now you have to keep a promise and not tell them. between them and of course, sandra and trish and jerry we'll be there, all business. hello, i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with juan williams, eric bolling, dana perino and jesse waters, it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." the stage is set and the republican candidates are ready to face off. we are just hours away from tonight's presidential debate on the fox business network. both the early and late debate will focus heavily on the economy. so the question now -- will the candidates be able to convince the voters they have what it takes to fix the economy and get more americans back to work? here's a preview of what we can expect. >> we have an economy that's leaving people struggling with a

day, daily cost of living. young americans straddled with student loans, businesses that can't survive. small business formation in america is down. >> we have 4.1 million federal employees, we're not going to replace them as thousands retire. we have 645 government agencies and subagencies, we can cut at least 1% out of each one of those in terms of fat. without any problem whatsoever. >> we're losing $400 billion a year with china in terms of imbalance. they're killing us and in every respect, currency manipulators, what they're doing is beating us with the currency manipulation, and other things. >> all right, we've got a preview of what to expect tonight. it's going to be fantastic, you make sure that you tune in, bolling, la do you think? >> i think, remember the answers can go -- the answers can go in 90-secondances, that's quite a bit of time. so you better have a lot of facts and information to deliver.

the two most ready for this because of their past are trump and carly. they can talk about numbers and taxes and employment and payroll. they can talk all the things that i think the american voters want to hear. i believe the ones that are going to have, i think ben, honestly he's a fantastic person, he's a great human being, he's a wonderful neurosurgeon. but he has a hard time with the numbers stuff. i went through his tax plan. it's so vague, i'm telling you, it's like it hasn't even been addressed yet. they wi they really need to lock these things down. give me tax levels. there's no specific capital levels. i like what he's saying about capital gains and corporate taxes. what are you basing your numbers on? how much is this tax plan going to cost you? based on this type of gdp growth going forward? i think jeb will nail that stuff down. by the way, guys, jeb has this

understand stuf down. and marco rubio will, too. i think they will be really diverse complete spectrum of what you're going to see tonight on numbers. >> you like it because you love the numbers and you love the economy and talking about the free market. dana, who needs to do what tonight? >> they all need to start showing that they could be commander-in-chief and also that they have command of the economy beyond rhetoric. i would say this is a no-talking points zone. as soon as i hear that, i would tune out. i also would tune out if i hear too many specifics on numbers. because the way that the ear hears things, you start to tune out. i think the most important thing for any of the candidates is to be able to show that they understand the problems of people like me, or you at home, the viewer. people are wondering if you have what it takes to understand the economy and if you have some proposals to move it forward. it's a little bit of a tougher sell on the economy now than in the past eight years because the unemployment rate is so low. that's an easy sound byte to say, but labor participation is

at its highest. you have to be able to explain what that means. meaning that nonparticipation, that it's the highest, more people want to work than are working. and people that have decided to just give up is higher than ever before in the history of our country. that is what i think people should, tonight, should do that. i'm going to add a couple of people to eric's list, i think that john indicationic who has shown in ohio an ability to turn an economy around there, i think i will be stronger on this and 90 seconds works in his favor and christie, in the 7 p.m. debate might do that as well. >> jesse, can you beat that. >> yes. >> doubt it. >> i would could have out guns blazing at the president. i would say this praez has killed more jobs than terrorists. i would say he's created food stamp nation. and you're paying for it. out there the viewer. i would come out and say he spends money like the kardashians. he doubled debt. he raised taxes and everybody's wages went down. he's spending $1 trillion on

health care and premiums went up. he 0 opened the borders and the american dream is getting clobbered, while americans are were getting poorer. what was hillary doing? she was getting richer. she was lining her pockets with big speaking fees and arab money. not protect hillary clinton to protect your money. trump is the mogul, this is his strong soot. i think he needs to put distance between himself and ben carson. i think he'll give examples of specific projects he's done and how it's helped specific people. he has to stay focused on immigration. let's not forget what got him there. for carson, this is not his strong suit, obviously. he's got to show -- i don't think he can talk very conversationally about money. so he needs to also steady the ship. he's having a hard time there. but talk about how he kind of came up from nothing and used

education and faith and hard work. and we don't need handouts to be successful. and rubio, he's got a very high ceiling. i think rubio needs to show he's the new generation republican. he's a great counter-puncher, he'll do great with that. i think jeb has to have a moment. i don't know if he's equipped to have that moment. i don't know if jeb can fix it. we'll see. but i think it should be a fun debate. >> i think jesse beat me. >> he certainly went longer. >> the rundown of how they should go after obama and hillary was actually really good. >> i put a lot of thought into that, dana. i'm glad you liked it. >> jesse, you can stay at the table. >> i think jesse's chicken little routine is pretty cute. the sky is falling. jesse, flashback, it's not 2008, brother, it's 2015. the economy, unemployment rate, 5%, lowest since when?

'08. federal reserve -- hang on, jesse, we let you filibuster. federal reserve is so excited about economic progress they're poised to race interest rates in december. that's how good. let me just finish that under president obama, economy added 7 million private-sector job. dow has doubled, nasdaq tripled. exports up 40%. he cut the deficit by two-thirds. the president having rescued this economy, which was going in the tanks, the worst economic crisis the country faced since the great depression. what we need from the candidates tonight is a dose of honesty. they've got to say listen, there's still economic anxiety out here. >> your numbers -- >> get him, eric, i agree. >> i love your numbers. >> the employment rate is because what dana pointed out -- >> let me finish, let me finish, because dana said something that totally out of context, dana doesn't say oh, gee, we have a

rapidly aging economy, and half of the people -- >> not retirement. >> it is, a higher level, let me just say -- >> if you put same labor rate that president obama inherited on to the labor force right now, we would have 11%. >> but you would have a different population of americans. we have -- >> it's not retiring and dying. >> let me tell you something, the council -- the council of economic -- you know what, have you noticed mr. testosterone won't let me talk? >> have you noticed that i can't get to your rubio card here if you don't let me hit this script? tonight's debate hasn't begun yet, but marco rubio is finding himself in a showdown with donald trump. >> i'm not sure someone who is like donald trump, that's taken four companies into bankruptcy, should be lecturing anyone about finances. >> of course, some harsh words for him as well. tweeting marco rubio is a total lightweight who i wouldn't hire to run one of my smaller

companies. a highly over-rated politician. that's a gift to jeb bush. jeb can be elegant, confident and talk about his real-life experience and governor and results. because donald trump is doing the work for him. bolling? >> my assessment of tonight is the donald trump is the the one you don't want to attack, when you do, you get hurt. ben carson is in second place. ben is in, it feels like he's got a lot of issues right now. they're going to leave him alone and let him try to work his issues out. it will be a tough call. rubio is the one -- he's had the most movement on the way up. my guess, i think all guns will be pointed at marco rubio tonight. because if he gets stronger and stronger, that means what's not donald trump and ben carson will go to rubio. they need, the rest of the candidates need those voters. >> so dog pile? >> dana, you see it differently?

>> no one can predict what should happen. i think there's somebody we haven't mentioned and it's senator ted cruz. he has a very good grassroots operation out there in the country. he's very effective debater. if you look at who is in the second tier, it is rubio and cruz. i think cruz has to figure out a way to make a move and get some attention, tonight might be his night. >> heritage gave them the rating as the most conservative on the issues. >> if you're trump and you attack rubio on the credit card thing, i don't know if it works. it could back-fire. you could come on and say listen, my dad didn't give me $1 million, number one. number two, you know this is a mainstream media attack on me. you're going to glom on to a mainstream media attack? that's garbage. and you say, trump went bankrupt. that's garbage, too. but it gets under trump's skin and he gets on the defensive about it. is telegraphing his

attack on rubio. he's saying i'm going to go after him on the senate votes and i'm going to go after him because he's too pro life to win the election. i think americans hate the senate and if someone leaves the senate to go out in the real world, i don't think they have a problem with that. in a republican primary, you are you going to say a guy is too pro life? >> i'm saying that i don't think you're going to see that happen. i think that's a story that the "new york times" wrote. not that it's not true. i think that somebody probably did say that. i just believe that that is actually not going to happen. >> i think what's interesting to me from a political perspective is that you have the opportunity here, in terms of right to rise, the superpac for jeb bush, talking about spending money to go after marco rubio. and to say he's not ready to be president. there's no evidence, he hasn't run anything. and the suggestion about the credit he can't handle his own

finances. i think cruz is the guy, the question does cruz join in that kind of fight against marco rubio. and how does marco rubio respond. i liked what you were suggesting earlier. he can talk about himself as the guy who came up from nothing and people who need to relate to him. at some level, some point, marco rubio has got to come with real fire. he did last time. he had his moment when he came back on bush. he's tough. >> he's prepared. look at what happened. >> he was ready for jeb bush. >> look what happened. his super pac put out an ad that was fantastic. jeb bush's words, all jeb bush. >> and we'll get reaction for that one of the biggest moments from the last showdown was when rubio deflected attacks from jeb bush. this time around the florida senator has lunched a preemptive strike against the former florida governor with this new ad. >> marco has, i think is something that the republican party needs to have, which is a hopeful optimistic message.

based on our principles. >> i'm a huge marco fan. >> he's probably the most articulate conservative on the scene today and the fortitude to be a good president. >> so proud of his high-voltage energy. i'm so proud of his eloquence. >> i'm a huge marco fan. >> i'm marco rubio and i approved this message. >> now that is an effective ad. using the one guy who has been attacking you, his own words, as your, as your talking points. it's fantastic. marco rubio is a contender. he's got a good staff around him. i'm probably going to get a lot of heat. he's teaching jesh bush how to run a campaign. >> or jeb bush's staff. >> jeb bush has been very loyal, helped marco rubio get to where he is today. so when i see something like that, ah, i don't love it. >> effective tactic and actually it could be used almost all of them could use it.

i think one of the most effective ones would be to use all the comments that donald trump has said about hillary clinton and obama being so great. and do the same ad. >> it is effective to use somebody's words against them. >> i thought it was a great ad, i agree with eric. i don't like seeing jeb on the attack. i think it diminishes him. he doesn't look authentic when he does it. it doesn't seem real to me. he's supposed to be this big guy with the big name and all the money and the great track record and is playing small-ball politics arounded corner and nibbling at the younger front-runners because he crashed and burned in the polls. if he's going to attack anybody, he should attack trump. let's be a heavyweight. if you're a heavyweight and he says he's a heavyweight, attack trump. >> i think that would back-fire on him. i think if he's going to attack anybody, he can point out the flaws and the problems and dishonesty and duplicity of hillary clinton and go strong on your record. >> that's what i would. >> let me stand up for jeb bush.

i think this is nuts, you're saying don't go hard on the other candidates? jeb bush when he fails to go hard people say you know what he looks lackadaisical. what did trump say? you look like you're low energy. who now bush says i'm going to go after this guy rubio, and who is an ingrate, you're saying oh no, don't do that then you're not the big guy? no. he's got to get energy tonight. he's got to show his moment, eric, he's got to come on and let me tell you that ad -- that ad did nothing to deplay to people like did you hear what kimberly said, kimberly said that ad reminded her of -- i don't think it was, it entered into the mind, i thought these guys were friends and rubio is now taking shots at a guy who helped him get to that point? >> as a response. >> it's a response, i'm saying it brings into my mind all the questions about people who turn their backs on someone who helped them along the way. >> i'm sure jeb appreciates

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the gop candidates are gearing up for tonight's big showdown. the fourth presidential debate is hours away. how high are the stakes? we check in with campaign carl live at the milwaukee theater. >> it's a little chilly, but lots of fun. >> give me a little more. >> and? >> i think that everybody is kind of over-hyperventilating here. we've got to remember it's just the beginning of november. by this time in recent campaigns, absolutely nothing had happened, we've got a bigger field than ever. let's be realistic. this is just the fourth debate there will be 12 of them, maybe even more. so yes, there's a ton at stake. this is still touch football.

no one has put on their helmets and started banging yet. so for the front-runners, trump and carson, they've got unfinished business. while this is supposed to be a substantive economics and jobs and business-oriented debate, it's likely that trump will raise some of the questions that he's been raising about ben carson. it would almost impossible to imagine him not doing that. based on the things he's said in the last 24 hours and the marco rubio and jeb bush bat sl not going to go away. whether they bring it up in the debate tonight or not. out on the campaign trail, their teams are fighting it. >> carl, the mogul is going to be standing next to eli. do you want to explain to the people what that means? >> these are their secret service handles, mogul obviously would be donald trump. and eli is obviously a biblical reference for mr. carson. one translation is sort of chosen one or enlightened one.

>> lastly, evergreen, do you want to tell us whoever greene is? >> i can't tell you whoever gree, evergreen is. >> don't be so certain these handles will stay on. things change a great deal. the secret service cringes when they hear us stalking about this sort of stuff and frankly, secret service protectee status is supposed to be sort of prestigious for the candidates. one of the things that is sort of a sad reality to it is bomb scares and harassment. they get this attention because things sometimes get unpleasant. >> juan williams? >> take us behind the scenes there, carl. i understand that our political director, cheri gregs led the team through the facility and no complaints about green rooms or people being stuck in bathrooms, is that right? >> no. i've actually polled the press and some of the campaign

staffers and they all say everything is looking great. they're getting fed and there's plenty of rest room facilities, these are things that the american voters do not care about. this is the campaign and to some extent the media, acting a little bit spoiled for the privilege to run for the highest office and report on it let's be realistic. this is a debate in wisconsin, scott walker's home state. there's a lot of midwestern sensibility here and it's a lot different from the debates and questions you would get in iowa or new hampshire, where the race is much more hot because they're the first two states to vote. >> take us on the rundown of what the viewers can expect tonight, the amount of time allotted, the way this is going to go down. >> it's structured in such a way as to keep the entire flow centered around the economy. the candidates have been very vocal since the last debate about their desire to be heard. and not interrupted and when

they're given an opportunity to answer the question. they want to to fully answer and not get clipped by somebody trying to shout. the moderators will have to do refereeing to make sure teveryoe doesn't commit fouls. trump and carson have been if first place in the national polls. got to say this in virtually every single shot we do the national polls are not indicative of what's going on in the real race. and while trump and carson are winning in iowa and new hampshire, even chris christie has organization going in new hampshire and all of them have reason to see their campaigns going on beyond tomorrow. regardless of what happens in this debate. scott walker, one of the drop-outs, there's an awful lot of folks wandering around milwaukee, wondering why their candidate got out so soon. >> if you could give us a sense

of the audience. i know the audience reaction can help people perceive the performance differently. how do they stack out the deck or hand out tickets? or who gets to go? old, young, all walker fans? >> the republican national committee distributes tickets to the campaigns themselves and they each get an equal number. can bring in their supporters here from wisconsin. one of the things that's interesting is there's a lot of people commuting up from iowa and other states to see their candidates, we have folks from missouri earlier. coming by to say hello to us saying that they drove 10, 15 hours to come watch this. it's also a business community. this being the fox business network. there's a lot of folks involved in the wisconsin chamber of commerce types. midwest sensibilities vastly different than what we were talking about at the reagan library, debates. from boulder, colorado, now to wisconsin. it's also going to be a fairly

older crowd. the wisconsin electorate, these are folks watching very closely, a lot of folks haven't tuned in yet. it tends to be seniors who are watching closely now. they'll be asked to not keep, to keep the catcalls to a minimum. we always ask, it doesn't usually work. >> thank you, carl. we appreciate it. in a story you may not have seen -- the fbi just expanded its investigation into hillary clinton's emails, should the gop candidates refocus their attention on their ultimate opponent? that's next.

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another? is this a better strategy? >> hillary is running for a lot of reasons, one of them is because she wants to stay out of jail. >> our real problem lives in new york, it's hillary clinton, not the men and women on that stage. but hillary clinton and her vision for america, which i think is the wrong direction for our country. >> i'm running for president because there's no way we can let hillary clinton continue the policies of this country. >> we're not going to win by doing what hillary clinton and barack obama do every day, dividing the country. creating a grievance kind of environment. >> take her out, take her out fast and hard and don't wait to do it. one of you will emerge. they're going to unite together, in the meantime you share a common goal and mission objective. that's what i'm saying, move on target, hrc is the target, not colonel sanders, with his weird socialist communist friends. that's not the problem.

it's hoyillary clinton, and she in a stronger position than she was coming out of the benghazi hearings, unfortunately. >> do you agree with that. >> i do. if i were running for president as a republican. i would criminalize the name clinton. i would use hib investigation and hillary clinton in the same sentence day after day. i would say when i'm elected president, the first thing i'm going to do is pardon hillary. >> can you distinguish between the front-runners doing it and the guys who need to get to the front of the pack doing it. if i'm a front-runner, i'm going 0 go, it's working for me. >> i think it helps to go after hoyle. go after obama. link obama to hillary. talk about obama's failed policies, it's politics 101. i don't know why everybody is not executing. >> i think trump will do well tonight in the economic debate.

not to have to worry about any of other competitors on stage. but to show how he would compete in the general election against her. that's a good strategy. >> i would like that my point is if you're marco rubio or ted cruz, or one of the guys at the back of the pack. would you go, i got the front of the pack. >> that's why today you saw what trump was doing. i love his stuff on hillary clinton. that she's running to avoid jail. that's hilarious. but i like the stuff trump was doing today about the starbucks cup. i think he's playing to win in iowa with the evangelicals who care about the war on christmas. you know there's a reality to it. and i think that if you guys are saying the best candidate on the republican stage tonight is not talking about either the economy or how to defeat his opponents on that stage, well gee, they will be gone soon and somebody else will be up against hillary. everybody on the republican side, running, looks like

jesse's chicken little routine. know hillary clinton is so strong right now and united democrats behind hillary, disunited for -- >> she's under investigation by the fbi. >> and she pulls last, dead last in terms of trustworthiness with the american people. >> but she's the horse they rode in on. >> she has no competition by comparison. >> western illinois university, who is not missed a presidential call since 1975, guess who they pick to win, to win the presidency? >> who? >> bernie sanders. >> you know what? i didn't need that bolling. campus protest led to the ousting of the school president and chancellor. will this lead to similar kinds of investigations, demonstrations at other college campuses ahead? jeb bush: leadership means you've got to be all in. it's not about yappin'. it's not about talking. it's about doing. leadership means you got to

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protesters at the university of missouri succeeded yesterday in ousting the president of the school, as well as the chancellor over their alleged mishandling of racial incidents on campus. concerned students group 1950 drafted a list of demands for the university last month. and that list is going viral. here are some of those demands. to create and enforce comprehensive racial awareness and inclusion curriculum throughout all campus departments. increase the percentage of black faculty and staff on campus by 10% in the next two years. increase retention rates for marginalized students. provide funds and resources to hire additional mental health professionals and funds to hire more people of color on campus. the story gained national attention when graduate student jonathan butler went on a hunger strike in protest of the president's mishandling of the incidents, here's what he had to

say about the outcome of his efforts. >> a lot of people know how corrupt the system is and they thought i was going to die from day one. i'm from the moment i made my announcement. people thought i was a dead man walking. so for me, especially with faith in god i really didn't look at it from a death approach that i would die. even though i took precautions that i might. i really did come at this with an approach of victory knowing that the fact that the harder we fight, the greater of reward. i felt unsafe from the moment i stepped on this campus. >> the guy goes on a hunger strike, probably the biggest attention-seeking move of all time. he said i don't want any media attention, don't talk to me. what's going on with this guy. this guy was sneaking food during the hunger strike. >> it seems a little mel adramatic. >> i see this happening. i think this school, you reap

what you sow. they've been pumping this pc garbage into these students' heads for years and now they're devouring their own. this is like the left wing civil war we've all been waiting for. i say let them go at it. i say oust these administrators, as long as they're not going after fox, the military, the business community, let them eat their own. enrollment will go down, endowment will go down. no one will go to these crazy schools. the loons have taken over the asylum. >> you're right, pc demands over the years have created this mess. but look, i don't blame the president and the chancellor for stepping down. i don't blame them. i blame the athletic department and the football coach. nothing was going to happen without that football team saying we're not going to play. all you had to do, coach, was say we're going to put 12 or 1r5 different people who want to be on this football team, i'm sure there are.

missouri, a big-time college football program, who are trying to become nfl ball-players next year or the year after, are going to sit out one week and realize their life is going to go down the drain if you keep this mess up. they'll be back. >> that takes the courage of your convictions, instead of having your back broken by pc politics this is about football and politics, they'll be fined $1 million. if they don't play in the game. the players will turn around and say, you know what, the coach is a racist. >> that's true. >> can i ask you a question about the demands here. tell me what a marginalized student is? >> somebody who feels uncomfortable on campus. >> uncomfortable on campus. i love listening to folks talk about this in a way that you know, totally ignores the reality that these students really had a degree of discomfort in a learning environment. now i -- >> because of two incidents? juan? >> hang on, hang on.

>> i'm going to try to finish just a second. i think governor jay nixon, governor of missouri, said it was absolutely a good thing that the president stepped down. the head of the missouri legislature's house education committee. said it was necessary that he stepped down. >> it was the same governor that let them ride in ferguson. i don't think he's a guy you want to point to. >> can i just, let me finish. >> hurry up, juan. >> i think what you have is a situation far broader than this. there were people who were mad at the university over the fact that they had ties to planned parenthood way back and the president didn't deal with it. that brought attention. he did not deal with the dissatisfaction of the students, especially as you point out in the aftermath of ferguson. i just love watching these liberal institutions blow themselves up. >> you want to talk about the black -- >> two incidents. one swastika and an "n" word dropped. that's enough to get the

president fired? >> we're not there, we're not on the campus. what happened was the students at some point wanted his attention. they wanted the adult, the man in charge to talk with them, to deal with their dissatisfaction. apparently a car ran through the students, hit one of them. that's butler apparently. >> this story is growing, you know as the show continues. it wasn't somebody -- there's two instances. you can't just yell fire in a crowded theater. there has to be specific incidents and allegations that need to be addressed. you can't just go around having a vocal minority yelling about stuff and then by that say a small faction of the campus and then get people tossed out of office. >> juan, stop a second and let's look at a sound byte from melissa glick, who is all over the internet because of the way she handled some of the protests and media attention. let's look at it. >> can i talk to you? >> no, you need to get out. you need to get out. >> no, i don't. >> you need to get out.

>> i actually don't. >> who wants to help me get this reporter out of here? i need some muscle over here. >> professor is kicking out student reporters? >> not only that juan pointed out that missouri has one of the strongest media departments in the country. >> that was a communications professor. >> in the journalism department saying quote can i get some muscle over here to kick out a student journalist with a recorder, with a camera, wow, juan. >> why isn't she fired? >> there you go. >> first amendment free speech. >> i looked at her resumé, you know what she teaches? "fifty shades of gray" and social media relationship with lady gaga. going into tonight's debate. stick around.

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tonight. here's some of the final thoughts and our predictions for tonight's big event. eric bolling can't restrain himself. >> i asked a couple of questions, what would you ask the candidates, what do you want to know tonight? on twitter, a couple, pat kennedy, 428 asks, makes very good point. how would you reduce taxes and not increase the debt? very good question, love to hear the answers and another tweet, what role if any do you feel the federal government should have in the u.s. economy? can government improve it or just make it worse? #gopdebatetonight. i'll be live tweeting along with you. >> kimberly, any thoughts? >> i have a lot of thoughts, i'll give what i can to delight you. i think this has to be a big night for jeb bush. i think marco rubio has to show the last debate wasn't a fluke. has to have another break-out moment. to show that he has the gravitas

to be commander-in-chief. i think christie is going to dominate and own the first debate. he's got a strong operation in new hampshire. and you know, cruz is the one that's going to reap the benefit from all the insiders, from the marco rubio and jeb bush fighting and perhaps trump and carson. so cruz right now has been like left alone. so let's see what happens tonight. >> dana, trump? what would you advise him to do? >> exactly what i said, think he doesn't need to worry about his competitors, he should focus on the fact that he would say that i'm the best person to take on hillary clinton because she would be the third obama term and that's something that america cannot afford to. i think each candidate needs to have crisp definition and justification for their candidacy. i think at this point people are paying attention. also don't forget that rand paul is there. different viewpoint on a lot of things. i would be able to articulate my thoughts on not just for rand paul, but across the board, free trade and immigration. >> what about carly? >> that's a tough one.

let me ask jesse, jesse, it's going to be closing statements, jesse? i want you to be a candidate, on the stage, give us your closing statement tonight on your fox business channel debate. >> i would say i'm not under investigation by the fbi. if i was trump, what i would do is i would say, he needs another boss move. i would like to see him boot someone out, like ramos, that's where he hit his high note. carson. >> boot out one of our colleagues? >> needs another authoritative move to put distance between himself and other people. carson hit his high note when he said he didn't want to see a muslim in the white house. think he needs to keep being politically incorrect and tell the truth. i think rubio needs to stay dynamic, youthful and counterpunch and i think cruz could have a big opportunity to clobber someone over the head. i think jeb needs to fix it. >> ben carson. surprise of the debate. my prediction, one more thing up next.

it's time now for one more thing. juan? >> i tell you, working with these people is something. i don't know how i got here. >> what do you mean by these people? >> that was microaggression. >> anyway, i'm going to really upset them now. because they're all primed to go to sea world. but sea world has decided to cut shamu, the killer whale show,

the number of visitors has been falling since the 2013 documentary "blackfish" that documented bad treatment of the whales, causing the whales to behave violently. now they're going to use an orca experience and a natural setting in place of the killer whale show and therefore eric and dana will not be able to go to the holidays at sea world this year. >> i got to see the whale one time. >> high hands smell like fish. >> did they pick you because you're dana perino. >>. >> i was i'm nobody now. >> i'm going to talk about that. >> the government is supposed to be there to help society, right? what happens when it gets so big that it starts to hurt society. a new book out called the right to try, about how let's say you find out that your son has a terminal illness and you know of an experimental drug you want to try but the government won't let do you it the fda. there's legislation to try to change this jerry brown, the

governor of california vetoed legislation. here's darcy olsen talking about it this morning. >> i interviewed the head of the center for new drug development and i said, do you think theoretically it would be a good thing if hundreds of thousands of americans with these terrible terminal illnesses could access some of these cutting-edge medicines before they reach the fda's final green light? she sighed and she said, well it would be another burden on health care system. >> well an issue to track, called right to try legislation. >> one thing that i think carson should do tomorrow. i think he should go to the university of missouri and offer to meet with students, totally change the news cycle, sweep it. it doesn't matter what happens tonight, that would be the news of the day tomorrow. >> you just helped them out. i hope someone is listening from the carson camp. 240 years, is how long the marine corps has fought to keep america safe. on november 10th, 1775 that

congress call for two battalions of marines to defend the country during the american revolution now there's 200,000 active duty and reserve marines organized into three divisions. they live true to their motto, always faithful. and on november 10th each year, they commemorate and celebrate with the marine corps ball. bolling? >> so tonight i'm going to do this, make a deal, i'm snapchatting right now. i'll snapchat this. i want you to snapchat me tonight during the debate. i'll pick three or four, put them up for my one more thing tomorrow. >> keep it clean, america. >> exactly. jesse? >> if you like listening to me run my mouth on "the five," i'm going to be running my mouth even more 8:00 and 11:00, along with harris faulk anywhere, along with megan mccain. we'll be ponti pontificating an

bloviating. >> jesse, nice working with you. "special report" is next. this is a fox news alert. i'm brett bare in washington, you're looking live inside the milwaukee theater in wisconsin. where the first of two republican presidential debates begins in less than an hour on fbn. the countdown is on, we'll have more on the preview to the big events on the fox business network shortly. but we begin tonight, with another reprimand to president obama. over his use of executive action on immigration. this time, it's from a federal appeals court. the administration is already talking about getting the u.s. court involved. chief legal correspondent shannon bream looks at both sides tonight. >> i'm the president of the united states. i'm