and yeah, it's endless, but it won't last forever. >> we will see you back here in one hour. jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ sandra: this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra myth. here today, harris faulkner. andrea tantaros. fox news contributor, julie roginsky. we welcome back duck commander ceo and avout family man, willie robinson on the couch. >> "outnumbered" again. welcome back. andrea: welcome to the "outnumbered" family. >> back on the couch. always like sitting on the couch harris: like this one? >> any couch. andrea: we do a lot of quacking here. >> squawking and cracking.

andrea: no squawking. just quacking. sandra: by the way, go tigers. you're also by the way an author. today is a big day for you. willie's new book "american hunter." how legendary hunters shaped america. on sale right now. >> on sale right now. i'm excited. sandra: great big welcome back to you, willie. we have a lot of news to get to. we want to your take on presidential campaign. it is heating up. donald trump may have to get used to being number two with only one day until the next republican debate. surging ben carson taking the lead nationally for the first time in the republican presidential campaign. this lodging "the donald" from the top spot. according to new "cbs/new york times poll" carson leads 26% to 22% for doctor, donald trump. but that is still within, by the way, the margin of error. marco rubio, jeb bush and carly

fiorina all trailing by double digits. carson's surge nationally follow as couple of iowa polls that put the famed neurosurgeon in first place. one key poll giving carson a whopping 14-point lead over trump in the hawkeye state, well outside of any margin of error. willie, to you first, are you supporting or throwing your support behind anybody in the race? >> i'm still looking. i have met several of the candidates. i was with trump recently. i like a lot of stuff he says and bobby jindal is still in. hopefully he can pick up some traction, get his message out there. i have met dr. carson. super nice guy. his wife is a hoot. enjoy hanging out with her. a lot of great people. i was with mick huckabee in israel. like a lot of americans, listening, learning i get a little chance to talk to some people and i think, i'm kind of ready for it to narrow down a little bit. sandra: that's a good point. there are a lot of undecided voters out there.

sound like yourself as one of them, you're still listening. to what do you attribute dr. carson's rise in the polls? you're a religious man, a family man. dr. carson spoke about his religion, he changed with barbs with donald trump who is more religious. i think donald trump did that. >> you have to watch out arguing who is more religious. i appreciate about his faith and puts that out there. it is not all about how religious you are. this is about running a country. we have a lot of stuff going on all over the world. i'm interested to know how these guys and gals have a plan for that. i'm concerned, especially with christians getting their heads chopped off overseas, that really concerns me. i want to hear ideas about that. but i like trump's energy. andrea: did he ask you to endorse him? >> not exactly. we just hung out. we talked and you know i got some of his, some of his opinions. i don't agree with everything he

says but i don't agree with everything my father says. we can all disagree as well. but it is about being a leader. i'm looking for somebody to lead to take leadership, have an opinion. >> weren't you with jindal at one point? did you endorse jindal or backtracked. >> no. i'm not a politician. i don't have to endorse them. sandra: you're a businessman. >> who cares what i think anyway. you know, but yeah, bobby is a good friend. he has been on our television show. spiritual man, great family. we hung out a lot in louisiana. he is still getting his message out there. it is still early. harris: speaking of business, "duck dynasty" is still a dynasty. you built the dream. who impressed you most in some of the candidates in terms of business. >> you have to love trump. we were both in business and i know he talk as lot about, you

know, what he has done in business which is -- that is important. that impress as lot of people. the other people do as well but they do it in politics. talking about what they have done through politics. harris: right. >> since he hasn't been in politics all he can do is talk about in business. he gets his message out there. it is impressive to a lot of my friends when you say, you made a billion dollars. sandra: andrea, i can't wait to get your take, is this new national poll showing carson taking over donald trump. is this a turning point in the campaign. >> i think it is still too soon. it is significant. both men have been in the cross-hairs of media and the left. both had their sort of scandals with the media. carson's comments about muslims. trump, we don't have enough time for me to go down the list but they're still both leading with pretty significant leads. if i were advising carson, do no harm. you're the front-runner. we know ben carson does better

in smaller forums. he said it himself. he is not the attack dog. he doesn't shine during the debates because he is quiet. this is not engineered for ben carson. networks love to pit candidates against each other. donald trump he needs to make sure he doesn't do anything too crazy tomorrow night. i do want to build on harris's question, willie, trump is taking a lot of heat by getting quote, a small loan of a million dollars from his father. >> i saw that. andrea: people are imappealing him, mostly the media for his comment. you look a million dollars in new york, and what he was able to do with a million dollars, most people, especially liberals, no offense, julie, they would blow the million dollars because they know nothing about running a business. as a businessman are you impressed with a million dollars what he has done? >> that is one thing always impressed me about donald trump. if you're going to be this successful in new york city, i have no experience other than visiting here i assume you have

to work with a lot of different people to be successful in this city. and he dealt with big numbers. he dealt with this company. he said a small one. i thought it was funny. i guess, perception, right? where you're at in life. that, you know, but i think he built a huge empire. that is impressive to me. >> let's be little clear, daddy opened up a lot of doors for donald trump. all of us know it is not just even the million dollar loan which would be -- harris: what does that matter? >> opening doors? when the father is in same business you're in and vouch for you? sandra: take the opportunity with you, run wit. >> i'm not diminishing what donald trump has been able to accomplish. let's be clear if any of us started a business in same real estate market he started business in he wouldn't have doors open for us. harris: so many people inherit money and blow it. >> agreed. andrea: for decades. >> he has blown it three times with business bankruptcies of the say this about him. when you're running for

president, somebody gave me a small loan of a million dollars, doesn't sound so good. that is not a small loan to most people. andrea: is it better than we're dead broke? >> no, stupid thing. that is good for the goose. everybody attack hillary for saying that. that is dumb thing to say. sandra: be careful taking that out of context. that was a small loan in comparison what he has been able to do over course of business career and life and personal goals and what he achieved as billions of dollars in the bank. that is where it comes from. >> i agree. if you're in politics you're explaining you are already losing. andrea: that is one thing donald trump doesn't do. he doesn't explain or apologize. if you don't like it, move on. harris: one thing for sure still meeting to choose, seven out of 10 respondents in the polling we're talking about today still haven't really made up their minds quite yet. if we saw flips back and forth in last election cycle we still

have a lot to see. >> one of the things he said that is tamest, got a small loan. andrea: that is for sure. sandra: as evidenced on this couch the debate intensifying this one, heavy scrutiny of the police, who is to blame for rise in violent crime. the white house says no. the fbi director says yes. who is right in all this? what needs to be done to make americans more safe? plus "the new york times" under fire for what some are calling a sexist article about presidential candidate carly fiorina. this avenues outlet dubbed her the other woman. would the mainstream media go after a man in this way or hillary clinton for that matter? right after the show catch more from the couch on the web. we're here for "outnumbered overtime," foxnews.com -- outnumbered. click on over time tab. tweet us your questions and topics you want to hear more about from willie. he will join us. ♪ did you know that good nutrition

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officers less aggressive, and leading to more violent crime. comments the white house says, that it disagrees with. >> the available evidence, at this point does not support the notion that law enforcement officers around the country are shying away from fulfilling their responsibilities. the evidence that we've seen so far doesn't support the contention that law enforcement officials are somehow shirking their responsibility. in fact you hear law enforcement leaders indicating across the country that is not what is taking place. andrea: now listen to comey doubling down on his assertion yesterday. >> in today's youtube world, our officers reluctant to get out of their cars to do the work that controls violent crime. i spoke to officers in one big city at a precinct house who described being surrounded by young people with mobile phones video cameras rolling as they step out of the car, taunting them, asking them what they want and why they're there. they described a feeling of

being under siege, and were honest and said we don't feel much like getting out of our cars. andrea: meantime a wake is being held today for new york city police officer randolph holder. he died last week after he was shot in the head by a suspect that he was chasing. a funeral is planned for tomorrow. okay, willie, that is the top cop, obama's top cop at the fbi and he is saying that this violent crime spike is because of the hostility that you hear, hostility we've heard from the white house and "black lives matter," that movement, coming out of cities everywhere. he is actually correlating the two. the white house is saying oh, no, that is the not case. who do you believe? >> there are some things out of control right now especially against police officers, and i can't imagine, i can't imagine, i'm fortunate enough to be around a lot of police officers where i go and they're with me and, you know, i think we've got, we've got to stop this insanity, with all this violence and all this pointed towards them.

you know, doesn't shock me that they're saying sometimes they just don't want to get out of their cars. yeah, i would have to siding with them. andrea: harris we've seen cops targeted before. a cop was targeted in new york. we've seen messages coming out hollywood. quentin tarantino calling cops murders. there is anti-cop sentiment and police you talk to say they feel it. harris: i took a look at the crime statistics where president is going at hometown in chicago and they don't break it out necessarily by race, but here is what our brain room was able to find out. 75% of all victims and offenders are black where in a city blacks make up a third of the population. here is the opportunity for the president, i said this yesterday. the president can to to the city, make it not about race. he can not talk about hashtags and everything. he can make it about issues upon our communities across the country like, creation of jobs,

tamping down violence in every direction is what you're talking about willie. but the people who are tasked at protecting us, you can not make them targets because there are fewer of them on the anticipate, almost in every instance. it's an untenable place to be. you don't want a country where there is lawlessness. you don't want that. the president has opportunity today, i hope he takes it, really drills down beyond the numbers and really looks at particularly black on black crime in his own hometown. andrea: look at police, sandra, they're basically guilty until proven innocence. why get out of the car when they could be vilified in the media, lose their pension, lose their job or lose their life? he is going to your hometown of chicago. will he actually talk about the real gun statistics there and what as harris points out causing deaths of black men? sandra: it is really scary. it is really scary for these communities and really scary that police will not act in the

way they rom miss to or act in a way they should because of the fact that they have been so heavily scrutinized. but, willie, i wanted to ask you, this isn't just the president putting proposals out there on further gun control, but hillary clinton went as far to call for the gun manufacturers to be held responsible in the midst of gun violence or when a gun is used in a murder. as a gun owner, i assume, you are, positioned on cover of your book out today with a gun, what do you make of something like that? >> the problem that they keep looking at something else to blame, which is the guns. so, god forbid we find out that that car that just went through that parade, god forbid she has mental illness and why she just ran her car through? are we taking cars away now? tons of people injured. there are people killed. so there is a major problem with mental illness. guns are regulated, if you buy a

gun, believe me, it is regulated. so there is guns are in hands of -- andrea: sorry, willie, go ahead. >> guns are in hands of mostly good people just like police officers are mostly good people. yes, there are bad ones but you can't make a sweeping take away the whole second amendment over this. i mean. andrea: julie, there was new poll a majority of americans don't agree with the new gun control laws democrats putting forward in abc poll. they believe they have the right under the second amendment. bill bratton, nypd police commissioner is coming out sounding off to defend police in his city and everywhere because of comments by tarantino. let's is enin. >> shame on him, at the same time we're grieving the murder of a new york city police officer. there are no words to describe the contempt i have for him and his comments at this particular

time. andrea: i agree with everything bill bratton just said. that is horrible time for quentin tear tan tino. that is not what i want to talk about. obama and comey talking to police chiefs, they, chief people in the country calling for universal back brown checks which vast majority of americans agree with. we don't fortunately have background checks universally. we have some in places but not everywhere. louisiana has much loser gun control laws, coming across gary, indiana, you know how close the two cities are we can't control that, of course it will lead to more violence. if we can't have universal background checks people in private sales make sure they're getting guns, police chiefs want it, vast majority of people want it. vast majority of nra members want it. why we don't have it, i don't know. sandra: vast majority of people involved in gun violence are now

legal gun owners. andrea: postively not true, going to deny legal gun, especially city like chicago. >> not talking about chicago. andrea: rahm emanuel is lying about crime statistics. he reconfigured characterize it to make chicago making a beacon of hope. >> i'm not talking about chicago. andrea: president is talking about chicago. >> more likely to have a gun legally more likely to commit suicide and -- andrea: majority of the crimes in cities -- >> talking about this country. talking country. selectively do chicago. harris: willie made a good point, more people, even on this couch, you made an excellent point. will we take away everything people use to kill each other? because we'll really start with the basics. >> i will tell you something, this woman was drunk. we regulate people getting behind the wheel of a car when

they're drunk. harris: this is substance. we're not regulating the car. we're regulating the substance. >> we are regulating the substance but not regulating guns, things that can kill you, one -- sandra: they are regulated. >> they are not regulated. sandra: where do we go guns are not regulated? >> how about gun show not universal background check? you and i can give each other a gun. i can't give you a car without registering it but i can give you a gun without registering it? come on? >> do you think universal background check will it stop people killing people. >> no. will it vastly diminished. we're one of the more advanced countries in the world don't have it, correlation with so much gun violence and other places don't. stop burying our heads in the sand and talking about everything is great and second amendment entitles you to know regulation and everything -- sandra: there is not no regulation. that is false. >> what regulation. i can get a gun from you without anybody checking my back ground. sandra: what is the question?

>> the question we don't have universal background checks. that means a lot of people who should not have guns -- sandra: we're talking about chicago, one of the cities with the strictest gun control law. >> in indian across the order. not like chicago is self-contained city. indiana -- sandra: sound like you're not happy until guns are revoked. >> that is not what i'm talking about at all. harris: you're talking about criminal behavior. andrea: guns are the not problem. >> criminal behavior is not criminal until somebody commit as crime with a gun. you can legally get a gun. decide to commit a crime. give me a break. harris: psychologists say if somebody wants to kill somebody they use whatever happened. killing starts in here. >> are we craziest country in the world? why do other countries not have issues? people have more mental illness. harris: that a good question. look at issue. >> i think answer is no, we're not crazier. andrea: everybody one should use spray guns and super soakers.

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♪ andrea: "the new york times" under fire for what some are calling a sexist article about carly fiorina. the profile focuses on the republican presidential candidate's time at hewlett-packard. interviewing 25 people for the story about her management style. it reads, quote, those who worked with her described her an sill rating, blunt, self-punishing figure who stayed in the office until 1:00 a.m. and expected aides to do the same. a boss who could be warm, even nuturing, but who could abruptly turn cold and unforgiving. readers slamming the characterization of fiorina as

nuturing and cold, two adjectives rarely assigned to men as sexist. "washington examiner" posting one reed ear's comment, women act to different situations with varied emotions. another responded on twitter. as a boss, fiorina coulding warm one day, cold the next, so really "new york times," would you ever were it that about a man? comes one month after an abc news article dubbed fiorina, the other woman in the presidential race. okay, sandra, you interview ceos all the time. would they say this about a male ceo? sandra: no. no, he probably would have been glorified. he would have been hard-est working ceo that company has ever seen but do i think that she is owed an apology on this? i wouldn't go as far to say that. surely she is being treated unfairly compared to the other woman in the race, hillary clinton. harris: wow. sandra: but you know, carly fiorina's tough. i don't think she needs anybody

to stick up for her on this one. she can handle it herself. she showed that in the first debate. andrea: yesterday when i saw the fiorina article i immediately thought they wouldn't say this about a man. >> i got your email. you were fired up. andrea: male republican. ceo of bain capital mitt romney, even though republican they wrote about him in 2012, even diplomatic. wonderful adjectives about romney but nothing like this. >> cold, words absolutely used for men. sandra, you're so right. would be glorified being tough and decisive, making people stay to 1:00 a.m., having a work ethic. you're right, by the way "the new york times" has been horrific to hillary clinton. there, sexist stuff they said about her from mao reason dowd woman herself on down is pretty unacceptable. this is the same double-standard continuously persists in the media where you take women and start ascribing emotional

responses to them, that they're cold. they're not, you know, warm and fuzzy. wait a second. woman is running hewlett-packard. sorry, she is not spoused to warm and nuturing? nutureing? she is not their mother. andrea: i see dowd as opinion columnist which she is. this is profile piece. that same reporter did a more glowing article on mitt romney. and i know that carly fiorina doesn't play the victim unlike hillary clinton. she will not come out and call it sexist but i will. i think it is really sexist they wrote that. what do you think? >> she has to be used to that, right? being where she's been and doing what she's done she has to be used to this kind of stuff. at first, i was like, come on, why is everybody getting their feelings hurt. as ceo, believe me, talk to employees, former employees i will get a lot of adjectives that are not so glowing, how people see them and view them. sound a little, i guess i can

see where it is, but, who cares. i think she is tough enough. i agree. watching debates i don't think -- andrea: harris, i read it, thought what do they expect from her? is she supposed to get -- yes. andrea: fired some people in email. didn't give them a massage. harris: expect a latter for her. like hillary clinton to smile more. they want all women to be in a position to be nuturing and kind. but if i have to fire you i'm not going to hug you, because i don't know you might hit me on the way out. i will do my job. by the way, when you give somebody tough love, doesn't make you the villain. can be the most constructive thing you ever had. how do we know as ceo and a leader that she wasn't doing some of those people a favor? we don't know that. we weren't in the room. sandra: to willie's point, andrea, when you're the ceo of a major corporation or of "duck dynasty," you have got to somewhat cold. i mean you have got to be, at --

harris: at least neutral. >> you do have to separate, you do have to separate. sandra: we're not friends. >> we let people go. i can't be there to be your best friend and talk about how you got screwed which i'm the one that let you go. >> to me the word nuture something nails on a chalk board i think they -- andrea: i think they want women to be on one hand, on one hand want us to be more firm in the office and not cry, not get emotional. she was firm and she was tough. but then they say she was too -- this is fight women battle every day, not just ceos. sandra, where are other ceos to defender? where is miss lean in, sheryl sandberg? you know what, sometimes you have got to be tough. harris: that is conversation for another day. sandra: the question shouldn't be can you do it all -- harris: should you? do you want to? yeah. this is same thing guy taking

girl out on a date and orders a salad, oh, you're not eating burger? you want me to be size two so i will have salad. they don't know what they want, seriously. you want her to be tough but want her to smile. >> i don't know any guys that ban you to be size two. andrea: salad or burgers. high school football coach fighting for his right to pray as lawmakers in washington take a look at dangers that religious minorities face worldwide. we'll debate whether religious freedom sunday attack on our very own soil. right after the show head to web for "outnumbered overtime." i will dub it halloween version. i don't know why. because it is tuesday and i feel like it. click the "overtime" tab. send us your questions and comments the we'll find out what the "duck dynasty" family is dressing up as and more. sandra: i will be willie robinson.

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♪ harris: global crisis regards religious freedom is now focused on our nation's capitol today. lawmakers hold a hearing on troubles facing religious minorities worldwide, harrassment, imprisonment, slavery, excuses. critics calling on the united states to do more on the problem. there is controversy here at home. attorneys for a washington state high school district coach are ready to sue the school district. the administrators are ready to fire him if he continues to pray at 50-year-old line after the game. willie, i like to come to this on you. this is isn't like the school district telling him he can't pray because we don't want you pros loo advertising. they don't want a lawsuit. what are your thoughts. >> this is absurd. i can not believe this is happening in this country. i do want to make the distinction between persecution of stuff going on overseas --

harris: prosecution and persecution. >> or execution so there are some real problems all around the world. sad here in america, he couldn't drop to a knee, said he couldn't bow his head, do anything that looked like he was being religious. i mean are you kidding me? this is country we live in that you can't -- perhaps, that is part of the problem with all the other society things we've been talking about is things like this, you can't do. other things you can do. harris: what i was going to say, can you imagine them outlawing the middle finker? think about all the nasty language you hear. andrea: prison for life. harris: what about the things we do tolerate out there in the stand? >> that is what i'm saying. this guy can't even, he can't even exercise that right. i think it is absurd. i hate it. it is worth being fired over and worth suing over if they want to sue. if i had to lose my job because i couldn't pray -- sandra: part of the success of your show was, everybody loved

the end of your show to see your family get together around the dinner table and pray. >> most everyone that came up to me and said something about our show over the years has mentioned that and said, wow, that is so refreshing to see that on television. it was, hugely successful. and a lot of people watched it and appreciated it for what that was. here we go, this situation happens, just sad. harris: julie what they're asking for on the part of this coach, his defense, they want an accommodation, a religious accommodation. so he has received a letter in the last few days saying that is not going to happen. >> well the difference, you prayed, fully endorse your right to pray and commend it in your own house. the different he is doing on public taxpayer-funded property. we talked about guns before. i can't wait for the tweets on this one but you know, my contention is they actually gave him an accommodation by saying go pray in private. you can go to separate room and bow your head. harris: that is not accommodation. that is shunning.

>> that is not shunning. harris: take it private. >> they're saying essentially he is proselytizing to students doing it on private property. harris: potentially. >> contention he is endorsing religion on public property, taxpayer funded property. i happen to agree with them. i can't wait to hear from people on this one. i'm very passionate about this. i have fully endorsed everybody's right to pray. i commend it. i don't think it should be done on taxpayer-funded property. harris: i don't you will have to go to twitter. i'm sure you will hear blow back right now. andrea, here is my question for you, in terms of telling him he can pray in private, what they're doing to pry to protech themselves from a lawsuit from something that hasn't happened yet. taking words of the minority and ruling over majority as i heard you say many, many times. andrea: now we have anticipatory tyranny of minority, right? it hasn't happened yet. let it happen. i would love to see the case stand up in court. he has first amendment right to do what he is doing.

he is not forcing his religion on anybody. in fact aclu, or anybody would be loony enough to take up the case would have to prove he is. would have to prove he is forcing them and taking punitive action by the way to his players if somehow they don't convert or follow suit or pray with him. which i think, because he is not doing it would be pretty darn tough to prove. >> isn't this essentially same argument of prayer in school why people oppose prayer in school. if you encourage prayer in school -- andrea: he is not encouraging it. hey, guys come over here. quietly praying. he has the right to do that in america last time i checked. >> couldn't take a knee or bow his head -- so you're saying if i'm on school property i can not bow my head because it looks like i may be praying? >> they are saying he can bow his head in private. he shouldn't do it in front of the students might make students feel like -- andrea: not what is says in the constitution. harris: think about that logically what willie is asking.

i might bow my head i'm thinking about the play next on field. how do you know -- >> because he is saying it. that is the difference. harris: what about when you take a knee in the end zone? will we outlaw that too? andrea: harris you can't point to the sky as you said. we regulate where we extend fingers and appendages. harris: can i tell you which one we can't raise? i've been in the stands for that too. we'll move on. if you're feeling stressed out about your job,. >> i am now. harris: julie roginsky feels stressed out, trillions on twitter eating her alive. do you know the stress can trim years off your life? #oneluckyguy, close up, people. with business of his own. way in on keep your stress down, live longer. >> chill out. ♪

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andrea: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first to jenna lee what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now"? >> and de, next hour tension between two superpowers heat up as a u.s. warship sales close to

the south china sea. u.s. says following international law. china thinks differently. what will happen if we go there again. president upping amount tee when it comes to isis. will we see more boots on the ground in the fight against the terrorists. cold case confession more than three decades in the making. why a milwaukee man decided to come clean. what it could mean for his defense. it is all "happening now" coming right up. andrea: thank you. sandra: everyday stress isn't great for your health but extra worry at work may actually trim a couple years off your life. new study finds men and women are more at risk for work-related stress based on their education level. fewer than 12 years of education can mean two fewer years on this earth. the greatest sources of work stress for all people, layoffs, unemployment and lack of health insurance. having little control or discretion over their own work, job insecurity for men and shift work for women. ladies do you think there is

anything to this study? more stress at work, shorter your lifespan? >> probably i'm sure. more stressed out ir, more unhealthy you would be. i've seen people so stressed out they were sick all the time. i've seen that happen. sandra: people who work for you, willie? >> no. my people don't work, that is the problem. they're all my family. >> can you fire them on national television? >> i can't fire them. that is a family rule. sandra: that is great point. work life balance is major focus for u.s. corporations right now. julie, interesting they tie it to education several. smaller your education or shorter your education, the more stressed you are at work and therefore the shorter your life. i guess that because the level of work you get into with less education? >> that and probably your level of income so you doesn't have as much of a safety cushion. if you get fired you have obviously a lot less safety cushion. look. i remember having a job once -- you know the feeling you have in

the pit of your stomach wake up in the morning to go to work? i hated it so much, i quit without having another job. i hated job so much. harris: did you regret it? >> best decision i ever made, nothing was work that stress. andrea: i hope the study isn't true, julie, because after today you might keel over. >> i have no stress in life. bring it on, haters. harris: you don't like prayer and you don't like guns. but she is still really fun. >> i am fun, i know. harris: something about the study that is interesting to me, at least the first two categories people most stressed out is something they don't do on the job because it is unemployment and layoffs! it is fact that they don't have a job that stresses them out the most. sandra: nothing more stressful, right, being out of work and not being able to find work, unfortunately the case for a lot of americans right now. has the love affair with facial hair faded? the interesting findings from a new survey on what are very, very bearded one lucky guy

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andrea: we've been wonnerring if the next story will have our one lucky guy reaching for a razor. the research finding days of over women swooning over stubble may be over. six out of 10 prefer a clean-shaven guy over some with some scruff. nearly half say beards like unhigh again i can. about the same number of women saying they will not date a bearded man. even more bad news for the beais with hair, men with beards even found more likely to have been in a fight, more likely to cheated on their partner, oh, wow, and more likely to stolen something. sandra: what? andrea: beards equal bad boys and women are not into facial hair? willie, i don't think you will shave your beard. do you buy this. >> i don't buy it at all. look, see, you never know what may be -- found a cookie in my beard from earlier. that is what is good about --

harris: that is what happens if i don't get a blowout with my hair. >> this whole thing is absurd. over came up with this and did this are -- andrea: know where i think it came from? the faulkner independence statute. because that woman over there does not like beards. harris: that is not true. tony might be watching, stop. andrea: harris only person told him liking beard was me and i got in trouble for it. harris: every march madness my husband goes willie robertson. >> all the way? this would be march to march. harris: he can do that in 15 minutes. mary ellen 1539 on live chat for overtime-out numbered, facial hair on women not so good. sandra: willie, is there occasion where you would take a razor to your face? >> i can't think of one right now. probably bad for business at this point. so, yeah, we you know, this is for cold winters. sandra: really? >> cold as gets in new york -- harris: 57 degrees outside.

>> it will get cold. in the woods all the time. andrea: i don't mind facial hair. i like stubble. i like facial hair. harris: tony invokeses andrea -- harris, and delikes it. andrea: i do. i can't lie. i like clean-shaven, unshaven. like all times. >> talking about jesus, santa claus, all have beards. andrea: i love jesus but -- >> all about jesus. i just don't want jesus on public property. i insulted poor willie with the comment rand guns. sandra: julie is stressed out. [laughter] we'll look at willie's book out today. you can buy it today. "american hunter." how legendary hunters shaped america. stories about hunting and fishing. your family hold this is tradition -- >> we've been in hunting business forever. we went back and collected all famous people, politicians who hunted and really helped shape

america as a country. the things that we're exploring looking at, a lot of great hunters. teddy roosevelt put in the parks and refuges and all these things because he loved the outdoors. sandra: always say hunters are the biggest environmentalists. >> that is where all the money comes from. all the hunters put in this there. we're good stewards. certain amount of animals need to be taken out and eaten. somebody will eat them. foxes or coons i prefer to eat them. sandra: you're a good cook. >> farm to table, all the way from what i see, cleaned and then cooked and then consumed by my family. andrea: don't care about the new study that meat causes cancer because i think it is bunk. >> i don't think it talked about venison. andrea: did you give harris about fly fishing tips. >> is she. get back to the college days. sandra: great stuff, american hunter. buy it today. willie robertson, we love having you. >> fun to be here.

sandra: feel like my baton rouge twang is coming out. harris: getting southern. toss it to overtime. sandra: we're staying here for "outnumbered overtime" on the web. foxnews.com/outnumbered. "happening now" starts right now. killing. will he be standing on trial for first-degree murder. and a beanbag stops a would- be