>> i will see you back here, as will you. >> god willing. >> an hour, how about that? >> "outnumbered" starts right now. sandra: fox news alert. major new developments in attacks on paris. gunfire and explosions rocking a neighborhood right outside of the french capital in the predawn hours. police targeting the mastermind of friday's deadly attacks a woman wearing a suicide vest blowing herself up. another suspect killed by police. seven arrests. did police stop a second attack just in time? this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner, andrea tantaros, nationally syndicated radio show host of america now and fox news contributor, meghan mccain. today's #oneluckyguy, you know him from the "the o'reilly factor." the host of the "watters world, a brand new show on fox, jesse watters is here.

welcome. >> thank you for having me. sandra: thank you for being here. the fast-breaking turn of events. gunfire could be heard for three hours straight as police stormed two apartments. [gunfire] the early morning raid in st. denis, north of paris, less than a mile from the soccer stadium attacked the other side. authorities thought they might have cornered the mastermind. his fate remains unclear. we have reports on this. french police say people inside were planning another attack. jesse, what do you make of the latest news here? >> looks like france has declared war on radical islam and our president should take note. france is rooting out and cracking down domestically on savages live within france. not to rally a coalition, not to contain isis but to defeat isis.

they're not afraid to say radical islam. they're doing whatever they need to do to eradicate this menace. france is a civilized nation. they're not insecure. they will not worry about offending muslims or civil liberties and going in to get the job done. when americans see pools of blood in paris and when americans hear muslims taunting paris victims at soccer games during moments silence, and when they see this stuff, women blowing themselves up withs thed 9/11. they want to make sure we fight the guys there so we don't find fight them here. sandra: what do you think of that,. >> i'm not going to change any plans. everything is working a week before. he said it is contained. i never thought i would live in a world where france was more aggressive on terrorism than the united states of america but apparently that's the world we're living in. this president isn't keeping america safe.

i don't understand how we're being vilified as republicans and whole thing is being politicized. now if you're scared of terrorism and you don't think, i know we get to the topic, if we should be letting in syrian refugees because you actually think it could be dangerous and you're worried about the security of the united states? we're in place culturally we're more worried about being politically correct than keeping america safe. what is that? sandra: andrea, the big question remains, do these events change our course as far as our attack and our fight against isis? andrea: well they should. jesse you mentioned french are finally doing away with political correctness and taking action. that wasn't always the case. france needs to be a lesson for the united states of america because look how they got into that situation. their expedited on timeline but we're following in their footsteps. in the 1960s, france invited the colonies, the muslim colonies of algeria, tunisia, morocco, to emigrate to their country. it is not older immigrants that are the problem, sandra. it is their kids.

it is their offspring. they don't have jobs. they're ripe for radicalization. in the bus last night those were frenchmen with french passports. they're considered french citizens. the problem is from within. they have not addressed it because they let their lax immigration and political correctness cripple them. sandra we're doing the exact same thing here. so let it be a lesson. when the president says we don't have to worry about women and orphans, those are the exact people we need to worry about because it was a woman wearing a suicide vest last night. and it is not the orphans. it is the kids. and remember, marie harf said they just need jobs. because they don't have jobs. if you bring them here and they don't have jobs, under that rationale, they will be radicalized and we will face the same fate. sandra: harris, the world is clearly on edge. harris: yeah, when you look at how they tracked these guys down it is really interesting. and to jesse's point, the french prime minister has just said, he is telling his nation, the

national assembly, radical islam is france's enemy and must be named as such. i'm wondering where our president will fall on that? that is official word for them. >> talking about climate change. he will continue talking about climate change. harris: belgian and french security agencies picked up phone conversations indicating relative inside of that french suburb apartment building. they went there with the kind of firepower you see normally on battlefield. there was a floor collapsed because they had so many munitions going after these people. they knew it would be deadly dangerous. they got people out of harm's way. they evacuated that building. this is wake-up call to the enemy. because as you pointed out, france was one of those places where they let some people that they had thousands of active investigations and just people that they needed to keep an eye on, up to 5000 of them simultaneously. and this is their reaction. so it's a wake-up call to the enemy as well because you got to bet that our guys, best of our guys are thinking like that too. i don't know about the president

and john kerry. we'll get to that in a minute and what they have been saying but behind the scenes, when you have got the terrorism sanctuaries meeting going on capitol hill right now, general jack keane who sat on this very couch leading that right now. you have a lot going on today in preparation but this is impressive how they went after these nice. sandra: meanwhile the manhunt is still on for the mastermind behind all of this. >> listen, we did or did not have intel saying this would happen. i don't know what scares me more, knowing we had intel but didn't connect the dots or didn't see it coming at all. it goes to the fact that obama's drone policy is great. we zap these guys, take them off the battlefield. we're not capturing people. we're not interrogating. we're not learning about actionable intelligence. i think that what happens when you don't have human intelligence on the ground. you let these things go by and boom, there goes the stadium. harris: when you telegraph to the enemy you think there are people in their own population we don't fear, what do they do?

turn around and use those people, like women. you told them they don't fear that they have no compunction about doing that. >> to say terrorism doesn't have a face, that is why you're patting down little old ladies at airports. it is infuriating. harris: whole thing with the intel. red flags were in fact raised six months ago warning out that isis could carry out a complex paris-style attack. that even named the alleged paris mastermind. pretty specific. a joint intelligence assessment from the department of homeland security, fbi and national counterterrorism center warned in may that the islamic state appeared to develop the capability to launch a more complex attack against western targets. of course it didn't specify which target but it had that name. the report singled out that alleged ringleader of the paris attacks and how he directed a failed terror plot in belgium via cell phone from a safe house in greece. all of this after president obama said on sunday, quote, no

specific intel could have led the united states to warn france ahead of time. end quote. jesse, i come to you. so maybe not exactly the place but there was so much juicy specificity, they had at least had to chat about, maybe they did. >> that's true. i remember president bush was killed for bin laden determined to attack the united states. and people were talking about impeachment and he really dropped the ball. now you have the name of this guy. you have the target. this president does not have a great track record when it comes to intelligence. he underestimated isis. he actually outed a cia station chief over in afghanistan. so, another intelligence failure. and this time was deadly. harris: so i mentioned the secretary of state john kerry. i don't know if you've seen this please watch your screen carefully. he was talking earlier about the "charlie hebdo" hit in paris. you remember the newspaper publish ad satirical cartoon. they have a track record doing that as many newspapers across europe do, that the muslim world

did not like. here is what kerry said. we'll talk about it. watch. >> there is something different about what happened from "charlie hebdo." and i think everybody would feel that. there was a sort of a particularized focus and perhaps even a legitimacy in terms of, not legitimacy but a rationale that you could attach yourself to somehow and say, okay, they're really angry because of this or that. harris: we'll have to give him a thesaurus. he went from legitimacy to rationale. that didn't help him out much. you're shaking your head really hard. >> when i first saw this i almost threw coffee at my television set. how dare you say that about these people? how day you say any terrorist anywhere had legitimacy. these are barbarians. they are monsters. they want to kill our way of life and european way of life, all western civilization. what is wrong with you? going in foreign country after

terrorist attack, it is embarrassing. i don't know what is happening to our country right now. harris: you know what reminded me of? the cartoon the administration floated out after the benghazi attacks against the u.s. embassy in libya. that only had to be true that sparked what happened to rest of our men. now the cartoon, it was victim's fault, the newspaper's fault, the satirical newspaper's fault. andrea: we've heard this language from the white house before. president obama gave a speech at the u.n. where he said, that the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam. i mean that is the progressive mentality. it is progressive ideology. and when thinks get really dangerous like they are now, it is on full display for the world to see. i mean look, i don't take anything john kerry says. the man own as yacht that he doesn't pay taxes on. he is not a serious person to begin with. but the danger is blame america first rhetoric. that is what we heard time and again. this is president, didn't even

go to paris. you mentioned cia, the first thing that he did try to prosecute the cia officers when he came into office. we shouldn't keep calling them leftist. the right direction is really backwards. harris: remember the arm in arm picture and i do remember that he was missing the president. he was not -- >> i think he was watching football. harris: we let that slip away from our recent memory. sandra: you wanted to throw coffee at your screen when you heard him say it. i had to watch it again to believe the words he actually said that going back to our intelligence and sharing of information, the words of the cia director john brennan at a recent security conference saying i do think that the sharing of information today is better than it has ever been before but it's still imperfect. that is a big concern, imperfect. i mean, i understand that there is going to be mistakes over time but to me that was a word of caution. that was, we haven't figured this out quite yet. we're not doing something right. it sound like an admission on

his part in the middle of all this. harris: if it is digital we could start there. you saw the healthcare.gov. you saw how this administration -- look at the hacks that have happened, the hackings i should say of computer databases. our own hr, the equivalent to the government's hr, six million fingerprints have come out. >> not only that, they're jumping over the white house fence. even simpler than that. andrea: very quick i would encourage everyone if you want to see why the president is doing what he's doing and he believes what he believes, go back to the cairo speech in 2009. everything you need to know is right there. he blames the west. he blames the west for its imperialism. calls us boarish. this is the apology tour king. read it is all there. our fault they say. harris: he is exploit being -- exploiting in every way, not embracing technology with our government. it is really hitting us. we'll move on. debate is heating up over

what to do about the thousands of ref refugees trying to es keep syria with the president blasting republicans. a top democrat breaking with ranks, breaking with the white house, saying we may need a pause in the refugee program. attorney general loretta lynch is raising some eyebrows dismissing idea of ferguson effect, flat-out denying her own fbi's assertion that police officers are afraid to do their job. is she right? is she being too politically correct? right after the show, catch us on the web, foxnews.com/outnumbered. quick on the "overtime" tab and we'll include you in the conversation because we love it when you chime in. live chat sits on page. question of the day on the right-hand side. check out that as well. fox news social media pages, facebook and twitter. stay close did you know that good nutrition

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think of more potent recruitment tool for isil than some of the rhetoric coming out of here during the course of this debate. these are the same folks often times who suggested that they're so tough, that just, talking to putin or staring down isil or using additional rhetoric will somehow solve problems out there but apparently they're scared of widows and orphans coming into the united states of america as part of our tradition of compassion. andrea: the president's comments come after more than half of american governors have said they either oppose or refuse to allow refugees into their states. but it is not just republicans voicing concerns. a top democratic senator, chuck schumer of new york, is also breaking from the president saying a paws may be necessary. republican lawmakers standing firm. house homeland security chairman mike mccaul issuing a bill to

settle this issue. listen. >> this bill basically puts the brakes, suspends, put as moratorium on the process until we have assurances that these individuals can be vetted by, and certified bit secretary of homeland security. until we have assurances that they do not pose a national security threat to the american people, these individuals will not be allowed into the united states under my bill. andrea: so can congress stop the president? jesse, i spoke with senior judicial analyst andrew napolitano just before the show, he said, highly unlikely. if they dump a number of these refugees in state like new jersey, chris christie says not happening in state, there is very little, if next to nothing he can do. >> if a governor says no, or says yes, they get there to drive across state lines going to another state. there is no way to track them. if the president cared so much about the syrian refugees, why did he stop them from being assessed by assad.

now to mock americans that want to protect america? is chuck schumer is coward? to say that republican rhetoric is responsible for helping isis recruit, i mean president obama's helped isis recruit more than anybody. this guy let isis take over 1/3 of iraq. he is actually releasing recruits from gitmo back into the battlefield. this guy has seen isis manpower go from 700 soldiers in 2008, to about 30,000 right now. so i don't see president obama as the big terror warrior here. isis, they don't care what republicans say about syrian refugees. they're laughing at bernie sanders for saying, climate change is bigger threat. it is crazy. andrea: not like they're not angry enough already that we're infuriating them. staying on jesse's point, i think it is important one, everything the president is doing seems to benefit isis is doing. he mentioned iraq and libya. everything the president has done from drawing a red line to as you mentioned releasing gitmo

prisoners, five of which were released on sunday night seems to be aiding them. why is he blaming republicans? >> there is legitimate fear to be had in this country especially, chuck schumer he represents new york city. if god forbid something else happens here, the president, terrorist attack in paris, president doesn't do anything differently, not doing anything, not putting boots on the ground, not changing anything at all. obviously people are scared. one of refugees is responsible for terrorist attack in paris. there are legitimate fears we could let isis infidels into this country and you're saying that i'm irrational talking about aliens landing. how do you not understand americans are scared right now? harris: i want to go back to this point, interesting how much of the news cycle moved on since sunday night. the guantanamo bay situation was blown out, almost on purpose they released information at that time. i'm saying almost because i don't know. there were five and we learned as the news was breaking on sunday night they will be going to the united arab emirates and

that transfer had already been vetted by the guantanamo review task force is what we're being told. but the big question is how much other countries really look after these guys? and i had a lt. general on set at the time who said you know what? we're restocking their management of terrorists. we're restocking their management. most of the guys we have, five taliban leaders, commanders, most of those guys were a little higher up, not all but do you want to restock the enemy's management right after paris. andrea: quickly, sandra the president blaming republicans politician as always. sandra: mocking them. andrea: mocking them. i want to point out what fbi director comey said recently in house judiciary committee hearing, he said it will being challenging to vet the refugees. they have never crossed our radar screen. singing off the different song sheet than the white house. fbi director saying i don't think we can vet them.

sandra: to jesse's point these are americans showing other concerns as americans. difficult to long at our president mocking, who happen to be republicans for the most part, chuck schumer jumping in, this will be a difficult conversation as we work our way through this election cycle for democrats to stick to their decision on letting refugees into this country, at least, listening to the president, at least question our vetting process or show concern that it may be imperfect. wouldn't that be a little bit more comforting? i think we're all kind of have appetite for that. andrea: just take a breath, take a break, take a pause to get something right for the first time ever in this administration. news breaking all day long out of paris and its suburbs after a deadly raid this morning. the manhunt is in full force for the mastermind of friday's massacre in the city of lights. we all know that terrorists communicate online, planning attacks on innocents. why can't our government hit them where it hurts? does the u.s. have any right to

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harris: draw your attention to what we're watching now on fox news alert on "outnumbered." we just learned friends second team of the french police departments and authorities are now inside of that apartment building they raided in a pre-dawn massive raid. this is suburb of paris. saint-denis. the raids targeted the suspected mastermind after french and belgian authorities were looking into communication. they got tipped off a family member or relative of that man suspected being the mastermind of the attacks on friday was inside of that apartment buildings. you can see on the right of your screen, which is footage from the raid earlier, the kind of force, fire force. you had french armed service forces members. you had police working in swat gear.

you had a number of people with different agencies raiding that building. they showed up with so much firepower they had a floor collapse inside of there. two people killed who were suspected of being one of the terrorists in support of them. also a woman who blew herself up with a suicide vest. but in all of this, no one who lived in that building reported hurt or harmed in any way as they evacuated quickly and moved in at the same time. imagine, the kind of coordination that would take by french authorities. so just a live look there, as those forensic teams are trying to determine if the mastermind's remains might have been left behind. not to get too detailed here there were body parts that were unaccounted for. that's what they're looking to see if they actually got him. co-host of the "america's newsroom," bill hemmer, joining us live from paris. wow, the work continues on into the night there, bill? bill: indeed it does, harris. good evening to you. this is when the french authorities do their work. three nights, more than 400

raids throughout paris and rest of france. 118 house arrests made to date so far. the this is what you're understanding is. they were tracking a woman believed to be possibly a relative the so-called mastermind, abdelhamid. they thought he was in syria. they are tracking this woman. lead them to the neighborhood. saint-denis in the northern suburbs of paris, france, one mile from the soccer stadium targeted last friday night. they arrest three people inside of the apartment. the police dog is sent in. the dog was killed. 90 minutes later police confront a woman with a suicide device. detonates and kills herself and wounds officers. another three hour operation. another round of explosions, two dead, five officers wounded and seven arrested. i want to emphasize yet again.

this is on the northern ring of paris. it is no the central area of the city and perhaps, they thought the suspected mastermind might be in this group. that has not been confirmed. bear in mind french intelligence officials, u.s. intelligence officials, they believe abdelhamid is in syria. we wait to find out whether or not he was inside the home here in paris. harris? harris: bill, one of the details we've been learning him bragging in videos before this how easy it was to cross the border into his homeland of belgium from syria. to kind of go all over the place from there. that it really was no challenge for him because belgium was such a soft spot. they have a suburb where a lot of terrorists have been nesting, if you will. belgium knows it has this problem within its borders. but it is interesting what you say. they have not been able to determine.

i mentioned they're doing dna testing right now to try to determine that. bill: maybe it was, maybe it wasn't but we have not been able to nail that down. if it is, harris, wow. you would have an active terrorist cell headed up by a terrorist you thought was not even inside of this country. so stand by for more on that. in the meantime there is this enormous debate back home about the refugees. i know paul ryan was on the floor of the house a moment ago. we can be compassionate and also be safe. he is urging a pause in policy the french president said earlier today we are at war and we will win and we'll still take in 30,000 refugees here in france over next two to three years. he said he can't stop going to the movies. you can't stop going to the concerts. you have to continue to live free. that is france's position as late as this afternoon. harris: also what we're watching here, bill, joint hearing of terrorism sanctuaries and general jack keane is on the

hill. you've got representative mccaul who has called that hearing and a lot of cyber expert, people there talking about refugee situation as well. this is topic heating at home. we've been watching that. i'm curious, as you're watching there, is there anymore been said about the evidence they feel they found that one of the suspects terrorists would have come through a wave of refugees? bill: yeah, nothing more than what we had yesterday and the day before. it is believed that a syrian passport, fake or real, legitimate or not, was found at the stadium site on friday night. that is what is giving fuel to the argument as to whether or not these refugees/migrants/terrorists came along that trail out of syria and made their way across the continent of europe only to embed themselves here in paris, france, and lay low until the time was right to strike. if this is all true and plays

out that way, it appears that the eight or nine terrorists from friday night were a combination of those who had left belgium and left france and went to join isis, only for some of them to come back here and carry out attacks. in addition the sleeper cells in paris and in brussels who neverl combination for intelligence agencies to try and figure out who to track and who to go after next. it's a massive and complex matter. andrea: bill, reports saying during that raid last night they were able to discover, french officials, that this terror cell was in the process of plotting another attack on france. can you report any details of what that attack would have looked like? bill: yeah, i don't have it on my own but i know what they're saying and what they are reporting, andrea, in central paris, the champs-elysees, which is the well-known shopping

street with the ash -day triumph on the west, and that is west of the business district. based on reporting there is suggestion they were plotting to carry out another strike there. not verified but that is some of the talk here in paris. sandra: bill, it is sandra here. secretary of state john kerry is speaking at an event in pair -- d.c. right now and he said quote, there is a strategy and it is working with regards to u.s. policy in syria. what does the french make of the u.s. response up to this point? bill: they want more and they want it fast. i can tell you over the past several days the u.s. is sharing more intelligence on the ground in western syria and western iraq. that is happening, we are careful as a government and a nation whom we give our information to. meaning, who could then receive that information as well.

but that is happening on the ground at least in syria. also, the french are moving their aircraft carrier, the charles de gaulle, into the eastern mediterranean. they will have several dozen fighter jets in the air by the end of the weekend. they were behind for a time in the military strikes. they seem to be catching up quickly. i also think it is very significant, isis and the message it's putting out today about that russian airliner, they put a photo out where they claim that, you know the bomb in this photograph as crude and simple as it is what brought down the jetliner. the reason i think that's important because the russians are boasting about the thousands of sorties that they have flown in the past 48 hours over syria. and isis is reacting to that quite strongly. harris: tell you, getting back to the breaking news today and the raid overnight, the pre-dawn raid, it was just amazing to see france's president francois hollande and stand up and thank his police department today

almost to the point of tears and gratitude in front of that whole assembly. it was really interesting to watch. bill hemmer, live from paris. we appreciate it. thank you very much. bill: sure. harris: we'll keep our eyes on that story. as you heard bill say, as they move into the night that is a lot of times you see biggest action. they're looking for that mastermind. if his remains are not at the apartment building you can bet the french authorities have more planned because they have been carrying out hundreds of raids on residences and other buildings throughout paris. we'll keep you watch on that and up-to-date if something happens later this hour. attorney general loretta lynch telling lawmakers there is no data to support the idea that police are cutting back fighting crime because they're under more public scrutiny. did she just settle the question of the ferguson effect? or is she just taking the more pc approach? we'll talk about. stay close.

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sandra: despite continued threats to europe and united states by isis the federal communications commission says it does not have the power to shut down the terror groups websites. fcc head tom wheeler saying he lacks jurisdiction over such social media platforms but adding that he can use the fcc's bully pulpit to presstek ceos on the issue. like face buck's mark zuckerberg this is amazing conversation that has yet to take place. how is it that the fcc can't such down the websites, jesse? >> they just shut down in new york, fantasy football websites. but they can't shut down isis.com? i just don't understand it. the president can't build a website, he can't shut down websites. maybe he wants to keep the things open for his hashtag diplomacy? if we will fight the war on

ideas, let's get rid of their propaganda arm. maybewe rerouted websites to healthcare.gov or something it might gum up the works. >> why with we abiding by the law in this situation? they are monsters. anonymous has done more to shut down isis twitter accounts than anybody else. thank god the hackers exist because apparently we'll have to go through bureaucracy to keep americans safe online. harris: we could do a very quiet agreement with group like anonymous, right? president obama said he was willing to work with anybody to bring forth a more settled and peaceful solution to syria. i don't know, maybe you get the moustache guy with anonymous and reach out to him in some kind of a way on dark site. >> women can't show parts of body on forms internet but you're allowed to have terrorism? >> very upsetting to me. hypocrisy. sandra: andrea, i want to bring you in on this wheeler went as

far as to say he will pick up the phone and call mark zuckerberg, the founder of facebook and say he will raise issue with him and he says i'm sure he is concerned as well and el have some thoughts. first of all, why isn't that conversation already taken place? mark zuckerberg will say he can do whatever he can do within the law to help the fcc shut these website down. andrea: there is already current law on the book. it is the same law that child pornography falls under and that is why doj can crack down on websites so quickly. the problem is, loretta lynch, the attorney general needs to do it. i would do a public press conference, any of these companies that allow terrorist activities on their site under federal current laws under the books will be prosecuted with the full extent of this government for aiding and abetting terrorism. you want to see mark zuckerberg jump into action? doj prosecution will get him to

jump into action. this administration has had all the opportunity to do this we had this discussion on the couch here. they have missed it. they're letting, this is what is so sick, letting the terrorists use our constitution and our rights and our internet and our free speech to conduct these attacks but they do have the legal power to stop it. we're just waiting for them to use it. sandra: same applies to gang leaders this is the no a new thing that the fcc is facing this challenge. harris: to go back to anonymous. there is no way to fact check how they're getting it all done, but more than 5000 sites they shut down. they are good at this. we're brilliant as a country. we could do seen more if we wanted to. your idea is good one. why hasn't loretta lynch done that? andrea: it is already on the books. they will respond. sandra, you know how corporations think and how they move. not just legal threat. it is pr threat. >> we with all that happened, tapping cell phone calls, and

can't get them to shut down an isis twitter account? let them sleep in the lincoln bedroom, shut them down, quid pro quo. harris: is this our weak spot, technology? it is hard to believe that it is. we put people on the moon in our lifetime. andrea: he is the first tech president. president obama ran impressive campaign that broke. every technology campaign hypothesis you couldn't do it. he did it. he is the guy to do it. sandra: mark zuckerberg would be happy to help. it would make him look like a hero to step in and help. the u.s. attorney general rejecting the idea of the national debate over use of force by police has made the country less safe as she put to rest the idea of the so-called ferguson effect. or is she being too pc? only glucerna has carbsteady, clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. so you stay steady ahead.

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harris: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first to jon scott what with is happening next hour of "happening now." >> presidential candidate jeb bush wrapping up major speech at the citadel in charleston. he says we're at war with isis and radical islam and we need to send troops to syria to fight isis terrorists. we'll have analysis and live report. raids overnight in paris left two terrorists dead including a female suicide

bomber. five police officers were injured and french k-9 dog were killed. police are gathering evidence they may have disrupted another plot. controversial report on iran's nuke program. suggesting that the iran's stockpile of enriched-uranium has actually grown the past three months. iran was supposed to reduce it significantly with a deal with the superpowers. more on this story as we get it, happening now. harris. harris: jon, wheel see you then. andrea: attorney general loretta lynch is pushing back against claims by fbi director james comey at that police are pushing back their work because of fears of harrassment on video because of ferguson effect. >> there may be anecdotal evidence as we all noted. there is no data to support it. what i have seen in the my

travels across the country, dedication, commitment and resolve of our brave men and women in law enforcement to improve in policing, to embracing the 21st century task force recommendations an continuing to have a dialogue that makes our country safer for all. andrea: so who is right? jesse, what police said they have taken steps to protect themselves because of black lives movement. but it is a real concern. fbi director comey said they weren't wrong. >> ifal when you get fear of cops, you will get a crime wave explode. rule of law in this country has not been respected over the last few years. you know, sharpton's in the white house. black panthers are off the hook. illegal aliens running wild in sanctuary cities. letting these people riot in the cities and letting people say, burn this down and they're not prosecuting him. i don't know what's going on but

you see what's happening and tarantino is now marching, "black lives matter," chanting for dead pigs. arrests are going down while crimes are going up and there is no coincidence. andrea: before i open to the couch i attorney general says she is traveling around the country and nobody travels more than "watters world. >> right. andrea: you were at university of missouri and done a fantastic investigative report on the new show, "watters world on 8:00 p.m. on saturday. >> thank you very much. harris: andrea: what did you see there? racial tensions are running high. >> there was very militant black student march, their little place safe zone to a student center. they occupied a white student center and kicked all the white people out. i didn't see, one, maybe two police officers. that is all i saw. there were students from all over missouri descending on this place. when you combine that with political correctness, i went up to a guy, hey man, can i do

interview. don't touch me that is sexual assault. they had transgender bathrooms. someone yelled at me for not recycling. so insane in these places you're wondering why everything is hitting the fan. harris: you company could back to the question andrea always likes to ask. andrea: which one? i ask a lot of questions. harris: when are they learning? part of the learning should be conflict resolution which is point that, is not getting talked about in all of this. go back to the university of missouri. when you read some of the reports and some investigations that have gone on with the things that reportedly happened there with regard to race, it is offensive, it's awful. there were things potentially going on that campus which would have been dangerous had they been allowed to maybe escalate. my concern is are they even looking at that still? this is the shiny object that the conversation that we're having now about pc, about just, ideas have run amok with people taking over university centers, so on, so forth, trying to get their agenda out there, what do

these young people really want? who is watching to make they're safe and who is learning? sandra: i don't understand why loretta lynch dismisses the anecdotal evidence. why does she need a piece of paper in front much her to think there is ferguson effect? james comey in that speech used very specific examples of this with police that he has spoken with on the ground changing their behavior. widespread use of cell phone video taken by people during arrests on these police. i mean he was very specific examples. while they're not producing some data on piece of paper to back this up, i don't understand the dismissal of the evidence at hand. >> we're living in time when people are screaming in the streets, pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. of course police officers are probably not going to be as readily available to jump into things if there is camera around. we're living in a time, all i want to say as we're closing this out, i've taken to, whenever i see soldier on street i say thank you for service. i say this to police officers.

i don't think they're getting enough love or respect. putting their life on the line for us every day. andrea: hug a cop, that is the moral. i will be the first to do it after this show. forensic teams scouring a apartment where police battled suspected is terrorists outside of paris today. they're reportedly testing dna to determine whether the ringleader of the attacks was killed. more "outnumbered" in a moment. ♪ @oyu0x?hy@x@8p

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the middle, #oneluckyguy. really living in your world. >> ref gees i'm well coming you. harris: we'll talk about it more in "outnumbered" overtime. click on the over time tab. now "happening now." "happening now". syrian refugee crisis front and from in washington after the paris terrorist attacks. republicans and some democrats warn the program holds dangers we don't know. rand paul joins us live to discuss his plan to keep some refugees out of the u.s. plus. it is massive flooding hitting the pacific northwest. a fierce storm leaves two