we're there, because that is also the land of processed meats and cheeses and can you never, ever, go wrong. a lot of you have been asking, neil, what can i do for you? processed meats and cheeses, i'll leave it at that. sue he then. hello, i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with geraldo rivera, tucker karlsson. dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." last week some of the hosts at "the view," said some mean things about carly fiorina's face during the cnbc's degait bait. the presidential candidate challenged them to say them to her face if she returned to the program. she just did and here's what happened. >> you were a little upset with us about -- a comic comment that was made. >> hey, if you meant your comment about my face being

demented in a halloween mask as humorous, so be it. i guess you misinterpreted donald trump's comments about my face and thought those weren't human. >> i'm not defending you against donald trump's comments, but we are comedians here, i mix on hillary's pantsuits and hillary's husband's sex life. i don't understand why any politician is exempt from my comedic jokes. >> you know what, joy. you can say whatever you want. you always have, you always will. i'm not going to stop that i'm not going to stop that. and don't worry, i have skin plenty thick enough to take whatever people throw at me. >> then they tried to accuse fiorina of capitalizing on the controversy, but carly fired right back. >> having watched some of the press that you've garnered, based on this fake feud with "the view," i'm a little taken aback. >> i think "the view" garnered a lot of publicity over this as

well. that's why you put me on the show. >> i know you used the unfortunate situation with trump to your benefit. you're making lemonade out of lemons and using the feud with "the view," as part of your fundraising campaign. you're trying to make lemonade out of lemons here, aren't you? >> you guys are telling me you guys are lemons? >> that is funny. actually. >> very good. >> my god. the commentary, while that was playing. all right. so let's take it around the table. how did it go, how do you score it, tucker? >> i mean i think carly fiorina is the most articulate person i've ever seen running for president. every single word is the exact word she intends to use, i think she's fantastic. a lot of women don't like her. very noticeable. >> i like her. >> you're an anomaly. >> how dare you. >> women, do you think they don't like her because -- >> they don't like her

personally. >> i've been made fun of on theview, you've got to get over it. it's a comedy show. >> joy behar saying i'm a comedian was the most untrue thing ever uttered on that show. >> i've hadnier bouts of diarrhea. >> we're all comedians. even if they were comedians, that's, you don't get a carve-out because you do that for a living. everybody on this planet should have a carve-out to make a joke. just because you have the title comedian doesn't make it different. and joy, she's not a comedian. she's a walking car alarm. it's just this constant shrill, and by the way, watching that thing, it was like just a pile of chaos. when they're talking and they're all piling over each other trying to get their words in and that woman at the end, who admits, that's funny. as though she's the arbiter of humor. aye-yi-yi, there was no proof. >> how many times have you made fun of hillary clinton?

>> many times. >> but you know what i won't do? i won't say i'm a comedian. because i'm not a comedian, i'm a writer. >> when you mock hillary clinton you are perceived to be attacking all women. when you attack carly fiorina, it's fair because you're attacking one woman. >> that may be true. and i don't in any way dispute the fact it may be a double-standard. but i do believe you have to have a thick skin when you run for office. >> i do think she has it. >> are you saying she's got thick skin? that's disgusting. >> only her dermatologist knows. >> she faced them, i thought it was a little impressive. there's a little bit of a ganging-up situation there. "the view" hosts also clashed with fiorina over abortion and planned parenthood. let's take a look at that. >> it seems to me that you are against programs that let women make choices for their lives. >> that's the litany of the left. the only way you can be pro woman is to agree with the left's prescriptions for women.

whether your pro choice or pro life, the majority of americans are horrified by the reality that we're harvesting baby parts. >> that is not, you know that's not true. carly, you no he no no one is harvesting baby parts. >> it's interesting that planned parenthood announced they were no longer going to take compensation for that. >> they were not harvesting baby parts. >> that offends my sensibility. to hear you say something like that. when you know it's not true. >> okay. so big factual dispute there. she's saying this is what's happening. >> so many blind spots on this whole story about planned parenthood. carly is right that planned parenthood, eventually about four weeks ago, several months after the controversy started, did on a friday afternoon say by the way we're not going to take payment for that any more. carly is right. and the problem for me on this whole thing has been that, you can be a woman, and be pro life.

it should be an acceptable thing to be. you should be able to say, i believe that life begins at conception and say that that is respectful. i think what the problem is is that immediately, if i say i believe that life begins at conception, then they think that my next step is, therefore i'm going to overturn roev wade as president. that's not what carly fiorina is saying. that kind of got lost. i kind of wish she would have been on set. i think everybody would have been better served. if you're sitting there with the people. i don't know what the circumstance was, maybe she couldn't travel to new york to be there. i think that would have helped everybody and i think that would have been a better conversation conversation for women everywhere. there are many women who believe that life does begin at conception or they are concerned about the planned parenthood videos which do exist and they are real. >> this is also a tough town for a conservative woman. who is pro life. i'm born and raised here. the norm here is that you're pro choice. that the liberal philosophies

rule. and it is a very difficult thing for a conservative woman to come and espouse ideas that are alien to those -- they're very sincere, the hosts of "the view." >> usually what happens is conservative women choose to be quiet. you fade to the background. carly fiorina is not a shrinking violet. i think it kind of surprises people. >> most people agree with carly fiorina on the planned parenthood issue. look at the polling, do you think the majority of american women -- >> the majority of americans support roev wade. >> the atrocity of the planned parenthood videos, no normal person could watch those and say they're okay. you can't. that's impossible. >> the problem isn't just "the view," it's the audiences, the studio audience you often see it with bill maher, an audience that would applaud a root canal. they have a blind spot where they cannot self-examine their

own biases. no matter what they say, like clapping seals, they will clap at anything, even when they lose an argument to carly fiorina, they still clap, they don't know what they're clapping for. they know there's an applause sign. >> but it's not root canal. they would applaud a conservative having a car crash. >> it's not about root canal. they are so ideological and they are so automatic in their responses that even bill maher is sometimes frustrated by their predictability. >> the other thing sort of strange about this thing was i thought it was great when they defended carly fiorina against donald trump's attack about her face, it's hard as a double standard for them then to make fun of her face and say we're just comedians. >> men can't do it and women can? >> i think that the whole thing could have been avoided. and i think the view attracts a good audience for conservatives, if you get a chance to be on to go and to actually make your case. that's why i think it would have been better to have done it in person. >> o'reilly handles it

magnificently when he goes on. >> he has a beautiful face, have you seen his face, he's gorgeous? >> he's a dog. >> so weird. okay. now to another liberal media attack on a republican candidate. ben carson is convinced cnn has ulterior motives by questioning accounts of his past regarding violent acts he committed as a teen. >> you feel like this is the beginning, dr. carson, the beginning of some in the media, trying to end your candidacy? >> yeah, it's a smear campaign. >> he confronted the network directly and asked why cnn didn't do the same kind of quote investigative reporting on president obama when he ran for office. >> this is a bunch of lies. that's what it is, a bunch of lies, i think it's pathetic. one of the tactics that's used by you guys in the media, particularly when someone is doing very well, is let's find a way to get them distracted and get all the people distracted.

so that we can get away from the real issues. >> dr. carson, i know you call this tactics, it's called vetting, you know it well from the short time you've been involved with this campaign. >> is that's what's done with the current president, is that what you guys did with him? >> yes, as a matter of fact -- >> no, you didn't not. it doesn't come close to what you guys are trying to do in my case. >> this is one strategy and approach to confront it directly. which i like. get out there and say this is what you guys are doing. stand up for yourself before you lose time. tucker. >> my 25th year of covering politics i've never seen a presidential candidate trying to convince the media that he stabbed a friend. >> i thought carson did fine, it's difficult to simultaneously argue that the press should have vetted the current president more, but shouldn't vet me more. of course its inbounds to question him. there was a politico piece today

that was ludicrous and crossed the line and was silly. it's been changed about 15 times. they walked it back in it they said carson and his campaign admitted they quote fabricated a story about him getting admitted into west point. that's not what happened. that's a ludicrous story. it's fair to ask questions about his background. why wouldn't it be? >> i think he's trying to point out the double standard, you're coming after me. i'm a conservative candidate. you did not give the same scrutiny to a liberal. >> what about the fact that he claims he knifed the guy in the belly. and the only reason he didn't kill the guy was because it hit his belt buckle? what is this? i'm probably the only person in this building who has been stabbed. but nobody gets stabbed, nobody gets stabbed in the belt buckle. it only happens in fantasy. it's a story that's on its face, so improbable, that he, he causes people to be skeptical. how important is that in the big picture? brilliant neurosurgeon, so measured, so intelligent, such a

great role model? i don't know. people can judge. but it seems to me a preposterous tale. it's like joseph built the pyramids to store grain. i'm sorry, but joseph didn't build the pyramids, they were built by egyptian monarchs as their burial grounds. one point you have to say -- it's not just about a guy who believes in the literal garden of eden and the world being created in six days and on the seventh day the lord rested. it's more than that. it's about a person who is s saying i came from so far down, i was stabbing my friends in the belly and only a miracle saved n and become a great person. >> the issue with those stories is they're unprovable. anecdotes from a long time ago. >> are you talking about joseph and the per mids? >> no, i'm talking about his stories. these are stories that may or may not have been exaggerated. these stories pale in comparison

in a friendship to bill ayers or a friendship to wright. questioned by cnn. >> he lived the reverend wright. i know him better than i know my own rabbi. >> cnn claims that ben carson is getting a pass on these stories. but if he's getting a pass, then president obama got a full body massage from cnn. because they, they -- avoided so many mysterious facts about president obama that they let go. i, i hear you about some of these stories and people maybe they, maybe they exaggerate. i say they put a fresh coat of paint on their stories to make it interesting to themselves. that could have been it. but they're anecdotes that can't be proven or unproven. so you let that go. but president obama had a lot of things you could find out and nobody chose to chase it. >> ultimately does this hurt ben carson? what's your take? >> i don't think so. i think the politico thing that tucker mentioned helps him in a big way. because politico screwed that up badly by saying he fabricated

something. i, that story came out when i was -- i thought it was bad. and two hours later i was going, i got tricked. >> me, too. >> dana? >> i think that if you are a republican in this particular election, and you're being attacked by the media, i don't necessarily think it hurts you when you actually can push, put it back on the media. the concern, though, for anybody that wants to run for office is that if the first political office that you're going to seek is for the presidency, you have to understand that every news organization in america is going to donate resources or to vote resources, to looking into your background and they are hungry for any sort of story and politico got ahead of themselves. i think they can expect more of this to come. a lot of other candidates have been out there for a while. there's nothing new to drudge up about them. when the first election that you run for is president of the united states, then you're open for a lot of scrutiny. >> you said drudge up. >> you turned drudge into a verb. >> can you do that? >> you just did. >> you guys can celebrate

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donald trump. >> i'm looking forward to the debates, i feel it's going to be a chance for the candidates to get at the core substantive issues. with the economy, the problems we're facing as a country. i want to hear what they have to say. what are their ideas for creating growth. for limiting government, for less regulation and to do something about taxes and the irs, i'm anxiously awaiting it. >> tucker, do you think this is a make-or-break for several of them. we're getting closer to the iowa caucuses? >> i mean in general we're moving toward a point where some of these guys are going to drop out. a lot of these people have their independent constituencies, their independent donors, think they could limp along. i think huckabee will keep going. i think christie, in particular no matter what happens, has done himself a service in the last couple of months. i think people -- >> couple of months? >> i do think that. i think -- >> two great things, he did the debate and he did the heartfelt -- video. >> the general affect has been

appealing. they're obviously disappointed that they're not in the later debate. but he's handled it really well by saying -- who doesn't like that. that's an appealing posture. >> it's very mature. it's a great attitude. he's quite popular in new hampshire with the town halls that he's doing, his message is very good. he's been working hard. you see him out there all the time. >> how can they be right on -- >> he has the money. >> i would like, i know that it's about jobs and it's about economics, but jocks and economics don't matter if your country is blown to pieces. we have a plane that might have had an isis bomb on it. we have to talk about the nsa, we have to talk about surveillance, we have to talk about intel, see whose side are you on in the world of surveillance. i want to know, i don't think rand paul, he can't be president in this climate. in the era of isis. this is why i'm kind of bummed

that lindsey graham isn't up there. i think he's good on that stuff and christie is great on it and marco rubio is great on it. i want to see how they feel about national security. because economic factors rely on your safety, on you being able to get to work. if you can't get to work. if your build something gone -- >> i think that the biggest issue right now is heroin abuse. i think chris christie. >> it's the biggest issue in new hampshire by the surveys. >> this is a national debate. >> it's a national debate. but you have to win in new hampshire if you want to be president. the only person i've heard speak of it with great passion is chris christie. >> 0 i don't think that's fair geraldo at all. first of all the debates are based on national polls. >> i'm telling you that isis is important, the bombs and so forth, all of that stuff matters. we are at 5 partly cloudy unemployment now. jobs will not be the big issue you thought it might be. i think it will be domestic issues, race, drug abuse, back

to the old kind of nuts and bolts if we have a junkie population. 50 overdose deaths in manchester, new hampshire, since the first of the year. >> heroin doesn't -- >> how much does isis kill in america. >> an individual makes their choice to abuse drugs. i don't make a choice when the guy puts a bomb in a boston marathon. >> both of the problems you all are noting stem from the same source, that is a volatile economy that leaves a lot of people out. you you cited those unemployment numbers. 41% of americans are not working right now. that's the real number. 41%. and as to the question of which is more important, the economy or our defense, one is impossible without the other. we're a strong country because we're a rich country. there's no other reason that we have the military we do. >> and one of the ways we are a strong country is to be a country that invests in its future and its energy. in fact president obama today after stringing along the labor unions for many years decided to nix the keystone pipeline today. here's his comments.

>> the keystone pipeline has occupied what i frankly consider an over-inflated role in our political discourse. america is now a global leader when it comes to taking serious action to fight climate change. and frankly, approving this project would have undercut that global leadership. >> for years that president obama played politics with this stringing along the labor unions, thinking they were at some point going to be able to go forward with these jobs. and today, greg, john kerry, the secretary of state, says how could we possibly expect other countries in the world to take action on climate if we're not willing to do it ourselves. if we're not investing in our country, what kind of disservice is that? i'm dismayed by this. not surprised, but dismayed. >> pipelines are the safest way to transport gas. safer than trucks or trains. but that doesn't help warrant buffett. who runs the burlington northern railroad, who happens to be a close friend of president obama. there's two million miles of gas

distribution pipeline everywhere. you have -- >> we have so much oil in the united states, we're squishing and black now. it's $40 a barrel now. >> look, we use pipelines for water, for sewage, for gas. all, for heating. shall we just get rid of all of that and transport it by catapult? >> the president can side with actual working people and jobs, or 27 rich people on the west side of l.a. >> you're absolutely right. >> delaying on this, he was dragging his feet. not making a decision, worked for him serendipitously why? because oil was $100 a barrel. now it's $40 a barrel. gas was $4.50 a gallon. now it's under $2 a gallon. i saw in new jersey. >> you're sucking up to -- >> why do we need a pipeline. >> it's pandering. >> when we have more oil than we need? >> the miles of pipeline everywhere. why this one? it's a political maneuver. >> but according to geraldo, we're squishing in the black

stuff and we're a junkie population. >> we have oil in the strategic petroleum reserve? >> that's a stupid idea. >> hey, agreement. still ahead, facebook friday, but first donald trump on his upcoming appearance on "saturday night live" and the controversy surrounding that.

he's with to appear on "saturday night live" tomorrow, donald trump. we give bill o'reilly a preview of what to expect. >> we're doing some bits that i think are going to be terrific. >> did you knock out any bits? >> yes, i had to. there were a couple that were risque?ue. wow. >> the poll just came down, i'm leading in iowa, i want to stay leading in iowa. i think some of it is going to

be really great. it should be a great evening, i hope. >> bottom line, risque? but terrific. his hosting gig is still on despite pressure from some latino groups on nbc to cancel his appearance. trump also spoke to fox business network about the profane ad featuring kids yelling at him calling him a racist. >> donald trump, screaming get out of my country, because he used offensive words. here's a few of our own. [ bleep ] you racist [ bleep ]. >> i think it's terrible, i think it's just terrible. to have young kids using that kind of language is a disgrace. and it's totally back-fired and people are actually going wild about it. and they're saying we're now going to support trump. anybody that would do an ad like that is stupid, to be honest, they're stupid people that would do an ad like that. >> not just stupid, geraldo, butbut nihilistic. >> i think it's borderline child

abuse, it's horrible. it's counterproductive. totally discredits the message. undermines the whole point. his immigration policy is horrible, too harsh, draconian, i'm totally opposed to it but that ad is way off the mark. it is as i said, borderline child abuse, it's terrible to use these children. i have a 10-year-old, to think that i would put her in front of a camera -- >> geraldo thinks that. who's the audience for a spot like that? >> that's what i'm thinking. the audience is not us, okay? donald trump is able to get media attention, but by just showing up anywhere. anybody will have him on at any time. what he said, and he can say that he didn't mean it, whatever. but when he said about mexicans being racist and murderers, that resonated, it hurt a lot of people. can't get attention for their message except for to do something outrageous and terrible like what they had to do with these children. but the message, they're not

trying to reach us. they're trying to reach their own community. i think it's probably very effective. >> it's terrifying that that would resonate with anyone neb. anybody. >> it's so disturbing to see children used and manipulated in this way. as a mother. geraldo and i, both latinos, both have children around that age. how can you do that this? what kind of lesson are you teaching your children that it's okay to speak like that and be part of that kind of process? i think it's totally back-fired. >> other groups are trying to prevent trump from even appearing on "saturday night live." i understand people don't agree with him, obviously. >> if you believe somebody's ideas are terrible, you should want them aired, you should want them viewed. you're a coward if you try to shut down somebody's speech. about that video, i disagree with you, i, this is the audience for that video. because that, this video gets played more often on fox news than anywhere else. it's the same guy who did the other videos with the kids. it's a tribute to horrible parenting. the parents that allow their

children to do this, this, this video is forever. so if this kid ever wants to get a job or whatever, this is always going to be there. in his, in his pedigree of past experiences. and it makes me wonder, if you put your child out there to do disturbing political acts, does that make, does that make it okay for you to equally go after the child? and make fun of that child and verbally abuse that child? because the parent obviously didn't even think of that. >> the people that made this video assume that the america these kids will grow up to and have it will applaud ads like that. >> i think this is all to make a commercial director career. >> let me make a news point. at 6:00 p.m. tomorrow evening eastern, a huge coalition of latino groups plans a demonstration in front of trump's building at 57th and fifth avenue and march to 30 rock, just a block away with where they do "saturday night

live." they plan a huge rally there at 7:30 saturday night. they tape the rehearsal show at 8:00. it is possible that trump will be taping the rehearsal show, the fall-back show, that they use in case something goes wrong. that the sounds of you know, "trump is a racist" will be echoing in the background. >> he shouldn't be allowed to express his views, it's unamerican. facebook friday coming up next.

first question from cindy w, start from kimberly whrks what is your favorite part of being on tv? >> the money! pay me. >> they give her $100. >> i did and i will. >> here you go. >> thank you very much.

>> $100 bill. >> we are so -- middle -- >> that's the free market. >> geraldo -- traveling, i've been to over 150 countries, six other continents, as a war correspondent, roving reporter. you see the world. >> in nice hotels. >> over the horizon. >> sometimes nice, sometimes getting shot. >> tucker favorite part of being on tv. >> the fact that it's live and can you toely screw ltotally s. >> adrenaline. any day could be your last, dana. >> it is different every day and it is precarious. it's like being on a high wire without a net. i love the commercial breaks. >> they are -- >> they are very clever in this show. >> they're fun. >> they're fun, though. >> my favorite part of the job is that i'm being paid to do what i did in home room. this is all, if you told me that i was like, fwhas home room sitting around, making jokes to

people, that somehow that would be my job. is pretty amazing, i'm not even doing, i'm sitting while i'm doing it. this is just like home room. i'm not standing, i'm sitting. >> you get paid to do nothing. facebook fridays. >> my outfits, are exactly the same. i didn't have to buy new clothes. thnchts is from sheila p., dana what kind of student were you in class? >> terrible. >> hard-hitting. >> everybody knows that the answer to that. excellent student, i think. i just feel like i didn't try hard enough, though. >> what? >> i wish i had tried harder. >> didn't you get straight as. >> you said your poor self-esteem made you a great student. you try harder. you're the type of person that would do your homework and my homework. >> i would make up homework for you. >> she makes up homework for us now. what has changed. >> i bet you didn't even go to class, tucker. you didn't go to college. >> i did, not the college of my

choice, but i did go. >> you don't mention your alma mater. >> it was fine. it's the one business you can go into where they don't care about your background. it doesn't matter, all that matters is what you can do. it was a welcoming place for a bad student. >> you mean tv? >> i was a print guy. >> what about you? >> i was good until i was bad in high school. i went very bad. stumbled through college really. but law school, top of the class. >> good for you. >> always top of the class, geraldo. you were a good student? >> hello, 4.0. graduate with honors. >> i never had to make the money. >> time for one more question. what was your favorite toy as a child geraldo? >> i like guns. >> i liked guns. >> you mean toy guns. >> toy guns. >> want to make that clear. >> g.i. joe. kimberly, what was your favorite toy. don't say boys.

>> that hasn't changed. no my favorite toy, i loved barbie dolls, i'm kind of dressed like them. >> they are sexist, barbie dolls, they create an unrealistic view of womanhood. >> and wear impossible shoes. >> tucker did you have a favorite toy in. >> the crossman 760 powermaster. the greatest b.b. gun ever. >> what about you, dana? >> i was more of a fisher-price kind of gal. i had a barn and whenever you opened it. >> what about the easy-bake oven? >> i never had an easy-bake oven. i'm still bitter about it, mom. >> my favorite toy was a pillow case full of oranges. so anyway, we got to go. >> is that a literary reference? >> no. >> it's a perversion. >> it's like a prison weapon. >> mom, i apologize, if we had an easy-bake oven.

>> you were in colorado, so you had an easy-baked oven. >> justice janine on her new book about robert durst. (patrick 1) what's it like to be the boss of you?

(patrick 2) pretty great. (patrick 1) how about a 10% raise? (patrick 2) how about 20? (patrick 1) how about done? (patrick 2) that's the kind of control i like... ...and that's what they give me at national car rental. i can choose any car in the aisle i want- without having to ask anyone. who better to be the boss of you... (patrick 1)than me. i mean, you...us. (vo) go national. go like a pro.

who can name the third president? and the largest planet? someone we haven't heard from. anyone else? when comcast offered low-cost high-speed internet to low-income families, more than two million hands went up. and pretty soon, so did everyone's in the classroom. ok, veronica. amphibian excellent! internet essentials from comcast. helping to bridge the digital divide.

robert durst is according to our friend, a savage and murdering fiend, he killed his ex-wife and is accused of killing another woman and admitted to dismembering a third person. judge janine has a new book out, detailing her 15-year quest to bring the accused killer to justice called "he killed them all" also the subject of a riveting special airing this weekend. >> we took a trip to the pine barrens in southern new jersey. why? because it's a dense, million-acre forest. a really great place to bury a body. mobsters did it all the time. when i first reopened kathleen durst's case, we began piecing together a puzzle.

and the pine barrens fit right in. >> the host of judge janine joins us right now. so judge, are you obsessed with this man? or do you think that a grave injustice has been done and you're determined to bring it to his victims. >> officially i don't know if that's the right world. but i'll tell you what i am concerned about and that is kathleen durst and her family finding out 33 years later now, after 1982, when she first went missing, where she is, where her body is as we indicate in the special tomorrow night, i believe that he killed her in westchester. chopped her up and then buried her in the pine barrens. why do i think he chopped her up? how could i know that? i'm watching "the jinx" and robert durst, a great series on hbo. they asked him, what do you think pirro was looking for in the lake and durst says, body parts. i jumped out of my chair. not my wife's body. not my wife. not a body, body parts. i said he chopped her up as

well. which is why -- >> he did chop up the third victim. >> he chopped up the senior citizen and got off of that because the jury believed that you know, i was chasing him and he really didn't have any other choice but to chop up the body. >> he admitted that. he said i killed the guy and cut him up and put him in the suitcase. >> killed him in self-defense, cut him up and threw him in the bay because jeannie pirro was chasing me. >> his money protected him? >> absolutely. one of the things that motivates me. money, the name, the power, the misogyny in 1982 that if a woman in medical school disappears six weeks away from graduation, she probably fell off the face of the earth. are you kidding? in 1982, if she's in medical school, she's a woman who is going to go out there, be a medical doctor. but the cops are willing to say okay, she's probably ran off with another guy. no evidence, nothing. and that's when i fought for as a prosecutor. >> do you think that his family is protecting him? or does his family fear that he

will victimize them as well? >> well i think now, the family realizes that he may victimize them as well. but i think that had the family at least spoken with the police in 1982, they were never spoken to according to the victim's family, the mccormicks, the dursts threw them out of their apartment when the poor mccormicks went there saying maybe you can help us find our daughter, our sister. and it was nothing. possibly had more been done two more people would not have died. and i watched the whole thing happen. >> "the new york times," never a fan of yours when you were the crime-busting d.a. up in westchester. the fears that your book will help the defense because you give away all of the prosecution's secrets. >> that's such a bunch of hogwash. no one knows better than-day what's going to hurt a defense or what's going to hurt a prosecution case, this is what i did as 30 years, as prosecutor, judge, d.a., that's a bunch of hooey and they're a left-wing newspaper. >> on that point i have a question for a friend. if you're planning a murder, is

it better to do it yourself or to hire someone? because if you hire someone, there's somebody else that knows. or is it better even though you're inexperienced in doing it. to do it yourself and eliminate that possibility? >> just so i don't give away secrets what do you think? >> i don't know. that's why i'm asking. >> you already posited. you do it yourself. you know that. >> diy when it comes to murder. >> just asking for a friend. >> nobody here at this table, right? >> right. >> are you excited about the special? tell us about it. >> i think the special was, it's an hour-long, tomorrow night, sunday night. the good part of it is that i got to work with the investigators and prosecutors, who used to work with me in the d.a.'s office and it was old times, you know there's no better job than being the d.a. no better job in the world. >> judge janine, thank you very much. >> go out and grab a copy "he killed them all" and watch robert durst "my quest for justice" saturday and sunday night.

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