable to be married to anyone educational. >> i don't get it. we are who we are. and these guys sound like they're asking them to sacrifice all they stand for in order to serve their country over there. >> yeah, imagine this, too. you're a 20-year-old kid and you're serving your nation. and on your u.s. base, you actually see child rapists and ped files and hear the screams of little boys at night. and you're told i's an afghan criminal issue. of course there's no policy. but they were allowing this to happen.
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i don't know if they don't want to offend the rong people. frankly, i can't get anywhere on this you shall shoe in the armed services committee. >> who can reverse it? who can get martlin back in? >> the secretary of the army. the problem is a former congressman. >> why wouldn't they want this? why are they against him? >> because they're all chummy. they ooir all buddies. we've been bringing this up three or four months now. this martlin case has exposed that there have been hundreds of soldiers and marines now exposed to these child rapists on their bases. this isn't like danny quinn alone and unafraid. this was happening on u.s. bases where you had hundreds, if not thousands of u.s. military personnel.
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so this is now been allowed by the u.s. government. and, instead of stopping this and the army saying hang on, let the sergeant stay in and we're going to stop this. they aren't doing that. >> can tan, i've got to go. >> you want your son or daughter to serve in an institution who says ped feel ya and child rape is okay as long as it's the custom of the land and it's a criminal case for them. don't worry about it. >> i've got to go. i've got to go. >> first of all, he's very thankful for all the support he's received. it's humbling for him and i. he's obviously deaf fitly broken
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wants kentucky court clerk kim davis back in front of a judge in the wake of her refusal to issue same-sex marriage licenses. joining me with the very latest on this motion, criminal defense attorney mike eiglarsh? what do they want now? >> the problem is people are getting a marriage certificate-ish and on the happiest day of their life they have to go to an attorney and show them the certificates. and attorneys like my bald beautiful brother are saying this is questionable at best. >> she got back, she's issuing -- not she, but the office is issuing marriage licenses and it was fine. it was working. what happened that got the aclu so upset today? >> the original forms had her name on them like a rubber stamp. >> while she was in jail. >> then someone elsing their signature on. she created a new form and took her name off of it. >> she altered -- while she was
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in jail. >> here why there's an issue. apparently, mark, her lawyer is saying the governor's office looked at the new form and said these are valid. i don't know what the hubbub is about. >> what does the aclu want? do they want her to go back to jail? >> ultimately they want her to issue a certificate that everyone else gets. if she gave marriage a fifth try and she got a certificate that was altered in this way, she would take exception to it. some people feel humiliated. it shouldn't be different certificates for different people. >> that's what the issue is. it's more of how it feels than the actual effect. in other words, the governor -- >> that counts for a legal challenge, arthur? >> i don't think so. the governor has said this is a valid marriage license. unfortunately, this is such a new thing that it takes a while for everyone to kind of come around. she was voted into office, this wasn't the law. >> they shouldn't have to come
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tomorrow night a television event. kim davis sits down with yours truly. what will she do if they arrest her again?set your dvrs, kim da right here tomorrow at 9:00. tonight -- >> anybody regardless of their religion or affiliation, if they embrace american values and they place the constitution at the top level, then i'm supportive of them. >> dr. benjamin carson clarifies his comments about a muslim being president. mark steyn is here tonight with reaction. >> the world is a more dangerous place. >> then carly fiorina unveils her foreign policy plans amid a surge in the polls. >> terrorism is not waning as a threat as our president tried to reassure us. >> newt gingrich will weigh in on the
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