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montcruz. this is south of paris. it had all the materials that were used in the explosive that killed 130 people in paris about a week ago. so they're on high alert again. i don't know how much higher they can be. i'm here with "the five." after the paris attacks, president obama pleads with the media to offer some perspective. >> the media needs to help in this. i just want to say, during the course of this week, a very difficult week, it is understandable that this has been a primary focus. but one of the things that has to happen is how we report on this has to maintain perspective
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and not empower in any way these terrorist organizations or elevate them in ways that make it easier for them to recruit or make them stronger. they're a bunch of killers with good social media. >> that's our o. his first reaction is always about overreaction. i think he overreacts about overreaction, and if there is underaction about overreaction, that's a refraction. i await retraction. he's right, though, it's been a tough week. it's strange he never asks the media for perspective when emotional responses help him out, the climate change, guns, or even his own popularity. when the press fell head over heels with him, he never said, a little perspective, guys. i'm not all that. no, when it's his crusade, you better lick that boot.
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but maybe he's worried that terroris terrorists steals the spotlight from climate change. just look at the isis franchises popping up all over drought-ridden california. oh, wait. but we're used to our concern being smeared as fear-mongering. disdain for our priorities feels lifted from west wing scripts. it blocks any path to unity. the white house mascot should be the ostrich, head in the sand and always sees his ass. whatever. time to prepare for evil. you aren't living in fear but learning to be feared. the islamists are mindless droids fueled by idealogy. there is no islamaphobia when you're fueling a fire. we may not be who you are, either. good for us.
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>> kimberly, the strategy. play down the threat so as not to feed their propaganda. the problem is he's believing that bologna. >> he talks as if, let me know, check my bill, because am i going to get a bill from the president? i don't feel better, in fact, i feel worse. this shows me he has grossly underestimated the task at hand that's facing this country and the rest of the world, for that matter. he's saying we're overreacting. it's understandable, you're getting a little wound up or upset, this was not a good week, but he's saying it shouldn't be the primary concern. that we have misconstrued it, we have overinflated it andhey're just killers. no, mr. president, that's a group that sings songs. isis beheads people. there's a difference. >> nobody can agree with the need to not be hysterical. >> i'm shocked with what's going on. think about what's going on in the last couple weeks. the leaders of russia, france
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and now england are warning president obama. this is a real problem, time to step up, wake up. the generals and the intel department are not only just telling him, they're going on tv telling him, hey, we need to wake up. isis is moving and we need to do something about isis. the american people, 81% agree there is a threat. there is going to be an attack, they believe, either very soon or soon, and only 18% say there is not going to be an attack. the president sits on an island. he's free of all happening around him, the media, england, france, russia, us -- and you wonder who is also in agreement with president obama at tht point and is just doing so to be by his side, but you could be complic complicit. wow, this is huge. this is in the "new york times"
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exposing that president obama may have had people in the pentagon changing what they know is true, the farkts to support his rhetoric that isis is the jv team. that's dangerous. >> and we're going to visit that in the c block. all right, dana. he says not to panic here. however w every other clamty, he basically uses this as a force for comprehensive. well, and he also makes sure he has something to fight against, so any concern you have is actually ill legitimate inany ways. i understand he wants me not to worry, i understand he wants me not to panic, he wants me to feel better. all of these people. they waited until they wrote their memoirs and then they told us they disagreed with him, but
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now we know that's what. we had plitt co today saying, the strategy is absolutely not working. so he wanted. >> it's like a marriage where one of the spouses thinks there is a big problem going on, and the other one will not share in the problem, and it just makes the other spouse angrier and angrier because you're like, really, it's not that big a deal. are we overreacting to his reaction? >> i don't think so. a lot of democrats actually share this feeling and sthar the concern that he won't speak about it as radical islam. i think that's one of the most interesting things coming out of
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the polls you have a majority saying this is radical islam, even though he won't say it. i'm getting e-mails from my elderly mother who post pictures of him in the nabld. so i think people are skafrd, they should be skarpd. fine -- >> in the middle of your monologue, you said sound bite. this doesn't explain where president obama's head is. isil is just a bunch of thugs with guns and soshl media. the rest of russia is attacking them to 2,000 sort he's. england wants to get involved. they say it's their turn.
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it's not focused on what they're focused on. he's focused on prejudice. >> we will not give in to fear race or background. that wouldn't just be a betrayal of our values, it sfwlz sfrmz, including muslim americans. prejudice and discrimination helps isil and undermines our national security. >> who is he talking to, kimberly? i feel like this is an aryan-sorkin script. >> i don't know. he should actually talk to someone who will listen. he's actually making me more stressed out. that's the president? i don't want to hear how we need
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to be the kinder, gentler, send the gift back. we want to sleep well at night because we believe the guy in charge has this handled, that he's going to do the right thing about it, but he seems very distracted by clouds and other things. it's disconcerting, isn't it? what is going on here. >> it's like you can lead a president to water but you cannot make him take charge. the world says, can you please take charge? >> i think everyone in america was watching you go to that place at the same time and wondering, what is she going to do? and you did. can i give you another metaph. and the coach is just playing the same run game and you're about to lose.
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it's like a boxer that you know he's losing by points, but he still won't change. sporting champ by the name of t tom. >> this has changed rpgts terrorists have changed, continuing expansion of isis, the more sophistication has to come to a halt. >> i don't think the approach is sufficient for the job. i'm concerned that we don't have the time and we don't have years. >> the resources applied to that mission frankly have not been sufficient to confront that. and for that reason, i think we've got to be much more aggressive and much more unified in the effort to take on isis.
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>> kirsten, it's disturbing to see all these right wingers going after president president. i don't think this is a partisan issue, but i, a girl that's in idealogy thaet rooted in religion. it just fits the world view and narrative that they have. >> when i was with president obama they said. i'd love for him to say, i got t tht. >> >> to two religions.
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>> can i mention one thing about the social media piece when president obama says that isis is just a bunch of killers with good social media? one of the things we talked about for years is, okay, where is our social media strategy against them. now we actually have anonymous, which is. snohomish they will help identify attacks which is kwh why you had, over the weekend, the world wrestling groups. we see isis wants to attack them. that actually affected people who decided not to go to the event. >> you were planning on not going. >> i was participating. i do it on the weekends. i have quite a good -- >> how is that? >> they are now the white house. >> do you know who is protecting them, too? the gambino family. they literally said, we got this, in new york city.
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>> i'm fine with that, honestly. >> i'll ta that over to de blasio. carson talks surveillance and rubio talks skaurt -- security in his first ad of the campaign, up next.
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a brand new poll says terrorism tops economy as the most important issue facing america. donald trump says he would stiffen america's policy. >> i would bring it back, yes. i think waterboarding is peanuts comparing to what they're doing to us, what they did to james foley when they chopped off his head, that's a whole different level, and i would absolutely bring back interrogation. >> and ben carson wants more surveillance. >> i said in the larger capacity that we should monitor anything: mosque, church, school, you know, shopping center where there is a lot of radicalization
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going on. we've learned last week that the fbi seems to be only to be able to monitor 60 people at a time. we know there is a lot more than that that need to be monitored. >> greg, would you like to share your comments with us? >> no. >> you can read his mind, can't you? >> i'm all for surveillance, i'm all pro waterboarding, but it's just information to stop an event. it doesn't prevent behavior. we need to think about catching the act before it happens, which waterboarding is for once you catch somebody. know what i'm saying? >> yes. >> but i would add, rubio is combining forcefulness with
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thoughtfulness, and i think that's why he scared democrats, because he comes off inspirational with a show of force with thoughtfulness and casual ties. >> he seems to have touched you. >> that is a disgusting comment. he hasn't laid a hand on me. >> i think it's very interesting that the debate has changed. i think you guys called that it was dpg to going to be a foreigy election. i thought it would be jobs and the economy, and it flipped in light of what happened in paris and who knows what else will happen. i think i saw this walking in, they found another vest, another explosive vest in paris, in one of the suburbs, i believe, in a garbage can? which means there is more of this going on, and you guys are right spot on, but what's best? trump talks tough, he means what he says, he says what he means.
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his analogy about waterboarding went further than just, hey, we should waterboard. what they do to ours with water is worse when they put them in cages and drown them, and it really resonates. >> really, is our standard what these monsters do? >> that's not what we're saying, but we are entitled to do what's legal and enhanced interrogation techniques are legal. it's more of a policy change. >> this argument just falls plat for me, always. they're monsters and so we'll just be a little better than they are. i mean, that's not an argument. i think you need to make a proactive argument in favor of waterboarding. we're not beheading people, you know -- >> waterboarding produces results. we got osama bin laden's body guard to tell us information that led to osama bin laden through waterboarding. >> you guys understand that isis are beheading and doing these acts to innocents.
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we are, specifically, with information and facts to back it up, seeking information to prevent future acts. that's not what he said. >> that's a totally different argument. >> no, his argument is they're monsters and so, therefore, it's okay to waterboard them. i just don't think that's an argument. i think we either argue that -- >> i think you're kind to monsters. >> in saudi arabia, they don't let them build churches, so i think we should -- john mccain would not necessarily agree to that. some people think it's not moral and doesn't produce good enough results. so there is another argument. >> dana? >> having been the white house
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spokesperson during the interrogation debate, i find it remarkable that we have come so far in just seven years to go from, it's abhorrent, it's not going to happen again, both donald trump and obama voting against waterboarding. it just shows that things can change. i think the point you were making, kimberly, is a good one, which is you actually have to capture terrorists in order to, and in other places, cooperation with other countries. it's not a fun business at all, and i think what we ask our intelligence committee to do is very tough. they're not being to do. it is against our morals, against our constitution.
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the point is, as i think these three candidates and others are trying to understand, we understand the general nature of this war, it's sievization at stake and we would be better than hillary clinton. >> things would change when you're at war. think about that, too. next, change your assessments on isis in order to fit with the obama narrative. you don't want to miss it. jeb bush: we do not have to be the world's policeman.
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we have to be the world's leader. who's going to take care of the christians that are being eliminated in the middle east? who's going to take care of israel and support them - our greatest ally in the middle east? the united states has the capability of doing this, and it's in our economic and national security interest that we do it. i will be that kind of president and i hope you want that kind of president for our country going forward. announcer: right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message.
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by intel. they are wondering whether the analysts were pressured to cut back on their warnings. they say it does not match isis' rhetoric. >> it's almost all the time what we hear and see on the ground when we talk to the folks who are actually doing the work and what we see in the finished product, and i think more alarming, what we hear the president and his senior officials saying to the public, it just doesn't jibe with what they're saying in public and what we see on the ground. >> the president says he insisted on day one he doesn't want intelligence to be shaded by politics. >> i have made it repeatedly clear to all my top national security advisers that i never want them to hold back, even if the intelligence or their opinions about the intelligence, their analysis or interpretations of the data
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contradict current policy. i don't know what we'll discover with respect to what was going on at centcom. what i do know is my expectation, which is highest ability to the data, the truth. >> you can imagine why the president calls paris a setback if he's actually being told something different. >> it's a long list starting with isis being the team, et cetera. here are important facts about this. this isn't one analyst who feels like his information was ignored during this compilation of data, it's dozens, number one. number two, it's the "new york times" group that found this out and is bringing it to the forefront. number three, the inspector general is going to find out what happened. dozens of analysts think their
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information was changed to specifically fill in obama's narrative of isis not being as big a threat as they are. in the meantime, we're making decisions based on these analysts' analysis. people could be dying. for me, if this is exposed the way the "new york times" is kind of alluding to, this could be the worst thing of his whole presidency. >> kimberly, the article says that the analysts are saying that their supervisors were, quote, particularly eager, unquote, to paint a better picture. so if you're an investigateor, you start to follow the trail and see where it leads? >> also you look and see, what's the motivation here? how sickening is this? he has the most respect wh. if you have information like that and you're telling the public something completely
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different and asking them to basically cook the books to make it look favorable, all of this could look very bad for him if the truth came out. he then, knowing that, acted on this and didn't do the right thing, didn't follow through with the concerns we have for national security. i mean, wow. i think that could have been one of the worst things he's done. it's like top of the list, obama's greatest hits of wonders. >> there's a lot of competition there. erica is right, this was reverse-engineered. they had to work backwards. and it's they worry about his fraj i go. you say it's a big scandal, but translated, it's something the. it is under vegs and there's no one saying that the white house directed this, but perhaps
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they -- yeah. we need to wait and find out why this is happening, but if we think this logically, what would the motion people are getting good information so nothing bad happens and they don't come back to them and poipt a. let's say they were drg on their own. they're being told by -- >> isn't that what i just said? >> yeah, but you're dismissing it, saying it's probably not van doctor but someone else. >> did we not only heard the psychiatr psychiatric. >> it is under invests. we'll continue to follow it. we're coming um.
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with humira, remission is possible. welcome back to the fastest 7. in a rare tv interview, rush limbaugh sat down with chris wallace on fox news sunday, and per typical rush, a man calls him like he sees him, and also per typical rush, he's pretty spot on. >> barack obama's number one enemy is the republican party and the conservative movement. you see he gets animated, he doesn't need cue cards, he doesn't need a teleprompter when he starts ripping into them, but when you get isis on board or anything in the middle east, very cautious, very precise, very don't want to offend them or make them mad. >> let me pick up on that.
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>> i think it's really dangerous. i think the country is in more danger than people know. >> i don't disagree with a lot of it, but if we covered every incident of rush dashing obama, we would have no room for william devane. i'm william devane. >> william devane speaking was such a good president on "24," wasn't he? >> he was good. where were we? rush. >> rush was spot on. i was just going to get to james rosen back to business here about the worldwide travel alert that's been issued by the state department to americans traveling abroad. this is in writing from the state department saying the threat is real and to exercise due caution at any open air theater events, concerts, anything like that you're attending or go to. >> i'm not going to go anywhere,
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but now i'm right. >> now it gives you an excuse to just stay home and drink. >> exactly. >> quick thought on rush before we move on? >> the president does become very animated when we're talking about -- look how animated he becomes talking about people who oppose letting the syrian refugees in. i think that they should come in, but i don't agree that everybody who disagrees with me is some zin-aphobic racist, but if he showed some of that for the terrorists, it would be nice. >> what we've been saying a long time, finally the left wing has arrived at the party. >> if you are in this religion, you probably do have values that are at odds. this is what liberals don't want to recognize. you may be from a country, as there are many, many muslim countries that either have
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sharia law or want sharia law. those values are not our values. this idea that somehow we do share values that all religions are alike is [ bleep ]. >> dana, your turn. >> ben dominic, who is from the federalist, he was actually on the panel. he's not in that clip, but i asked him what did he take away from that when he's sitting there and watching bill maher. he said, there is a limit to the amount of b.s. that even bill maher can stand, and he's even more cynical than on the left and that's actually a good place to be. >> he's saying what a lot of people at this table said for a long time. >> it's the okay when bill maher says it, clause. if we had said it, he would be making fun of it, although it's nice to see him joining the party. on his show he's now the left wing corrector. so when a liberal comes on and expects him to agree with him, it's like they touch a hot stove. he burns them immediately,
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whether it was ben affleck or the woman from canada who was very left wing, wait a minute, i thought you were my friend. >> is it turning around now? is he finally seeing it? >> no. sorry. but i like bill maher for that. >> bill maher, he's had this issue for a long time. this is one where he's actually said, look, it's a false equivalency when he says all religions are this way, all religions are that way. i don't think this is a liberal view he's expressing. he's basically saying they don't share liberal values. that's actually somewhat of a liberal position. >> can those on the left say radical islamic terrorists? and why not? >> most of them won't. >> why? he could. he will. >> he absolutely would, and i think a lot of democrats obviously would say that, and a lot of liberals would say that, but i think you have the people that are in president obama's
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camp and i think they'll go back to jeb bush and say, we don't want to alienate our partners. they would probably say that. >> the american music awards from last night, loved the show, big fan. the acts were great. acceptance speeches, 10 seconds long. perfect. there was also a tributes to the terror attacks in paris. celine dion with a heart-wrenching tribute. but also jared leto told the story about how his band had just played two months prior. >> tonight we honor the victims of the unimaginable violence that have taken place in paris and around the world. france matters, russia matters, syria matters, mali matters, the middle east matters, the united states matters, the entire world matters, and peace is possible.
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>> dana, your thoughts. >> it seems there are so many awards shows, unfortunately, there are so many of these incidents but award shows follow pretty quickly afterwards. i remember after 9/11, tom cruise, i think during the oscar said, acting, which is not that important a thing, but by the time they got to the oscars, he said, i realize it's the most important thing that we do. i think it's a good message of peace at a sn awards ceremony le that. >> people pushed back a little bit, but i still kind of liked his tribute. >> he means well, he's a smart kid, but i'm not a big fan of peace. the only kind of peace i like is the one you reload. after these events, there is no shortage of people talking about peace and pushing hash tags and the peace sign with the eiffel tower, you saw that on twitter.
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everybody does that and then they go about their lives. they think when they do this, that's all they need to do. no, you have to take a self-defense class. you need to get a permit to carry. you have to tell your family about killing terrorists. >> i love your paranoia. i find it exhilerating. >> that was a amazing. people were crying in the audience. yes, celine dion was amazing and i would expect nothing less. she's sold out massive venues in vegas and elsewhere across the world. >> i thought it was interesting about the all lives matter thing. >> he didn't get the memo. >> he's basically saying we all matter. >> he will get backlash for that. >> he's probably going to get like $15 million for using their
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. thanksgiving just three days away, and if any of you are worried about getting into arguments about politics at the dinner table, "saturday night live" came up with ways to divert it. >> i actually saw it when i was picking up yams. >> no, it wasn't, that was an asian woman. >> why do your friends keep antagonizing the police? >> why would you ask my boyfriend that? ♪
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>> dig in, everyone. >> thanks, adele. >> adele herself got a big kick out of that skit. she was the musical guest on snl this weekend and posted this picture on instagram of her reaction when she saw the sketch. cute. i'm wondering who is the problem at your thanksgiving? is it you or the other guests? >> i'm always the problem, but -- two things. they invited me for thanks giving and then disinvited me. >> i heard that. everyone thinks she's nice. >> terrible. so i'm free for thanksgiving, america. i thought this was a terrible skit and here's why. where is the risk or danger in going after people that powers that be already go after? our president is already making fun of americans for being overly cautious or being hysterical. what did "saturday night live" do? instead of going after obama, they go after the very people obama targets. they go after americans. screw you! >> you're officially too
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cynical. this was a great skit, don't you think? >> this is why he has a lot of gastrointestinalal issues, because he has a lot of angst. >> not after tomorrow. >> please don't take me through that procedure. >> why did you disinvite poor little greg? >> because -- you asked the question who is the real problem at thanksgiving? it's not thanksgiving, it's for the day after, and i didn't want you to feel trapped. because if i take you there and you're bored and want to leave, it will be awkward. >> so you're insulting your friends at "the five" for inviting me to your house -- >> guess what. you know our friend kennedy on fox business? i'm on her show tonight, and i am going to reveal my advice for dos and don'ts at talking politics. that's at 8:00 p.m. tonight. i love this one, if it gets so
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ex asper ating with your uncle mac, plant a conspiracy theory in his head that you know he'll repeat the next day. >> send me an e-mail that i'm getting called in to work. breaking news. >> my advice -- i actually love that skit because they went after black lives matter. that was pretty good. they went after all the things you're not supposed to talk about at dinner. they said, hey, what happens if this happens. adele was great. >> get a dell computer. up next we're going to have o "one more thing."
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writer if you've never heard of him and he serenaded jasper. >> a guy serenaded your dog? this is so perverse. >> and the sock monkey was there, see? >> by the way, kimberly, you've got a good "one more thing." >> thanks be to god and the pope, because we have one more story that's very heartwarming in light of what's going on in the world. pennsylvania couple joe and kirsten masstrontonio claim that the brain tumor in their daughter's head healed after the pope kissed her on the head. it was inoperable. she was on fox & friends. this is unbelievable. >> i had a dream that she met him and i knew he had to get his hands on her. it was a miracle, him kissing her. >> so this is, you know, would
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be a terminal illness. n now they can barely see it on any of the scans, which is incredib incredible, so we just hope the blessing and miracle of this baby being cured, hopefully, continues. >> amen! >> thank you. >> you know how we always talk about moderate muslims, why don't they call out radical muslims? check out this french guy's blogger only known as chronicle to bass. check out what he's saying. >> basically, what he is saying is time for moderate muslims to step up and put an end to the isis and the radical muslims. >> excellent.
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>> greg's secrets to happiness! the secret to life is making prudent choices, then when you're making a commitment, you stick to it. take a look at this cat here who decid decided it wanted to do something and it didn't give up. was the choice a prudent one? after trying and trying and trying and making a commitment to getting into this ball. kind of like asking someone to thanksgiving dinner and realizing you maybe made a mistake and trying to get out of it and you think, wow, i'm trapped. i need to get out of this. what do i do? by wait, i want to thank you for your nice invitation. >> i was feeling sorry for you. >> if anyone wants to know how steve spent his childhood christmass, there are a lot of great essays in this book.
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you can buy it from amazon right now. lots of your favorite writers, and i have a little essay in there as well about christmas and recommend you get it right now. >> great book. all right, that's it for us. news alert.ort" up next. good evening, i'm bret baier in washington. we begin with breaking news out of washington and paris. the state department is at this moment warning americans about international travel. it has just issued a worldwide travel alert for u.s. citizens. state department officials say current information suggests that isis, al qaeda, boko haram are believed to be planning attacks in various regions. they are urging vigilance in public places or when using public transportation,

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