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and a dramatic video shows a daring raid to free hostages held by isis. lieutenant colonel oliver north is here with reaction. plus hillary gets a ringing endorsement from the one and only katy perry on the campaign trail. >> it's just time to roar what you need to fight for. >> "hannity" starts right here, right now. welcome to "hannity" tonight. donald trump continues to dominate the gop presidential field. a new associated press/gfk poll shows that a majority of republican voters think mr. trump is the most electable gop candidate. 71% saying he would win the general election if he becomes the republican nominee. dr. benjamin carson is close behind with 62%, indicating that he would win the white house if he ends up representing the party. 60% of republican voters also say they are confident jeb bush would become president 23 he prevails in the primaries. 54% said marco rubio would take

over as commander in chief if he were given the chance to run. trump's success has made him the target of criticism. he continues to push back against the attacks from his rivals. let's take a look. >> bush is out there. his campaign is a disaster. that's because i came along. i'm proud of it. so he's meeting now with mom and dad. no, it's true. he needs counsel. and he was very angry over the week. he said, you know, if this is going to be this nasty, let them have trump as their president. by the way, carson is lower energy than bush. i don't get it. i saw him being interviewed. he's lower energy than bush. >> rubio is controlled by his pac and he needs a lot of water on top of everything else. did you ever see a guy sweat like rubio? i've never seen anything like it. >> here with analysis, author of "a disgrace to the profession" mark steyn is back with us. look, i think it's funny. i listen to all of this. but when you listen to the comments of jeb bush this

weekend, he didn't seem like he was laughing too much, or even dr. carson. is it getting too close to the iowa primary they're taking this seriously? >> yeah, i think jeb didn't think he'd be in this position this close to iowa and new hampshire. the fact is that kind of whiny little case of rich boy petulance where he said, listen, i don't have to do this. i could be doing a hundred other way cooler things, well, this isn't a monarchy, he isn't the crown prince and he did have a choice about whether or not he wanted to do this. so to get on tv in front of a camera and do his you're not going to have jeb to kick around anymore routine, i think gets to the way he's -- trump is getting under his skin. and trump is actually quite effective at this. trump has basically run rings around him all summer. every time he says he's low energy and then jeb lashes out, trump goes now you're high

energy. i like that. he gets him talking about his brother for the whole of the autumn. now he's -- again, this remark about oh, now he's run back to mommy and daddy in texas to seek their advice because the big school yard bully is beating up on him. if he can't stand up to trump, does he have to go back to mommy and daddy when putin says no to him or when the ayatollah khamenei says death to trump. at the heart of trump's load grade insults is actually a very subtle strategy for undermining your opponent. >> it's interesting you say that. i had him on my radio show earlier today and lindsey graham lashed out of nowhere. he's 1% in the polls. i can't believe i'm losing to trump and carson. well, senator, believe it, because you are losing to them. i asked him specifically about jeb bush and he used the exact same lines you're using, what are you going to do when putin comes after you. >> right, right.

i think that's reasonably. i mean, the thing, lindsey graham feels he has a reason for running and he's running. he's got 1% of voters who agree with him. but jeb's rationale is that he's the electable guy, he's the front winner, he's the donor's choice. he's what the smart money in the republican party is bet on. and his numbers have tanked. and actually, realistically now jeb should not be in a debate with trump and carson. jeb should be moving down into the debate with lindsey graham and george pataki. this idea that -- jeb's whole rationale depended on his sense of inevitability, of the coronation, of the fact that it was his turn and he was the moderate guy who had across the aisle appeal. trump has blown that strategy apart. and the people that want the kind of moderate with just

enough appeal to independents to get you to 50.001%, they're going to start looking elsewhere unless he gives a really rollicking performance in this week's debate. and there's no evidence -- jeb bush hasn't fought a competitive election this century. >> before i play the comments he made on my radio show, to me this is like my martial arts training. and the bottom line is i'm either all in if i feel threatened or i'm all out. there's no in between. it seems that jeb has been trying to step his toe in and pull back, and he wants to get in, and he is really mad, and it sort of expresses itself in other ways. here's what trump said on the radio show about jeb bush. >> well then he went to see his mother and father because he wants advice. you know, that's not what the people want. when you're dealing with putin and you're dealing with all these people and killers and all the people you have to deal with, you know, you got to move quickly and you have to be nimble.

and i was surprised, a lot of people are surprised by that step. it's almost like he's getting out of the race, if you want to know the truth. >> almost the very thing you said, to me jeb's campaign needs to go all-in or just pull back and say we don't want this fight. >> also, you've got to be a happy warrior. you know, if you are going to be the moderate standbearer, the establishment standbearer, you've got to do it confidently and you've got to do it enthusiastically. and that's the trouble for him. you can't turn jeb bush into trump. but right now jeb bush is not very good at being jeb bush. he is supposed to be that guy who has moderate appeal. >> the guy that is coming in number two -- now, if you look at all the polls, we've had a lot of polls in the last week and a half. trump is winning every position nationally, he's killing everybody in new hampshire, south carolina and even the other states. the only exception to this is in

iowa. here's trump talking about dr. carson who is now leading there. >> i'm presbyterian. can you believe it? nobody believes i'm presbyterian. i'm presbyterian. i'm presbyterian! i'm presbyterian! boy, that's down the middle of the road, folks, in all fairness. i mean, seventh day adventist, i don't know about. i just don't know about. >> ben carson has asked for an apology, will you give it to him? >> i didn't say anything bad about it. i just don't know about it. i would certainly give an apology if i said something bad about it, but i didn't. all i said was i don't know about it. >> is iowa -- that's not really been a predictor in terms of who the nominee eventually will be. mike huckabee won, santorum won, >> right. >> do you think it is a different constituency, more evangelical voters, is that why dr. ben carson is winning there?

or perhaps is this a broader trend? >> no, realistically donald trump is a slightly awkward fit for iowa. he's the guy who said right at the site of his campaign that he's never felt the need to ask for god's mercy about anything he's ever done. he's made so many smart moves that god has trouble keeping up with donald trump, that's basically donald trump's line on god. and that might not necessarily be a great fit for iowa and ben carson might be better there. ben carson i think would have great difficulty winning in new hampshire and south carolina. so it might well be the case that this is where, as trump fades, iowa turns to ben carson, but that's the interesting point. we were told that when the trump bubble burst, all the senators and governors would still be standing and it would be a question of whether people preferred jeb bush or marco rubio or john kasich, and the fact is that when iowans took another look at donald trump,

they decided they quite liked ben carson. we've now got a huge bloc of republican voters who don't want anything to do with the senators and governors. >> last yes or no question. we're less than a hundred days from the iowa caucuses. can donald trump go all the way, in your view? >> yes, i think so. >> all right. >> i think that's what this poll shows, that actually people now -- and again, this is what the donor class is going to do to him. if he wins new hampshire and he wins south carolina, the amount of money that will be spent trying to destroy donald trump -- >> oh, i think it's going to come way before that. >> -- like nothing that has ever been seen. >> it's being telegraphed. >> nothing that has ever been seen. this is a different kind of election. >> all right. mark steyn, gad to see you, sir. thank you. 2016 republican candidates getting ready to square off in this week's debate. geraldo rivera and monica crowley are here with a preview. and then later tonight -- >> when i see murder and i cannot stand by and i have to

call the murdered the murdered and i have to call the murderers the murderers. >> >> quentin tarantino calling police murderers at an anti-cop rally in new york city. ray kelly and sheriff david clarke are here with reaction. that's all coming up later tonight. and also -- this is pretty disgusting comments as it relates to the rhetoric they're using and much more as we continue this edition of "hannity." e as we continue you can use whipped topping made with hydrogenated oil... ...but real joyful moments are shared over the real cream in reddi-wip. ♪ reddi-wip. (flourish spray noise) share the joy. share the joy.

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live from america's news headquarters, i'm kelly wright. good morning. the white house and congressional leaders reaching a budget deal. it would keep the government running for at least two more years, and raise the debt ceiling due to expire next week. a vote could come wednesday. but the gop might not be able to

convince its most conservative members to back the deal. the u.s. navy sending a ship within 12 nautical miles of disputed islands in the south china sea. it's an patient challenge to beijing's territorial claims. the white house wouldn't confirm details, but says ensuring freedom of navigation is critically important to a global economy. a warning for meat lovers. the world health organization now says bacon, ham, and hot dogs could cause cancer. the agency even puts the danger of processed meats in the same category as smoking. the north american meat institute calls the report alarming. i'm kelly wright. now back to "hannity." ♪ >> hi, welcome back to "hannity." on wednesday the republican presidential candidates will once again face off during a debate. who has the most to gain or lose in wednesday's showdown? here now fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera, fox news contributor monica crowley. you interest me because you love donald trump.

you love him personally. >> i love donald trump. >> but you can't stand his position on one issue -- >> one issue. >> immigration. >> i'm convinced that given time i can sway him my way. >> you believe that about everybody. >> you as well, but trump is so specific about immigration and he's so draconian about immigration, and he is so good on other issues. he is a guy that can win the election. >> why can't we just have people respect our laws and sovereignty? i'm for immigration, but legal. why is it so dramatic to say, mexico, if you go in that country illegally, they either put you in jail or they deport you. are they draconian? >> the problem is his language. the problem is he's gone to the extreme when it comes to his rhetoric. he's defended a whole race of people. and it's easy enough for him to back off and still have strong borders people not against strong borders. >> i had the governor of texas on my radio show today. 611,000 crimes were committed from 2008 to 2014 by illegal

immigrants against texans including murder and rape. 611,000 crimes. that is a huge amount in one state. >> i would submit that the vast majority of those crimes, with all due respect to the governor, the vast majority of those are immigration related. it's the crime of being here. it's the kime of returning. those are the crimes. there's crimes against texans in the general sense, but they're not rapes and murders and robberies generally speaking. >> i went to the border, monica, as you know, at least 10, 11, 12 times. i don't know the exact number. i saw the tunnels. i saw the drug houses. you know, floor to ceiling drugs being smuggled in to our country from the border. to me, it's simple. obey the law. come in legally. we should expedite the process, not make it so burdensome, bureaucratic. >> and look, the reason that donald trump's candidacy took off was because that was the first issue out of the gate for him. two reasons, one americans have a sense that they're losing control of their country. that their country is

disappearing and illegal immigration is the big reason for that. the other thing is that illegal immigration is essentially the only issue, sean, that has the potential to change the very nature of america. that's why people are responding to trump and what he has to say. as far as language, geraldo, a lot of americans think there is no more time for niceties there is no more time for diplomatic talk about these issues. you have to have a leader that will come out, tell it like it is and punch back and fix the problem. >> i don't think you can win the general election that way, monica. i think that to take a position that is so intentionally raw and insulting to 45 million american citizens who vote, i think is very dangerous politically. why not be a little bit more moderate in your language? why not? you can accomplish the same goal. he says nice things about latinos. and he's my friend, i'm his friend. >> i think there are a lot of people who traditionally vote democrat who hear his language and actually like what he is saying. you may be right about a big

bloc of the latino vote, but there are reagan democrats and blue collar workers who actually like what he is saying. immigration is threatening their livelihood. >> i have a question for you on immigration. lets say it's trump versus hillary. who you voting for? >> it depends on trump on immigration. he's my abortion. you have to understand that, sean. that's my litmus test. >> you're either -- so wait a minute, your litmus test is do you support illegal immigration -- >> no, my litmus test is reason and compassion and understanding. >> as defined by you. >> historic relationships. >> so you would vote for hillary. 60% of americans think hillary's a liar, dishonest and untrustworthy. do you think american people are wrong about her or right about her? >> mitt romney was the nicest guy. >> he was the nicest guy. >> i didn't ask you -- i asked about hillary. >> i thought he'd make a great president. i supported his economic -- he was against gay rights. >> you're never going to convince him to vote republican.

>> that's not true. >> i'm going to ask it one more time. 60% of americans think hillary is a liar, dishonest, untrustworthy, do you think those people are wrong? >> i think that 60% of those people -- i'm not sure where you're getting that statistic from. i think hillary clinton is on a roll right now. >> a one-week roll? >> a one-week roll. >> so is ben carson on a one-week roll. >> it's a long campaign. she's had a good week. >> wait a minute. i don't think it was such a good week. because it was exposed in the hearings that at the same time she's telling the american people that this was a spontaneous demonstration related to a youtube video she's telling her daughter and the president of libya, the prime minister of egypt that it's not related to a youtube video and terror-related. >> that's fair game. >> look, one of the reasons this has blown up, the e-mail scandal, the server scandal, benghazi last week, because we know the most problematic scandals for any politician running for office are the ones

that reinforce an already existing negative impression. >> do you think she's dishonest? do you personally think she is dishonest? >> i think she's a traditional politician. >> that's such a weak answer. that's a weak answer. >> i'm going to get another sentence in here. i think republicans have made a dire mistake in focusing on the wrong thing. in focusing on the night we lost our ambassador and trying to place blame in terms of the -- response of the united states military rather than concentrating on the spin, on the fact that she -- >> spin? can i ask you a question, is it possible for america to elect a person where 60% think they're dishonest and untrustworthy? is that possible? >> i think that it is entirely possible as we sit here tonight that hillary clinton will be the next president unless donald trump moderates on immigration and he is the only formal objector. >> you don't answer a single question. counselor, i object, your honor, its he's obfuscating the issue. >> i would say with hillary clinton, it's already baked into the cake that she's a serial liar. that's why i think republicans

should focus instead -- >> did you hear that, baked in the cake? >> that's why they should focus on the competency rather than the lying. people already think that about her. >> let them eat cake. oh, great. okay, maria. coming up next on "hannity" straight ahead. >> when i see murder, i cannot stand by, and i have to call the murdered the murdered. and i have to call the murderers the murderers. >> all right, left wing hollywood director quentin tarantino attended an anti-cop rally right here in new york city this past weekend. he called police murderers. former new york city police commissioner ray kelly is here with reaction to those pretty despicable comments. also, milwaukee county sheriff david clarke will weigh in on the war on cops. then u.s./kurdish forces rescuing hostages held by isis in iraq. dozens of lives were saved, but why is the administration downplaying our involvement in that raid?

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or more on car insurance. welcome back to "hannity." it's been less than a week since police officer randall holder was tragically gunned down by a career criminal. but over the weekend in a disgusting and tasteless move an anti-cop rally was held in new york city denouncing, quote, police brutality. liberal hollywood a-lister quentin tarantino spoke at the protest. listen is what he said. >> what am i doing here? i'm doing here because i'm a human being with conscience. when i see murder, i cannot stand by. and i have to call the murdered the murdered and i have to call the murderers the murderers. >> i thought a cop was killed. here with reaction the author of the brand-new book "vigilance," former nypd commissioner ray kelly. commissioner, good to see you here. how you? appreciate you being here. you did keep the city safe. murder rate i think before you took over was what, 2500 a year

and you brought it down to 500? >> it went down to 333 under the bloomberg administration. 245 in 1990. >> so it seems like a war on cops. it seems like it's open season on the people. the black lives matter movement literally chanting, pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon. the democrats are going to do a forum with this group. what are your thoughts? >> certainly that's a rhetorical war on cops. there's a lot of verbiage out there. we saw quentin tarantino, that was absolutely disgraceful. and clearly, cops feel at greater risk because of it, because of the rhetoric that is floating around. it's a dangerous job to begin with. we don't need that sort of talk out there. doesn't help anything. >> yeah. let me put up in a closed-door speech, the fbi director james comey actually indicated police are scared to do their jobs.

here's what he said. they told me we feel like we're under siege and we don't feel much like getting out of our cars. you still talk to the rank and file. you're so well respected in new york. is that what you're hearing? >> yes. i think jim comey is telling it like it is. clearly police officers are hesitating. they're not engaging in the way they engaged for the last two decades, quite frankly. that's why crime is down significantly throughout the country. but yeah, police are backing off now. anybody who denies that is just not facing reality. >> the mother of this officer made a plea to reinstate stop and frisk in new york. which the murder rate's gone up here, gone up in chicago, gone up in most other cities. but here's what the mother said. >> i think mayor de blasio should reconsider the stop and frisk because i think it's going to be a deterrent to these thugs who go around and taking innocent people's lives. >> yeah. police officers tell me that's just a lot more guns on the

street. obviously, stop, question and fris simplistic not the be all, end all. but it's certainly a deterrent as far as someone's willingness to carry a gun on the street. it's a valuable tool. it's constitutionally valid. it was validated by a supreme court case, terry versus ohio. it's codified virtually in every state in america, and yet the -- certainly in this city backed off tremendously. i think that puts all of us at risk. >> let me ask you one political question. i want to ask you through the prism of this minnesota march, black lives matter. pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. and then hear the president defend and the democratic party will have a forum with the black lives matter movement. let's first go back to what they said. this was in minneapolis. >> pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon, pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon. >> the reason that the

organizers used the phrase "black lives matters" was not because they were suggesting nobody else's lives matter. rather, what they were suggesting was if there is a specific problem that is happening in the african american community that's not happening in other communities. the african american community is not just making this up. and it's not just something being politicized. it's real. >> democratic candidates are saying -- they're asked the question, black lives matter, all lives matter, and they say black lives matter. don't asian lives matter? hispanic lives matter? white lives matter? i don't understand that answer, honestly. >> all lives matter. >> blue lives matter. >> cops' lives matter. >> of course. we showed that in the city. almost 9500 fewer murders than in the 12 years prior to the bloomberg administration. the vast majority of those lives saved were young men of color. black young men, quite frankly. that's who's being killed on the

streets of our city. >> thank you, commissioner. joining us now, sheriff david clarke and trial attorney eric guster join us. sheriff clarke, what do we want, dead cops? pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon. in the democratic party, i don't understand. try and help me understand. >> well, there's no way to understand this nonsense, first of all, sean. the claims made by tarantino, he's a limousine liberal. he's a one percenter, and the claims made by president obama that this is not based on emotion, it's real. it's just plain wrong. these claims are based on fiction. once you strip away the myth, the lie, the propaganda, all that remains is the facts, lies put out and repeated over and over again by the president of the united states. they're not a substitute for empirical research. the facts are these -- in a three-year period, '09 to 2012, 1491 deadly uses of force by police officers. sean, 61% of the people involved

in those use of force were white males, 32% black males an almost 2-1 ratio. if there's anybody that has a claim on police misuse of force, it's white males. the other thing is this. again, data and research. 0.04% of perpetrators of black homicide are police officers. less than 1/10 of 1%. and on the other hand, more than 93% of perpetrators of black homicide were committed by black people. the president of the united states lacks the courage to look at the black community and tell them to look in the mirror as the source of their problems. most of these people that police come in contact with are engaged in some sort of criminal behavior, a call for police. if you look at the other data, their participation rates and violent crime are off the charts in terms and compared to their

rates within the population of the united states which is about 13%. >> eric guster, let's go out with those numbers. they speak for themselves. if 93% of the murders of black on black crime and less than 1/10 of 1% involve a law enforcement officer, why are groups chanting about killing cops and frying them like bacon? why is this group getting legitimacy? >> over 80% of white murders are committed by white people. we can always play the statistics. >> i'm not disputing that. you're not answering my question. >> it's a shame that we're talking about this issue in this context. >> eric, wait a minute, wait a minute. whoa, whoa, whoa. >> you are talking about black lives matter. >> eric, please, please. i don't need your talking points. this is an important question. it's less than 0.1% is with cops. but 93% are black on black crime. and you're right in pointing out in the white community -- wait a minute. let me get the question out so you can answer it.

then the question then becomes why is the president, why are these groups legitimizing a group that calls for dead police officers? why? >> that's what i'm saying. you pulled out 20 seconds of chants from thousands and thousands of hours of people doing great work because black lives do matter. and the problem is that so many people have been ignored for centuries. and that's why this group is very important. >> sheriff, you want to answer. >> not only is it important for us to acknowledge this group but to listen to their concerns. there's a small fraction of people, a small fraction of knuckleheads that are saying things that are not appropriate. but the overall reaction. >> oh, okay. so you just want to put those comments aside. >> it's amazing. you have to start doing that. >> sheriff, i can't put those comments aside. your reaction. >> well, the whole black lives -- which i've renamed black lies matter movement, is based on a lie itself. it is the bastard child of hands up don't shoot, which is a lie.

that's why this movement is illegitimate. again, i'll go back to the fact -- >> just like walter scott was murdered. you're saying that. he didn't get murdered? >> show me the data. lies, myth and propaganda do not substitute for empirical statute. >> a black individual is twice as likely to be stopped and harassed by police. clarke, you know that. >> let him finish. >> no. >> the police use of force. >> no, i'm tired of him lying on your show. >> when you look at the police use of force and you enter race, you know what you get? according to a harvard research. >> no is statistics, clarke, you know that. this is about statistics. >> no pattern of any racism by the american police officer. again all i ask --. >> oh, so profiling is not racism? >> a study, a peer review, empirical study. >> all right. we got to break here. >> i'll look at it. but today, sean, i have not been shown. i have not been shown any research that supports that lie. >> all right. thank you, both. appreciate it. coming up, dramatic new

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american soldier army master sergeant joshua wheeler was killed in this raid. but the pentagon weirdly is denying it was a combat mission. watch this. >> it doesn't represent assuming a combat role. it represents a continuation of our advise and assist mission. >> here with reaction, host of war stories, lieutenant colonel oliver north. colonel, why would they deny this is a combat role when we have the video, we'll roll it again, showing this is combat? >> it's hard to explain much of what goes on in this administration. the american people need to know the death of master sergeant wheeler in a raid against hostile forces is a combat fatality. and we ought to thank god that we still have brave men in our armed forces willing to go into harm's way. sean, the classic definition of a hero is a person who puts hymn or herself at risk for the benefit of others. that certainly defines sergeant wheeler. >> we should be proud of sergeant wheeler and talk about his sacrifice.

they brushed it aside as if it was nothing. going into that environment, that's a war zone. >> look, the peshmerga troops that he helped train, i'll be with them here next week, those are heroes as well. on this operation, they saved 70 hostages from certain death. at the same time we ought to be praying for his family that the good lord will ease their grief. the president ought to offer the thanks of a grateful nation for such selfless sacrifice. >> well said. >> no matter what the obama administration calls it, going on a raid with indigenous forces like peshmerga is combat. and disappointingly they have caught on the disease of misnaming everything. they can't name our enemy radical jihadists or call combat what it is. >> they can't say radical islam either. isis often wants money. in other words, they hold hostages, they make demands,

blackmail, and we have a policy not to pay. what about families that would like to raise money, that would like to pay for the live of their loved ones? should we allow them to do it? >> first, none of these were american citizens. >> understood. but just asking generally. >> well, look, you're talking to a guy who used to have to negotiate with iranians for the lives of americans. and i had to set a price. i mean, it's one of the most awful things you can experience besides ground combat, i suppose is worse. in the two years that we've been dealing with isis, this administration has been befuddled by what they need to do. of course what we have to show for it now, ever since obama's degrade and destroy strategy, putin is now there. >> yep. >> and ever since he arrived in syria, there's been more than 120,000 new refugees that have taken flight. seems to me the appointing of fighting joe dunford as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is already having some positive effect. now what they really ought to do is dispatch a carrier strike group and a marine ground task force to the mediterranean region and tell vladimir putin to get the hell out of the way.

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i stand and i march with hillary. i believe in her future, her vision, i believe in her policies. i believe in equal rights for men, women, pay. oh, and guess what? if you do want to start a family, you still can get paid while you have them. and maybe you should want to go to college but you can't afford it. well, we're going to work that out, okay? >> free college, free leave, free everything, free, free, free. hollywood a-lister katy perry announcing she's supporting hillary clinton for president. but when it comes to a presidential election, do you, the american people really care what these hollywood elites support?

joining us now with reaction, senior editor of in touch weekly kim serafin. all right. so everyone is free. isn't that great? >> yeah, woo. >> free college, free health care, free child care, free family leave. >> yeah, awesome. can't wait. and apparently katy perry is going to help us get it. she kept saying we. you know, like she's now a part of clinton's camp, which is i guess great. as far as the american public really wants to see these celebrity endorsements, i don't think so. because now we have celebrities running for office. donald trump himself is doing so well because everyone sees him as a big -- >> but he's not offering everything for free. >> kim, does this really matter? do you think she has any influence over people? >> i don't think celebrities sway somebody's vote either way. i don't think somebody will say somebody's supporting -- i i think this goes for either side. i don't think you see a

celebrity supporting a republican or a democrat, i don't think it changes your vote. katy perry was very positive. her parents are republicans, i should mention. >> i did read that. >> she won't go out and say nasty things about republicans. her parents are republicans. they came to her to the white house with her when she did a special olympics ceremony. >> last week an article that hillary at the state department paid men $16,000 more a year than women. a little problem. >> again, that people look at celebrities and it gets some attention. katy perry came out and made comments, but she apartmented. that's what you want if you're a candidate on the right or the left you want somebody to perform and entertain the crowd. and it gets attention. that's really the point. it gets people tweeting about it, posting on instagram. people who maybe are not paying attention to fox news or reading political, right, there are few, few people. but if they're not reading political coverage, they still knew about hillary's rally because they heard about katy performing. that's the advantage. >> a little trick i do on my radio show. i'll ask somebody that loves

hillary, all right. she has been this the public eye decades. name three specific things that she has accomplished to make the american people's lives better. and i play the jeopardy thing. ♪ nobody can answer. and the longer they talk, the funnier it gets. nobody can name a specific thing. i'm not going to put you on the spot. >> have you read her book? >> i read obama's book. >> apparently it's all in there. she sent her book to all the republican candidates saying you can't say anything nice about me, here is my book. but if you have to just sell your book in order to get people to like you. >> that's not -- >> here is the question. she lied about benghazi. she was writing her daughter, the libyan president, the egyptian prime minister. it's not about a youtube video. and then she is telling us it was about a youtube video. why does that -- my kids get this trouble not for the dumb things they do, which they never do, of course. but when they lie about it after. why would americans support somebody they don't trust? >> well, here is the thing. going back through that thing

that you said you do on your radio show, it's entertainment. ankh and i think you have to do that in politics. that's why you're seeing donald trump -- >> it's a hearing. it's not about entertainment. if you lied, you need to own up to that. >> but i'm talking more about the celebrities endorsing. you to bring a little entertainment to politics. and i think that's the whole point of it. that's why donald trump -- >> ted cruz said he would love to host "snl." i just saw that. >> katy perry needs to be careful, though, and other celebrities. as these candidates become more polarizing, which i think hillary really has become over the last few years, a lot of my friends who are democrats are going to bernie sanders now. they don't even want hillary anymore. they need to be careful about it. >> but you're also seeing, because i think you're seeing a shift because of maybe donald trump and the celebrity that he celebrity. you're seeing all these republican candidates go on late night talk shows. i've never seen this many republicans. >> on arsenio. >> okay. but republican primary candidates on, you know -- >> that's a little new. >> carly fiorina sing about her

dog on jimmy fallon? >> that's a good point. >> i think you have to do this. you have to reach out to this audience. before it was i don't want to reach out to this younger audience. i think you need do to. >> good to see you. reach dougt the younger generation here. >> reaching out. >> exactly. something like that. when we come back, our ask sean segment is coming up next. we have very important question of the day. it has to do with the coming debit on wednesday. that's straight ahead.

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new jersey. based on what we know about hillary today, is she any closer from being disqualified from the presidency? that's my question. >> well, i think we learned last week, and by the way, frank, thank you. i think we learned last week she lied when she was writing chelsea and talking to the president of libya, the prime minister of egypt. she didn't tell the truth. she was telling them one story. it wasn't related to a youtube video in the case of the egyptian prime minister. and of course it was terror-related. she was telling us it was about this video. she knew otherwise. now does that disqualify her? that's going to be up to the american voter. i think she does have issues over the e-mail she deleted. 30 what? 32,000 of them. and if they're not about a wedding, a funeral, and about yoga, she might have some trouble, especially if they're about benghazi or about the clinton foundation or if they had classified material. so time will tell. a long way to go. if you have a question, just go to twitter. use the #ask sean. and even better send in a video

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