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again, thanks for watching us tonight. ms. megyn is next. remember, the spin stops right here. we are definitely looking out for you. >> breaking tonight, a general election match-up between businessman don trump and former secretary of state. it was a big day for political news, starting with a new abc news poll showing donald trump dominating the gop field. he sits ten points ahead of his nearest competitor, dr. ben carson. but the really big news is that trump is now number one among republicans in two important categories. first, they think he is the candidate with the best chance to win the nomination. and, second, the candidate with the best chance to win the
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general election. the other big story today concerns the democratic ticket. and some of the best news mrs. hillary clinton could have hoped for. >> unfortunately, i believe we're out of time. the time necessary to mount a winning campaign for the nomination. >> and with vice president joe biden officially out, now 22 points ahead of her nearest competitor, the political analysts are starting to drill down on what it would mean if these two, donald trump and hillary clinton, are the last ones standing. joining me now, our fox news digital politics editor. former press secretary to george w. bush. let me start with you because on election night, you're part of the depths that crunched numbers. let's just start with a come
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parson between donald trump and mitt romney. when it comes to the minority vote. many said romney needed to have one more hispanic, in particular, he would be president of the united states right now. >> you could look at it in a bunch of ways. you could say mitt romney needed to do a lot better with hispanic voters. or he needed to do a lot better with white voters who, in that election, where i think 72% of the electorate. so, basically, for romney to have won, he would have needed to jack up his share of the white vote to levels greater than any republican candidate in the modern era or he would have had to have done substantially better. but he was stuck in between and got marooned and defeated by about 5 million votes. >> so trump will be looking to do something different, if he's the nominee. he needs to drive up his numbers
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with whites to historically unprecedented levels. or he needs to reach out to minorities. and the latest polls on that, on the minority numbers, show the following. look at this. so this is trump's favorability. it's 82% unfavorable, which tells you what? >> that he's got -- he dug himself a fairly big hole. one of the things that happened, do you remember when he used the phrase self deportation? that was one of the phrases that really hurt him they got 27% of the vote. they felt like he needed to get about 35% of the vote. because of the increases in population that chris is mentioning, donald truch or whoever the gop candidate is going to be would need about 40%. a note on the rapidly growing number of hispanics. do you know that every single month in america, 50,000
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hispanics turn 18 years old. it means that the voter registration with an 82% unfavorable, there's no doubt that donald trump has a lot of work to do. >> if you look at poll by poll, trump versus hillary clinton, he's head of match-ups, he wins some, she wins some. she beats him by a couple points, on average, she'll beat him in a general election. but what would be the main impediment to heroining against donald trump. >> the main impediment she would have would be against donald trump would be that he would be trying to steal plenty of liberal votes from her. his base is with self described liberal to moderate republicans. conservatives line up with ben carson. >> he's leading with conservatives when you break the
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polls down. he is leading with the conservatives. >> no question. but he has a set of views. he would have to rye to raid her white votes why she was simultaneously trying to get national security hawks off of him. it would be a terrible mess. but it would come down to this. it would be very confusing. you eve got undecided voters leftover. the key there would be how well he would do with white women. i don't think he could get his numbers up among minorities to su firntly come and say he'd have to do it with white women and he'd have a bigger problem there than people would realize. squl he's had some trouble with gop women. look at the numbers on women. we'll put them on the board. this is all women. not just gop. that's high. it's not guilty insurmountable.
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i think what's happening the last several months, you say you have a big event to go to. you need a dress to wear to the event, for the last several months, people have been walking by saying that might look good. so now they're about to take three-to-four outfits into the dressing room. they think could i see myself voting for a donald trump? there might be an increasing number that say yeah, he's going to try to persuade them. >> i think it's the whole hispanics that's even more difficult. republicans have been working for months. >> two years, a huge amount of effort. and the mexicans are rapists and the comments that he made back then which he not exactly apologized for, but he said that was taken out of context. that actually that stuck. >> and the illegal immigration policies have haurt him.
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>> immensely and that's one of the reasons why his numbers with were so high with the republican base. >> i think it would mostly be for trump a lost cause. he might do a lit better here, a little better there. when you come down to it, his only shot would be a historic, unprecedented increase among his share of white voters. he has to jack up the percentage of white voters. >> the white electorate is tlinging. it's down considerably from the electorate years. >> he'd have to reverse the trend, which is doable. then, again, with female voters, he would have to find a way to get female voters, moderate, independent or even democratic-leaning, white women away from hillary clinton p. and let me tell you something, she's going to be tough to beat. her poll numbers have con sol dated.
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and she is doing progressively better. provided she doesn't have catastrophic e-mail syndrome explosion. >> assuming sanders can't get it done, it's -- she may lock it up. but but she's got a major potential liability. and there ain't no back-up plan. unfortunately, i'm out, but if you need me. the the good news for donald trump, they actually like him better. also, tonight, dishonesty, politics and war. two politics caught blatantly misleading. >> do you believe they should stay on the ground in afghanistan? >> we made a materialen mistake getting involved in the first place. >> our question was about afghanistan. >> and mr. trump is not alone. vice president joe biden is also on the hot seat, not to mention hillary clinton.
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tonight, dishonesty, policy and war. two leading politicians. donald trump and vice president joe biden were caught this week misleading on their positions about war and the american military. first up, donald trump who touts himself as a straight talker. just yesterday, he told cnn that he supported the war in afghanistan and did not believe it was a mistake. that was news to the anchors who have heard exactly the opposite from mr. trump just two weeks ago. watch. >> let me just read to you what you said on october 6th about
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afghanistan. you said we made a terrible mistake getting involved in the first place. >> we made a mistake going into iraq. >> our question was about afghanistan. >> i never said that. okay, it wouldn't matter. >> what about afghanistan? do you believe that american boots would stay on the ground in afghanistan to stabilize a s situati situation? >> i wouldn't agree except for at some point, they're going to be there in the next 200 years. we made a terrible mistake going there in the first place. we had a group of brilliant thinkers who didn't know what they were doing. >> do you believe that american boots should stay on the ground in afghanistan? >> we made a terrible mistake going there in the first place. >> our question was about afghanistan. >> an obvious reversal. he is not the only one. vice president joe biden tried to investigate his history on
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the raid that killed osama bin laden. back in 2011, the president looked around the situation room and asked for his top advisor's opinions. what did joe biden say? depends on when you ask him. >> he walked out of the room and walked upstairs. i said -- i told him my opinion. that i thought he should go, but follow his own instincts. >> it's got to be, joe, what do you think? i said we owe the man a direct answer. mr. president, my selection is don't go. we had to do two more things to see if he's there. he walked out and said i'll give you my decision. >> here it is again. shorter. >> i told him my opinion that i thought he should go. >> i said, mr. president, my suggestion is don't go. >> so does this matter? a fox news contributor. he's now the ceo of concerned
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veterans for america. does it malter? >> megyn, it definitely matters. vice president biden, they say that victory has a hundred fathers. defeat is an orphan. when he said that yesterday, he was still considering whether he was going to run for president. he's going to be the guy who, in hindsight said mr. president, i believe he should do it, especially that he was on par with hillary clinton. this is rewriting history to make sure he's on the right side of the history. as far as donald trump, he is just flat out changing his position. and, frankly, i think falling into the narrative of the left, and he's done this time and time again on iraq, the whole thing is a disaster. he ignores the surge. he's so militaristic. he's got to be in afghanistan. but he wouldn't tear up the iran deal. it looks a lot like barack obama's foreign policy.
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he's been good on a lot of domestic stuff, but, internationally, i don't know where donald trump is. >> two weeks ago, he told the cnn anchors that it was a mistake to two in. it was two weeks, not two years. and then two weeks later, completely denied that he had ever said it. >> no, it's unacceptable. it shows a shallowness in the understanding of that region, the implication of words on the international stage. also, he said, you know, what are we going to be there? 200 years? that's very similar to what obama said to john mccain in 22008 about iraq. it's a strong man argument that doesn't look at the strategic ramifications of finishing wars properly. as a result, he evolved into the whole iraq war is a disaster. and then he realizes, that's not a great position. and then he tries to make us all pretend and say no, no, i didn't say that. that's not clarity. that's not leadership. it's waffling back and forth.
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>> and then you've got hillary clinton who, depending on who you ask, may or may not have done the same thing. listen to what she said about the bin laden raid versus what the vice president said about how it went down just yesterday. >> it was a really tough decision to advise on. we didn't have the smoking gub. i was one who recommended to the president that he go ahead. and his advisors were split. >> there were only two people who were definitive. and were absolutely certain. leon pinetta said go and bob gates has already publicly said this, said don't go. >> so now people are accusing her along with vice president joe biden of some sort of stolen glory. trying to get in on these decisions that sent men in that particular case into harm's way. and it worked out well, as you know.
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leadership. >> great to see you. thanks for being here. ? thank you. >> our next guest has a new book out on this very topic. two decorated former navy seal officers who led the most highly deck rayed special operations unit of the entire iraq war. they are the authors of extreme ownership, how u.s. navy seals lead and win. great to see you both. it's great timing on an incredible book. >> i just asked earlier, did i ever make mistakes in my career? absolutely. i made all kind of mistakes. when i did, i stepped up to the plate and said hey, this is my fault. what can we do to fix it?
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>> i actually feel embarrassed for them. it's just a complete lack of leadership and ownership. >> this is actually the number one characteristic of a number one leader. acknowledge your mistakes and then develop a plan to recognize reality and develop a plan thereafter. >> that's correct. if you can't own up to mistakes, if all you're doing is blaming and making excuses, then you're never going to develop that plan to overcome those challenges. i think what you saw there shows a lack of belief in the mission. that's also something that's really important for leaders. is that you believe in the greater strategic goal of what you're trying to accomplish. and that you can explain that, the why, to your troops. >> we've heard a lot of that about -- you know, not as much afghanistan, but a lot of second guessing on iraq saying it wasn't worth it. we should never have been in there. you guys fought there, you captured the city, what do you think? >> we absolutely believed in what we were doing.
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and, looking back, i know there was great sacrifices made. it actually sickens my heart to see the black side of isis flying over. but i know that what we were doing was the right thing to do. we were facing a pure evil enemy. and, on top of that, there's iraqi people who live in that sdi. they absolutely wasn't us there. >> i know in this boork, not only in this book, but in life, you teach guys and gals about leadership. so you 'married to our own beautiful jenna lee. you have a beautiful little baby boy, trace. how does this translate to families? if you take a look at ownership -- we actually had a
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meeting. >> now, do you do this up front? you're right, honey. i'm wrong again. >>. >> great to see you guys. dwen, if you guys just look at what they've done, they'll actually know what they're talking about. good to see you both. >> we actually have developments with the new york city police officer shot dead last night. the judge who released his kill other. and then, why are cow towns kansling halloween? yeah, schools. hall wean is now racist.
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thoer not alone. apparently, according to some, halloween is now racist. dana lash is the host of "dana" and a big fan of the holiday, unbeknownst to us. so, dana, they say the little cup cakes cannot be allowed because it's offensive to the school's diverse student body. and you say? >> well, i'm sure it's really upsetting to the master chief and rainbow bright and all of the other fictitiousalties that are out there.
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my mom dressed me up as a drunk hobo. >> you would be booted right out of that school district in new jersey. this is a kind of segregation they cannot tolerate. therefore, in the interest of being inclusive of everyone, no one may celebrate halloween. >> these are adults that are pushing their a boring adult life baggage on these kids and ruining that you are halloween. frt and like the really bad honey bee candy. >> can't you do it door-to-door halloween night? >> this is their holiday.
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>> that's like the bernie sanders. here's the thing, it's not just a school district in new jersey. there was also one in connecticut. they said the same thing, respect for diversity. the goal is for all children to feel comfortable. what about the 80 pnt who are really enjoying it? exactly, and i don't know what's wrong with those 20%. that's not skin off of our backs. if people are upset that it's an 80/20 situation, they need to re-evaluate the plierties in their lives. not only that, the parents said why don't you offer another activity for the 20% who don't want to two to the halloween parade. why did the 80% have to give up something that's been a tradition in this country for a long, long time. but that is not how they felt in new jersey or connecticut. so we'll see. we'll continue to follow it. by the way, the same school in
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new jersey, they are allowing harvest festival, turkey trot, for their fun night. good luck getting 80 pnts participation in that. good to see you. >> we were forced to do the square dancing. did you ever have to do it? yeah, right. very awkward. you had to touch other students and run up charges. also, tonight, we are now just 12 hours away from former secretary of state hillary clinton, testifying before the benghazi committee. her camp contends the questioning will be highly partisan, but one veteran who knew one of the four men killed in benghazi tells a very different story. he joins us next. and we have live pictures, look at this, of the empire state building here in new york city tonight, bathed in blue for the police officer killed last night at just age 33. and now the judge who released his killer is defending the decision.
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it's now roughly 12 hours until mrs. clinton began. >> i still want to know -- i saw on tv, these bloody finger prints on the walls over there. i asked specifically, are those my son's finger printss crawling down the wall, the bloody fingerprints. nobody ever got back to me on that. are those his fingerprints? were those his fingerprints? what happened? >> joining me now, a woman who had the chance to question mrs. clinton tomorrow. great to see you tonight. thank you for being here. >> is the plan to get into specifics like that? the last time around, it was a lot of grand standing. >> well, first and foremost, we need to stay with calm. unfortunately, a lot of dragging of feet and stone walling by the state department and others is taking us a long time to get here. of course, our hearts go out to the families whom we've met with
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of the victims, the four americans who unless anily lost their lives. that's the charge of this committee. this committee was charged to find the truth. we're on a fact-finding mission to -- >> but, to my point, is that going to happen? the lags time, what we saw is a plot of puckery on camera. >> this is the first time he's had the opportunity to speak to secretary clinton. and, of course, we also now have information that we didn't have in the past. everyone though it took a really long time to get it, we now have documents to ask questions dha will fill in the missing pieces. secretary clinton, this investigation is not about her. she's just a small piece of it. an important piece, but a piece of it. >> dif i having up all the questions to those on the committee that are most adept
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like the former prosecutors, for example? >> we certainly had interest based on our experiences. but, you know, the questions are for her to have an opportunity to be forthright with the committee, to show us candor, to answer our questions so that we can have a report that is complete. on behalf of these four americans. this is a fact-finding mission. she was secretary of state at the time. it's incumbent upon her to answer the questions that relate to her role. >> that's the bottom line. >> we'll be watching, congressman. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much for having me. >> joining me now, brandon west, a former navy seal and a close friend who was murdered. he's also in the book among heroes. he's also here, a white house
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senior advisor. thank you both for being here. brandon, what specifically are you go inc. to be looking for tomorrow? >> the question question i have for hillary is why didn't she pod them accountening. all the teft points to their nejly testimony: and nobody's held accountable? as a navy seal, one of the first things we learn about leadership is holding yourself acountable. and holding your sub oshs gnats accountable. i hont -- so your position is not necessary lid ril hi shouldn't have known everything, but she is responsible and she didn't do everything. >> i understand her role as secretary of state she is not enrolled in day-to-day operation. but clearly, kennedy and charlie
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lamb, were. that is the same guy whoa is overseeing her e-mails. >> a guy that also held stephens' laptop. so there's a clear case of a lack of democratic ability across the board. including the one that she has previously chaired. you can reopen the case. she did not produce her e-mails. >> i think all of that materi
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material -- but not iii her, right? >> all of her e-mails were withheld. >> so let else just take a step back here. the congress mom said this is not about her. so shrill, her tome mope is going to >> so i heard the house ma the ma. >> actually think that the american people know that this is not an effort to find out what happened in ben. >> how can you say that in liekt of what we just saw. and also, brendan. >> and hillary clinton lost a very clos friend. you don't think she mourns for the am bas xx abds we all do?
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i want to say thank you kbr your but it's the tragedy that effected all of us. she was in charge. >> there's talk and then there's action. i could listen and the fact is, one of the issues that came up from all the i aengs, there's always 50 families who have not been ben phil. here, his family goes to the li nlt >> r. >> and at the oeft add someday u. >> and he's got too hrkt and
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he kept telling police his name was juan gonzalez until facial recognize confirmed he was tion howard, a career trillion who was supposed to be sent to prison. tow, the judge defended that damage. he had four felony drug convictions, no violence. except it turns tyrone howard had been arrested 128 times, jailed the times not just for drugs, but for assault and robbery. and in 2009, he was arrested in connection with a shooting that injured three people including 7 and 11-year-old boy. listen. >> it would be this guy. he's a poster boy for not being diverted. so the district attorney's office, look into the circumstances of that diverse.
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>> he failed to complete his drug diverse version program. how ard's attorney lobbied for his client to be sent to drug rehab saying prison would be hard on his two kid. not nearly as hard as it is now be aers holder's wife. >> there are not only questions about this judge's decision, but the on going reforms to the u.s. justice system that are setting thousands of convicted krms across the street. mark furhman is a fox news con trip xx. gary is a former commissioner of the nyd. >> bernie, let me start with you. spent some time in prison. yip ooir in support of these forms to let some of these drug offenders out early and so sort oaf give them a second chance.
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but you look at the situation that you had with aufrsz holder, and you think is it such a good idea? here's the thing. one, i'm talking about first-time, nonviolent offenders. this is a very different story. this guy is 28 times arrested and somebody said there was no violence. there actually would you describe violence. there the guy's background. >> just arrests, though, not convictions. for violent imkroos. >> but you know what, how many times have you got toe black lives arrested. i think it was rnk. iny smnd shoild xiv been looking at this guy. and as the commissioner vad today, who is he still doing on if tlstreet. >> they said they couldn't find him. the ada wanted a letter for six years.
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they sdd for special treatment saying it would have minnesota leaf tough for the young woman. >> well, megyn, when you understand the career criminal, their whole life is about lying and manipulating the authorities to stay on the street. the commissioner is abshutly correct. the drug day version program, since they were started in the 70s to get them rehabilitated and back into the looifrly hood. back into the mainstream. they're not for violent, career criminals. this judge is a fool. he's an idiot. he had a probation rer report. he had a yap sheet. he knew everything this man is getting inc. voefled. in. if you're arrested 228 full-times, you will you eve committed 200 or 2300 crimes to be able to get that lucky. 28 times.
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>> you know, commissioner, this murder understood scores the to the best of my knowledge ifr 245 is ig noered pill so 34 bep they asays the silgts bagss. >> nobody knows know, i was wit of the lapd today, the superintendent of chicago, we're all here talking about reform issues. there's 130 law enforcement leaders around the country here in washington, d.c., talking about this, but the number one thing that came up in this meeting was the job that they have to do, that cops have to do on a daily basis. go out and put their lives on the line. go out and run into gunfire when others run away. and yet we still -- they still get criticized and they're still bashed, you know, by people out there, critics. it's a shame. and this death is a shame. >> guys, thank you both so much. we appreciate seeing you. >> thank you. up next, a day nearly 30 years in the making. ♪ i built my business with passion.
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well, the day "back to future" fans have been waiting for has finally arrived. in the second installment marty mcfly travels to october 21st, 2015. how does the future of hoverboards held up to reality? trace gallagher knows. >> the best way to do this is give you a side buy side look of the things they came across and the things we truly have today. drone, in "back to the future" they did everything from walk the dog to capture news video. ours don't walk dogs but they're prevalent enough that laws can't keep up with them. the film predicted that wireless devices could be used to pay for things like cab fare.
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they never dreamed of uber, but electronics payments was spot on. remember marty's future self getting fired during a video phone call? now we have facetime and skype. they dreamed up future facebook where details, occupation and political leanings are all shared electronically. then there's the video glasses. you know, where marty and jennifer's future kids ignore their families watching tv on those electronic glasses. google glass isn't exactly lighting the world on fire today but they do exist. you can also make the argument that we kind of have self-lacing shoes because nike is now working on perfecting them. and that we also have hoverboards. problem is they're just called hoverboards. they don't exactly hover off the ground. they have wheels. and the movie predicted that for the first time in 107 years, the chicago cubs would win the world series in 2015. the cubs still have a shot, but boy, it ain't looking good. >> there's always hope. trace, great to see you.
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she's lying. she's absolutely lying. >> patricia smith, the mother of sean smith, killed in benghazi, is our guest tomorrow night. don't miss that. here's a question for you. do you believe the committee will stand the day tomorrow grandstanding or asking real questions to mrs. clinton? let us know at facebook.com/the
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