we will see you back here in one hour. >> "outnumbered" starts now. >> beginning with a fox news alert. on the historic flooding in one part of our nation. it is far from over. growing concerns now that more dams are on the verge of giving away. andrea tantaros is here, julie is here, stacy dash, and today's #oneluckyguy, ceo of concerned veterans of america, pete hegseth. we say he is out numbered but he is always on time. >> i appreciate that. thank you for having me. >> we have a lot to talk about with the military later in the show.

i cannot wait because you are a vet. let's get to the latest in south carolina. so many rescues. at least 11 people confirmed dead in this vicious weather. a sliver of good news. the rain is letting up but water is still the enemy with flooding expected to get worse -- fast. >> everything i have is gone. look at this. we don't know have place to go. >> jonathan surrey is live from forest acres. >> reporter: here in the columbia area the cleanup is beginning. crews are going into the back of this dry cleaners and cleaning it out. there was a car that was damaged but the flood waters are receding. the governor is holding a news conference at this moment. she said the flood waters in the midlands are subsiding but the

waters are heading downstream and expected to become more of a problem for the low country. with that, comes the potential for additional dam breaches. residents learned all too quickly how fast the water can rise. parker says flood alert on her smart phone woke her to discover the first floor of her tri-level was flooded. in the short time parker and her husband were trying to gather important documents and medicine the flood had already risen to the main floor. >> our neighbors helped us get out over the fifth. we got our and our dogs are safe and we are safe. we are very lucky. >> many residents are still under a boil water advisory and water main ruptures have caused certain neighborhoods to lose tap water.

free water distribution sites are set-up to bring bottled water and the christian non-profit water international is helping out. normally purpure pure fission - fiction systems are sent in but they are going to columbia. the death toll from the state is now up to 14 state-wide. harris? >> we will keep an eye on that news conference as well. it is so hard to watch that main man wading through the chest-high water. you don't ebon know what it is in the water. jonathan, thank you. >> hillary clinton on the offense just weeks before she is set to testify on benghazi her campaign is releasing a new national cable tv ad accusing

republicans of exploiting the deaths of four americans to score political points against the democratic frontrunner. watch. >> republicans finally admitted: >> republican kevin mccarthy saying the committee investigating benghazi and clinton's e-mail was created to destroy her canidacy. >> we put together a benghazi special committee and what are her numbers today? >> republicans spent millions attacking hillary because she is fighting for everything they oppose. >> but house speaker john boehner saying through a spokesperson "this is classic clinton behavior" this comes just one day after clinton showed some fire at a nationally televised town hall where she slammed the benghazi committee

and pointed to her early voting leads and made arguments for gun control and income inequality. i want to go to a on this one, pete. this is classic clinton. boehner is right. they wait for republicans to say something. her poll numbers went down her she is obuscating. will this work? >> the fourth or fifth reset was to feel. she is not comfort feeling. she is comfortable fighting. with the statement they can put into the add, going into the town hall and seeming feisty is more fertile ground. it might solidify her but whether or not it changes the way the voters view her and they will not trust her and she will go before the committee again in

a couple weeks and it will bring it back it the surface. >> at the end of october, she will be testifying on the committee. i agree with pete, it will take more than a political ad to turn it around. >> it is interesting watching her reshape the villian in this. how much damage has mccarthy done in all of this? is this something the republicans can turn around? when you see an ad like that it is interesting how much they used of him in the ad. >> i think it will take more of an ad to stop this. only 21% of americans, harris, are somewhat closely following this. 57% of americans are not following this at all.

i am watching the hearing to see if she makes it worse. the e-mail scandal, where she was deleteing e-mails about benghazi, are not going to go away. -- deleting. -- >> i think democrats are breathing a sigh of relief because she is going out there forg fighting. she is more comfortable going on the offense and hasn't been. i think she is at her best -- >> what is her nature? >> she is a fighter. even going back to the lewinski days -- that is her comfort zone. her numbers are up when she is fighting. democrats are saying thank you mccarthy for giving her the opportunity but long last she is

able to do what she is good at doing. >> she is blaming and insulting. trey gowdy and the congressionalal committee that is trying to find -- congressional -- justice for four americans who were murdered unnecessarily on her watch. it is not about her. it is about justice >> in fairness, there have been six investigations found nothing is wrong. >> it has been that many because she will not give up the information she is asked for. >> six investigations found nothing wrong so the seven one is today. >> we don't know what was going on to stacy's point because she deleted a lot of e-mails. one of the investigations done, the report done, was my chairman mike rogers, there is a little shady on that and our reporter adam housely has done a lot of great reporter on that but adam is going to be breaking news on this. the committee has gone out of their way, trey gowdy, to be bipartisan. they have gone out of their way

to be fair and democrats like cummings haven't been showing up to the hearings and doing everything they can to get answers on what happened. >> we don't know what the fbi has. they are tasked with finding out what criminal behavior would have happened and what evidence there is. the state department through a judge tried to access information. you have had experts on the couch tell us they are playing this close to the vest. if they go after her for criminal violation they have every i dotted and t crossed. >> that is what makes mccarthy's comments unfortunate. he misspoke. but it is true through the investigation it exposed a private server. she is trying to take away from this. >> that is implying they are

like teenage school girls with a vin deta against hillary clinton. they are not. >> i will say the following. what are you expecting her to do? do you expect her as a candidate for the united states to sit there and say let me take it, let me just take it. >> play by the rules. you know what the problem is? you are not being realistic. if you want to talk about smart strategy we expect her as former secretary of state to follow the law. she didn't. the server was illegal. and she wasn't getting intelligence on libya at the time from the national security in the white house but getting it from sidney blumenthal. >> we don't know who she was getting it from first of all. >> chris stevens, her friend, requested more security. direct cables to her and instead of beefing it up she drew the security down. that woman has blood on her hands. >> give me a break.

saying she has blood on her hands is like saying bush has blood on his hands for 9/11. you are saying this was on purpose? >> they asked for more security. >> and congress should have provided more of this. >> as the leader you take responsibility >> after today we have the first democratic presidential debate. does this issue come up? bernie sanders said he is going to focus on the issues. if joe biden announces and gets in, does he hit her with it? >> joe biden said he will not be at the first debate. if bernie sanders isn't bringing it up, the press or moderator will. >> biden will not because he is part of the administration. hillary clinton weighed in saying it doesn't make a difference how they died. moving on now. president obama is considering

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we're doing everything we can to give you the best experience possible. because we should fit into your life. not the other way around. the top u.s. commander in afghanistan is on the hot seat today facing touch questions from the senate armed service committee. the security situation in northern afghanistan is falling apa apart over what he calls the accidental bombing of a hospital that is a doctors without borders hospital. campbell is issuing this warning about the afghanistan forces being able to handle the issue on their own.

>> they have shown without key commanders they cannot handle the fight alone at this stage in their development. i am convinced the improved leadership and accountability will address most of their deficiency but it will take time to build the human capital. the afghanistan security performance in this fighting season underscores that the shortfalls exist well beyond this year. >> we learned this: president obama is considering a proposal to keep 5,000 troops on the ground in afghanistan through at least the end of the term. that would slow the original plan to draw down do 1,000 troops. at this point, this is how they are trained. this is many years into the this, pete, what failed? >> a lot of things. it is a much more difficult environment in afghanistan than say iraq. you are talking biblical tiles. nation building is nearly impossible in afghanistan. we never acknowledged we never

had the amount of troops we need. we told the enemy when we were leaving. i went in optimistic and left pessimi pessimi pessimistic because the taliban gave the idea the americans are on the way out and we are here to stay. we are seeing military progress but not through the afghanistan army. >> did the taliban hit the reset button? they were successful taking the fifth largest city. >> they have been hitting the reset button for over a decade and building support in the countryside. if we don't come along the army, we may have a place with the president of afghanistan is the mayor of kabul. you have a powder keg in afghanistan because of the irresponsible policies there that are not getting better. >> this is a tragedy to me because i love this charity and

it is one of the best on earth. we are blaming the afghanistan people saying they told us where to bomb and that is where we dropped it. did we not do research and intelligence? >> of course, but the less american troops you have the more you rely on these forces. the taliban is the one to blame for this. they put us in impossible positions. i wish our commander and chief would remind the american people what kind of savages we face >> julie, you are a democrat. how do you view the president's handling of afghanistan and that area? >> i spoke to an admiral well before president obama took over and he said something interesting. the taliban knows that eventually we will lose and they will still be there. this is a graveyard of empires

for a reason. they know time is their biggest allies. >> and we have a commander and chief telegraphing when we are coming and leaving. >> that might be the case -- >> i want to get pete in here because isn't the problem, when you go into the war for political reason, he will not say radical jihadism even. this is tremendously sad. how do the troops on the ground feel about this? we don't have a committed commander and chief or strategic mission? >> they are vulnerable and hands are tied and they cannot destroy the enemy actually. there is no underlying, sustainable mission and when they ask for troops they get they are doing the best for what they have but they are demoralized.

you have to keep training and you cannot give it all up and allow the entire place to become a breeding grund for jihadist. we have lost a lot of ground. >> i pray for whoever we leave behind. it is more vulnerable. >> now to the islamic state savages who are launching a new strategy to expand their caliphate into the middle east and into the future. it is a baby boom. the terror army is reportedly urging members and their brides to have as many children as possible in order to insure they will have a new generation of believers. they are boosting about nursing schools and a pediatric facilities and issuing birth certificates to show they are a professional organization. this isn't the first time isis has hoped to use children to enhance their propaganda.

that group is known for making small boys their soldiers. >> i think this is awful but i think it is because of us not enforcing the sofa agreement. we left a vacuum, isis took it over, and they are not going to stop. it is a caliphate. they want the entire middle east and they will not stop. they will just get stronger. unless we realize that and put in enough forces, not piece mme it, but bring in forces and anilite them and more people will be raped and beheaded. >> there is a theme here. there is a theme. it is called i cannot commit from this white house. i cannot commit. i cannot figure out if i want to a full toe or half toe. >> what is the strategy? >> if you want to defeat isis you take stacy's point. we go in with hundreds of

thousands of troops, you go into syria, you go into the libya, you go into the iraq, you potentially maybe go into the parts of turkey because isis will be there, but the american need to know you are committed to an open war that will probably last longer than vietnam and will more people, and i don't think this country has the appetite to do it. >> it depends on what russia is doing. i have said this many times. the russians are taking a monumental mistake by going into the syria. god bless vladimer putin. he is putting a bullet to his own head by doing this. >> you know what? if leadership consist of doing the wrong thing for your country, he is a great leader. >> here is the problem with that thinking. sooner or later we have to go in

and finish what got started. >> to julie's point, it is one thing you have have a commander and chief who identified an enemy and plan to go in and wipe them out and leave. i think the american people may get behind that. but personally i don't want obama stumbling into a war. i would rather wait for a commander and chief who is committed to defending the enemy and leaving. no more democracy promotion in the middle east. it is not realistic and doesn't work. >> if the president isn't committed to any war anywhere and he is watching netflix and golfing great. as far as vladimer putin? let him kill isis. the only reason he didn't knock out isis and people are saying he is not interested in isis, of course he is. isis is not the direct threat to damascus now. he will start knocking them out. let him do it. we should ask how can we help. >> the isis babies, they are

playing a long game and trying to establish a caliphate. if they are having ten kids and we are having two that is how they see the world. >> you know what? i want to point this out because of the way they treat women just in that part of the world but particularly the islamic state savages. these women are not brides. there is new details about the money flowing in the clinton charity and the access the donor doctors could get you. what the donors expected from hillary clinton at the time and a newspaper went digging. what it found next.

new details about the latest release of the thousands of clinton e-mails released. the washington post dug through them and found big donors got special interest from hillary clinton as secretary of state. nowhere in the e-mail does it show policy changes were made to benefit them but the paper shows people like bill gates and others gained high level access to president their policy concerns inside the state department. this is from a fashion expert who contributed more than $10 million for hillary clinton. the aid e-mailed her saying she,

meaning, hillary is thrilled and wants it to be wonderful for you. i will go out in a few weeks and plan with her but wanted you to know. i scratch your back, you scratch mine, harris. it looks very shady. >> with both hands. >> we know there was a lot of this going on at the state department. >> now the problem is looking at who got what. we really have to know that better than every before. fashion is not on the high list of national security concerns. although, i have seen recent crimes committed. we need to know that. it is not knowing what we expected. we need to know what they thought. this makes you want to dig further. this has nothing to do with benghazi. you could form a committee on this alone i would imagine just to get answers if you think something happened. >> if you read into the report, there is millions of dollars

being given and then after he is securing a meeting for government funding for an american university in central asia. the timing of this, and that was in the clinton cash book, projects were given in nordic countries based on how much was given to the clinton campaign. it is sketchy. >> there is obviously quid pro quo. it just hasn't happened. god only knows why else she has this going with. we will not know. if she is voted president, god help us, we cannot trust her. this is another example of her not being transparent as she said she is very transparent which is a complete lie. i almost laughed byself to death when she said that. -- myself -- she is a sociopathic liar, one after another. >> every administration does this. she is no different people are saying. >> i am laughing because it is true.

it is not a defense. i am shocked there is gambling going on. you worked in politics, andrea, you know this. you give a couple thousands and you go to the private session, with the candidates, and press her case like the guy doesn't on the street get to. this is how politics and money work. >> this is very different. this is giant sums of money. and a lot of the deals were happening on an illegal stage. >> you read there is no evidence she did any special favors for anybody. >> wait second -- >> give me evidence. >> if there is nothing to hide -- >> andrea, she may have killed the loom berg baby but we don't know because of the e-mails >> if there was nothing to hide why did she delete 30,000

e-mails >> thank goodness she is not the champion fighting against income equality. oh, wait, she is. unite people's frustration about the cronism of the elites. >> they were dead broke, harris. >> dead to right. >> i do want to hit your point on this. this was not just $2,000. they were not little bills they were trading. my issue with all of this is the bigger the amount of money the more influence you expect to get. that is like anything else. look at what you buy in life. the more you pay, the more you expect in return.

what is the line of demarcation. if you gave below a certain amount you get access to new shoes >> if you gave bubba certain amount would you get -- >> i hate to be the grim reaper and ruining everybody's perfect scenario of what happens in washington this went on way before the clinton's appeared on the scene and it will go on. everybody mastered it. i am sorry, whoever the next republican -- you have think jeb bush doesn't get special favors? >> they don't have to -- all right. what is the fate of this ten commandments monument in

oklahoma city that has been so controversial? we will tell you and debate it next.

the latest frown in the fight over fate. the workers working to take town the ten commandment monument in oklahoma city last night. it sparked controversy since being installed in 2012. the state supreme court ruled it was a religion symbol and violated the constitutional ban on using public property to benefit religion. mike reynolds, who opposes the removal, says we know we have to change the state constitution. it would be good to get rid of some of the supreme court justice, too. the monument is going to be installed outside of a private, conservative think tank. harris, you said you saw this

last night and it caught your eye. >> i remember, somebody drove and knocked the first down one, right? so they had to erect another. this kind of came on the radar, remember it was a baptist minister who filled the lawsuit against this. i never understood that. i did more digging and he sees the religion as a private affair and said one of the first s sermons was about the ten commandments. are preachers evangelical? it seemed counter intuitive the minister would be like this. >> these are religion men who believe in the ten commandments and saw the principles as fundamental to how republicans per -- display themselves.

why are we removing this? >> because you are endorsing religion >> we are recognizing the historical significance. >> this is violation of separation of church and state. wait a second. you have, no it is. >> is separation of church of state in the constitution? >> i believe it is. >> if you believe it it is in the constitution -- >> we don't endorse any specific religion and the ten commands endorse the christian release. if you are a another religion you don't woo belief in the tep commandme commandments. >> people came to flee persecution and they understood -- >> wait a second.

which part of the constitution endorses the judeo christian religion? >> we don't. >> then why would we endorse this on the government property? >> on every dollar bill in this country it says in god we trust. why is that? because our founding fathers founded the country on judeo christian principles. >> that is not why. we put in god we trust as the national motto, not because of the founding fathers, but in the '50s because god was communist and mccarthy had had -- the part of it. our founding father never said we need judeo christian

principles. >> washington's first address talked about how a republic that loses its faith -- >> not the judeo christian faith. you are endorsing a specific religion. >> i want pop corn. >> finally a fight i am not in. >> it as a fight going on across the country. >> happy to be a christian. >> america's first family, the obama's right? not so fast a. major magazine running a cover story calling this our country's first family. who they are and why it has a lot of people outraged.

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first we go to jenna lee on what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> south carolina's governor is hoding a news conference on the historic flooding in her state saying 14 have died due to the

waters and the governor is urging residents to watch the roads. we will have an undate on that. and aids to vice president joe biden are disputing reports that joe biden said "the new york times" story of his death bed wish. and a big corruption case unveiled by the new york attorney general who is accusing the former president of the u.n.of being involved in a massive bribery ring. >> we cannot wait. always good to see you. >> america's first family. you know them as the president, the first lady and their two daughters. but not if you ask cosmopolitan. it is calling the kardashian's american's first family. and some americans are not impressed. this is america's first family?

i canceled my subscription today. cosmo replied with the comment we are teasing but if kayne runs for president it might change. i would rather they put the simpson's on the cover of cosmo. did we forget why they are a famous family? >> i am a fan. >> really, harrison? really? >> i am -- have we forgotten why kim kardashian was famous? >> sex tape! >> she has done a lot for charity and over the years but when did we get to the point where popilarity lapopurulul --

>> cosmo is a sex magazine and the kardashian's are the first family of sex. so i get their point and culturally they have more power than the obama's with more twitter followers. i am disappointed in one thing. the entire household, the only one who did work, isn't even on the cover. that is the only thing i cannot believe. >> remember when hillary clinton was at the beginning of rebranding her career who did she take a selfie with? kim kardashian. >> i agree. >> when are these people going away i said? i am the last stage of grief for these people. i came to acceptance. >> which family?

>> the kardashian's. first i struggled, then angry, and these people will haunt me and one day a thousand years from now, scientist will assume the kardashians and all you will see it is the big hair. >> there is a point culturally where we are. instead of focusing on the issues we are focused on kim kardashian's butt. >> we have been focusing for years on that. it is a symptom of rock. name me a medal of honor recipient from the couch from afghanistan and iraq. most people can't. but we can name what they ate for breakfast. i don't care if they use the first family name but the

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science is confirming what we all suspected. that the 20s are the happiest years of your life. once you hit 24 it is down hill and the highest levels of happiness reported from 15-24 and again after 75 years old. money and job worries are to blame for misery in our middle age which i disagree with. we covered this story a year and a half ago on the five and they said 35 was the perfect age and i agree. i think it keeps getting better. i love my 20s. but the drinks, restaurant and

clothes get better. >> i am married so i will not be able to sample much of what you listed. but 75 is interesting because the latest statistics show we don't live beyond that point. >> happy and then you croak? >> bummer. >> i am wondering if it is because you learn later in life that life is short. at 75 you are like i don't have a lot left. >> maybe you don't care. >> we are talking about it before the show. 74-75. that is my point. >> 74 is when i get to rest and say whatever comes to mind and let it out. >> your opinion is your own. in life, you can say what you want. i think i will selfishly say i had my third little boy. rex is at home. so my wife is outnumbered. >> t-rex? >> no, rex. i took the kids on a hike. it is fun. it is a different kind of fun.

>> when you are 75 they will have to push you. >> i love my son. what do you think? >> i think my life is getting better. i would never want to be in my 20s again. i love life now and i think it is getting better and better. >> i love that attitude. >> and by the way, 15? who is happy at are 15? i don't know any girls happy at that time. >> the best experience you get as a woman is to be comfortable in your own skin. >> and the men get much better after 30. >> you keep saying that. >> we mean it. >> i am loving my 40s. 30s were great. >> and they are loving you back. >> one thing i want back from my 20s -- that matabolism.

>> we will see you back at noon eastern tomorrow and for now "happening now." the justice department setting 6000 federal prisoners free by the end of the month in a one- time large release in history. >> are these prisoners dangerous? we'll cover all of the news happening now. >> i believe that all of the people running, no one has a better understanding of the national security issues that we face than i do. >> marco rubio speaks out. >> if you have a well designed plan you will win more than you use. >> we'll go behind the scenes with the florida senator. >> we return to them as a victim or witness. >> terrifying