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martha, certainly to be more throughout the day here on fox and into the evening hours. martha: and at home here, the reaction continues to the president's statements yesterday about how things will change now here as we wait and we watch. "happening now" starts right now. ♪ ♪ jon: russian and french bombers hitting new isis targets in syria as the manhunt for terrorists behind the paris attacks expands into at least three european nations. good morning to you, i'm jon out. jenna: hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. german police say they're questioning three people arrested there after a tip that one of them might be linked to the terror attacks in paris. in the meantime, police in belgium deploying up to 300 extra soldiers to provide security in major cities, and in france the government mobilizing some 115,000 security personnel
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and conducting more raids overnight in paris. greg talcott is live in paris where he had a very interesting sit-down with secretary of state john kerry. greg? >> reporter: hi, jenna. yeah, we'll have a few quotes from that in a moment, but first a quick rundown into the probe of the massacre here in paris. 128 terror raids overnight, that's after another strong night of police activity the night before. a car found, believed to also have been used by the attackers in their killing spree. search continues in belgium for the so-called eighth attacker, seven attackers are dead, and they are known, and more airstrikes as was noted especially against the isis stronghold of raqqa. that is where police believe the mastermind of last friday's attacks are holed up. now to secretary of state kerry. we pushed him hard on a couple of fronts, but the major question was after these attacks here in paris and elsewhere,
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doesn't there need to be some kind of a change, some kind of a shift in the anti-isis strategy of the united states? here's my back and forth with the secretary of state. now that they're committing these mass attacks outside of the border, they are changing their modus operandi. don't we have to change? doesn't the united states have to change -- >> what does that mean when you say we have to change? most americans do not want and don't think it's necessary to be sending massive numbers of american too manies to occupy -- troops to occupy syria. it didn't work so well in iraq. >> reporter: and don't you agree a well-constructed military operation led by the united states could finish these guys off in a couple of months? >> well, yeah. i have no doubt about the american capacity to have a huge impact on them. but you have to have something come in underneath it. >> reporter: while the secretary pushed back, as you just heard, on any kind of a major military commitment by the united states to get rid of
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isis, he did stray a bit from the line that we have been hearing from president obama over the past couple of weeks that there will be no change in the overall isis strategy. he admitted that there could be some qualitative changes, qualitative changes in the offing, just didn't give us the details. back to you. jenna: we look forward to hearing more from that interview, thank you very much. jon: so with the focus of the presidential campaign shifting to foreign policy after the attacks on paris, republicans say democrats are vulnerable to charges that they're just not tough enough on terror. hillary clinton could face the most criticism because she was the face of the administration's foreign policy as pres obama's first secretary of state. joining us now to discuss the politics of this, jackie kucinich, senior politics editor for the daily beast, michael warren is staff writer further weekly standard. jackie, to you first. hillary clinton is the architect or the implementer of a large part of barham that's -- barack
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obama's foreign policy, so how does she escape being tarred with the same brush, you know, from folks who say he is being so of the on isis -- too soft on isis? >> hillary clinton pushed for a more aggressive syrian policy when she was secretary of state. there was a group of them that did it, david petraeus was another. and defense secretary gates. so she was part of that group. she also has been in favor of a no-fly zone, and the president decided not to go with arming the rebels, as we remember. so she does have that. the trick for hillary clinton is not looking too far separated from the president because she still wants his supporters to get her through the primary. and we saw that a little bit in the debate over the weekend. she doesn't want to get too far ahead, she doesn't want to criticize the president, but the matter of fact is she was advocating for a more aggressive syrian policy when she was secretary of state. jon: but she also said in the debate this fight against isis is not america's fight. how do you square that? >> yeah.
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well, i think jackie's right. she has to consolidate her support within the democratic primary, and that means moving left, closer to president obama's position on this. she didn't just say this isn't america's fight once, she said it twice which i think tells you this is a sort of calculated position by her to sort of stake out a more left position than she had even when she was in the administration. and i think this sort of shows you how vulnerable democrats are on this issue. they already are, you know, it's one of these issues where democrats are just seen, fairly or not, as being weaker on national security and terrorism. it doesn't help to have someone on statement like bernie sanders -- on stage like bernie sanders saying global warming is the biggest cause for terrorism. but i think hillary clinton hurt herself by saying that and looking, you know, just a day after these attacks more like president obama and less like her own person. jon: so how does she separate
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herself from the president, jackie, as she tries to compete for the office that he now holds? >> i don't know that she does going into this democratic primary. maybe we'll see a shift as we go forward, perhaps in the general. we also don't know what the administration is going to do yet in terms of how they're going to respond to this. you know, you saw in that interview that secretary kerry indicated there might be some shifts. so we'll have to see how secretary clinton reacts to that as this goes forward. but you will see a very fine line walked with her so she doesn't alienate the president's supporters. jon: you just mentioned, michael, bernie sanders who comes at this debate from the left-most point of view. he suggested that some of the other arab nations really need to shoulder the burden of taking on isis. here's what he had to say saturday night. >> we have a common enemy here, an enemy that is doing barbaric things, and this is an enemy that has got to be defeated. and my view is that the people
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who have got to really get their boots on the ground is the countries in the area, the region, the muslim countries themselves, countries that are threatened by isis. people don't know this, but saudi arabia, for example, has the third largest military budget in the world. third largest in the world. well, they should start using some of that military budget to help us deal with isis, and so should turkey, and so should some of the very wealthy countries in the region. jon: but it wasn't, michael, saudi arabia or turkey that was attacked on friday. [laughter] >> that's right. i mean, you can hear exactly what hillary clinton is saying is really a response or sort of a moving toward what bernie sanders just said. he's basically advocating for this is not america's fight. so, again, this is what you're seeing from the democrats which is a move to the left on this issue, and i think at a time when americans were sort of thrown back on their heels by what they saw in paris. you know, this is a very close ally of ours attacked by this group that has been on the rise
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the past couple of years, and i think people feel threatened, and that's why this is a real problem for hillary clinton. the real question is do the republicans have a good response to this, or are they going to continue to sort of argue over the little things about whether or not democrats will call isis islamic or not. i think what you're seeing here is not encouraging on either side of the aisle with dealing with what is obviously a very threatening presence in the middle east. jon: mrs. clinton in that debate seemed to talk in very broad strokes, and whether broad strokes are going to be satisfactory to americans who have just seen, you know, hundreds of residents of paris slaughtered in the streets, that is an open question. here is what she had to say in that debate. >> so, secretary clinton, i'd like to start with you. hours before the attacks, president obama said i don't think isis is gaining strength. 72% of americans think the fight against isis is going badly. won't the legacy of this
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administration, which is -- which you were a part of, won't that legacy be that it underestimated the threat from isis? >> well, john, i think that we have to look at isis as the leading threat of an international terror network. it cannot be contained, it must be defeated. jon: it cannot be contained, jackie, it must be defeated. well, yeah, we know that, but let's get some specifics. >> i don't know that anyone has specifics yet. i mean, we haven't heard any from the republican candidates either that are actually something that could be done. but, you know, it remains to be seen, because it's a world -- whether or not the world is scarier, it certainly feels scarier to a lot of people right now, and they're going to gravitate particularly right now to the candidate that sounds presidential and sounds like they can do something to keep them safe. jon: so, michael, you said that on the republican side there have been sort of, you know, they've been talking about small things like describing or using
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the words islamic terrorism. you don't see strong prescriptions coming from either the democratic or the republican candidates? >> well, i think there are some coming from maybe the lower-polling candidates within the field. jeb bush has been talking strongly about this, a little bit from marco rubio and some of the others, but the leading candidates, you know, donald trump and ben carson, really aren't inspiring much confidence. ben carson's answer in that fox business debate about syria was rambling and incoherent and didn't make a lot of sense. and donald trump is mainly taking to twitter to say, you know, i told you so. we should have bombed their oilfields, and that's what frantz is doing. jackie's right, there's really no actually playing of what any of these candidates would do going forward other than donald trump's plan to bomb the stuff out of them. [laughter] i think there needs to be more detail to this and, of course, this is all happening very fast and developing. but the criticisms have been out there for president obama's
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approach to defeating isis, and i haven't really seen any details of what these republicans or even hillary clinton would do differently. jon: it seems like it's going to be a potent campaign issue on both sides as we head toward 2016. michael warren, jackie kucinich, thank you. >> thank you. jenna: and here's another big part of the story, the paris attacks sparking widespread calls to ban or limit the admission of syrian refugees into the united states. more than half the nation's governors say they're going to take action to prevent syrian refugees from settling in their states out of fear for the safety of their citizens. david lee miller is live from our new york city headquarters with more. >> reporter: we're not only talking about governors, high profile republicans in congress and on the campaign trail who say the president's plan is a bad idea. moments ago house speaker paul ryan called for the drafting of legislation to stop the resettlement of syrian refugees here in the u.s. >> this is a moment where it's better to be safe than to be
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sorry. so we think the prudent, the responsible thing is to take a pause in this particular aspect of this refugee program in order to verify that terrorists are not trying to infiltrate the refugee population. >> reporter: other republicans are taking a similar stance. ben carson wants lawmakers to halt funding for resettlement, and senators marco rubio and ted cruz also want to keep the syrians out. all this as governors from 29 states are speaking out against the president's plan, 18 of them go further and say they will not allow the refugees to live in their states. some of the governors do concede, however, that states do not have the legal authority to reject refugees. the governors, all but one of whom are republicans whose states can be seen on this map, cite the issue of security following the reports one of the paris attackers might have entered france posing as a migrant. rick snyder of michigan, whose state has the largest number of arab-americans, the nation's only latino governor, susana
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martinez, rejected the program until there is a system to vet potential immigrants. the governor of new hampshire is also running for senate. and on the other side of the issue, democrats hillary clinton and bernie sanders welcome the syrian refugees. vermont governor peter shut is another governor supporting the immigrants. >> i think when you have folks who are drown canning, who are dying -- drowning, who are dying in the pursuit of freedom, that vermont does its part. >> reporter: in the last four years, about 1900 syrian refugees have settled in the united states. jenna: david lee, thank you. jon: the body of a young teacher found with her throat cut, now a teenager is on trial for her murder and today colleen richards' mother will take the stand and come face to face with
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her daughter's accused killer. plus, growing concerns about president obama's plans to admit thousands of syrian refugees after the terror attack in paris. coming up, republican presidential candidate governor mike huckabee joins us with a warning for the president. of oa property is that you can create wealth through capital appreciation, and this has been denied to many south africans for generations. this is an opportunity to right that wrong. the idea was to bring capital into the affordable housing space in south africa, with a fund that offers families of modest income safe and good accommodation. citi got involved very early on and showed an enormous commitment. and that gave other investors confidence. citi's really unique, because they bring deep understanding of what's happening in africa. i really believe we only live once, and so you need to take an idea that you have and go for it.
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jon: governor mike huckabee is the latest presidential candidate to come out swinging against president obama's plan to allow thousands of syrian refugees into the united states. the former arkansas governor urging the president to reconsider his position. he's also calling on house speaker paul ryan to either block this move altogether or step down? joining us now, republican presidential candidate governor mike huckabee. governor, thanks for being with us. >> thanks, jon. jon: you said yesterday that president obama's wimpish and amateurish response to islamic jihadists reveals we have a cub scout for commander in chief.
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tough words for a presidential candidate. >> well, definitely tough words. and i got be an extraordinary level of blowback from it, a lot of reaction, people very negative about it because they thought it insulted the cub scouts. jon, the reason i said that is because here we have a left-wing, socialist president of france closing his borders and saying we're going to go to war against these animals, and we've got a president who is all upset at america because we think maybe that putting america's interests first is the right thing to do, and we ought to be joining the french and the russians in aggressively going after them. yesterday president obama is saying, you know, america doesn't want to get caught up in this winning stuff. well, i want to get caught up in winning. i want to win over this malignant cancer that is a threat to western civilization. jon: the president said his strategy is going to take time. how do you assess the results? >> he doesn't have a strategy,
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that's problem. he never has. nine hours before the slaughter in paris, he was talking about how he had contained isis. clearly, he hadn't contained anything. last week when this first happened, you know, i was, i think, the first one to come out and say we need a moratorium on the idea of syrian refugees. i was delighted to see, by the way, speaker ryan step up this morning and say he thinks we ought to put a pause on it. so good for him, and i'm delighted to see that. yesterday i was saying somebody's got to lead, and if it's not the president -- clearly, he's not -- then let the republicans take leadership, and that would fall upon speaker ryan who has the pursestrings with the house, and it a appears -- it appears he's going to, and i'm happy to see that. jon: that is, perhaps, an answer to your demand that he stop the funding for assimilation of more syrian refugees or step down. that was also, it raised a lot of eyebrows on, really, both sides of the aisle. >> well, it did. look, i don't pretend that the
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reason that paul ryan had his press conference today was solely because of what i said. i think -- i would like to believe it's because he recognized that somebody has to step into the vacuum of leadership, because the president's unwilling to or unable to. and maybe he was listening to the constituents, because overwhelmingly americans realize that the number one goal of our government is not to protect the image of islam, it's to protect american citizens. and so it appears to me that president obama has been so focused on not wanting to offend anybody who's a muslim. look, i don't want to offend be muslims who aren't responsible for this, but we have a situation where jihadists who are strapping bombs to their bellies and blowing innocent people up, they just happen to all be muslims. so let's not pretend this is not about the religion of these fanatics. it doesn't mean all muslims are jihadists, but all the jihadists certainly seem to be muslim. jon: you might have heard the segment just now with michael
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warren from the weekly standard saying there aren't a lot of prescriptions on the republican side either for how you win the war against isis. what is mike huckabee's? >> well, first of all, let's join with the europeans who are ready to call this a war, let's join with the russians who are sending airstrikes. they've just had an airliner shot down. right now there's a great opportunity to pull together, and let's engage the saudis, the kuwaitis, and let's say, guys, it's put up or shut up time. it's not just isis. let's go after these jihadis who are interested in destroying western civilization. this is a battle not just between the americans and isis, this is a battle between western civilization and complete barbarism and savagery. so we either look at this not an contain and live with, this is a malignant cancer that you have to eradicate and then radiate
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the area around it so it doesn't come back. that's what we have to do, and that involves military. it involves not only airstrikes, it involves boots on the ground and an all-out effort to crush it in its tracks and eliminate, jon, social media ability. take twitter, take facebook away, don't allow these organizations to have any access to it. they shouldn't have access to social media. jon: governor mike huckabee, republican presidential candidate, thank you. and we'll be right back. of my parents and my grandparents. i was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation. you start to see documents and you see signatures of people that you've never met. i mean, you don't know these people, but you feel like you do. you get connected to them. i wish that i could get into a time machine and go back 100 years, 200 years and just meet these people. being on ancestry just made me feel like i belonged somewhere. discover your story. start searching for free now at ancestry.com. boy: once upon a time,
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so hard to fight is they have no regard for human life, even their own. >> understand that one of the challenges we have in this situation is that if you have a handful of people who don't mind dying, they can kill a lot of people. that's one of the challenges of terrorism. it's not their sophistication or the particular weaponry that they possess, but it is the ideology that they carry with hem and their willingness to die. jenna: michael singh is a former director at the national security council and managing director of the washington institute. michael, that may be the challenge of terrorism. the question is, is it insurmountable? >> well, you know, i think, jenna, you have to look at this problem as, essentially, two separate problems. one is the question of domestic terrorism, and remember that quite a few of these paris attackers do seem to have been people with e.u. passports,
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french and belgian nationals, for example. and then there's the question of the syria and iraq conflicts. and while, look, i don't think we can be goaded into action by terrorists, i don't think we should be deterred from acting by terrorists, i do think this should be a moment where we look to determine if we're really doing what we need to do. jenna: what do you think of the reasoning from the president that an individual that's willing to give up his own life, a suicide bomber, for example, is someone that cannot have an equivalent in the west? because we certainly don't have people that are doing the very same thing to communities in the middle east, for example. what do you think of that reasoning that this, this persona of this terrorist who's willing to give up his own life for his jihad is somehow something we can't overcome? >> i don't think it's right that we can't overcome it. i mean, i think you'll never have 100% security, total assurance that you won't have,
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say, lone wolf attacks. but i do think there is more we can probably do to prevent these types of attacks from happening. obviously, we have unfortunately now a long history with these types of attempted attacks. we've foiled quite a few of them. and i think that what's going to need to happen now in the coming days is the security experts on both sides of the atlantic are going to need to look at this attack and say how did we miss this, what went wrong here, and what new sort of methods and tools do we need to make sure this doesn't happen again? jenna: interestingly enough in "the washington post", the description in this article about whether or not isis has an apocalyptic goal is suggesting that this is exactly what isis wants. they want to goad western powers, including russia, into a huge battle in syria, a ground battle specifically. drawing upon your expertise in the middle east, do you think that's true? and why would isis want that? >> well, i think we can only speculate, jenna, it's not clear. some people have said that because isis has been
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experiencing some territorial setbackses and not advancing in the way they would like, they conduct these attacks to perpetuate a narrative of victory, that they're taking the battle, in a sense, to the west. other people would say, no, in fact, what they want is to keep us out of the middle east and basically deter us from getting more involved in these conflicts. and, frankly, you hear different reactions from different commentators that suit sort of both of those needs. i don't think we can know exactly what isis is trying to accomplish here beyond just killing, and i think that is one of their goals, is simply killing. but i think we have to be sober in the way we respond. jenna: the president does have an idea about how not to approach isis. here's what he had to say. >> we play into the isil narrative when we act as if they're a state, and we use routine military tactics that are designed to fight a state that is attacking another state.
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that's not what's going on here. jenna: do you agree, michael, that we shouldn't treat them as a state, that somehow that would be counterproductive? >> i guess the president is saying we shouldn't inadvertently enhance isis' appeal, but i'm not sure that gets at the key point. the key point is they do hold a lot of territory in the middle east, and we've had a hard time rolling them back from that territory. they do have greet appeal, it would seem, for disaffected folks in the west, these sort of lone wolf types, and so far we haven't really seemed to have found the solution for that. and so i get what the president is saying, but it does seem like what we're doing now isn't working, contrary to what he said yesterday. jenna: it'll be interesting to see what new ideas emerge, if any. michael, thank you very much. >> thank, jenna. jon: well, a monster storm is on the move now with some places hit with more than a foot of snow and gusts as high as 50 miles an hour. where that storm is now and where it's headed. also, the media and the paris terror attacks.
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plus, charlie sheen makes a stunning announcement about his health. we are live with details. jenna: monster storm on the move pounding some places in colorado with more than a foot of snow. the early winter blast forcing hundreds of flight cancellations and certainly raising questions about what's to come. alicia acuna's live outside the denver bureau. hi, alicia. >> reporter: hi, jenna. yes, and quite a few problems on the road. the colorado state patrol shut down interstate 25 south of here because 900-15 -- 100-150 cars were stranded down in that area, and overnight the region east and south of denver got more than a foot of snow in some parts brought in by some seriously strong winds, at times up to 60 miles per hour. some places on the eastern plains of the state just recently having that blizzard warning lifted by the national weather service. some air travelers have had a rough go, more than 200 flights
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canceled last night and about 50 today. the issue not so much the snow, but the gusty winds. >> the direction has a direct impact on our flight objections, because if they're coming from the east or the west, we can only use our east/west runways. >> if i'm on location, maybe i'm a little bit excited to see the snow, but since i'm on a business trip, i'm a little bit frustrated, is and i'm homesick. >> reporter: just south of new mexico, the northeastern part of the state, the national weather service there has areas under a blizzard warning with half a foot of snow or more, schools are closed or on a delay. and 41 tornadoes reported overnight in kansas, oklahoma and texas. this one you're seeing here in greenfield, kansas. no injuries reported, but damage in some areas and, jenna, as things normalize here, the system is headed east, and i have to do this for jon scott, because look how gorgeous this is.
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the ski areas of vail and breckenridge, they got up to 8 inches, so good start to this ski season. jenna: we'll take a silver lining, especially on a day like today. thank you. jon: happy to hear it. well, the paris attacks seem to have sparked a change in media coverage concerning president obama's isis strategy. it was very evident during the president's news conference yesterday. take a listen. >> this is an organization that you once described as a jv team that evolved into a force that has now occupied territory in iraq and syria and is now able to use that safe haven to launch attacks in other parts of the world. how is, how is that not underestimating their capabilities, and how is that contained, quite frankly? and i think a lot of americans have this frustration that they see that the united states has the greatest military in the world, it has the backing of nearly every other country in the world when it comes to taking on isis. i guess the question is, and if you'll forgive the language, is why can't we take out these
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bastards? >> well, jim, i just, i just spent the last three questions answering that very question. so i don't know what more you want me to add. jon: joining us now with their take, tammy bruce, radio talk show host and a fox news contributor, alan colmes is host of the alan colmes show nationally, syndicated by fox news radio. it may have been lost upon the president that maybe he got asked the same question because he didn't provide a satisfactory answer. >> well, i thought he did, quite frankly. in fact, i'm glad that he was rational, that he was nonplussed, and he was -- or should i say plussed -- and he was even-tempered about it. he was talking about how we'd be playing a game of whack-a-mole. you go into these countries, you bomb them, you take them out. there's no government to take over, there's no peace partner, then you wind up in yemen or some other country which has been happening in the middle east for how many years since 9/11? he's being dragged over the
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coals by media since then. i thought the media was supposed to love him, but i thought he acted extremely appropriately. his tone was right and, certainly, his policies are correct. jon: that may be be one of the issues. howard kurtz wrote a column and said the media has loved barack obama pretty much until now. they've been paying a great deal more attention to republican politics of late, but now that they're seeing this strategy or lack thereof with regard to isis, they're giving the president, you know, a pretty hard time about it. >> well, this seems to eclipse marco rubio's credit card, shall we say. look, this transcends politics, partisanship, and it's good news that reporters -- it's a shame, it is horrific that it took this kind of slaughter to wake them out of their slumber. but the fact is even christiane amanpour raked him over the coals. you had jim acosta from cnn, our own bill hemmer, bret baier had a conversation about the nature of this.
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i think part of reporting and what americans and i think the world wants to see is an honesty from the individual addressingd. it's been so long since we've seen that. and alan notes that he was them temperate. most people saw that at cold-blooded. he was this turkey, it was 72 hours after this massacre, and he started talking about global warming. he started that speech speaking about different issues, and he mentioned global warming first. and it was shocking to people, that this seemed to be like at the end, and then he went into fights here at home. but i think it was good. i think the conversations were good and the criticism was appropriate. jon: tone deaf, alan? >> no, not at all. he is exactly right and, again, do we want to start how many more middle east wars? how many -- do you want to put 40, 50,000 troops on the ground, bankrupt the country again?
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in terms of -- and getting very little media coverage was the fact that in the last two days prior to the paris attacks two top al-qaeda leaders, i should say isis leaders were killed, jihadi john and there was another isis leader killed in syria. >> see, that's the point -- >> in libya, by the way. >> it's pinpricks. we were announcing jihadi john, we used two hellfire missiles to kill one guy. we were in raqqa, and we turned around and we left. also not covered was the beirut bombing the day before which killed 40 people, wounded scores of others. and this was -- the media didn't have interest in that, interestingly enough. it took paris. now look, this is -- we can argue about whether or not there should be military and boots on the ground, but i think people are realizing that it shouldn't be anymore civilians who are on the front line being slaughtered. our military's --
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>> but the media is not covering the fact that advances have been made in northern iraq and syria. >> tell that to the dead people in paris. tell that to dead parisians and dead -- >> i understand that. but that does not relate to the fact that great advances have also been made and there has been containment in those parts of world. >> it hasn't worked. jon: the president has said his strategy is working. can you articulate that strategy? >> yes. for example, going after the particular isis leaders that i just mentioned, driving them out of northern iraq, going after them in syria, putting some boots on the ground which i wish we didn't have to do. but, yes, that -- as opposed to what, starting an all after out war? where? it's not a nation-state. this is a series of cells that are all over parts of the world. where do you want to attack? jon: all right. it's going to be a topic in the media for quite some time, i'm sure. alan colmes, tammy bruce, thank you. jenna: of course, we know of one fugitive when it comes to the paris terrorist attacks, but french officials are saying
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they're seeking a second fugitive directly involved in the paris attacks. this as we're seeing more headlines cross about possibly an expansion of what this investigation looks like. perhaps more of a conspiracy of dozens of individuals. we'll keep you posted as we hear more, but the associated press saying today a second fugitive is now being sought. in the meantime, the paris attacks are reminiscent of the mumbai massacre back in 2008. you'll remember this. the fbi was very concerned about that kind of attack here just recently. you'll hear it on "happening now" next. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever?
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theand the kids always eat sky their vegetables.e. because the salad there is always served with the original hidden valley ranch. jenna: you just heard from the associated press a new suspect, new arrests and raids link today the paris terrorist attacks reminiscent of the mumbai massacres in 2008 where active shooters struck multiple soft targets in one city simultaneously. it was something our fbi was explicitly very concerned about during the u.n. general assembly
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in new york and the pope's recent visit. these words were chilling then during an interview in november and especially now. >> everybody's really concerned with the mumbai-style attack where it's not one guy, it's multiple guys, maybe multiple locations. you know, we aren't, we aren't nypd, we're not first responders so, you know, they're definitely going to handle something right when it happens, but we could definitely be called upon to assist them at, like, a multiple-location event, you know? it could be multiple groups of gunmen at a couple different hotels throughout the city. jenna: the former assistant director of the fbi in new york joins us now. bill, i've been reflecting on that interview ever since the news broke about this terrorist attack, because this is exactly what the fbi described to me only a few weeks ago. obviously, the fbi is aware potentially of this scenario. what do you think, what dose through your head when you hear the fbi describe exactly what happened in paste as a hypothetical -- in paris as a
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hypothetical here? >> it's absolutely what's going to happen in this country or another western european country, probably u.k., nether lans, italy or france again. the bottom line is that i'm sure they have already selected targets within the united states and that they're refining any kind of a process to go after those targets, multiple targets, soft targets that they can go after and have a huge impact as they did in paris. that's what everybody is afraid of, but i'm also afraid that that's going to happen. we have to be vigilant and be right 100% of the time. they only have to be right once. right now we have over 100, the fbi has over a hundred cases within the united states, at least one in every single state, looking at terrorism, and we'll be out there checking on all of those cases, making sure that we have that high game antenna up, listening to everything we possibly can. it's not a matter of if this is going to occur, it's when, and
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we all have to be ready -- jenna: it is scary to think about, how can we be ready, how can we prevent it? >> preventing it is paying particular attention to all the techniques that we have, the intel, the human intelligence is the most important thing, and sometimes that's the one we lack the most. but we have technical ability to listen to different conversations and to key off of different words. we have the ability to do those kinds of things. but we also have to be vigilant, and we have millions and millions of sets of eyes called citizens of the united states. and new york has set the precedent. if you see something, you say something. that has to be done, and those are the kinds of things that can help prevent devastating attacks such as occur inside spain -- in france. jenna: we've heard from the new york city police commissioner as well as from washington, d.c. that extra preparation is ongoing at this time just to make sure that some of these softer targets are protected,
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that there are at least more people on the streets with counterterrorism expertise to try to prevent these attacks. where else? besides new york and washington, d.c., these are the obvious areas we're going to be looking at. where else would you be watching, bill? how do we even know when investigations are ongoing in 50 states where the next target will be? >> there is no way of accurately predicting that, jenna, and that's the shame of this whole thing and the most difficult task for all law enforcement whether it be federal, local. that is an extremely difficult task. you can't pick out the exact city where this is going to happen. would they like to have a major city, an impact upon some symbolic state, some symbolic building or something like that? yes, they would. but they're not against picking on, going to some other city, go to chicago, go to los angeles. los angeles has been a target before. go to san francisco. all of these, all of these cities, major cities, in dallas,
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miami, any place where they could possibly do it. it's a very, very difficult thing to predict. jenna: it's certainly scary to think about. bill, it's great to have your expertise though. thank you very much, we appreciate it. >> thanks, jenna. it's my pleasure. jon: charlie sheen makes a big announcement on today show this morning. that in a moment. sure, tv has evolved over the years.
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to stop them? harris: and actor charlie sheen announces he is hiv positive, but what about reports he failed tell his partners about that? sandra: all of that plus our #oneluckyguy. "outnumbered" top of the hour. jon: we'll be watching. jenna: actor charlie sheen saying he's hiv positive and revealing the illness in an interview with nbc's today show. adam houseley has the details. >> reporter: he says he was basically forced to give up millions to cope it quiet for -- to keep it quiet. take a listen. >> i thought i had a brain tumor, i thought it was over. after a battery of tests and spinal taps, all that crap, they walked in the room and said, boom, here's what's going on. it's a hard three letters to absorb, you know? it's a turning point in one's life. >> reporter: sheen says he announced this today to put a
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stop to a bram of attacks that he says harm him, his family and the health of others. he also says a lot of people have demanded money for him to stay silent, and he's paid up costing him about $10 million, but he also says he's told everyone he had sex with about being hiv positive. >> have you, since the time of your die know sis, told every one of your sexual partners before you had a sexual encounter that you were hiv positive? >> yes, i have. >> no exception? >> no exception. >> reporter: sheen also says that he plans on moving forward, he understands he's going to get a lot of criticism for this. also his former girlfriend, bree olson, came out this morning on the howard stern show and says she was in the dark, and she's extremely upset. we're also hearing maybe four women have retained an attorney here in los angeles. jenna: adam, thank you. we'll be right back with more "happening now."
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>> we'll be back here in one hour. see you then. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. harris: we begin with a fox news alert. big developments in the terror attacks in paris which killed at least 129 people. french officials reportedly looking for a second fugitive thought to be directly involved in the paris attacks. this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith, andrea tantaros, co-host of "after the bell" on fox business, melissa francis and today's #oneluckyguy, fox senior national correspondent john roberts and he is outnumbered. glad you're here to help us dive into the breaking news. >> it is terrible what is happening in france and what could potentially happen elsewhere around the world. i think the sense of urgency to get to the root of this is growing. hopefully nations around the world will finally see there is a threat that needs to be addressed and addresses quickly. harris: we have sense ever urgency to get to the news. let's .
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