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gave snl a huge ratings boost. as a matter of fact, the highest since 2012. in case you missed it, here are some of the highlights. >> but the truth is, i'm a nice guy. i don't hold grudges against anybody. like rosie o'donnell. the fact is when i showed up for rehearsal, rosie was here to support me. come on out, rosie. >> sir, as i have told you several times, my name is aidy bryant and i'm a cast member on this show. ♪ call me on the cell phone >> donald. >> enrique. >> i brought you the check for the war. >> it's so over. >> it's the american people, sir. they're just sick of winning. they're winning so much. it's just too great, sir. >> look, i know how they feel.

it's exhausting. if you think that's how it's going to be when i'm president, you're wrong. it's going to be even better. >> joining us now with reaction is the author of crippled america. how to make america great again. 2016 republican presidential candidate donald trump. it looked like you had a great time. did you have fun doing that? >> i did. it was really fantastic. i was so happy to see when the numbers came in the following day, the ratings, it made me very happy to see it. because it is a lot of work and it's a lot of pressure, frankly. you're on there. you know if you make a little mistake, you will be criticized very badly for it. people treated me nicely and the number of viewers -- i guess it was almost 50% higher than the opening night which was with hillary and miley cyrus. so i can tell you lorne michaels and everybody over at "saturday night live," sean, they were very happy. >> did you -- were there some skits that you felt were a little too over the top? it was reported that maybe you don't want to do this? i'm in the middle of a

presidential campaign. did that happen? >> yeah, there were. i could have done some things that would have been wildly popular, but i thought it would have been inappropriate. they had one conceivably where you attack ben, and i didn't think that would be nice under the circumstances. and they had a couple of others that were a little bit risque. and i thought maybe it wouldn't have been so good. it would have been good for viewers. i don't think it would have been good for me in terms of running for an election. >> we showed the moment where the, quote, president of mexico says here's the check for the wall. there was another moment, larry david, because we had the controversy leading into this appearance. let me show that and ask you if that was an opportunity for you. let's roll the tape. >> we're going to have a lot of fun tonight. >> you're a racist. >> who is hell is -- i knew this was going to happen. who is that? >> trump's a racist!

>> it's larry david. what are you doing, larry? >> i heard if i yelled that, trade give me $5,000. >> as a businessman, i can fully respect that. that's okay. >> in a way, for those that have been critical of you, was that an opportunity for you to say this is ridiculous? >> i think so. it was something that i approved, and it was even my idea to a certain extent. and i thought so. larry was fantastic. he's a great guy. and he said, let's do this. because people saying well, maybe somebody in the audience will say this. maybe we can do it first. that would be great. it was played all over the world. that whole thing was -- i mean, many of the parts. the mexican wall was the most popular. a check for $200 billion or something. it was just fun. his line was i don't need this much money. i held up the check, well, i don't need this much money.

it was for $200 billion or something. so it was fun. but very true in a lot of ways. i will build a wall. the wall will be built. it will be a real wall. it done properly. people will not -- all you have to do is ask israel how do walls work because there are walls that work, believe me. and this wall will work. and people will come into the country, but they'll come in legally. and everyone's going to be happy. we'll stop the drug trade, we'll stop a lot of things that are happening right now. it's a cesspool right now what's going on. people are coming in that are loaded up with drugs and they're selling drugs. a lot of great people are coming through but a lot of people are coming in that should not be coming through the border. this has nothing to do with anything. just we need a wall. we need it badly. you see what's happened. you look at kate in san francisco. you look at jameel in los angeles. i mean, crime is unbelievable what's going on. we'll straighten it out.

by the way, peel wilople will c into the country but they'll come in legally. >> i read your book, which you just released. you seem to soften a hair where you maybe wanted to revise and extend your remarks when you said the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are honest, decent, hardworking people that came to improve their lives, their children's lives. >> true. >> but do you think if you had a do-over, you would have said that first and we're also getting murderers and rapists which we also know to be a fact, too? >> well, you know, look, i say -- i speak very bluntly. and i think we have to speak -- it's not politically correct maybe sometimes. i think the way i said it was proper. i think people looked at it -- it's very interesting when i made my opening remarks, everyone thought i made a wonderful speech. we went for a week and a half and somebody said maybe we could

interpret it a certain way. they misinterpreted what i said. i'm number one in the polls in every single -- i think i'm number one in every single state. i'm number one again in iowa. i had lost iowa for a period of time and i didn't quite understand it. i think i would have done exactly what i'm doing. >> you're right, the last two iowa polls has you in the lead. fox news, quinnipiac. 84 days until the iowa caucuses. why do you think you had the hiccup? and number two, what are your plans -- i was asking you last time, everyone's telegraphing they're coming at you with guns blazing and a lot of money in negative ads. how are you going to counter that? >> if they do, i go after them times ten. that's what the deal is. there's no reason for that. for the republicans, that's a bad thing for the republican party. if they do, i come after them times ten. that's the way the game is played, i guess. i will say there wasn't much of

a hiccup because most of the polls had me at number one. then a poll came out, cbs, where i was a little bit behind. people were talking about i was bigger than benghazi, the one poll, finally, and they were so thrilled. but there wasn't much of a hiccup because if you look at new hampshire, south carolina, nevada, no matter where you look, i was number one. you look at the state of florida, the great state of florida. i mean, all of them number one. now i'm number one again in iowa. and which i'm very -- you know, i was very surprised to see that i was a little behind in iowa because i have such a great relationship with the people of iowa. in fact, i'm going there next week. i don't think it was as much of a hiccup as you said. >> it did break your streak of being in the lead in the polls. let me ask you about ben carson. you said four times in one day that he had a pathological disease. he's admitted that he had anger

issues when he was a young kid, that he did go after his mother with a hammer, that he nearly tried to stab somebody. the issue came out -- i thought he actually dwav a pretty good explanation about the rotc and west point. why do you say a pathological disease when the narrative of his life story is that he changed his life from that point forward and then he became a student and then he became a doctor and followed his dream. >> because he wrote it. i didn't say it. he wrote it. he wrote that in a book. he wrote in his book that he had a -- either pathological disease or a pathological temper. actually one of the shows called it a disease and i don't know if that's the word he used but pathological was the word he used and i think he might have used temper. when you say you're pathological about something, like usually you associate it with the word

"liar," he's a pathological liar. but he wrote that in his book. that wasn't me saying it. i was surprised it was in the book. and it was reported on lightly. i've gotten along great with ben, but he's having a hard time. the pyramids are solid structures. you can't put grain in the pyramids because they're solid structures other than a little thing for the pharaohs in the bottom, as you understand, okay? but the pyramids, as an example, they're not built for grain because they're solid. these are very strong solid structure. they don't have beams going across connecting and big hollow spaces underneath. they're solid. so i don't quite get that one. but there were other things. but the word "pathological" was used in his book by ben. >> we'll take a break. we'll come back. more with donald trump after the break. tomorrow the big fox business debate. we'll ask him what his strategy is going in. then later 2016 presidential candidate marco rubio.

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chipotle stores in the mid west. a series of tests were done but came back negative. about 40 people were sickened. >> sea world is ending it's killer whale show, saying it will continue to have orcas but come 2017 showing them in a more-natural state rather than doing tricks. animal rights activists are calling this a a gimmick. they want the whales to be freed from captivity. presidential candidate donald trump. mr. trump, i know a lot of outrageous things are said during campaigns. political action committee came out with an ad exploiting children attacking you. one of the worst ones i've ever seen in my career following politics. i want to play a little of it and get your response. let's roll tape. >> hello donald trump.

screaming down of my country using offensive words. >> here's a few of our own. >> [ bleep ] you racist [ bleep ]. >> we're latino kids born in the usa! >> yo, trump, you may be high in the polls. >> thanks to racist [ bleep ]. but -- >> if you [ bleep ] you use the constitution to make me a citizen. >> you hate me because i'm brown. >> and you say you're -- >> but you want to tear the bill of rights. >> i'm an american. >> born in the usa! >> this is my home. >> you can't take my rights away. >> if you don't like our constitution and what it stands for, get the [ bleep ] out of my country. >> what's your reaction to that? >> i think it's sad, it's pathetic. it's been horribly received. people that actually were somewhat opposed to me are now

big fans of mine. they thought it was a disgrace that an ad like that could take place. that would use that kind of language with children. they think the people that, frankly, put them up probably are, like many of our politicians incompetent. because it's a virtually incompetent ad. to use children with that kind of language is disgraceful. i've actually gotten a lot of support because of those ads. >> you and marco rubio have had a back and forth going. you said that marco rubio can't handle his own credit card, how is he going to be able to handle u.s. finances. his retort was his father never lent him a million dollars to get his business started. why is this such an issue? because the back and forth continues. >> this is not my issue. this is an issue that's been brought up about marco. this came out of the jeb bush fight with marco and people have been talking about his credit cards and his use of credit cards. this is not my issue with marco. i couldn't care less. it's an issue that he'll resolve

hopefully. i'd like toy s see him resolve . this is not my issue with marco. this is an issue that's been going on for a while. >> you also talked about -- and it's been written about on national review in particular and they've been particularly hard on you, and you talked about your transition from being a democrat to a republican. and what you said was, you know, you saw what liberal democrats were doing to the country. you said, a single payer is not going to work here. and this wasn't really an evolution. you say it's who you've always been but you saw how bad the left's policies, the impact that it's had on the country. can you explain that maybe to some conservatives that say, well, he just recently became a republican? >> well, it's not recent. it's a long time ago. but ronald reagan became -- ronald reagan was a liberal democrat essentially. and he decided as he grew old older -- and this does happen with quite a few people, he became a republican. a somewhat conservative republican, actually. and he was terrific.

and i was a democrat, and i was also in a city that was almost entirely democrat. if you look at manhattan and new york city where had i worked and had my business and started my business, everybody was democrat. republicans don't even run people for many offices because they have no chance. you grow up in that environment. but as time went by, i just liked the conservative principles much more. i think they work more, i think they work better. and i just -- gravitated toward that. >> i consider myself a reagan conservative. i'm a registered conservative in new york, which you can do and you can't do in a lot of states. if you had to explain to somebody in just a few words, how do you describe yourself politically? >> well, i'm a conservative person. i would say that republican reagan conservative would be another way of doing it. i was a big fan of ronald reagan. i thought a lot of him. i'm a republican. but i'm a republican conservative. and we have to throw reagan in

there because, you know, i believed in him. >> mr. trump, thank you for your time. as always, we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> and coming up next tonight right here on "hannity" -- >> i didn't inherit any money from my parents. we worked hard. i had to borrow money to go to school. i paid back that loan. i have one principal mortgage on my home, which most americans have. >> senator rubio under attack for personal finance issues. he's here to set the record straight. later, mark steyn. he's here to preview the republican debate. growing racial tension on the campus of the university of missouri. the president resigned today. that and more. we'll check in with david limbaugh as we continue. phil! oh no... (under his breath) hey man! hey peter. (unenthusiastic) oh... ha ha ha! joanne? is that you? it's me... you don't look a day over 70. am i right?

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scrutiny from the mainstream media and now in an effort to put questions about his personal spending to rest, over the weekend he released more of the senator's credit card statements. joining us now, 2016 republican presidential candidate florida senator marco rubio. senator, especially with donald tlup, who i just asked about, you know, it seems to be a back and forth with you and him. well, if he can't control his credit card, how is he possibly going to manage the nation's finances. what's your response to him? >> i'm not sure someone who like donald trump who has taken four companies into bankruptcy should be lecturing anyone about finances. what he's referring to is the credit card statements from my time as the leader of the republican party campaigns. we've released those. it showed what i always said. that the overwhelming majority of the expenses under that card that were secured under my personal credit, and the personal expenses i paid for. this was an issue back in 2010

when charlie crist tried to raise it. it's an effort to distract from the central issue of the campaign which is the finances of the american people. we have millions in this country that have given up looking for work. we have records of people under barack obama and the for the first time in 35 years we have more businesses failing than starting. this campaign needs to be about. we should spend as much time focused on those issues which i know the left doesn't want to focus on because they want to distract from the failures of barack obama, failures that hillary clinton only wants to expand upon. >> especially after the last debate, you have now -- you are now third nationally in the quinnipiac poll, "the wall street journal" poll. two polls in iowa now have you in third place. two new hampshire polls have you in third place. solid third place behind donald trump and ben carson. how do you account for this rise? and how do you take it to the next level? >> well, you know, one of the

things i never tried to do was spend a lot of time thinking about polls because they're going to go up and down. we've obviously been up in the polls, and down, back up again and down. the only poll that matter is when you show up at the iowa caucus. and these voters have the right to change their mind multiple times. i'll answer questions and so forth, but we'll focus on what this campaign is about. for me it's about the millions of people that say we feel like we no longer belong in our own country. a government completely out of touch. people with traditional values are being called haters and bigots. we have an economy that's leaving people struggling with the daily cost of living. young americans straddled with student loans, businesses that can't survive, small business formation is down. around the world being humili e humiliated by the chinese, vladimir putin, iran, radical jihadists. seems no matter who you elect,

nothing changes. that frustration needs to be met. >> so you got elected president of the united states, i agree with you, i feel is same way about the nearly 95 million americans out of the labor force, 50 million in poverty, 46 million on food stamps, median income down, health care costs up. people really suffering and struggling. your first 100 days, you'll do what to get the economy back rolling so it will help those people? >> i mean, on my first day in office, we're going to start, we're going to repeal the epa rules like the clean power, the waters of the u.s., all these ridiculous environmental rules that are destroying not just the energy sector but american economic growth. i'm going to order every american agency that's working on common core to immediately desist. we'll move to stop any taxpayer funding of abortions whether in the united states or abroad. we'll stop any efforts to gross guantanamo and try to transfer these terrorists either to the united states or in some cases releasing them to other countries. and we're going to cancel the

deal with iran. on my first day in office we'll reimpose those sanctions. that's just my first day in office. all of that will come after i put my left hand on the bible and my right hand in the air and swear to uphold the constitution of the united states. and unlike the current president, i will actually mean that when i take that oath. >> you came in in 2010 as a tea party conservative. you were down really even late in that race against charlie crist, if i recall, your campaign really surged late in the campaign. and you're a tea party conservative. the only criticism that i hear about you goes back to one issue and that's immigration. and the deal that you tried to do. and it's the only one that i hear. but yet it seems to be such a big issue in this campaign. what do you say to conservatives that may still have residual resentment and anger over that one issue? >> well, look, i live in a state that's deeply impacted by immigration. i was trying to make a difference.

i was trying to produce the most conservative bill possible in a state controlled by democrats and what we underestimated was how much people distrust the federal government. in essence, it's not enough to just pass a law that says we will build a wall. they want you to actually build the wall, then they'll let you move forward on the other things. we reached a point in the debate where people said it doesn't matter what the law says you will do or make them do, they won't do it. the only way forward on immigration isn't just to pass enforcement bills but to actually do it. prov to the american people not just that e-verify has been implemented and the wall has been built, you have to prove that it's working, that illegal immigration numbers have come substantially down. if we do that, people will be reasonable about how we modernize legal immigration. that it's about merit. >> let me do a follow-up in this way. what you just said about

stopping the iranian deal, the things with the epa, your first day in office will be very appealing to conservatives that will be voting in this primary. you told me you thought it was a mistake going along with the immigration deal. but people want one more step further. if you didn't respect our laws and sovereignty, you don't get it is acceptship. are you prepared to say that? >> first of all, i don't think we're going to get to that stage of debate until we do the other two things. you won't get to that until you get to the enforcement and then dealing with the second part which is the modernization. now, the majority position in our party is that it should stop at just a work permit. as i've said before that's the majority position. as i said, i personally am open to allowing people to apply for a green card after ten years have passed and they've passed background check and they learned english and paid a fine and paid taxes, ten years after all that has happened i'm personally open to people applying for a green card. that's not a majority position

in my party. so i don't know what the circumstances will look like in 10, 15, 20 years from now. >> it has to be clear before any discussion of this, the borders will be 100% secure. >> it's not even about discussion. you can't even move to the second step which is modernizing legal immigration until you haven't just passed laws on enforcement and you have to prove results. if the american people see this is actually happening, then you've been able to deal with the distrust they have. you can't say trust us, we're going to do it. it has to happen. they need to see it. when that happens, that's the key that unlocks the door to the other reforms that are needed. like the one that i think is really important. we have to change our legal immigration system to a merit based system. people should be coming here on the basis of what they can do, what skills they have, not whether or not you have a relative living here. it reflects the realities of the 21st century economy. >> good luck in the debate tomorrow night. we always appreciate your time.

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what do they have to do? what are you looking for tomorrow night for somebody to break through? >> yeah. they have to demonstrate that they're still in the game. i think it's particularly important for jeb bush and for carly fiorina, who basically is cruising on nothing but the fact that she's what they call on broadway a critic's darling and she has these great nights in debates and it doesn't quite translate into anything afterwards. >> but the first two did. after the second debate -- >> a little bump. and then it fades. but it's not -- it doesn't seem to sustain. and i think also it's going to be interesting to see how ben carson, who is basically just had this irresistible rise so far, whether he -- how he reacts to the rather wobbly week he's had with these accuse aations f politico. >> it sort of was a continuation of theme started in the last

debate that the media is abusively biased, their questioning was over the top, it seemed like the moderators wanted to join the debate themselves. they had an opinion and they expressed it. >> yeah. >> it seemed like a win for the republicans and a loss for the media. >> oh, no, and i think ben carson reacted in absolutely the right way. i mean, by the way, he's running on biography. the last candidate to run purely on biography was barack obama in 2008 and his memoir is full of complete total balderdash from beginning to end. if you recall, he has this thing about how his step-grandfather in indonesia died a heroic death fighting for his country's independence against the horrible dutch imperialists. it turns out that in reality, he died because he fell off a chair while he was trying to change the curtains. and that -- instead of the press

hectoring barack obama about that and saying, well, maybe you could, you know, do an awareness -- >> or the health care story. >> -- how you should secure the ladder and be careful when you are changing the drapes, they gave him a complete pass on that. so the message here is you stand up to these people. you don't play on their terms. and you kick them in the teeth when they come after you. and both trump and carson have been doing that. >> so let's start with the top tier. if you're donald trump, if you're ben carson, what do you plan on tomorrow night? >> well, i think trump is in a pretty good position because his main rival was carson, and it may be that carson, the shine is just off him just in time for iowa. with carson, i think it's interesting because no one can quite explain carson right. he had these debates. the cnn one, he didn't say anything. he was on national tv for three hours and said not a word and his numbers just rose into the

strato fear afterward. so we're dealing with a different kind of phenomenon here. for him, the question is just whether he can neutralize some of these attacks and present his general likability. trump, i think has played actually a brilliant game, and the people who talk about trump as an idiot, he's now been in the lead since he entered this campaign. that's unprecedented in presidential politics for an outsider like this, and he has this almost unerring instinct on when to say something and when to sit back and let the other guys go at it like a bunch of -- >> "saturday night live" was a home run for him. i think in a lot of ways. it took issues off the table that were there. here's the check for the wall. and larry david in the back. let me move on to the second tier. >> yeah. >> what would you tell cruz and rubio who had a nice bounce

after the last debate. >> with cruiz, he has to do wha he did last time, to have one moment that is the moment -- as you said, sean, they'll be teaching in debate school for years to come. that's the side of cruz that is -- separates him from the crowd. he can think on his feet. he's brilliantly nimble. he has this terrific memory. all he has to do is just punch through and have one moment like that that is the moment that's replayed over and over again. >> and marco? >> and i think -- and marco rubio i think just has to be -- marco rubio is basically -- cruz is going for -- there's carson and trump who are carson and trump. cruz is basically the conservative choice at the moment and he hasn't got a lot of competition in there. rubio, the establishment choice, he's the lead of the establishment. he's got to be careful that bush and kasich and the other establishment guys don't land anything on him.

he's actually -- he's nimbler than bush. bush is not nimble in these debates nor is kasich. if you go up against rubio on the evidence the last time around he's going to be able to punch those guys down. >> what do you do if you're jeb bush at this point and by all expectations going into this primary he's underperforming. he's now at 4% in the latest poll. what would you advise him? >> well, he's been -- he started out this debate season standing next to trump in number two in the first fox news debate. and he's now moving further further toward the end of the line. the fact is he's been unable to tell us why a third bush in a quarter century ought to be president of the united states in a nation of 300 million people. you're asking people to do something extraordinary. to say that the bushes are so indispensable to the health of the republic that we need three

guys from the same family to be president in a quarter century. if you are asking the american people to support you on that, you ought to know long before this stage what your rationale for running is. it's not just good enough to say that you're a competent state governor or competent administrator. you're asking the american people to do something extraordinary, that would be extraordinary in any democratic free representative society and you ought to have a better explanation as to why you're so indispensable than jeb bush does. it's amazing to me. >> mark steyn, thank you, sir. students forced the school's president to resign earlier today. david limbaugh is here. looks like some folks have had it with their airline credit card miles. sometimes those seats cost a ridiculous number of miles... or there's a fee to use them. i know. it's so frustrating. they'd be a lot happier with the capital one venture card.

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welcome back to "hannity." earlier today the president of the university of missouri, tim wolfe, resigned from his position after growing protests and criticism by students and some faculty members over his handling of recent racial issues on campus. just hours ago the school's chancellor announced he'll step down at the end of the year. the university's football team also got media attention for boycotting all team-related activities and the head coach

tweeting out this photo saying the mizzou family stands as one. we are united. and we are behind our players. here with reaction, author, columnist and the author of the brand-new book "the emmaus code." full disclosure he's been my attorney. >> i'm a graduate and law school, yes. >> i thought they were very slow in handling some of these incidents. >> yeah. >> feces in the residence hall, making swastikas. >> i'm not sure why that occurred. the only thing that bothers me about all this, we abhor the racism and can't deny the perception that these incidents are very serious and pointed to systemic racism. but i don't think that there's systemic race imgoing on there. i hate for this to taint the entire university and the state. i wish we would calm things down

and understand that there is th -- isn't in kind of rampant racism that there used to be in the country. >> your last book was on religion. this book "the emmaus code" you balance between the two. >> the first was persecution, it dealt with christians in the united states. the last book, the six, the last before this one was jesus on trial. it was an apologetic defense of the christian faith. and this one is about the old testament and finding jesus. >> i'm a huge fan of your political views. i read your column every week when it comes out. and i read this. the amount of knowledge in this is spectacular to me. and the first question maybe for the viewer's sake because i've read it is for them, what is the emmaus code, this is a very specific incident. specific location. >> the emmaus road, a story in

the bible told in the gospel of luke, jesus encountered two of his apostles in one of his resurrection appearances in three days after he was dead and buried, yes. and they were walking along alo despondent. they expected jesus to redeem israel. he died without so much as a whimper in terms of redeeming israel politically so christ, they didn't recognize him. he told them whoe was and took them through the scriptures, meaning the old testament and showed how every bit of it pointed to him, their hearts burned within them. >> nobody understood? >> right. we have progressive revelation in the bible. christians believe jesus christ is presented in shadow and form. but once we have the benefit of the new testament and writers we

do it through those lenses we can see jesus clearly and have our own epiphany. >> i am just impressed at the scholarly intellectual level of study here you have put in your life. besides politics, this is your passion. >> i've had a lot of good mentors and have been in the right direction. and i have a final plug for them, i have 21,000 plugs for them. and i am able to do incredible research. it's not that hard. no brag. >> i studied theology and took latin in high school. the level of knowledge and foundational knowledge that you have here is spectacular. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> talking about the book about salvation history was interesting to me. >> well, yes.

a lot of people think the bible is just nice stories to add spiritual implications but we conservative christians believe that the bible presents history. and it's not all of history. there are all kinds of gaps. it's a history about god's intervention in human history, to present man kind an offer of salvation. it's a redemption, salvation history, so from the time god fell, god offered them a route and salvation a announcing in genesis... >> you call this progressive revelation. >> he told the serpent i'm going to put in between you and the seed of the woman, the off spring of the woman is christ because he was born of a woman and of the holy spirit. so we know, and paul affirmed

that they're talking about christ then. >> between your last book and this book, it's like a puzzle. >> yes. >> you're hoping to put it together. >> yes. >> this is really well done. the level of study is amazing. >> thank you. it's not just prophecys. it's all connected. >> thank you. >> appreciate the book. >> coming up next, question of the day, and our ask sean segment, straight ahead, hope you'll join us. as introductions go, this is a name you don't want to forget.

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so what question do you want the fox business network moderators to ask to the candidates at tomorrow night's debate? just go to facebook and twitter and let us know what you think. time for the questions on our ask sean segment. >> hi, sean, wondering how you think speaker ryan concedes what john boehner said. >> it's simple. 60% of the republican base feel washington republicans failed them. you've got to reestablish trust. trade is a strong word. my advice to speaker ryan get that trust back, i would come up with bold ideas that will help the country, secure the boreder, balance the budget, limited government. energy independence. put these promises onpaper. and then, fulfill the promises if they do that and make them bold, inspired differences

rather than pale pastels that ronald reagan talked about, the country would be in better shape. if you have a question, use #asksean. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. greta goes "on the record" right now. >> it's just hours away. this is the eve of the big presidential debate on fox j% and tonight with tension no doubt building, fireworks flying between g.o.p. candidates. the two g.o.p. frontrunners donald trump and dr. ben carson on the aas they fight for the lead in the polls. >> he writes a book where he went after his mother, hit her on the head or wanted to hit her on the head with a hammer. hitting a friend in the face with a lock, with a padlock, hard in the face. stabbing somebody. he wrote this book prior to thinking about running for office. i] assume. but, you know, he said he has pathological. >> so you don't believe him, do you? >> well, if you have pathological disease, that's a problem. he wrote it. i didn't write it. but, you know, he is going to have to explain a lot of things away.