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the nypd did a scene where they were attacking a subway system. it had the beefed up counter terrorism tame. despite this, there's no credible threat on the city. i am kelly wright and now justice with judge jeanine. breaking tuesday brussels remains shut down and high alert. police cone the street for terrorists. welcome to justice and i am judge jeanine. let's go right to ben hall who is live. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, just to recap the last few hours, we have had 22 raids and not like the terrorist attack. now, in one of the districts nearby, a suspect tried to ram the police and opened fire in the car.

he escaped and then operations were under way and it was not to report to specifics and then after the raids were finished and central brussels is being locked down and then level four and then credible information of the attacks and a thousand soldiers have been drop in the street and then a capital and subway shop and sporting event and then remain closed and shut down and police told them to stay in doors and away from possible targets. there was a heavy warning with the multiple gunmen, and we don't know if that's being foiled and nothing was found tonight. they nuancannounced that they w not just that but to isis and they believe to be here in the city. meanwhile questions are being asked about brussels and about the districts. have they been infiltrated by

the radicals? we spent some time in the district and then muslim and then thought to be hiding out. it's become clearer because the concerns were ignored there. we spoke to friends of him and we said that the radicalization should have been obvious that had has been taking about it for the last year and watching the videos. we heard that he was in contact with friends of his, and now dispriet to make the way out to syria. what we know that is not so hard. the open borders here allowing to travel back and forth and then 5 hundreds have gone to fight isis and 130 have said to come back. two of the attackers are hidden among and coming across and that will spark a debate. he is in the city and wearing a suicide vest and agitated, and this continues over here and we have to see how it plays out over the next few days and big

questions being asked, back to you judge. >> thanks so much. all right. so to recap what ben hall has told us 16 arrests in belgium and the main suspect in the paris attack is still on the loose. finds like they did not find much on those that they did arrest. joining me now is james from the former assistant director. all right jim, thanks for being with us. belgium continues to be on the highest alert to monday. americans are on edge, and fbi director said on friday that there were no credible threats. what is this double speak if this happens that they're not reliable sources? >> well, they don't know of any particular thing like they're going to go and bomb this place and that place or they're plotting to do something.

they're there and have mentality. they do not have the intel that something is about to happen in a particular place. >> it's interesting because right before the attack in paris the frenchd that there were no credible threats. you have been around assistant director of the fbi 25 years and working through 9/11. >> yeah. >> what is a counter terrorism official. what have they learned? as you sit here tonight, are you comfortable that you we learned everything that we need to learn? >> well, cannot do it. cannot bring all of this up to professional level after the attack. >> right. >> you have to stay with it. you have to get the source in the communities. cannot have the belgium and they do not go into the neighbors and the radicals and own the neighborhood. >> why? >> that can't happen. >> let's talk about the united

states. >> they have been doing a great job. they have not been using the resources. i talked about it before when i did a show. they do not have the resources. they need substantial resources. i don't want to say where we need them. i don't want the sob's to know the weakens, but they need it. >> jim said we don't have what we need. he looks exhausted. i am sure that they're tremendous pressure on him. if we don't have the resources and we don't -- do we at least have the ability of the agencies that did not talk to each other before 9/11 talking to each other now? >> i think that that problem is solved. what is started years and years ago when i was a mid-grade

manager in the fbi, that brings them all together and that does a great job. again they do not have enough eyes and ears and the community itself needs to be calling up the fbi and local police. >> they're not doing that? >> they need to. they talk about this group is just this little one or two percent, but the rest of them are like and by the way most of them are paid for by saudi arab arabia. the ali. that needs to happen and there has to be a program to get into the communities. >> you say with all of the

passion, and i could not agree with you more. we have the same argument that they're going to have to join the coalition. here is the bottom line. they're coming for us. we do not have the muslim community saying that these are radicals. we don't have the other countries saying that. >> yeah, the nonsense and saying that we want to do a time-out for the refugees. we're the most help ers to refugees. we put $2 billion to the un. i would not trust them to the book. the noigs that they did a screening means nothing. >> so the last time i said what are we go to do call 800, what you explain to identify someone or mass someone with the database? >> well, we need someone with a data base.

we don't know who the people are. >> why is the president proposed to a no fly zone and keep the refugees there and know the community, culture and food. >> two years ago that's what he should have done. he has been behind, you know, head this in the sand the last number of years. they have not done that. >> you would halt the program? >> i would halt it until we felt good enough to bring them in. they should not be coming to europe. they should be going to the cultures that they grew up in.

in europe, very few of the people blended into the normal culture. very very few. we're very multity cultural here. >> take the two guys in boston. they came in here as asylum seek ers because they came from a violent -- >> yeah. >> well a little bit of checking would have shown that they flew back there a dozen times. why would they fly back to the violent country. >> with me now is retired u.s. air force general and former director of air operations for operation iraq freefreedom. how are you general? >> very good. >> i want you to listen to something. when i listened i thought to myself here is the problem.

>> we have a coalition of 65 members and going across multiple lines of effort and contesting the military under ground. >> and this is former defense secretary under president obama liam. >> this effort is not coordinated. people are not work withing together. everybody is kind of doing their own thing on different targets. we have the unify the command. >> okay. there you have it. you have the presidential spokesperson and then they say that we're all working together and we have multiple lines of effort and cutting off the finances. we're not working together what do you think? >> well, it's unfortunate but it's reflective and a very weak anemic strategy that really

needs to be brought together with a central focus. we need to recognize for what it is. a state. if one recognizes, they can put together a campaign and put it together as a functioning organizati organization. >> today the president said that -- what is the president talking about? beat us in a lot. do i need to go on? >> well, once again i think that's an effort to district people from the fact that there's a very weak and

desperate set of operations that are together that are trying to follow the principals of counter insurgent, when they don't apply here. it's very reflickive and you and others have heard me say this. i will keep on repeating it to give the audience an understanding of just how light the effort has been against the islamic state. we're only averaging about five strikes a day in syria against the islamic state. they do not compare that to over 12 strikes a day that we focus on iraq during desert storm. the islamic state can be taken apart in a matter of weeks. not in months or years. one has to put together a comprehensive focus and campaign to do that. one that dismantles the ability to demand and control. one that takes away the ability

to distribute oil and finances. one that separates off and so on and so forth. this all can be done. it can be done rapidly, but we have to apply our advantage to our advantage, and not sit back and try to repeat counter attacks. >> do you get the sense jena the president is more concerned about, you know, the syrian refugees and whether there's terrorists as apose today what you're saying? you have done this. why on top of that it's a refusal to do that, do we have people going out on television saying that this is what is going on when we all know it's not going on? >> well, again you would have to ask the president that. i can't answer or explain the

approach. we need to get serious on stopping the radical islamic terrorists who are using the islamic islamic state. until we do it. >> then you have another thing and you know, they're not joining. they're no coalition and coordination we have all of these people coming out and

saying that this is not you how it. how does that make you feel? >> well, once gain the enemies radical, islamic terrorists only understand power. they don't care about words. what we need do is speak in a language that they understand. as i said, we need to start to use it like a thunderstorm and not like a drizzle what is happening judge, is that there are leader in the nation today and using americans humanity to take advantage of that and impose the terror. we need to change the strategy. >> yep, could not agree with you more. thanks so much for joining us tonight. >> you bet. have a great evening.

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they have the right to be here? >> well, i mean if they're do they have a right to be here? >> if they have -- >> do they have a right. is there a right in the constitution saying that they have a right to come to our country and homeland? the lance is no. >> we're the united states of we welcome all immigrants. >> no we don't. >> it was a heated debate over the obama administration syrian refugee program. i have not changed my mind, but let's see what my next guest has to see. former aide to bill clinton and david good evening.

>> thanks. >> why is the president so in vetsed in the program, that he sends the chief of staff to convince them to vote against it and then 47 democrats vote for the bill and some of the most liberal. why are they so invested in this? >> don't expect me toville identify. i think if you want to roll the clock back to when st. francis was here in the united states and then the counsel voiced the support for expecting retfugees and this is when jesus taught us all a lesson. that's where it came from and this is prior to the paris attack.

i think that there's still affair amount of support from a moral issue given the fact that these are refugees fleeing isis from all of this. >> can you understand -- >> let me tell you i get on the subway every morning at my son on the subway, and i take him to school and then to my office. if you don't think that i consider terrorist threat tons ride, you're crazy. of course i do. so do million of other americans around the country. i am not going to something.

this is when we all come together. this is about betting the real enemy here. the real enemy is the terrorist and the terrorist organization and isis. what do they want? to in still in us absolutely irrational fear. that's they want. i refuse to let them win. i want to hear from leader. i am talk about the republican from tennessee that shares the former relation or senator diane the ranking one. what do they think? they say, if i may, that refugees are not the big issue here. there's a whole other set of issues that we should be focussing on.

i listen to that. instead of trying to score political points who is up and who is down they're talking about safety now. >> with all due respect, nobody is trying to score points. they want to keep americans safe. and if the terrorists are -- >> you don't think donald trump is trying to score points? >> let me tell you he's running for president just like hillary clinton is saying there's no-fly zone over syria when she never said it before. >> let's not talk about that. >> isn't that the point? isn't that what the president wants? us focus on something other than are we fighting isis and finishing them off? why is the president saying we're winning the day before the paris attacks? why is john kerry saying, you know, america is winning and isis is losing and isis is contained. well, why? i don't want to talk about the refugees. i want to talk about the war. but what they're doing is they're focussing up on things that are not as important as winning the war. >> judge, i don't have enough on this segment to go into the different ways in which this is extremely complicated, and it doesn't fit well with the sound byte. i can't spit out an answer for you.

i'm not going to sit here and defend the word to the president or john kerry or donald trump. what i understand is this united states for decades going back to the reagan administration has worked with supporting saudi arabia, for example, saudi arabia which has training camps for radical islamic -- >> what does that got to do with us? >> well, the answer -- >> it's a complicated world. i want to protect americans. >> sure. >> i don't want them in. so why are we still supporting the country in the middle east that is doing the most -- >> i'm not supporting them. i'm telling you what i think. if your president, our president -- why? david? >> right. >> thanks. >>well, i'm sorry did you want me to answer that or say goodbye? >> we're out of time but go ahead quickly. >> we're not going to be able to answer this in a 30 second sound byte and the presidential candidates who are trying instill fear should be ashamed of themselves. >> i didn't ask you about them. but, david, thank you.

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live and the streets of central brussels looking like an armed camp tonight. security personnel are out in force following a series of 22 raids in which 16 people were detained. 19 of the raids focussed on three houses in central brussels. no explosives or firearms were found. the city remains on a level four alert. salah abdeslam a fugitive from the paris attacks is not among

those detained in brussels. meantime homeland security secretary is reiterating there's no credible threat against new york city tonight. still the nypd is prepping for a worse case scenario after an isis threat against the city last week. police were holding a drill this morning at a city subway station days before the macy's thanksgiving day parade. now back to "justice." a lot of reaction to my opening last night. here are highlights. >> isis is spreading death and destruction in paris. al qaeda doing the same in mali. the killing of innocents in lebanon. mr. president, can you not understand? we're scared. all we want is the truth. no unsubstantiated narratives. al qaeda is on the run. isis is a jv team. the day before the paris attack you're crowing isis is contained

and that genius side kick kerry of yours said we're winning and isis is losing. we're not afraid of the truth. we're not afraid of syrian refugees most of whom are playing isis. what we are afraid of is radical islamics. muslim terrorists who think the height among syrians to enter our homeland. and instead of reassuring us, you say we're popping off? you're more angry with reporters who are asking questions on our behalf than you are the isis barbarians. and you preach what our values should be. that we can't slam the door on refugees as if we're cold-hearted creatures. you yourself said we spend more than any other country on humanitarian aid. and don't play the religion card. that's we're not christian if we don't do what you want.

it's the individual who turns the other cheek. not the government. it's the individual who is supposed to be charitable. not the government. you tell us, you tell us that these refugees are subjective to rigorous screening and security background checks. that's baloney and you know it. and the head of the fbi knows it. the head of homeland security knows it. the director of national intelligence knows it. how the hell do you vet someone who has no papers or possibly a fake passport that you can buy for 750 euros like one of the terrorist attackers in paris. how do we know the name they give us is true. what will you do? call 1-800-assad and say, look, i know we're trying to kill you and i know you're not scared of me and you're busy with a civil war, but can you have your clerk

check her records to see if mohamed is a terrorist? and even if you got that call through, i wouldn't believe you because you have already proven you're not capable of protecting us. russia told you twice that the boston bombers were terrorists. the fbi interviewed them twice and said nothing to see here, folks. they were on a terrorist watch list. and still went in and out of our country. you never stopped them. be honest for once. this is no different than what you did at the southern border for central americans fleeing poverty. there are no controls. you take their fingerprints and if you do they're just on their way. god help us. the islamic state may be the

wealthiest terrorist organization the world has ever seen. so the idea of cutting off their funding is a very difficult task. but is it the only way to finally destroy them? former terrorism finance analyst at the u.s. department of treasury dr. jonathan shanzer. good evening. not only did the president's representatives say we were part of 65 country coalition. we're working to cut off isis' finances. do you buy that? >> i think we're doing what we can. it won't be enough. in other words, we're bombing isis oil installations and trying to attack some of their funding from other outside gulf countries, for example. but what the president and the spokes people neglect to mention is more than 50% of isis significant finance comes from the plunder and tax of the territory they control. so that means the more territory they control the more wealth they have and the fact we have

not been able to push them back. that we haven't been able to take back a lot of that territory they conquered is the reason why isis has the money it has today. >> but, you know, when you talk about the oil and, you know, the oil fields. didn't it take 15 months to start, you know, attacking and bombing the oil fields? because of the infrastructure? >> it did. there's a lot of concern, obviously, about what it might do to the oil markets. i also understand there is concern about taking out civilians. of course, i disagree with that greatly. what we have to do is we have to hit them where it hurts and they may need to occur civilian casualties along the way. when you talk about the money they're making from taxes and the people living on the land. they started out by going after the banks of mosul and came out with more than a half million dollars. now they're making $500 million a year from the oil fields. yet it was only a few months ago

that we started bombing the oil fields. >> that's right. and, you know, you have to i mean you're right. what we've been doing is slow to getting around on all of these issues. there are other things, by the way, i don't think we have done good enough job on. there's anticties leveling coming out of isis territory. we're not cutting down on the turks who are buying the oil. the 565 mile boarder is open. and it's a nato ally of ours. we have done barely anything to stop it that. >> thank you so much for being with us. >> and with me now is pulitzer prize winning investigative journalist judith miller. judy, isn't this discussion about pausing syrian refugees a side show? i'm all in favor of pausing the program but we shouldn't be talking about meeting isis? >> absolutely. the best defense of our offense is our homeland. we heard it from general jack kuhn who said we have 3,000 people on the ground now advising and training in syria. we need ten. you cannot win this war just

through air power. we also have to unleash air power. we have really got to be serious about defeating isis militarily and aid logically. we haven't even begun to start the war against ideology. >> what the doctor said about the money they make from the oil fields. we're pretty smart. why did only a few months ago say maybe we should go after the funding source? they're making a million dollars a day with the oil. >> ting all comes back to the determination that the president lacks to really do something about isis. this was the jv team. these are the guys who couldn't shoot straight. these are the guys who are already contained. >> okay. >> even as they continued to accumulate territory. >> right. and said we're beating them on the battle field. really? you have written books and lived in the middle east. now you just returned from cairo. what you just said about the president.

what do the egyptians and people in the middle east think of our president and what do they think of us? >> well, you know, the egyptians have been fighting. you were there with me, and this is a war that egypt is deeply involved in. they are fighting on the western desert. they are fighting in the sinai. they had their plane, a russian plane blown up. 224 people killed. they said where was the united states? they asked me when was the expression of sympathy from your president? why wasn't he on the phone with president cisi? why wasn't he the one to demand retribution. they feel a little annoyed and hurt that they have been such a good ally of the united states but they really feel that when something happens in paris the whole world mobilizes and becomes outraged. but when something happens to egyptians and egyptian policeman die, russian passengers are blown up in planes.

there's not a comparable action. >> not that it's any comfort to them, but our president didn't bother to go to paris. you know, 40 world leaders there were but i think that, look, our president chose a muslim brother -- line up with the wrong person. we wouldn't give them any of the tanks or the helicopters. >> apaches that he needed to fight isis with. the sinai peninsula is the heart of egyptian tourism. their economy depend on it. 90 million people who are our allies and the first arab country to make peace with israel and yet when they really needed us and our help, we weren't there in a serious way. we do what we have to do but we don't do more than that. >> this morning on the talk shows the president sound out an envoy. he says, well, we have a 65 country coalition. i said do you believe that? >> sure. we have it on paper.

>> all right. >> it's hard -- >> at least now the french have started bombing and they've been bombing intensely with, by the way, intelligence packets prepared by the u.s. government. so i ask you, judge, why weren't so i ask you, judge, why weren't we the ones with that intelligence information who were bombing a long time ago? why did it take the death of 130 people in paris to start what we should have done a long time ago? the 9/11 commission said 9/11 commission report said the one thing you cannot do is let isis or al qaeda or any group that believes what they believe seize territory and hold it as a sanctuary. and the completely ignored it. >> judy miller, thank you so much. >> thank you, judge. and judy from the american islamic forum for democracy is

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new fears want to as isis thereto to bes more brutal attacks. while police make raids with me now is president of the american islamic forum for democracy. good evening, doctor. i want you to listen to this. the prominent muslim and lawyer suggesting today on "meet the press" that the world reacted too strongly to the paris attacks because of racism. take a listen. >> i mean i think racism i think it has a lot to do with it. you have a black predominantly muslim country in mali which is 92% muslim and a white european

country like france. we're horrified at the terrorist attacks. through are terrorist attacks that occur every day. in the same week of the paris terror attacks there were suicide bombings by isis, beirut, baghdad, lebanon. we never saw any sort of -- >> do you agree? >> absolutely not. i mean what the islamists do is that they work with the left to racialize an ideology which islamism and ideology. they want to racialize it so we enact laws in the west. it's about who we are. france is not the same as mali. we were attacked by home grown terrorists. he doesn't want to deal with the threat of radicalization of why the islamics feel they're supremacist over the secular west. why french nationalist.

so ultimately that's the difference. they don't want to deal with that. they want to racialize it and say we're the same as one global community. >> and, you know, it reminds me of the syrian refugees is kind of like the side issue and, you know, we're not focussed on the reality. let me ask you, doctor. you're a military man, why brussels? what is going on in brussels? is it so easy to hide there be under the radar or don't people care? >> well, it's bottom line there are areas in europe in which the government has not been monitoring areas that have those preaching pro islamics fall -- call fichl, if you will. and they've had over 190 go to syria. 200 have come back. belgium because of its milieu, if you will of not assimilating.

the u.k. is doing a better job right now of targeting islam schism and as long as you don't target the ideology, you become a cauldron of brewing radicalization in the communities that are supposed to be immigrants but yet sort of keeping the ideologies of where they came from. >> you know you've been talking about this for a long time, and we've had you on "justice" many times. do you sometimes feel like a voice in the wilderness, doctor, in that it's going to happen and you're going to say i told you so? doctor, in that it's going to happen and you're going to say, i told you so? >> well, i mean, obviously that is true. you feel that way. but i can tell we're getting closer to a tipping point. there was a video that went viral yesterday from a french young muslim with millions of hits where he said, this is our country. we need to take it back from the radicals and we need to fight for the republic and eventually i think if we can put enough heat on muslim to fight for reform, to demand that they be honest, to have the courage to stand up not only against the

imams that are innestisized radicalism, but until then, we're not going to see change and i think we're getting to the tipping point. >> thank you so much. we'll be right back. business expenses, i'm in charge of it all. so i've been snapping photos of my receipts and keeping track of them in quickbooks. now i'm on top of my expenses, and my bees. best 68,000 employees ever. that's how we own it. plan well and enjoy life... ♪ or, as we say at unitedhealthcare insurance company, go long. of course, how you plan is up to you. take healthcare. make sure you're covered for more

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before we leave you tonight, we're following breaking news out of new orleans. multiple reports tonight of a shooting inside a park in the ninth ward. several people -- some reports saying ten or more -- have reportedly been shot. no word on what sparked the shooting or the extent of injuries. as always, keep it on fox news and foxnews.com for breaking news updates throughout the night. and now for the results of tonight's instapoll, is defeating isis the president's priority? and, if not, what is? wendy says, "no, his top priority is improving his golf game." lance says, that's an easy question. global warming. and isis will be defeat fd it were a priority. for a super power, he's turning us into a jv team. and, of course national security

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