they're still part of the team. they're just somewhere else right now. we'll link up again some right now, on justice. >> i want not just the committee members but the public to understand this was the fog of war. >> hillary, you are the one putting americans in a fog after your 11 hour politicalcal pivot and washington. i was there and saw it firsthand. plus, why are illegal ale leans who are criminals getting a pass from people who supposedly represent us? how do we stop this lun's? i get answers tonight. plus, they march against police within days of a new york

city cop shot and killed. who are these people? >> some people call it a war cops. >> tonight, i sit down with former nypd top cop ray kelly. "js" starts now. first to breaking news. four people, including a 2-year-old baby are dead tonight. and more than 30 injured after a car plowed into a crowd at oklahoma state university's homecoming parade. hello, and welcome to justice. i'm judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us. we go live to still water oklahoma for details on this story. >> reporter: we have updated numbers for you. all along police said 34 people totalled were hurt in this incident this morning. we are getting word that number stands now at 44. out of that number, eight said to be critical tonight. nine in serious condition.

and patients are scattered all over, some being treated at the medical center in still water behind me. some of the more serious air lifted out of here to hospitals in nearby tulsa and oklahoma city. three people died at the scene, and a short time ago we got the sad word that a fourth victim, a 2-year-old boy, passed away hours ago at the hospital in oklahoma city. investigators say in the middle of this joyous and annual event leading up to oklahoma state's big homecoming came today hundreds of people lining the streets for an annual parade, cheering on their home team when cops say 25-year-old adasha chambers drove her sedan through a barricade slamming into a crowd of spectators. police say she has been charged with

eyewitnesses report seeing bodies flying through the air like rag dolls. today's homecoming game against kansas did go on despite today's tragedy just before kick off. the flag at the stadium lowered to half staff. then after running onto the field prior to the game most of the oklahoma state players getting on one knee to pray in a moment of silence. a very powerful image out on the field. if there is any kind of silver lining in this community tonight, the game ended 58-10, osu won in light of the >> thanks so much. joining me now by phone witnessed the horrific crash in oklahoma. konda? >> yes. >> tell us what you saw today. >> i was at the event with my sister and we came from out of town for the event. we were

they had 600 requests for security were made and leave him there and everyone in the neighborhood flew the coop. when asked why she did not tell the truth -- >> if you tell the truth like you did with your family and the libyan president and the egyptian prime minister, it's a terrorist attack. you picked the video narrative. you picked the with no evidence. you did it because libya was supposed to be and he pointed out this great success story for the obama white house and the clinton state department. >> instead of answering why, hillary said this. >> i wrote a whole chapter about this in my book, hard choices. i would be glad to send it to you, congressman. i think the insinuations that

you are making do a great disservice to the hard work that people in the state department, the intelligence community and the defense department and the white house did during the course of very confusing and difficult days. >> confusing and difficult days? there is nothing confusing. within minutes of your telling us that it was a video, you e-mail your daughter and her it was an al qaeda-like attack. there was no confusion with the libyan president and egyptian prime minister. you said "we know that the attack in libya had nothing to do with it film. it was a planned attack, not a protest." hillary, besides noting us the truth and not being honest with the families of four dead americans, you pivot and talk about how the questions of grave disservice to the people of the

department and the intelligence community? how does that answer the question? we know why you didn't do the sunday morning talk shows and we know why you didn't want people to see your e-mails. you allowed the proliferation of this false narrative as you watch susan rice on the sunday talk shows with the video. if it was a planned protest and not a video, why did you use our money to apologize in an ad to the arab world as if they need an apology. they hate us. i want my money back. you wrote about it in your book? hillary, i shouldn't have to buy your book to get a straight answer. and number three, when asked if you answer the review tort accountable, there was no transcript of witness interviews. when the coach actually recommended that they not send a

state department employee to congress, her response? >> i called that witness. >> i don't care what you say about me. it doesn't bother me. i will not sit here and hear what you say about admiral mullen. i'm sorry that the important work done boy that board is held in such low regard by members of the committee and i regret it. >> did you hear an answer to the question? i didn't. >> now we know they lied to us. the narrative was on the run and they had to keep up the narrative. the head of the fbi said "i'm following this very closely and getting briefed on it

regularly." hillary, the washington two step may have worked at that hearing, but it will not work with fbi director. that's my open. me what you think on my facebook page or twitter #judge janine. with me now is liberal radio talk show host. cocoa, nice to have you in studios. thank you for being here. >> i disagree with every word. >> you don't think she did a good job. >> that's what i said. she also told the truth and she was clear and candid and mature. >> she should be an adult. she is how old? the people, we are not so adult. you saying they shouldn't have questioned her and we should try to find out what happened? >> of course they should

question her, but she has been questioned several times already. they are training four people in iraq. that's okay. four million will find out what happened. we know they didn't tell us the truth. that's what got this started. the intelligence committee said she made up a video and said with the libyans and the daughter was al qaeda. it is not clear to anybody who looked at this and influence on the crime. >> is she a liar? you can't have that.

>> and she is in the throws of trying to save that. what did that have to do with libya. >> she is talking to everybody and get resources and got some. >> why didn't they let the guys come in and why did it take so long from the consulate. >> it took so long to get there. she had a planned attack. >> we didn't know that. she said it was a product of that video, she said we are looking into we are defining

politics where they said the leaders can lie to you. >> it's one thing to tell the people close to you and close to the prime minister. she knew the facts before they existed. that was what she was determining. i don't think any of this matters. >> there was an attack a& that was not the request for security. what do you mean? >> we got 600 requests. they were lying? >> the ambassador. >> you saying they were lying? >> i'm saying that.

the ambassador did not kindle it. he did not. he reached out to the security department in the state department and he knew. >> you're wrong. they are telling me we have to go. we couldn't disagree more. >> good to be here. >> you are the director of this watch dog group with the accountability and say it's nonpartisan. it's nonpartisan. >> we are an equal opportunity employer. >> you are a former united

states attorney. jim coaly said he is listening a and. >> this is one i'm following closely and getting briefed on regularly. we have the people and the resources to do it. what does that tell you. for him to say that. >> jim coleman was the deputy attorney general. i know the director called me and he's a good man. what it tells me is he is watching very carefully to what is happening. he knows that they are stored outside of the government system. that was violated and he knows potentially classified information is being shared with people in the clinton foundation and possibly with sydney blumenthal. the fbi is the proper

investigator as it relates to this committee. we saw a professional witness with easy questioning that i think a prosecutor and fbi agent can do a better job of. . >> i wish it were a judge in that room. i have long believed that that server that she was on. it was for the purpose of keeping the government out and she set it up right after she got approval from the senate. i think that it was to raise money for the foundation and for her husband and the speeches. how is that going to be interpreted by the justice department if at all? >> the justice department is going to want to know exactly whatted the relationship is between hillary clinton and the

secretary of state and the money flowing back and forth when the state department will take official action and the clinton foundation would receive a large and sizable donation. they're going to be looking at all these things. cheryl mills is very key to this entire situation. they also operated on the secret server. cheryl mills deleted all of her e-mails recently and the only explanation for this secret server was to communicate outside of the systems which were subject and have the first cut at production when they had to be turned over. >> thanks very much for being with us this evening. i'm not done yet. we will talk with benghazi

member in a moment. an anti-police rally in new york city just days after cops here shot and killed by a career criminal. you are kidding me, right? tonight ray kelly

fireworks between hillary clinton and my next guest. when she couldn't answer the question of why nobody had been fired over the benghazi massacre. with me now, congressman mike, good evening, congressman. do you think she answered questions directly? >> that was a tremendous amount of theater. there were reports that she won the day and that missed the entire point. to develop a back set and we can answer questions to make sure they never get four americans killed. i think we got some of that and we didn't have a referee. there was no judge. i think the facts and i heard for the first time there were 600 requests for security from

the team in benghazi. we had never heard that before. how could she not on the anniversary of 9/11 when she is responsible for the personal security of the ambassadors and not create more protection where people are working in a danger zone. >> leaders are tasked with leading and she tried to blame everyone but herself for the fact that folks on the ground a very dangerous place. they were not able to get a message through while they didn't know a dinner thing about it. she set that up. we were able to lay out all 600 requests and why on earth it was the case that she barricaded herself in a way that the messages would never get through to her. >> they said ambassador stevens and i were in the room.

she said he was a great expert and she saw his advice on messaging. why didn't she listen to him when he asked for help? >> that's a great question. they wrote in the "new york times" the same question that i asked. he knew more about libya than anyone else. she rejected all of the requests. we still don't have all of the documentation including his e-mail. we are hoping to get that as soon as we can. we have work to do, but i'm hopeful to get it written completely and share with the american people our recommendations how to make sure it never happens again. >> congressman, thanks so much for being with us.

>> have a good evening. >> you too. >> next i talk to ray kelly about the targeting of police officers in america. plus, a move to get rid powerfu

it will come in the overnight hours. now back to justice with judge janine. >> senate democrats block a bill and with me now the policy director on the center for immigration studies, jessica vaughn. why do we even need sanctuary cities as a federal law allows an illegal to stay here if there is a victim of a crime. >> we don't need them. the purpose of the sanctuaries is not to make immigrants more

comfortable. they will obstruct them from doing its job. the politicians don't agree with the immigration laws that we have. >> clearly they don't need them. when there were crimes involving illegals and they get to stay here and cooperate. let's talk about this bill that the senate democrats voted down. you have a five-year minimum of those who are illegal after committing two aggravated felony crimes or if there two reentries. what's wrong with that? >> i certainly don't object to the policies, but you know the reality is that if nobody can

prosecute an illegal alien up to deportation, if they can't get custody to begin with, they keep releasing them back to the streets. we need to find a way to better deter them from coming back here. >> how do we do that? >> i think the government needs to crack down and keep them from doing it. they can give immunity to the 90% of sheriffs and police chiefs who are complying with federal law and happy to do it. they know of the public safety benefits. >> clearly. >> i want to talk to you about a congressman in texas. his name is castro. he he is introducing a bill to ban the term illegal aliens.

he wants to call them undocumented foreign nationals. are we crazy? jnt there a first amendment in this country? >> they never apply and they have plenty of documents. they are usually fraudulent. that term does not apply. this is just a frivolous attempt to distract attention from the real issues at hand. nobody should fay any attention. that's the future voters. >> that's frightening. it's all this pandering on issues where we are a country that prides ourselves on the freedom of speech. what happens? can anything be done about case law? >> i think so, yes.

if there leaders in congress who were willing to try, in the short-term what's going to happen is the crime toll will keep going. we are going to end up with some jurisdictions and they will feel emboldened to pass laws where they don't have them now. they will go in other directions and outlining them. the democrats handed the republicans an issue. >> jessic a i'm sorry. gotta go. thanks for being with us. >> an anti-police rally in new york just days after an nypd officer is shot and killed. this rally took place just blocks away from this building. earlier i sat down with former nypd commissioner and author of the new book, vigilance to talk about the war on police and local law enforcement fight

against terror. take a look at this. >> there's difficult, dangerous times. we had four police officers shot and killed intentionally in the line of duty in the last 11 months in new york city. s when you were police commission ther this very city, ten cops shot. what's going on? >> whether or not this is a trend, i think it's clear to say that there is an awful of talk directed at police officers throughout the war on cops. >> why now? what's going on now? >> some of it is a result of the ferguson effects. they had that at north charleston, north carolina. in the back, those sorts of videos are out there.

as a result there has been this movement against police. obviously you know from your background, i know the vast majority do great work. >> there is a sense between us and the society. all weekend long, the nationwide protest, which side are you on. we have this postcard of people who say the people are murdered by police. now it's time to justify their lives and we don't know what they were doing by killing cops. >> it's a dangerous time killing police officers. because of the internet and the media that reached a lot of these folks, it can stir up the animosity. >> what about isis? what about what you started? it made the nypd a two-headed

office. one counter terrorism and the other a normal law enforcement crime. is isis and the impact it is having, is it a reason why young people don't have hope or are people joining isis because they don't see any future and therefore they are willing to go kill cops and kill americans? >> i don't know if it translates into killing cops, but people who want to kill americans because of isis and because of their beliefs. isis is a movement and more than just a group of people on the ground. they work effectively on the internet. they are recruiting on the internet. we see thousands of young people from all over the world going to syria. you see hundreds from the u.s. going there. people ultimately give up their lives. >> what does it signal to you. we wanted to do well. young people today want to die

in a blaze of fire on an issue of isis and ji hard and things not a part of our culture. >> there is very little hope. >> what about the americans joining. we have seen people from somalia who come to the united states and go back there and basically commit to jihad and other young people from all over the country. we have over 300 million people and have strange individuals. what we are concerned about is coming back with a trade craft that can till people here. >> they illuminate the demographic and say it's profiling. they stopped stop and frisk. you had new york city a safe city, one of the safest and is not the safest large city in the country. crime is going up and homicides

are going up. the ri dukz and sometimes is going to result in increased violence and murders. it's not the be all and end-all. >> and your book, you have 50 years in law enforcement? is there law enforcement in your future? >> never say never. to be on guard and the world has changed.

talking about the 1993 bombing. it should have been a wake up call and we paid the price for the events of september 11th. we have to remain on guard. >> the commissioner is great to be with you tonight. >> good to be with you. >> it's one of the hottest selling books with riveting really life stories with on the spot decision making. meet the authors here, next. plus, vote in the poll. who is responsible for the anti-police sentiment that seems to be gaining momentum.

. >> whether it's in war or a ceo of a company. it's vital to particular. the coauthors and how they lead and win. the anniversary of 9-11, we don't have any military assets if you believe that. capable of getting to the ambassador. to really have no planning and

what to do to help them out is disturbing to me. >> you guys are navy s.e.a.l.s and the best of the best. you get called out to situations like this. i'm not saying you have the ambassador, but emergency situations. you guys are on call when you were ready to go on few hours notice. when we were overseas, we were ready to go in a minute if we have to. >> when this thing happened with benghazi, what did you think when they were saying that. we couldn't get there? time. does that ring true to you? >> to think that you are in the middle of a situation, you don't know how long it's going to last. if he was out leading the seal, if i called him and they were under fire, send us to help,

look at my watch and i'm not sure how long it's going to last. wrong answer. you can send them help. >> the guys in consulate. they said they were told not to come right away. to wait. they were trying to get the libyan assets. what would you have done. they did the best they could. they went over in a heroic fashion to render assistance. >> real quickly, the rules of engagement. how does the military feel about rules of engagement. are they being chipped away? >> as far as i'm concerned, rules of engagement shouldn't prohibit you from protecting yourself and your buddies and the mission. >> nobody tells you what to do. i can tell. >> he was my boss.

>> me about the book. >> extreme hardship is an attitude that you have to take ownership. there is no one to leader. you've got to own it all. everything that affects your mission, which, i mean, if you're talking about the benghazi situation, we had the exact opposite of that. if you don't do that, and if you don't take ownership, you can never change behavior and overcome challenges so you can fix those things, and actually win. >> so this book really crosses all disciplines, not just being a navy s.e.a.l., but, you know, in corporate america, you know, and in other places as well, that the ownership and taking responsibility. >> absolutely. honestly, i wish some of our politicians would read that book so they would take ownership. >> are you suggesting that at the hearing in washington the other day, there wasn't a showing of leadership? >> we see quite a few people trying to take ownership of that decision to get bin laden. you see all of a sudden

everybody made that decision, influenced the president. but no one wants to take ownership of the bad things when they happen. that's not good leadership at all. >> interesting. hillary clinton, is she a leader? >> not a good one, that's for sure. >> all right. jocko and leif, thank you for being with us, and thank you for

now for the results of tonight's instapoll. who's responsible for the anti-police sentiment that seems to be gaining momentum in our country? carrie said president obama, al sharpton, and i could go on and on. april says the police are at fault. police are sick of the brutality and the murders that are happening at the hands of police. hey, by the way, there are bad eggs in every profession. if one teacher is a pedophile, does that mean we should rail against all teachers? no. they should be accountable, and they should be prosecuted for what they've done. but you don't go after the people who protect you. don't bother to c911. david says look no further than 1500 pennsylvania avenue for starters. then google george soros and follow the money. joe says look to the white house. it's been sparking a war on all that is right and taking the

side of evil to further its socialist agenda. marilyn says, we know who fosters this venom, de blasio, sharpton, president obama. my question, where does it all end? thanks for the great responses. i love reading what you think. make sure to logon and send your thoughts on tonight's show. check out my thoughts on all the news through the week. plus great behind-the-scenes photos. remember, you don't have to miss "justice," set your dvrs and tell your friends to do the same. write me on facebook, and follow me on twitter at judge jeanine, me on twitter at judge jeanine, next week. take the zantac it challenge! pill works fast?

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>> a heartbreaking homecoming for oklahoma state university after a woman slams into a crowd at the parade and killed at least three people. this is the "fox report." police arresting this woman and accusing her of driving under the influence. she say she drove into a crowd of spectators. take a look at the aftermath. a witness saying all she saw were bodies. flying. >> throw people were killed. at least 34 people were hurt. eight remain in critical condition. the university tweeting and i quote, "oklahoma state university is saddened by the tragic parade incident early this morning. our thoughts and prayersre