backlash. remember, you have a much better chance of getting right now on "justice," -- >> it is impossible that these two attackers were radicalized. >> how did this woman breeze right into this country where she helped kill 14 americans? i'll get into that tonight. plus, the fbi says they're investigating a terrorist attack. but the president and "the new york times," they're aiming at a familiar tired target. >> another tragic reminder that here in america, it's way too

easy for dangerous people to get their hands on a gun. >> i've got a few words for them in tonight's "open statement." "justice" starts now. >> thank force being with us tonight. the single deadliest terror attack on u.s. soil since 9/11 has happened. they're here, and it's time, time to stop pussyfooting around. time to stop this politically incorrect nonsense worrying about other people's feelings, pull out all the stops and start fighting for the survival of this country and our way of life. you need to make a plan, how you're going to protect yourself, your family, and your kids. and this is not about politics. it's about being safe. it's about surviving.

the plan -- number one, get a gun. buy one legally. learn how to shoot it. and be primed to use it. and i don't care if you get a long gun, a hand gun, a revolver, a semiautomatic, get whatever you can handle and don't let anyone talk you out of it. the second amendment to the constitution and the united states supreme court confirm your right to have one. number two, it is time to weaponize your local police department. they are the first line of defense in this islamic war of terror against us. if you watched the san bernardino attack unfold, you understand that these jihadists were not going to stop with this one attack. the local police are the ones who took down these islamic terrorists and stopped the further massacre. your local police, like the cops in san bernardino, 300 of them running toward the danger,

openly stating, i'll take the first bullet. these are your defenders. and these remarkable men and women in blue are our heroes who don't think twice about taking a bullet for you. number three, we need to close the boarders. from mexico and from canada. pure and simple. syed farook and tashfeen malik set the precedent by showing the world it can be done on american soil. and there needs to be a halt to the issueance of visas. i don't care what kind of a visa it is, stop. these people do not have a right to be here, period, end of story. and number four, we must stop the refugee resettlement program immediately. and i don't want to hear that it's not who we are. i know who we are. we are a nation founded on the

judeo christian ethics, and i don't need anyone to tell me that i have to take in somebody because they want to change the political demographics of this nation. and need i remind anyone that we don't have the ability to vet them, and even when we do, we don't know what the hell we're doing. example, the tsarnaev brothers, we gave the family political asylum and they thanked us by killing innocent americans. number five, get ready to give up some privacy. the meta data collection that was going on has been stopped. if that program were still in place, the feds could have immediately connected them to their contacts. you've got to arm yourself with knowledge. in order to confront the enemy, you must know who the enemy is. and since our commander in chief won't even call them what they are, islamic terrorists, but

instead prefers to preach what islam is and isn't, and that we shouldn't denigrate all muslims on the actions of a few, while he denigrates the rights of gun owners based on the actions of a few. talk to your neighbors, create organizations to stay current on questionable behavior, not just in your community but around the country. we're told to say something when we see something. but don't say anything against people who act suspiciously who happen to be muslim, because that would be islamaphobic. syed farook's neighbors were afraid to say something when they saw something because they were afraid of being called islamaphobic. when our attorney general says

her greatist fear is the rhetoric against muslims, we've got a problem. and i'm here to tell you, it is part of the islamic terrorist plan. if we are stopped from saying something against muhammad, the muslim religion or muslims in religion, then sharia law is already here. we are living in dangerous times. ladies and gentlemen, the jackals are at the door. and that's my "opening statement." tell me what you think on my facebook page or twitter. and ahead tonight, i'll debate with some of the -- with some of these issues with a staunch gun control advocate. but let's start with the latest on the investigation out of california. fox news reporter adam housley is live in red lalands where th

killers lived. adam? >> reporter: it's all about this ongoing investigation. early on, the fbi told us early on wednesday, maybe within a couple of hours of the murders, they felt this possibly had a terrorist connection. they knew that there was pressure from above coming from washington, but at this level, the idea was well, that's frustrating. let's make sure we ensure there's no more chance for attack and find those connections to those involved. it's evolved where they believe the couple in this home behind me did contact people from overseas, had help from somebody. they believe they had an international money chain that did extend internationally. they do believe that tashfeen, the wife, was possibly connected to a mosque in pakistan, one that's known to be very controversial, and one that's known to have fostered attacks there. we also know that there was a tactical entry conducted last night on a home in riverside,

california, about 35 or 40 minutes from here. an area where the husband once lived. now, we're told that tactical entry was done as a precaution, that there had been no arrests in regards to that or for that matter anything else at this hour. and that it was done to ensure there was nothing there as part of this investigation. so judge, really this investigation does extend around the globe. i'm told thousands of agents are involved. and the one area that a lot of these agents really hammered to us today, especially a couple that we have a lot of trust in from past dealings, they say while the video that showed people going through the apartment, including some media outlets, doing some very interesting things, while that was shocking to a lot of people, the fbi says they are absolutely 1,000% certain that they got everything out of that apartment, and that they really couldn't go back any way once they released it to the homeowner, because at that

point, if anyone went in, it could have been tainted. so they say there was nothing else to see. >> i want to remind viewers that this evening the white house announced that president obama will address the nation tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. we'll get into that and a lot more tonight. we've got a lot of guests with a lot of opinions. we'll start with the ongoing investigation. chad jenkins is a retired u.s. army ranger. the director of the fbi made it clear he doesn't have the resources he needs to investigate terrorism properly. can americans feel safe? >> well, that is a difficult thing that director comey has said. when we look at nearly a thousand individuals right now in the united states that are being investigated as isis

inspired, in all 50 states, you know, that's concerning in itself, and those are who we're already investigating. couple that with syed farook and his wife, -- and domestic terrorism cases here in the u.s. >> all right. the fbi is investigating now. take us inside the case. what are they looking at, what are they doing? >> well, i think the computer forensics, i know that's been damaged. the cell phones, as well as their laptops. but they're doing everything they can, especially electronically, because we know how much isis uses that, as well as other islamic terrorist organizations, to radicalize, to inspire. and they're trying to broaden that spider web as much as they can, to see how far it reaches and where these individuals were able to have associates to help them conduct this attack.

>> as we get more and more into this case, we're hearing about al shabab and the facebook -- or the tweets about al baghdadi and their allegiance to isis. how much do you think this reaches out of this country, given her background? >> well, her background and his travel patterns of going to saudi arabia. i mean, what we need to take a look at is no matter what terrorist organization it is, whether it's isis, whether it's boko haram, aqap, al shabab, this is a narrow sect of sunni islam which all of those organizations adhere to, and they follow the way in which muhammad and his companions, the four caliphs after muhammad, they're all ideallogically in

cahoots with each other. >> let me ask you about the k1 visa. now we're hearing that tashfeen malik's visa may have had an inaccurate home address on it. how much followup is there on this stuff and would it have made a difference if mistakes were caught in the first place? >> you look at the statistics. in 2014 we allowed nearly 36,000 k1 visa holders here in the united states. with that information, i don't know if it's fully vetted. if she had the wrong address, that would be not a shocker. in my previous experience, i know that f1 visa was something that we looked at regularly. once you make entry into the united states, f1 going to a university, you never have to step foot on that campus, and no

one is ever going to come after you to find out. if you look at the immigrant stand point, we're looking at up to 5 million individuals who are overstays on their visas here in the united states. >> thanks for being with us. so who radicalized who here, and what do we know about this murderous couple, and were there any warning signs, and if so, were they missed? joining me now is a muslim scholar and author of "in the land of the invisible woman." thanks for being with us. all right, are we underestimating the role of women in this new jihadist war. >> i think it's sad to say we are. given our fascination with her gender, it reveals that this is a new idea for the united states. so it's very established in the realm of jihadism. we know from research conducted by one of the world's leading scholars, that 30% of

individuals involved in radical groups are female. going back to camel tigers, palestinian suicide bombers, people in the kurdish groups and chechnians have long included women. >> they're supposed to be subservient, that the women can't drive cars. now we have them strapped up with ak-47s. >> what you are describing is the western construct of the muslim woman. i've lived in saudi arabia, and including having to work as a physician there and wear a veil. so i understand that the veil looks like oppression of women and in some cases are, but many times are not. this woman we are discovering was fairly highly educated, which matches mohammed atar, omar sheikh who beheaded daniel pearl, she's nofferent. so we've had 15 or 16 years to

get used to this idea of jihadism in the united states. >> it's interesting, it's our version of what we think makes someone subservient. but going to war in this new terrorist war, and women can play as important a role as men. >> rtainly. women often have. isis has particularly identified them, but even before isis, looking at the research done in israel on palestinian female bombers, there are women who are lured into becoming suicide bombers, women who choose to do that. there are older women who become mother figures to women who are going to perform acts in safe houses. women have many roles. >> you hear about the 70 virgins waiting for the men who become martyrs. who is in it for a woman to leave her child? >> my guess would be, and i have met with children who were groomed to be jihadists in

pakistan. they're indoctrinated to believe they're purifying islam and restoring islam to a fictional glory. this is how islamism works. who knows? maybe this mother desaided she was going to participate in jihad to give a better life to her baby daughter. we don't know. >> when we think about san bernardino, i mean, if someone said something this might not have happened. now i think you're going to see muslims under more scrutiny than ever. i guess my question is, you know, you've been talking, a lot of been people have been talking about almost voices in the wilderness, but is there a burden now on the muslim community to prove to americans that this jihad by these extremist muslims, is not what everyday muslims are about. >> i think we've been bearing that burden since september 11. in your opening statements, which are alarming to me as a muslim who is about to become an

american on friday next week, that we are feeling unduly vilified. you're describing that we close down visa programs. i came here on educational visas. there are thousands of muslims in america who come here for all the right noknonomkno motives. >> you would agree that the mission of the islamic extremist is to destroy us and our way of life. >> i would agree with you. >> and that is to get here through the syrian refugee program. >> judge, i agree with you, and i've made this case in europe and here, that islamists are at war, not with just the united states in particular but secular liberal democracy. i also agree with you that whether the scrutiny of muslims is fair or unfair, i completely understand it. and the pressure now is on

muslims around the country, particularly muslim leaders, to embrace transparency. if i were to be leading a mosque or religious institution, i would say even though it undermines civil liberties, that we have transparency, maybe open surveillance, partner with authorities. we have nothing to hide. let's show it. >> all right. thanks for being with us this evening. so where do the people that want to run this country stand on these issues. one is with them tonight. i'll talk with senator marco rubio about the shooting and what he thinks we need to do to secure the boarders. plus, one on one with a man who believes tough gun laws are the answer for the country. but first, answer tonight's poll question, what can we do to prevent isis inspired attacks on u.s. soil? ooñóokñ.??????ó

tonight, new details coming out in the san bernardino terror probe. as we learn more about the shooters. earlier, i spoke with republican senator and candidate for president marco rubio. take a look. all right, senator rubio, thanks for being with us.

here we are in the wake of the paris attacks, san bernardino just happened this week. we found out that the wife of one of the female jihadists, was someone who put on facebook that she was and pledged her allegiance to isis. yet this week you voted to allow the large-scale continuation of muslim immigration from countries with jihadist movements. why? >> that's not accurate. that's not accurate. there was an amendment you're referring to. the problem with the amendment is it was too broad. it actually ended the entire visa waiver program. so for example, a german tourist on his way to disney world, they wouldn't be able to come. if a business person was coming here to conduct business in new york monday morning, their visa would have been canceled. we don't need to go that far. the amendment went too broad and

that's why few people voted for it. >> and i understand that, but don't we have to take particular steps now, given the fact that isis has said openly we're going to recruit among the syrian refugees, and now we know that this woman had a pakistani connection, he went to saudi arabia, k1 visas for fiances. isn't it time to close the door? >> you talked about the different visas. the primary visa the terrorist try to use are some of these business visas, or the student visas. we've known that for a fact. then another one that poses a growing threat is a refugee threat. she didn't come under any of those. she came under a spouse visa. so we need to be more careful about allowing people in from these countries that are producing terrorism. it isn't that america doesn't want to accept refugees. we cannot fully vet people.

this is an example of that. we could have vetted her for months. nothing would have turned up, because she wasn't radicalized until she got here. >> we don't know that to be the case, senator, with all due respect. you say that she wasn't radicalized until she got here. we don't know that to be the case, do we? >> she wouldn't have wound up in a database. she wasn't in any database. the point is, that's why i argue with people who say well, we're going to vet the refugees. i'm saying it doesn't matter how long or often you vet them, it's not enough, because you can't turn up things on people that have been radicalized. these databases are not sufficient. you won't find a lot of the people coming here to do terrorism. they won't wind up on a database. >> senator, i couldn't agree more. as a prosecutor, you've got to have a database, something to compare. so you say you're very careful and we need to be more careful,

but we don't know how to be more careful. isn't there time for a pause to get all of our ducks in place before people come in that we don't know? >> that's what the bill in the house that passed did. the broader problem that we have with this radical jihadist, they're not just coming from the middle east anymore. the other threat is homegrown violent extremists. this man involved in this attack was a u.s. citizen born in the united states. so that's another risk, the hardest one of all to deal with. because he had no markers of radicalization, apparently, until it was too late. so this requires new measures that will make people uncomfortable, but we don't have a choice. >> let me ask you this, senator. when we look what happened with

the oklahoma individual that sliced the throat of that woman and they said it was workplace violent. apparently his mosque was the mosque where this jihadi discussion was being had, yet nothing has been done. no one would go into a mosque and close it unless they had probable cause. but if we're not infiltrating or profiling, how will we know? >> that's right. but here's the broaders issue. they even refuse to categorize these things as acts of terrorism. because it runs count tore the narrative the president has been putting out. the narrative he's putting out is that isis is contained, terrorism is under control, that we don't have an issue to worry about. it goes back to his claim that bin laden was dead and al qaeda on the run. so this runs counter to the political narrative. >> all right. senator rubio, thanks for being with us on "justice." >> thank you.

next, the fbi is investigating the shooting of the terror attacks. so why are the president and so many others focusing on gun control? i'll hear from both sides of the debate and i may have an opinion of my own. don't go away. attack.

i'm lauren green. now "justice with judge jeanine." get a gun. buy one legally. learn how to shoot it. and be primed to use it. and i don't care if you get a long gun, a hand gun, a revolver, a semiautomatic. get whatever gun you can handle and don't let anyone talk you out of it. the second amendment to the constitution and the united states supreme court confirm your right to have one. i was fired up in tonight's opening statement and i still am. let's get to it. we're going to hear from both sides of the gun debate.

let's hart with mark glace. thanks for joining us tonight. california has the toughest gun control laws in the nation. chicago has the highest murder rate in the nation. how do you explain that? >> in new york city, when you arrest criminals at crime scenes, 95% of the guns you find are from out of state. we have tough laws but neighboring laws have weak laws that get trafficked into the state. >> so you're saying the guns are coming from other states. >> not always, but very often. >> let's talk about the fact that even chicago has system of the lowest prosecutions. it's not just the gun laws, it's when we catch these people with guns, it's incumbent upon the prosecutors to arrest them and

charge them with crimes relating to guns instead of plea bargains. that's part of the problem. but it just appears it's the outlaws that will have the guns, mark. shouldn't we be focused on stopping the terrorists instead of taking guns away from law abiding citizens. people are entitled to a gun. >> i agree. if you are a legal gun owner, and you want to have a permit and carry a gun, you ought to do that. that's not the principal focus of people who do jobs like mine. we're interested in keeping guns away from dangerous people and now home grown terrorists. >> you know, what we hear about, mark, in israel is that there are a lot of stabbings now. individuals, palestinians, whatever, who don't have a gun or access to a gun, stab

somebody in israel. and the only way to stop them is a guy with a gun. the mayor of jerusalem told everybody to start arming. can you understand the need on the part of people who feel they're vulnerable to protect themselves? >> they have been jinxed which that problem somewhat there. but it hasn't here. i don't think absence of guns is going to be a problem here. >> let's talk about how would you control guns? you're agreeing with me, you have a right to have a gun. if you're a legal owner, you can get it. but given the fact that it's the criminals that got them, what do we do? >> the first thing i would do is make the background check system much more airtight. according to a harvard study, about 40% of gun transfers

aren't subject to a back ground check and criminals know that. so they don't go to a dealer and get a background check. they go online, to craigslist or they go to a gun show where private sellers don't have to do a background check. >> but isn't the bigger problem when you look at colorado, aurora, sandy hook, it's these mental misfits getting guns and there is no way, unless we loosen up the hippa laws and find out who is on psychotropic drugs, who's opinion in a mental institution. it's not the guns but the nutjobs carrying the guns. >> you raise a very smart point, the hippa laws around privacy is something we had to deal with when we had to get states to turn in records about people who had been adjudicated mentally ill. but mass shootings aren't the

reality of gun violence in this country. it's the day-to-day killing of 90 people every day with a gun, usually in urban streets, usually using hand guns that is the bulk of the problem here. >> mark, pleasure having you on the show tonit. >> have a good weekend. jessie jane duff was a gunnery sergeant in the united states marine corps and a senior fellow with the london center for policy and research and joins me from washington. thanks for being here. the second amendment, the united states supreme court confirmed the right to have a gun. but respect there some people that shouldn't have a gun? >> of course, but the problem is, we have 300 million guns in this country right now. people are making this a gun problem, when in reality, with 300 million guns and owners out there, we would be having mass shootings every day if guns were the problem. this president is giving the

perception that he wants to have disarmament, he wants to disarm every american while isis is trying to target us. i think this is illogical and that is the perception he is giving. instead, he needs to get ahead of this and talk as you did in your opening remarks. people, learn how to defend yourself, because while you're waiting that 20 minutes for a cop, you need to be able to protect you and all of your neighbors or those around you until police arrive. >> what's interesting, jessie, is that the national average of a -- someone showing up on a 911 call, it's not two or three minutes, it's 11 minutes. during those 11 minutes, that rampage could be over. so it's incumbent upon us to protect ourselves. but if someone has an ar-15, an ak-47, how do you stop them with a hand gun? >> if i have concealed carry and they're not prepared for me to be there and i am trained, i

could strategically place myself and fire upon them. instead, we have 32 children right now without a father or mother from the 14 individuals that were slaughtered in san bernardino. and all of the people who witnessed this were helpless. you're right, if they have an automatic weapon, think still have to pull the trigger individually. they cannot put it on rapid fire. those weapons are not sold to society. so that means which whip out my pistol and pull equally as fast. >> you were a gunnery sergeant in iraq and afghanistan. i mean, you lived among the iraqis and the afghanis. we come from a country where we do everything we can to live as long as we can, and look as good as we can. yet these people can't wait to die and go to wherever they're going. >> let me clarify.

i did not live over there. i supported the efforts from a logistics standpoint, but i did not live among them. >> thank you. >> however, with that said, we were trained, every single day, on what the extremists are like and how they have no consciousness when it comes to battle. first of all, most of them are fighting on meth amphetamines. they will fight without any sense. if you hit them, if you knife them or punch them. when you bring that here to the united states and that mindset of jihadism, it takes more than just a belief system. it's going to take some type of drug induced intoxication for them to go forward with their mass killings, and they will do it. >> all right. not the first time we're hearing about these drugs. thanks for being with us tonight. >> thank you, judge. all right. next, president obama with an interesting take on border security in syria. a little late, but we'll talk about it, next.

president obama now calling on turkey to do a better job sealing its border with syria. that's what i said. would that solve anything? with me is retired colonel dan hansen. you're familiar with this turkey/syria border, having flown over 150 combat missions in the u.s. air force. can you describe that border between turkey and syria? >> well, yeah, judge, i've also been on the ground there. picture colorado and wyoming and new mexico without any roads, and everybody and every town hates each other and they're

shooting. that pretty much sums it up. >> sounds like a western, that's for sure. why is the president calling on turkey to close its border with syria? and i'm not going to get into he won't close our boarders and he's pontificating to another country to close theirs. tell me why. >> i think he's listening to valerie jared again and we know how well that works. he doesn't know the ground or the threat. the list goes on and on. if you're going to give advice to other heads of states and other countries, you ought to have your own act cleaned up first. i think that's going to be their response to this. >> it already is. >> good. you've got an immigration problem, your economy is in the toilet, why would we listen to you? before he starts to pass out advice along those lines, he needs to clean up our act first. >> do we have any leverage over

turkey? >> well, yeah. and i know that the turkey-syria thing is obviously escalating because of what happened with the shootdown of the su-24. but that's a peripheral issue, and i think this president fundamentally has gotten it wrong because he doesn't understand the difference between terrorism and jihadism. that's what is going on there now. we're not talking about a terrorist group and to think of isis in those terms is wrong and misleading. he's getting bad advice there. this has ceased to be an issue about terrorism or jihadism. it's about regional control. >> now, the is the concern that people going through turkey to fight in syria, or is the concern people coming out of syria and going through turkey? >> well, it's both. and then there's the oil problem. they are, in fact, selling oil through the turks.

but the $1 million per day they're making is not what's sustaining isis. the issue that we have, and rightfully so, this is turkey, a nato ally. why are they permitting this to happen? >> you know, the fact that we didn't bomb the oil refineries from the get-go says that we've got some stake over there we're not talking about. but dan, given the fact that we're the great satan and this is a war about our way of life and western civilization, now you've got other countries like britain and france and germany, they're all upping their attacks on isis. why are we still dilly dallying on this thing? why is it that they get it but we don't? >> well, because we don't have what's called a foreign policy, judge. i think everybody who can think in this country realizes this. we have a president who has been reactive to everything, not proactive.

and he's been on the defense. believe me, i'm opposed to fighting in most cases, because i've been there and done that. but when it's time to fight, you fight. unfortunately too late. at least for us in a conventional sense. what you see in russia or what you see in britain and france doing, is what should have been and could have been three or four years ago. and it would have gone a long way to preventing the mess we're in right now. >> we are really in some mess. anyway, lieutenant colonel dan hanson, thanks for being with us this evening. >> my pleasure, judge, as always. thanks. back in a moment, we'll hear your answers to tonight's instant poll. stay with us.

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