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again, thanks for watching us. ms. megyn is next. please remember the spin stops here. we're definitely looking out. >> breaking tonight, republican 2016 front runner, dr. ben carson newly atop the national poll average taking a serious new attack as one major media outlet seems to suggest he made up parts of his compelling life story: welcome to the kelly file, everyone, i'm megyn kelly. none have a more powerful, personal story than ben carson. ultimately becoming a world-renowned, life-saving, pediatric neurosurgeon. he tells of groeng up in violent
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streets in a home with a single, illiterate mother and almost becoming a victim of what he says was his own terrible temper before his mother's lessons and those of god took hold and put him on a path of life helping others and of accomplishment. tonight, as carson reaches the top, all of that is being challenged by a dramatic series of reports from cnn which, today, ran numerous segments proclaiming that they spoke with about 10 people from carson's past who could not prove carson's claims but could not corroborate them, either. >> we went through the yearbooks. we've called many of his classmates, found his close friends through every period of his life. and the person that he describes in his anecdotes on the campaign trail as leading up to this religious epiphany that he had cannot remember any episodes of violence.
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>> people interviewed by cnn who knew carson back then are surprised by that description. >> classmates told cnn they have no memory of the anger or the violence the candidate has described. >> dr. carson is here to respond to these attacks live. but, first, we turn to trace gallagher with more on the reporting. trace? >> megyn, dr. ben carson says he felt the hand of god during several key moments in his life but never more so than when he was 16 years old and tried to stab a friend in the stomach over an argument of what music to listen to. if not for a belt buckle deflecting the blade, he and his friends lives would have forever changed. he asked god to free him from his druktive personality, or, as he described it, an uncontrolled pathological temper that led him to throw rocks, punch classmates and attack his own mother. listen. >> my mother was trying to get me to wear something and i didn't want to wear it.
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picked up a hammer, hit her in the head with it. fortunately, my brother caught it from behind. other than that, i was a pretty good kid. >> cnn claims they spoke to nine of ben carson's childhood friends and none has any mem reof him being an angry young man. one former classmate said he did recall hearing something similar to the attempted stabbing but thought it might just be chatter. cnn also says the carson campaign would not provide details about the history of violence including identity of these ben carson hurt and documents of any disciplinary action. in his 1990 auto-biography says he punched a boy named jerry and tried to stab a boy named bob. he made them up because if he disclosed real names, the media would invade their lives. but the auto-biography was
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written decades before his presidential aspirations. carson still maintains that he will not expose their true identities, but he has no problem if those people go public on their own. carson also said the investigations looking into his past are so desperate looking for scandal, they're almost comical. >> joining us now, republican presidential candidate, retired pediatric neurosurgeon and author along with his wife, candy of "a more perfect union" dr. ben carson. i know you've said that this feels like a witch hunt, what's happening over at cnn. but let me is you flat out that you standby the claim as a young man as a 14-year-old boy, attempted to stab another boy and attacked your mother with a hammer. >> those claims are absolutely true. you know, i am a hundred percent sure that they're true.
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and this is simply an attempt to smear and to deflect the argument to something else. something that we've seen many, many times before. >> and i never used the true names of people and books, you know, to protect the innocent. that's something that people have done for decades, for centuries. that's something that's commonly done. the person that i tried to stab, you know, i talked to today said would they want to be revealed? they were not anxious to be revealed. and it was a close relative of mine. i didn't want to put their lives under the spotlight. this is something that i wanted to do. none of those people decided that they wanted to do this. and the media is ruthless. so i would say to the people of
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america, do you think i'm a pathological liar like cnn does? or do you think i'm an honest person. and i'm going to leave that up to the american people to make that decision. >> so just to clarify, you're revealing tonight that the person you attempted to stab, unsuccessfully, a story you've told many, many times, was a close relative in your family. >> it was a close relative in my family. you know, i really don't want to get into the details of who that person was. but, also, i want to point out how silly the cnn investigation is. when i would have flashes of temper, it would only be the people involved. and, as far as the episode in junior high, none of those people knew what was going on at hunter junior high school.
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>> they take issue in attacking your own mother. one time you told that story saying you had a hammer. one time you didn't mention a hammer. it's always been a hammer. and these are things that happened over 50 years ago. a lot of times reports are what a paper reports. >> the details someone chooses to high light. understood. the other thing about the cnn report is they talk today people who knew you who cannot believe you had such a temper because they described you as quiet, glasses, nerdy skinny and unremarkable. how this suggests that you have a temper, i know not. and then there was a tenth who says he remembers a report of
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you attempting to stab somebody at the time but couldn't quite rekt it. do you feel that this is the beginning? the beginning of some of the media trying to end your candidacy? >> yeah, it's a smear campaign. but i'm not going to play that game with them. they can do it all they want. they're going to go back and try to find anything i've ever said and try to get me defensive about it in order to distract away from the things that are important. but, in our country right now, we have deviciveness going on and hay fred. we have a fiscal situation. there's so much going on that we need to be dealing with. and this is just garbage. >> this is one of the things that led you to post a bit on facebook last night that has gotten a lot of attention.
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so you took to facebook last night to admit that you have no political experience. but you referred us to the founders and said this isn't it. the current members of congress have a combined 8700 years of political experience. i'm sure that's what we want. and then you went onto say, this is it, folks. my candidacy is different. you go onto say i have neither donald trump's money nor jeb bush's political network. however, i wouldn't trade a single childhood for all of trump's money. i, too, served nights, weekend, holidays anniversaries with severely injured patients.
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and then recognizing the recklessness of many in the media and if political class. all they've done is run us into the ground. it's time for something new and different. >> dr. carson, you finished this piece on facebook by saying i didn't go to embassy cocktail parties or beg lobbyists for money. i spent night after night in a sterile room trying to save the life of a small child. what i have is a lifetime of caring, integrity and honesty. and you stand by that pledge tonight and stand by the statements you've told in the past as a commitment to that assertion of honesty before this audience. >> absolutely. and i know that they will try to come at those things and attack them. let them go ahead and play their silly games.
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we have much more important things to do. >> breaking tonight, a dramatic development to a stabbing spree on the college campus. as authorities discover a manifesto outlining a frightening motive for murder. we are live with those developments in moments. breaking news on president obama now considering the darkest theory behind the crash of a russian passenger jet. we are joined by a former muslim jihadist turned c.i.a. double agent on will isis could take down an american aircraft. and a powerful video of chris christie. more than 6 million views. former white house insiders are next. >> if it's heroin or cocaine or alcohol, we say, well, they decided. they're getting what they deserved. i'm pro-life. and i think that if you're
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the governor is taking the internet by storm today as the internet comments he racked up. this was, well, watch it. >> my mother was a smoker. she smoked her whole life. she was addicted to nicotine. i watched her as a kid growing upment she tried everything she could to quit. she had the gum. the patches. hypnosis. she tried everything. she couldn't quit. now, when she turned 71, a little after that, she was diagnosed with lung cancer. no one came to me and said don't treat her because she got what she deserved. we know the lung cancer was caused by the smoking. we know it was. but no one came to me and said hey, listen, your mother was
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dumb. she started smoking when she was 16. we told her it was bad for her and she kept doing it. we're not going to give her chemotherapy or radiation or anything. she's getting what she deserves. no one said that. yet, somehow, if it's heroin or cocaine or alcohol, we say, well, they decided. they're getting what they deserved. i'm pro-life. and i think that if you're pro-life, that means you've got to be pro-life for the whole life. not just for the nine months they're in the womb. it's easy -- it's easy to be pro-life. for the nine months they're in the womb. they haven't done anything to disappoint us yet. they're perfect in there. but when they get out, that's when it gets tough. the 16-year-old teenage girl on the floor of the county lock-up addicted to heroin. i'm pro-life for her, too.
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i'll give you a second example. but the people that you're closest to from law school are the people in your first-year study group. one of the guys, i'll give you his profile. we went to law school at seton hall, university. in new jersey. he came from an ivy league school. he was the smartest of all of us. he became an editor of the law review. he was the first one of us who got a job out of school. he got it at a big, prominent law firm. he's making more money than any of the rest of us. he married an incredibly beautiful woman who's a there. doctor. they have three gorgeous daughters. one cuter and happier and more talented than the next. he was the first one among us to become a partner at his law firm. he bought a great house. he had a great car.
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and, worse yet, he was really good-looking and in perfect shape. the guy used to run 10-12 miles a week, every week. we loved him, but we hated him. the guy had everything, right? he was running one day in his normal routine. he hurt his back, running. he was in his earl le 40s and was not giving into age. he was running his normal time and he hurt his back. he went to the doctor because he was having trouble working, really hurt. he said, listen, we're going to give you some treatment or whatever. but in the meantime, just to help you through, we're going to give you percocet. help numb the pain. well, about a year later, i get a call from his wife. she said he's addicted to these painkillers. hoe won't listen and i kicked him out of the house. you guys need to go have an
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intervention with him. those friends from law school. you need to go and get him to go to rehab. so we all went over there. we had an intervention with him. and it started a ten-year odyssey of him being in and out of rehab. during that period of time, she divorced him, he lost his right to see his girls, he lost his license to practice law, he lost his driver's license. he lost his home. he bought himself a condo and she kicked him out. he lost that. he lost all of the money, spent all the money that he had saved and spent through most of his retirement when, a year and a half ago, sunday morning, mary pat and i got the call that we've been dreading forever. that they found him dead in a hotel room with an empty bottle of percocet and an empty quart of vodka. but every measure that we define success in this country, this guy had it. great-looking guy,
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well-educated, great career, plenty of money. beautiful, loving wife. beautiful children. great house. he had everything. he's a drug addict. and he couldn't get help. and he's dead. and when i sat there as the governor of new jersey at his funeral and looked across the pew at his three daughters sobbing because their dad is gone, there but for the grace of god go i. it can happen to in. >> very powerful. joining me now to discuss it, fox news contributor former speech writer for president george w. bush and bill burton. thank you, guys, so much for being here. mark, why has that gone so viral and become -- it feels like a new touch tone on this topic. >> because so many people can relate to it. so many people have been touched by addiction. it touched me because my mother is a medical doctor and she
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spent 30 years treating heroin addicts in the south bronx and she's still going in three days a week to do it. so i grew up going to visit her at work and i met heroin add ikts when i was a young kid and played with their kids in the waiting room. one, they're pop like you and me and, to, addiction is a disease. it's a disease that's touched a lot, amazingly, a lot of the presidential field. ted cruz lost a sister, jeb bush's daughter struggled with addiction. so this is an issue that lots of people can relate to. 120 people die from overdoses die every single day. that's 44,000 a year. it's overtaken car accidents as the leading cause of death for people 25-64. this is something that the right and left can come together to do something about. >> you know, bill, just as a matter of communications, you know, both of you guys have been in that business for a living. the story-telling, you know, the personalization of it, just
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taking you through a one-man story is very effective. >> absolutely. and i think that the reason that people find this so compelling is that in a presidential campaign, you get lost in the circuit of, you know, somebody says a stupid comment, somebody gets hit for some stupid, trumped up controversy. but here, you see a candidate being truly authentic and giving off this aura of this is really who he is and this is something that's really important to him. it's so rare that you see these moments, i think this one went viral because people crave that for candidates for president of the united states and they got to get some of that from this clip. >> you know, mark, he talks about how he's in favor of -- the whole life. he's pro-life the whole life. more and more we're hearing this kind of message from republicans which may surprise a lot of people. they're pushing for criminal justice reforms that will not lead to the automatic incarceration of drug users in the easiest case, if you will. >> sure.
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absolutely. i think that was one of the most powerful messages. he had a message for his own party. we've got to be pro-life for the entire life. not just the first nine months in the womb. i think that's a message that's resonating more and more with the republican base. in new hampshire, kelly iod is running on fighting heroin addiction. >> look at this poll in new hampshire where they have a serious heroin problem. number one issue above jobs and economy, in terms of importance. >> yeah, absolute lid. so she's running on that in new hampshire. in ohio, it's a huge problem, as well. rob portman has introduced legislation to fight addiction and to get medical help for these folks. >> bill, this was a moment for chris christie. but there was another moment today which was not good. he did not poll high enough to make the network.
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so this will be the under-card stage. he came out today and said i'll debate any podium, any stage you put me on. how does it all play out. >> i think it's tough for him that he's not on the main stage. what you saw today from chris christie, i think is the reason that you're still going to see a moment in this race where christie rises up and threatens some of the front runners. i don't know that he's going to be the nominee or best-suited for where the party is right now. i do think that he has something that is very valued and that's the ability to tap into this authenticity. you didn't see it here,but you see it in other places where he can speak to the fact that the american people are despondent in a lot of ways about where things stand, especially in the american primary voters. he speaks to the system that the system is rigged.
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i think he does a good job delivering that message. >> mark your calendars, because the next republican debate is this tuesday, november 10th, on the fox business network. starting the coverage at 6:00 p.m. with the undercard. and then maria and neil cavuto will take over for the second debate at 9:00 p.m. in prime time. and don't forget to tune into fox news channel and our special kelly file which will be live at midnight with complete debate analysis. including those two guys you just saw. we also have breaking news tonight on that campus stabbing spree after the f.b.i. and the department of homeland security got involved in the investigation. we learned a short time ago about a manifesto. up next, see what it tells us about the motive and what the attacker had planned. president obama is considering thdarkest theory. he's done a reversal on this. we are joined next by a former
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breaking tonight, president obama previously reluck tactant use the word bomb has now done so saying a bomb may be to blame in a crash over egypt. the islamic state terror group claimed responsibility. a u.s. swell jens group suggests the islamic state is behind what may be the worst terror attack since 9/11. president obama today appearing to entertain the theory pushed much more forcefully than britain's prime minister that a bomb was on board this plane. >> i think there is a possibility that tlfhere was a bomb on board.
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and we're taking that very seriously. >> joining us now, martin storm. he is co-author of "agent storm." my life inside al-qaida and the c.i.a. mor moral ton, thanks so much for being with us today. if this was a bomb, what does this tell us and what can we expect next? >> well, it tells us that isis, if it is from isis that they have people infiltrate iing airports in our world which is really disturbing. >> how can you tell whether this was something directed at a higher level or if it is isis, it is a lone wolf type of event. >> see, that's very early to tell. but i can tell you from my own
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personal experience we had our own people working inside the airport. and the frkts ta had people at the check point, at the passport control and they have people who used to handle the luggage. don't forget, it happened in great britain in 2010. >> does this seem like the work of is is is to you. do you think it's sophisticated enough to pull this off? >> absolutely. we should never underestimate the power of isis we have, obviously, as for al-qaida's
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point of view, we have attempt such as the shoe bomber and many attempts to blow up airplanes. so it's not a new thing. do not underestimate these people. they're capable of hitting us any way they want. >> there's been a lot of security. and the united states, we like to believe -- we like to believe -- that we have a better system. that our tsa agents have a screening process in place that when they make us wipe down our hands and so on, they're testing for bomb residue, that that's going to stop a bomb from getting on board a u.s. aircraft. >> do you believe it could happen here?
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>> yes, don't forget, we had a terrorist plot to blow up airplanes over the usa from u.k. so i'm saying these people can do it. they are sophisticated enough to create bombs that cannot be protected. >> so, now, if it's not isis, what is the risk, in your experience, of attempted copy cat incidents. they get an idea, they claim responsibility for it even if they don't own responsibility for it and then they try to do it themselves. >> yes, you have many people who want to become martyrs and take the credit for these kinds of things. a guy who will sacrifice his own life to become a martyr for this cause.
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you know, lone wolves, plenty of them out this, for sure that will will be people again trying to do the same. >> and if it is proven that this was a bomb on board this aircraft, all the experts saying putin will retailuate and it will be strong. >> also breaking tonight, after the f.b.i. and d.h.s. got involved in the investigation, we learned a short while ago about a frightening manifesto behind a chilling attack at a california college. the manifesto detailing the suspect's plans to go after his fellow classmates. claude ya cowen reports live tonight with the very latest. >> megyn, stunning new details and it basically all comes down
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to revenge. the county sheriff says that during an autopsy that was performed on the 18-year-old assailant in this case who was a freshman student, medical examiners found a two-page manifesto detailing his plans to get back at classmate who is had recently kicked him out of a study group. his plan was to tie them up, lure campus police to the scene, steal their gun and then use it to shoot students. items found included zip tie handcuffs, duct tape, a night vision scope and other items that ind kad t careful planning and nefarious attempt. he nearly got away with his plan when a contractor heard the teacher screaming and raced in to help, forcing the assailant to abandon his descriptive attack.
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while the assailant's actions were praised on twitter with a group affiliated with isis, officials are down playing islamic references in the manifesto in which the teenager prais praises ala. the four victims are recovering and classes are scheduled to resume tomorrow. >> well, there are also dramatic new developments tonight in the case of a illinois cop to stage his own suicide to try to make it look like a murder as we hear suggestions his family may be involved in this whole mess. plus, the stunning story of a boy who disappeared 13 years ago, only to turn up as a young man who never knew he was missing. and then, brian kelly joins us on the growing out rage after an eighth grade girl gets detention for hugging. >> well, basically, taking away
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hillary clinton is following his lead. last week, mrs. clinton was pushing for reforms that would prevent former convicts from having to disclose their criminal histories on employment applications. or so she thought. >> earlier today, i announced that as president, i will take steps to ban the box. so former presidents won't have to declare their criminal history at the very start of the hiring process. that way, they'll have a chance to be seen as more than just someone who's done time.
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>> brian kilmeade is the author. great to see you, brian. she meant to say former prisoners shouldn't have to disclose their criminal histories. what she said was presidents shouldn't have to disclose their criminal histories. >> a couple of things. number one, we're not talking about woodrow history or teddy roosevelt. you're talking about the only husband that she has, number one. and the only president could say he does have a criminal history. what i found is if you google me, you'll see a lot of gaps. but what i've prided myself is going back and krkting them sometime that day or week. >> she goes onto say good news is target and walmart also plan to ban the box. so bill does have an option should he want to get another job in the later years, which my
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grandfather chose to do in the later years. >> she must have been mortified when she walked off stage and people said you said president. and she said what? what? in other news, an incredible story today with respect to a missing child. he went missing when he was five years old and he's been found alive and well. tell us. >> so get this, at five years old, he's living in birmingham, alabama. his dad was taking him to preschool and he's gone. everyone suspected the dad. but he's gone. he really had no rights to the child. and the child is gone. he changed his name and turns out he's moved over to ohio. this 18-year-old kid we now know as the hernandez kid, he's living there and decides he wants to go to college. he has to go see his counselor because every time he writes down his social security number, the application gets rejekted.
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turns out he's on the missing persons list. the dad is 53 years old and he's incarcerated and in a whole lot of trouble. where this kind goes, now 18, he's got to go and try to reclaim his life. you have to imagine they're going to have a reunion. what an incredible story and what years that father robbed that mother and their son in terms of that relationship. just terrible. how hold is this hugger? >> eighth grade. >> so an eighth grade girl does a quick hug of one of her classmates. i think we have her on tape describing it.
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that's it. like that. in and out. >> well, what happened to her, this is the second time she's been caught hugging. and the reason was, this is actually before school. some say it was a consoling hug, judging by the length of the hug. and they, before school, is seen by a supervisor, by one of the teachers, turns it in and she gets suspended. they've actually got a lawyer to get this overturned. hand holding is not allowed, either. what is up? >> if you score a big goal, you're allowed to celebrate. you're not allowed to console with the hug. and the principal is standing strong saying too much affection
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james madison had to deal with this. so, finally, three, four years ago, i started dealing with this. the same islamic extremists had them, a brand new country, tar getting us because we had no navy and no protection. they were taking our guys hostage, 700 in all. took 35 ships and the only way to get them back is to pay for it or convert to islam because we were, of course, infidels for doing that. i thought this could be a good story to bring up. what worked is to build a strong navy and to use it. >> it fascinating that we had thomas jefferson's example to be so prominent. so thomas jefferson and the
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there are dramatic new developments tonight in the case of a delaware cop who went to great lengths to make his suicide look like a murder. now we are hearing this guy was suspected of embezzling money and may have ordered a hit on the investigator looking into the case against him. trace gallagher has more from our west coast newsroom tonight. trace. >> months before staging his own suicide believe charles gliniewicz auditing the books may have discovered he had been embezzling money for years. gliniewicz tried to hire a hit man to kill her. he sent a text message to a woman asking for help arranging a meeting with a high ranking motorcycle gang member who, in turn, would arrange the contract hit on administrator ann, that gang member denies the allegation but ann, who did eventually
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expose the embezzlement scheme spoke about the alleged hit. listen. >> it's very unsettling. again, my concern is my family. it's quite unbelievable and almost surreal i would say. >> >> and apparently the plot was even thicker because after his death, investigators found cocaine in charles gliniewicz's desk and found deleted text messages mentioning the possibility of planting something on administrator ann mayoren. it's unclear if that's whyi2 he had the cocaine. also learned that gliniewicz's weave and son are being investigated in their involvement in the embezzlement. police say they have more text messages proving that others, including family members, knew the money was being stolen. megan? trace,
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not stab someone as a youth while the candidate maintains he did. it's relevant because dr. carson says that was the beginning of a real turn around for him and beginning of redemption. the kelly file with your thoughts. have a great night. tonight, is terrorism to blame for the mysterious russian plane crash? >> it looks increasingly likely that a that was the case. >> our experts are here to weigh in. >> she looked demented. her mouth did not downturn one time. >> 016 presidential candidate carly fiorina is set to square off with the co-host of "the view." >> my message, man up. >> she will be here tonight with a preview of that showdown. >> hi, donald trump. >> and donald trump is getting ready to host snl this weekend. >> and i'm going to do the best job anyone has ever done, not saying it. >> not everybody is happy about it. and protests are mounting. >> we want