that is our show. see you next week. [applause] >> right now on justice nearly four-days since the gcargo ship vanished tonight new clues in the water that could lead to the ship. plus the flooding in south carolina reaches historic proportions. we have live team coverage of the destruction. there is even more pain to come. >> i wish you could be president. >> me, too. >> keep dreaming the democratic frontrunner yucks it up on "saturday night live" while i mix it up with one of her top supporters right here. justice starts now.

>> welcome to "justice. we begin with breaking news. a new development in the search for the missing cargo ship with 33 aboard, 28 of them americans. tonight rescue crews searching for the ship report they found a large debris field some 225 square miles in the bahamas. it includes pieces of wood, styrofoam, car go and other items. plus searchers earlier today found life jackets, containers and an oil sheen in the water. the crew hasn't been heard from since 7:20 thursday morning. they reported they were taking on water but said it was manageable. they were taking in winds and rains during hurricane joaquin when it vanished.

33 members on board the ssel faro. rob, you patrol these same waters with the coast guard. you heard about what was found today. is this good news or not so good news? >> thank you so much for having me on judge jeanine. farce finding debris in the water it could obviously go either way. if the debris is of a nature that you would expect to find from a ship, life jackets, life rings you wouldn't expect those things to come to land. this hurricane had been circulating over the bahamas for several days. the storm surge could have been pulling debris off of the land. we have to think about the search for this in the indian ocean. there's a lot of marine debris

in the ocean. that is one of the things they are working to fight is debris. >> yesterday the life ring they located had been name the name elfaro on it. >> that is something, debris in the water can be like bread crumbs. it can lead you to where the vessel could be or where the life rafts could be located. >> now today the coast guard, they have stopped searching today, today would have been a good day given the wind conditions and the waves being far less high as we were they had and before. >> today is the very first good weather day for the search effort. i understand there's still a few

cutters in the search through the night in the vicinity of the islands there. >> rob, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> the ship left jacksonville florida on tuesday and moved to puerto rico. family members on those on board the ship are gathering at union headquarters near where the ship left. larry is near wfox in jacksonville and he joins us live. what is the scene there at the families? oo a press conference is being held. they met with families early tonight for about three hours. the search has ended for tonight. we have videos of people moving through one by one. this is the first day in a row

they met with families updating them on the latest whereabouts on missing container el faro. crew members have not heard from the captain since thursday morning around 8:00. officials tell me with 33 members on board. most of them have ties to jacksonville. this picture saying crews found two life rings and a life jacket where the ship disappeared but only connected one of the rings with el faro. they sent out this video as if he found more items in the water but they are not connected with the ship. i spoke with several family members today. one member has a daughter on the ship. she tells me her daughter loves the sea but a as days go by her hope is waning.

>> until they bring her home, i pray to god they bring them all home. they are hoping for a positive outcome. fox 30 action news. >> thanks so much. joining me is captain tim taylor. tim, you have captained boats in the same area before, what are these guys up against? >> they are up against a lot especially since the conditions of how this all occurred. in any one scenario running from the storm or bunching through--t punching through it or going around it is fine. they lost control of the ship. >> why did they go out? they knew a tuhurricane was coming. is there a liability issue here?

>> that is ultimately the captain's responsibility whether he was pushed by corporate or whether he thought he could get ahead of the storm it was a tropical storm it was heading north. i can put myself in his shoes. it cut off his route to where he was going. he would have to turn around or run from it go north or punch through it. >> he had no option when he lost his power of his ship. he was a leaf in the wind. it is extremely dangerous. >> all right. they call and they say we are taking on water, they have 300 cars or containers cars trucks, trailers. then it goes dead. >> i will paint you a picture. they lost power and have all of the cargo on board.

>> it rocks it and slams it with 30-foot waves. things start breaking free inside. it is probably the scenario that played out. it is not a good thing. it gets worse from there. >> it is 790 feet according to most reports. if this thing is happening so quickly how high is a ship like this, how many floors are there? >> it is some superstructure. it is built twice as high. if it has containers it could be 1-feet high. >> jumping off the boat is a problem. if you are in the engine room the engine room is at the bottom of the vessel. all of this is happening quickly. there is only one mayday

basically. how does someone get from the engine room up to the top to get to the boat? >> these guys are trained to muster get on their life boats when it is time. they are trained to saver the ship. they are better off to try to stay on it and keep it afligoat and do what they can. whether they have a chance to get to the life raft if some of them did it is a matter of in a perfect world everyone gets into the raft and they are floating. this is a bad situation where some of them got into it maybe none of them got to it maybe they were able to launch it. >> in that case it was. >> this type of life raft i see on the ships u to lower them it takes a while. >> within last question. if they are on a life raft and it was in the eye of the turn

when they had the problem that's an even bigger problem. >> if they got on the life raft and got away from the ship and it didn't do damage to them while they got away they would have a much better chance of surviving. they can go up and down it is a rough ride. they may have gone hundreds of miles with the wind. the storm can take that. >> there's still hope. >> four-days later. len dau green wahl knows what it is like to cap dan a shi ship in dangerous storms. she was portrayed in a movie "the perfect storm." she joins us from her home in maine. linda? >> hi there. >> you have heard what we have been saying there's a debris field 255 miles wide. not clear whether or not any of it is from the el faro, but you have been in much worse conditions in smaller boats. what is your take on what is

going on now four-days later. >> i don't have a whole lot to add to what the captain just said before me. i would say there's still some hope to find some people in the raft, but i think as time marches on, the search field, they know where they are searching, they know what the wind was doing. they should be able to figure out where the raft would be at this point. >> all right. so this cargo ship loses power or per pulsion in the middle of a hurricane. you are a captain. what do you do in a situation like that? >> that is a worse case scenario. that would be a nightmare. >> why? >> sea man ship 101 when you are in serious weather around the object is to keep the bow or the boat of the shift into the wind. we call it jogging into it. if you lose poer and you are laying in the trough as the

other captain explained you are in real trouble. >> the fact that they have over 300 container with automobiles and trailers if any of that comes lose that exacerbates things i assume. >> i assume so. the reports i heard about the 15 degree lifts is that because it created the lift. you have to keep your boat on even keel. i didn't hear if they had a left. >> asufrpgszs are water came in the ship and changed it. if this is going to the wind, you have equipment that can shift. that's a big thing. >> let's keep praying and hoping they are in the life boats. captain linda thank you. >> still ahead i am talking politics with a democratic

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>> welcome back. take a look at what people in south carolina are dealing with right now. days on end of rain fueled by winds from hurricane joaquin kills at least three people and left tens of thousands without power many of them out of their homes. there's more rain on the way. let's bring in meteorologist janice dean. how much rain fell on south carolina over the past few days and how much more is coming? oo that is the question tonight. take a look at the radar. the precipitation is over 34 inches in just a matter of 48-hours. here are some of the totals over 24 inches close to 20 inches in georgetown pine wood.

we are going to get upwards perhaps of two feet maybe additional 6 to 12 inches. that is the take away. the winds combined with those areas have made a funnel of moisture to pound the area of south carolina. we were likening it to a fire hose of moisture. it was catastrophic as i was hearing. people are devastated unfortunately. looking at the potential over the next couple of days north of charleston an additional 6-1012 inches of rainfall. we have to get through the next 48-hours as we continue to see

the moyse our as we go over the next sunday night sundmonday ni into tuesday. it will linger and it will make things next to impossible to travel. it will take months if not years. the plume of moisture continues to come in. we have flash flood watches all of the way up to wilmington meaning flooding is occurring. we are in a civil emergency in the state of south carolina. we haven't touched on that brushing bermuda. that will lead to beach erosion, high surf, rip current along the east coast until at least tuesday.

>> let's get out to the affected areas and we will start with fox news reporter steve harrigan. he will look at the scope of the damage. >> this is what the scene looked like on main street and columbia. this is a 5 lane road. it disintegrated. the governor warned about the road collapsing in different parts of the state with a stretch from i 95 that is going around columbia. it is here on main street you can image how it is on some of the rural areas around the state. the rain is letting up right now. people stay off the roads tomorrow and the next day. cars still moving in the

distance there. the city tried to recover from what was an ongoing major storm. >> jackie approach is a spokesperson for georgetown county. jackie is with us now live on the phone. are you there? >> yes, i am. >> i heard the governor today say they haven't seen this level of rain in 1,000 years. i never heard any one talk about 1,000 years. >> i don't know about a thousand years. we have been saying it is historic storm at least in 100 years. >> we had a little break in the rain that led to some of the flooding to recede. it is raining hard again now.

we are in for more and hoping for the best. >> you have got the swiss water rescue team and the first responders, the emergency crews. how is everybody holding up down there? >> i think ner all exhausted. they are out there doing their best. we all who are lucky enough to be inside can't thank them enough. they performed a water search and rescue a car was swept away in a creek. we had arierial footage. you would think you were on a river but those are streets under there. it is a little bit shocking. >> we lost our home in a blood. what happens with a flood is when the water dries up or drains which can take an awful

long time there is tremendous damage, housing damages. in the meantime as the water increases people have to leave their houses. where are they going? >> we have three shelters that are open. that will increase as the night goes on. some may have been taken to the hospital may have other places to go. i know the city fire department in georgetown was so busy earlier today answering calls from people trapped in their homes people got trapped in the vehicles and they say responded to 60 calls in a matter of hours and left off other fire departments. >> there will be additional

problems, super markets flooded and i image plans are being made for the recovery when this finally clears there is still tremendous work to be done. >> they are already talking about perhaps going out and doing damage assessment tomorrow if the rain is gone and the weather will allow us to do that. right now life safety is there they are hoping to get us back to normal before the rain passes. >> jackie in south carolina. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> hillary clinton on "saturday night live". i debate someone who disagrees. that's always fun. that's

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headquarters i'm kelly write. two coast guard cutters are searching for any sign of the u.s. cargo ship that went missing off the bahamas. the ship was equipped with two life boats but it's not clear if they were used. so far, the only confirmed search is a life ring with the ship's name on it. other debris has been found but authorities have not confirmed it's from the scene. and the school of last week's horrific shooting will reopen monday to retrieve their belongings. thursday's shooting killed ten people, including the gunman. i'm kelly wright. for all of your news headlines

log on to foxnews.com. oh, you are all loser? >> you think he will rwin the primaries? >> he must. i want to be the one who takes him down. i will destroy him and mount his hair in the oval office. >> that's hillary clinton showing her funny side on ""sahe capped off another week sagging poll numbers with last night's guest appearance on the show. joining me to talk about hillary as well as the rest of the field in the race for president is david good friend. david is democratic strategist and former aid to president bill clinton. all right david. a fun year friendlier hillary. isn't that a hard sell?

>> if>> i want to thank you for having me on the show. first time being on it is a great show. thank you for having me on. your question remind me a lot of 1991 when bill clinton a candidate went on the arsenio hall show and played the saxophone to the tune of heartbreak hotel. people furrowed their brows and said that's inappropriate. it was really a pivotal moment for him in his campaign. i don't know if it will be a pivotal moment but it doesn't rise to a sort of bar furrowing. i think it is frankly a side of hillary i wanted. >> her numbers are down. favorables are upside down. two books came out you have clinton's war on women. it is not a good week for her

and i haven't mentioned the e-mails yet. >> before coming on the show i looked at real clear politics.com which is an aggregating site which shows all polling across the country. hillary clinton leads by far the democratic field. she still leads by far in head to head match ups in general election match ups with all of the republicans. i know you might think she is had a bad week but i would maintain somebody wake me up after south carolina. new amp shir will probably go to bernie sanders. i think iowa still needs clinton. when we get to the primary states in the south we will see shaking out of the democratic side of the race. not to mention what happens with the republican side. >> the international association of firefighters was supposed to endorse her in september. they backed off that

endorsement. afl cio, it seems like they are waiting for joe biden or being swayed by bernie sanders. this is the stuff hillary planned to have locked down by now. >> i think within organized labor there's a collective sense of not jumping the gun. nobody wants to be taken for granted. they were against the trance pacific trade agreement and lost that fight and they are not happy about it. they are not happy about being taken for granted by democrats. i don't think any labor unit with possible exception of the national education people the teachers would make an endorsement. i do work for the international before hood of teamsters said we are not going to endorse a candidate but invite a lot of conversations with a lot of them

they included hillary clinton sanders and donald trump. >> i would think anybody with labor would be donald trump. he employs them. let's talk about the pesky e-mails. are you concerned? >> i think when the current who us majority leader said this is all a political stunt. >> that's benghazi. >> i am talking e-mails>> no, but the e-mails came out of that committee. the ben gbenghazi -- >> i agree. i think kevin mccarthy made a dumb statement. it was outrageous. >> it was honest. >> it under lines what trey gowdy is doing. let's talk about the e-mails themselves. the whole idea of a private

server. i want to continue with what you said. you are a smart guy. one of the main reasons i have a ten- year term is make sure the organization, meaning the fbi stays out of politics. if you faux know my folks they give a whit about politics. and my job is we are honest. do you know jim comey? >> this is the same guy that when alberto gonzalez and bush tried to pressure the attorney general in the hospital this is the guy that stepped in and said no. >> he is a straight shooter. >> i agree. >> what about the fact that he says i have 10 years. i think what he is saying is if i don't have permission to indict now if i got the evidence i can move forward with another president? >> i have a different interpretation. i think what he's saying is the position of fbi director because

it is such a long-term is not subject to the wins of political pressure. this isn't somebody with ex presidency. >> you agree he cannot go forward without the administration's director of the department of justice. anyway, good to have you on this evening. thank you. >> let's talk gop now. the race to replace john boehner speaker of the house got more interesting when congressman jason japheth entered it. all right, matt. good to have you here this evening. well reswekted guy says i am in this. what do you think? >> i think republicans in the house are ram bung shoes. they haven't seen the progress based on what the party cares

about. i think he is trying to give voice to trying to shake it up and a whole new way of doing this. >> you think kevin mccarthy is ready for prime time? >> i do. he had a rookie mistake. at the end of the day the controversies around benghazi are not going to go away. the controversies around the e-mails and server are not gog to go away. democrats are worried about hillary clinton. >> what do you think joe is going to do? >> i think joe is going to get in. she is behind bernie sanders in new hampshire sheer close to behind in -- by the way if biden enters the race he has the president of the united states telling him that's okay. >> why is jeb doing so poorly

when he is spending more time than anybody. done namd trump is at the top of the heap and he doesn't seeven need to pay for anything? >> in his twitter army he calls into the show gives the press so much exposure and he is oo i think changing the way we run for politics. you have run for office. >> five times. >> we are reading into the polls too much. talking about nationwide polls. take them and throw them away. the poll that is matter are in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada and early states. if i am jeb bush looking at where i sit in these states, i have to fit in the caucuses in iowa the very small group and i think he should feel plenty good about where he sits. >> i have always said the presidential races are about the

seven swing states. given those states do you think the vice presidential candidate whoever it might be for the republicans will be from one of those states, ie rubio from florida or kasich from ohio or bush if it is not president>> almost every analysis of impact picking someone like wapaul rya doesn't end up doing that thing the battle ground state that you hoped it would do keeping a few votes that put you oef the top. bill clinton picked al gore. in the end soon to be president is much smarter to find a great partner than to look at the electoral college. >> well, that certainly is one school of thought. who do you think will win for speaker? >> i think kevin mccarthy as the

votes for speaker. he has two opponents which i think is to his advantage. dan webster and jason japhetjap. he can calm them down. he has gotten so many commitments he is in a strong commission to get it. >> when he was on brett prayer's show on the anl for t-- channel supposed apology it wasn't as clear as it might have been. >> i think it is totally schwabingy. he had the race nailed down. the reason jason chaffetz is getting in the race is because it wasn't nailed down. the question is whether he be able to do it. >> thank you for being with us. a well-known doctor joins me live next with serious questions on the air strikes with doctors without borders. we are coming right back.

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>> doctors without border the speaking out about rare strikes that destroyed one of the hospitals in afghanistan and killed 19 people, three of them children. the group says it's a war crime and they want an independent investigation into the strikes. dr. bob arnot is live with me now. bob, thank you for being with us this evening. the official equated this to a war crime and the group's president of doctors without borders says this is a great

violation of international humanitarian law. people are outraged. you have been in the hospitals and exact situation. how does something like this happen? >> they have been through during the rwanda genocide, iraq, afghanistan you name it. they took the brunt of staff members there. they are extraordinarily careful an good. september 29th they told u.n. forces where they were and what the location in the president hospital was. they image there was a strike package and they had a pi particular laser designate tore and there would have been coordinates. this is my analysis. a gun ship that was responsible

this was a big cargo plane. >> if you look at it, judge, you will see on the left-hand side there is what looks like a gun coming out. what happens is they are in a tight bag they are over the hospital like this. they would be responding to a forward air controller that would fire from this particular position which they can observe from this aircraft. they confirm the taliban had been operating in the perimeter. hospital. they were responding to live fire from the taliban. again this is much less of a precision weapon system when you used to have a big cargo plane with gunners going into the night. >> we know doctors without

borders, they are in condu. they are there because there is a war going on and it got fired up when it went back to the city. they have taliban and other african forces as patients. we know they are being treated in there. wouldn't they have to bring in the ac 130 only if americans were being fired upon in the hospital? >> exactly right. they would only have been fired with close air sports. americans would have to have been under attack. this is not bombed in a sense that there were 5 or 2,000 pound bombs. the main hospital structure was still in tact. this is a per river rewhere they were lobbing the equivalent of

large mortars out of this howitzer. it is the most likely scenario. that is what happens in terms of tracking u.s. troops in the fog of war that's what is likely to come out. >> give n everyone neknew the coordinates of the hospital hospitals with borders said you are bombing our hospital, after that call came in was there a decision that irrespective of the hospital that americans or afghan forces are being fired upon and therefore they had no choice? >> i actually went to the headquarters at the air force bases and it was hard to get through to that piarticular number. i was with the air controller with the third brigade of the armor division took down

insurgents of abu ghraib. it was a close industrial city a tough environment. they are good and precise. i doubt they would continue to do that. i don't think they got a call. i think they continued to respond to the ford air controller and the american forces under fire. >> bob, quickly who investigates this? >> it has to be an independent party. whether it is the u.n. or some other international body, that is who has to deal with it. the u.s. military will be completely transparent. they will admit any fault. they will give all of the facts involved. it has to be some independent party so it is completely believable to all. doctors without borders they will continue to operate in the most dangerous places on the planet. >> doctor bob aren't thank you for being with us this evening. >> back in a so,as my personal financial psychic, i'm sure you know what this meeting is about. yes, a raise.

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>> massive flooding damaging parts of south carolina right

now. more rain is on the way. 10's of thousands of people are out of their homes or without power. you have heard from janice dean earlier more rain is on tap for at least another day there. the this was a flood of historic proportions. our other top story a 225 mile debris field has been found in the water of crooked island where a missing cargo ship was last contacted. the debris field includes pieces of wood, cargo, styrofoam, life jackets and oil sheen. 33 people were on beared the ss el faro, 28 of the people are americans. the search will continue. keep it on fox news and foxnews.com as both of the stories continue to develop. remember to make sure to log on and send me your thoughts on

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