what do you think of trump's proposal? a serious policy or a pr stunt? go to facebook.com/the kelly file and let us know. thanks for watching, everybody. i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." see you tomorrow. fox news alert. i'm adam housley in redlands, california where the money trail continues to grow. fox news learned a couple of days ago that there are significant digital and money evidence that was leading investigators to not only overseas, but potentially to a trail here domestically. we have now learned that a deposit of $28,500 was made into a terrorist account. we're not sure if that was a loan or funneled to him. but obviously a very important development as the case continues to go forward. also we've learned that the three bombs left at the inland regional center may have been set there to go off as the first responders arrived. that the hallmark tactic of middle east terrorism. thankfully they did not go off.

fox news has also learned that the shooter syed practiced at a shooting range. i'm adam housley in redlands, california. now back to "hannity." welcome to "hannity." tonight president obama and hillary clinton are choosing political correctness over protecting you, the american people, in this fight against isis. last night while addressing the nation from the oval office, the president did admit that last week's massacre in san bernardino was an act of terrorism, but then he said this. watch. >> we cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between america and islam. that, too, is what groups like isil want. isil does not speak for islam. they are thugs and killers, part of a cult of death. and they account for a tiny

fraction of a more than a billion muslims around the world. it is the responsibility of all americans of every faith to reject discrimination. it is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country. it's our responsibility to reject proposals that muslim americans should somehow be treated differently. because when we travel down that road, we lose. that kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values, plays into the hands of groups like isil. >> hillary clinton, well, she even denies that we're at war with isis. and when it comes to talking about defeating isis, hillary clinton is on the same page as president obama and used the same kind of dangerous, well, denial rhetoric. take a look. >> i think it's important to remind ourselves that islam itself is not our adversary. >> what's the problem with radical islam?

>> well, the problem is that that sounds like we are declaring war against a religion. and that to me is number one wrong. >> even though the qualifier radical is there? >> no, because look. you know enough about religion. you studied it. there are radicals, people who believe all kinds of things in every religion in the world. i don't want to do that because, number one, it doesn't do justice to the vast numbers of muslims in our own country and around the world who are peaceful people. number two, it helps to create this clash of civilizations that is actually a recruiting tool for isis. >> the president and hillary clinton are telling everyone to be careful about what they say while fox news has learned that the bombs the california jihadists left at the inland regional center -- guess what? they were meant to harm the first responders. the fbi also said earlier that the suspects were radicalized for, quote, quite some time. here with reaction, columnist mark steyn has a new musical

album "feline groovy, songs for swinging cats." by the way, mark will be testifying tomorrow before the senate on the issue of climate change. i looked at the president's speech last night. to me it's pretty obvious. this is a cya, this is a uh-oh, i said they were the jv team. i said they were contained. i said they didn't represent an existential threat to americans. i was wrong. let me go back on that and act like i really care but no major change in policy. all words, no action, no change in policy. how do you interpret it? >> right. he basically got that out of the way, then spent three times as much time effectively talking about how racist and bigoted americans are, which is the message you would have got if you were watching this anywhere around the planet, you would have concluded that the president of the united states thought the principal security threat was his own bigoted and racist people. this isn't a small thing that he did last night, sean.

effectively, the president took the same position as c.a.r.e. and the other islamic lobby groups. in a western city, the real victims are the poor muslims because someone might look at them funny on the bus on the way to work the following morning. >> the same thing she was going to go after people who used hate speech last week. she's pulling back on it today. the fbi actually has statistics on this very issue. and 62.4% of victims of hate speech, you know who they are? they're jewish americans. it's only 11.6% that have an anti-muslim bias. so i don't know exactly what they're referring to. they're trying to create a controversy where there is none. >> well, no, the attorney general's words were quite disgraceful and shouldn't require a foreigner coming on your show to point it out, sean. she's supposed to defend the first amendment. this country has free speech. loretta lynch announced that, as far as she's concerned, it is

free speech but. one of the reasons we're in the situation we're in, we have a stupid homeland security slogan that they paid some, you know, marketing group a ton of money to come up with. if you see something, say something. loretta lynch just says, if you see something and you make the mistake of saying something, she'll tie you up in a hate crimes prosecution for the next half decade. when clock boy, ahmed the clock boy brought a ticking object to school and the fellows at the school thought they saw something, they're now being sued for 15 million bucks. so if you see something and you say something, you are a chump because obama says you're a racist and loretta lynch says she's going to bring hate crimes charges and ahmed the clock boy's family are going to sue you for 15 million bucks. >> the president advances his anti-gun narrative, he keeps talking about people on the no-fly list should have the right to buy guns.

well, i hate to tell you, the san bernardino shooters, the tsarnaev brothers, the boston bomber, the fort hood shooter, the chattanooga shooter, no perpetrator of any major attack on american soil was on a no fly list. but there are 72 people on the no fly list that work for obama's department of homeland security. how about he fires them or sends them away? >> yeah, exactly. >> or send them away. what do you think of donald trump's idea? trump set out a press recent today and talked about a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the u.s. until our country's representatives can figure out what's going on. he cited two polls, 25%, the center pour policy agreed violence against americans here in the u.s. is a result of global jihad. americans should have the choice of adopting shariah. this is a clash of cultures. hillary is wrong. right? >> yeah. and what happens is it generally gets worse with each generation.

so you find that older muslims who arrived in the '50s and '60s are often perfectly assimilated. but as we see in this particular case, young muslims who are born here can be more radical. an extraordinary number of them, an extraordinary number of them do want to live under sharia, do believe in death for apostasy, do believe, for example, in female genital mutilation, do believe in honor killings. and the evidence is quite constant, not just in the united states but across the western world. >> shariah is the antithesis of what we as a democratic constitutional republic believe. >> right. >> i have to ask you one more question. the house homeland security chair representative mike mccall actually said the white house not releasing information to the public that it would indicate, this information, that isis plans and there are plans and we know it for isis to infiltrate the refugee population like they

did in paris and the female shooter in this case was able to get in through a fiancee visa, and she gave the wrong address and we didn't even catch it. why should we trust the president in taking in refugees if we know isis is going to infiltrate that population? >> right. who is more insane here? the president who says everyone will be rigorously vetted. i know i wasn't rigorously vetted any more than the crazy mass murdering missive from pakistan was rigorously vetted. that's rubbish. that's nonsense. that doesn't happen. who is more insane, the president who makes promises that everybody knows is rubbish or trump who says that the issue here is this psychosis incubates within islam and that's something worth being able to discuss honestly without the president and his attorney general and the next president in waiting calling us all bigots. >> yeah, all right, mark steyn. always good to have you, sir.

thank you for your insight. when we come back, donald trump says we need to stop all muslims from entering the u.s. until our leaders can figure out what is going on with the threat that isis poses to the homeland. we'll have reaction to that. and later tonight -- >> i just want to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to get your permit. we offer you a free course. and let's teach them a lesson if they ever show up here. >> the president of liberty university, jerry falwell jr., coming under fire for those comments. he's here tonight to respond to some of those critics including hillary clinton. that's straight ahead. santa has a magic snow globe for every family. and this year, look at what he put in our driveway. the lexus december to remember sales event is here. lease the 2016 es350 for $349 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month's payment. see your lexus dealer.

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welcome back to "hannity." after last week's deadly terrorist attack in san

bernardino, americans all across the country are on edge. now, over the weekend 2016 republican front-runner donald trump took a very strong stance against radical islam and explained what he would do if he was elected our next president. take a look. >> should there be profiling? >> i think there could be profiling. >> how would that work? >> if they thought there was something wrong with that group and they saw what was happening, and they didn't want to call the police because they would be profiling, i think that's pretty bad. you have people that have to be tracked. if they're muslims, they're muslims. but we have people that have to be tracked. we have one person we really know of and he's called president obama. until he admits this is a problem, we're never going to solve the problem. but he's only going to be there, fortunately a little more than a year because the problem will get solved once he gets out. i would certainly go after the wives who absolutely knew what was happening. and i guess your definition of what i do, i'm going to leave that to your imagination, but i will tell you, i would be very tough on families.

>> an that's not all. earlier tonight trump said we need to completely put a stop to muslims entering our country until we as a nation figure out what is going on. joining us with reaction, exmuslims of north america from the islamic house of wisdom, and from act for america brigade gabriel alahi is with us. donald trump in his press release saying we need a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the country. it is or is it not true that there's a clash of cultures, meaning that if you grow up under shariah where women can't drive, women must dress a certain way, women are treated like second class citizens, how do you ascertain if that person wants to come here and change their life or if they want to bring those values with them, which are incompatible with our own constitution? >> my answer is if you are looking for entertainment and joke, listen to mr. trump and his talks --

>> imam, excuse me, don't be so insulting to people who disagree with you. sir, sir. >> it's not insulting. >> 14 americans, sir, were killed by radicalized muslims. so that's not a joke. you're saying that we need to figure out who these people are that we're letting into our country, that's to protect americans, sir. >> if we are serious about in our fight against terrorism, sean, i'm sure that we will win this war with the power of unity, power of freedom, power of equality in the eyes of love as the president said, the laws of the lord. the laws of the land. >> you didn't address one part of my question. >> the happiest news for the isis. if you want to make isis happy, then go ahead with this islam ma phobia. >> my question -- look, i'll move on because you don't want to answer my question.

muhammad syed, let me ask you this question. i talked about the incompatibility, somebody who grows up under sharia in some of the strictest islamic countries. how do you ascertain if they want to americanize, modernize, abide by american constitutional laws and assimilate, or if they want to bring their values here and indoctrinate americans. because trump also cited 25% of those polled, center for security policy recent data that violence here in the u.s. is justified as part of global jihad. how do we know who believes that and who doesn't? >> i don't think there's an easy way to distinguish between them. but the problem is the people who would stop the problem are also among the same population. i group up in pakistan. i'm an atheist and i'm fighting for secular values, for american values. and by presuming that all muslims believe in the same thing and have all a the same ideas, you're preventing progress from happening. >> nobody's saying. let me throw it to brigitte, see if she gets it. if you grow up under shariah and

women can't drive a car and can't be seen in public without a male relative like in saudi arabia -- are you coming -- >> who is talking about shariah? >> i'm not talking to you. i'm talking to brigitte. bridge jete, that, to me is a clash of cultures. unless we can ascertain what the motivation is of people that grow up under that culture, that becomes a great difficult in whether or not we're willing to gamble with the lives of american by let manage people who potentially could be radicalized. >> well, we have a great concern in this country right now because radicalized people are killing innocent civilians right now, shooting them at their work stations, shooting them at malls, and we have to be very careful to protect our nation. and those who are raised in strict islamist societies who are taught to hate the infidels and the disbelievers, that islam is superior to all other religions, this is not compatible with the constitution

and it's not compatible with our values. where we in the jude owe christian culture are taught to love, to forgive, to do unto to others what you want others to do unto you. so we are facing a clash of civilization. we have to open our eyes and ears and identify those radicalized people coming into our society. >> let me ask mr. alahi one more question. because donald trump also in his press release cited at the poll that says 51% of those polled agree that muslims in america should have the choice of being governed either by the constitution, our rule of law, or sharia. do you agree that muslims should have the choice in america? >> i would say the muslim community in america is one of the most honorable and educated. >> i just asked you a question -- i am asking you a question. >> it is insulting to question the intention and the action of muslim community. >> really? >> who are contributing to this country.

who is talking about radical islam? if we are fighting it -- let me educate you. because clearly you didn't see what happened. let me finish. our chairman of homeland security committee today said that isis has plans to infiltrate the refugee community. we saw what happened in paris where isis infiltrated the refugee community. explain to every american why we should gamble with their lives if we can't ascertain if a person is a true or honest refugee or if they've aligned themselves with a terror group. why should we let anybody in if we can't ascertain that. >> i'm saying that we are wasting our time dealing with the effects and not the causes. if you are really serious about that, you have to deal with the saudi government and those who are supporting the terrorism and supporting al qaeda and supporting isis. >> why should we -- one specific question. why should america take in syrian refugees when the head of

homeland security in the house is warning us, as if our national director of intelligence and our fbi director. they're warning us that isis will infiltrate and we cannot vet them. why should americans take that risk? answer that question. >> we don't have to. and the syrians do not want to come to this country. but not the way the president was talking last night. he said we have to stop isis and terrorism in iraq and syria through our friends and allies. i'm sorry, mr. president, if saudi arabia and turkey are our allies in fighting terrorism, we are already failed. >> rasheed, we'll give you the last word. >> sean -- >> we should not let any refugees into the country, not hen we have killers already embedded in these refugees who are telling us exactly what they want to do. they want to come here and they want to kill us. people ask me all the time, who should we believe. i say believe those who say they want to kill you because they usually follow through. and i encourage people to go to our website. we just launched a campaign

called open eyes save lives. go toe act for america.org and learn what the signs you need to be aware of in your community so you can start protecting your community. >> thank you all for being with us. appreciate your time. >> coming up tonight on this busy news night on "hannity." >> if more people had conceal carry permits, we could end those muslims before they walked in and kill us. >> liberty university president jerry falwell jr. coming under fire for those comments. he'll be here next in a "hannity" exclusive to respond to his critics. and then later tonight, the president thinks disarming you the american people will somehow keep them safe from terror threats right here in the homeland. we'll check with michelle malkin and julie rucinsky. they are here to debate on "hannity" straight ahead. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends, three jobs... you're like nothing can replace brad. then liberty mutual calls,

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on friday to arm themselves when he said this. >> some of the people in the community center had what i have in my back pocket right now -- is it illegal to pull it out? i don't know. anyway. i'm always thought if more good people had concealed carry permits, then we could end those muslims before they walk in and kill us. i just wanted to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to get your permit. we offer a free course, and let's teach them a lesson if they ever show up here. >> teach them a lesson if they ever show up here. here now in a "hannity"

exclusive is the president of liberty university jerry falwell jr. jerry, good to see you, sir. >> sean, wonderful to be with you. >> you know, i made the same comment last week. i said, i had a guest on, an anti-gun guest. i know this is where the president and hillary want to take it before we even knew the identity, before these two terrorists were even killed they were advancing a gun control narrative, which in my mind without any facts, i think it's very irresponsible. but the president did it, hillary did it and governor o'malley did it. but here's the reality. if you were in the room, if i as a concealed carry permit holder and a marksman since i'm 11, if we were in that room, we might have been able to save lives. what part of this argument don't they seem to get? >> it's common sense to me, sean. i just remember eight years ago just an hour and a half from liberty university the terrible carnage at virginia tech. i remember thinking for years

after that, what if just one of those students, one of those faculty members had had a concealed carry permit. what if they had been able to stop that shooter before he killed 30-plus lives? and i just determined after that incident to make sure that liberty university students were prepared, were able to protect themselves, to have the chance to protect themselves. it's not all students. it's only age 21 and older, faculty and staff. we don't have a bunch of 18, 19, 20-year-old students running around with handguns, but it's a policy that's been in place here for several years and it's worked well for us. and i'm proud that liberty was one of the only schools to they can that position initially. now dozens have followed suit. i think it's common sense. it's where all universities need to go. >> by the way, i would argue you are your father's son being outspoken. but i am a little surprised at the response. let's go to hillary clinton who directed these comments to you

and i want to give you a chance to respond. >> mr. falwell urged his students at liberty university to actually arm themselves, get concealed carry permits. your response. >> he also went on -- don't forget he said this, george. he said that way we can take out the muslims. he said that, okay? this is the kind of deplorable not only hateful response to a legitimate security issue, but it is giving aid and comfort to isis and other jihadists. >> she obviously wanted to take your comments out of context. you were talking about radical islamists. go ahead. >> i'll tell you what's deplorable is that hillary's a liar. that's not what i said. i went on to say those muslims before they can come in and kill us referring specifically, if you listen to the first part of my comment, to the community center incident in california, and if you go back even further in my comments, i started off by talking about how touched my wife and i were watching fox

news the night before or the night after the -- the night before i was in convocation on thursday night, and mike madden, the first responder, brought my wife to tears. he was just so sincere. and he talked about how deeply affected he was walking in and seeing that carnage and seeing all the -- smelling the gunpowder. and we just decided right then we were going to contact his office, which we did that night. and i told all the students how we were trying to find out if he had college-aged young people. we wanted to offer them scholarships to come to liberty. same thing with the families of the victims. we now have all the phone numbers and addresses of every single victim who has children and we're contacting every one of them to offer assistance to their children so that no matter what it takes for them to get a college education, they can do it here. that was the context of my remarks. then i went on to say that i just could not believe that our president's answer to something

so horrific is that more gun control. that just defies common sense, it defies logic. i went on to talk about i have my permit. >> you were offering scholarships to the victims and their children and their family and stepping up. i watched that police officer. i had the same reaction. i wanted to cry like your wife. it was so horrible. he saw the carnage and the blood and all these people shot and many of them killed. i want to put up on the screen two things from the american enterprise institute. i think they say a lot about gun control. number one, the gun ownership rate from '94 to 2014 versus the homicide rate. gun ownership has gone up considerably. homicides have gone done, gun homicides. and they have put out another chart. the number of firearms versus gun homicide rate. as you can see the homicide rate has gone down and the number of privately owned firearms have gone up. so obviously, that's the case. and i bring it back to a very simple point.

god forbid, i've been at liberty university, i've spoken at your convocation. if anyone came in there, i would want to know there are people to innocent children, before they killed professors. so to me it's common sense. i'm surprised that she would take your words out of context like that. >> well, she really did. and sadly, at most universities, the students would have no option. they would not be allowed to protect themselves, they'd not be allowed to have a permit. i want to change that in america. i happened to be in a gun store today with my two sons. we were buying christmas gifts. the gun owner told me how he can't keep any guns in his store in the last week, the gun cases are empty. he said you better buy -- he might have been a good salesman. but you better buy one of those right now because there won't be one here tomorrow. so i did. >> let me ask you one political question. liberty's playing a huge role in this election. ted cruz made his announcement

there. you've had many of the candidate speaking at liberty. even bernie sanders went there. you have a debate scheduled for february at liberty. so liberty is playing a very big part in this election cycle, which is great for the university. where do you stand on the political front? >> i've got three favorites at this point, trump, cruz and carson, not necessarily in that order. but those are my three favorites at this point. >> do you see yourself maybe endorsing? >> i think trump -- i think trump reminds me so much of my father. he says exactly what he thinks, no matter what anybody cares. carson is so intelligent and so level headed and cruz is just -- i love ted cruz. so i'm still undecided but those are definitely my three favorites. >> all right. when you're ready to endorse, we'd love to have you back. jerry falwell jr. good too see you. thank you, you're right on with that message. coming up next, the president continues his demand for more gun control clearly not understanding this is terrorism.

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this is a fox news alert. i'm kelly wright. the man who purchased two rifles used in the shooting massacre in san bernardino, california is now talking to authorities. agents tell fox news they're leaning towards charging him. at this point they don't know if he modified the weapons to make them automated, or if the terror suspects or a third party did. and the fbi says the married couple behind last week's mass shooting in san bernardino, california have been, quote, radicalized for quite some time. syed farouk and his wife had also been to target practice at area gun ranges. the last time just days before the terror attack that killed 14

people. investigators are also looking into the couple's money trail. one source close to the investigation tells fox news that they're eyeing a suspicious deposit of more than $28,000 into farouk's bank account. i'm kelly wright. now back to "hannity." welcome back to "hannity." we just heard from the president of liberty university, jerry falwell jr., defending his controversial remarks to students about gun control. here now with reaction the author of "sold out." how high-tech billionaires, bipartisan beltway crap weasels are screwing america's brightest and best. michelle malkin and democratic strategist fox contributor julie roginsky is with us. a simple question. i know the president wants to divert attention. this is radical islamists in our homeland. he still wants syrian refugees. our law enforcement and intelligence people say we can't vet them. but here's the question. if you're in the room and i'm in the room with you and bo dietl is in the room and jerry falwell jr. is in the room and we're all

armed because we all have carry permits, do you want us there or do you not want us there if somebody is smooting up a roomful of people? >> the problem is if you're shooting up a roomful of people, and they're shooting up at a room full of people, where am i in the crossfire here? how well train ready you? are you a police officer? no. >> i'm a marksman. >> but not everybody is. >> well, i'm telling you, i've taught gun safety and i have been proficient in the use of firearms since i'm 11 years old. i'm a lot older than that now. i have carry permits in new york, rhode island, california, alabama and georgia. i've carried a gun more in my adult life more than i haven't carried one. so my question is, do you want me in that room? >> well, here is my question. do you want me in that room? i have no idea how to shoot anybody. that's the difficulty, sean. >> michelle, it's not that difficult. i know, michelle, you would want me in the room. when they drop their clip and are reloading, you would want me to stand up and take them, wouldn't you? >> no question about it.

of course, i'd want every grown woman in that room to also be trained and armed, and i'm going to make sure that my own daughter who is now a teenager understands that, of course, being armed in self-defense is the great equalizer whether you're talking about defending against a rapist or a jihadist. this whole brouhaha over mr. falwell's very commonsense and rational remarks just shows you that so much of the culture, the political culture and the media is far more comfortable in demonizing law abiding christians who espouse self-defense, armed self-defense than they are in exposing and calling out jihadists who want to kill us by any mean necessary! >> don't you think it's dishonest -- for example, if i ask people who are pro gun control, okay, what are you going to do if a drug-fueled raging criminal comes into your house with a gun, what are you going to do to protect your family? they never want to answer the question. >> no, they don't.

>> i like julie. but i think, julie, it would be foolish not to want me, bo dietl and jerry falwell in that room because we can stop the killing of innocent men, women and children. so the reality is this is not the problem. it's an obfuscation by the president and others. michelle? >> no question about it. this is not about gun control. the fight against jihad is not about gun control. it's about border control. it's about jihad control. and we play into the hands of the entire secular progressive left and the gun grabbers by focusing on this rather than the fact that you've got hillary clinton out there who has far tougher words than jerry falwell jr. than she does for the jihadists that were responsible for benghazi who are still on the loose. far tougher words for jerry falwell and christians who are armed in self-defense than she has for all of the jihad-enabling front groups out there from hamas -- hello? let's talk about the real problem here.

>> hillary says, oh, i can't say radical islam. i don't want to offend people. we're not at war with isis. do you believe that crap? do you believe that nonsense? >> well, i think we are at war with isis. i think isis is at war with us. i think i agree with her that i don't want the say radical islam. >> why not? >> i don't think you should take an entire religion and tarnish it. >> it's not an entire religion. it's a distinction between radicals that have hijacked a religion and are out there killing in the name of allah. >> how would you feel if some muslim, king abdullah or somebody else, some moderate muslims came and said the guy who shot up planned parenthood was a radical christian? >> i would say you're ill informed. that was not the case in that point. >> wrong. >> i would say you're ill informed. >> of course it was. the guy said that -- the point is this, you would be offended as a christian. >> no, actually, i don't think there's anyone that's been more outspoken about the corruption in the catholic church and was raised a catholic. i don't care who says it because it's the truth.

i can handle the truth, michelle. i'm not that weak minded. >> and i would advise julie to look up the word dimitude. it's the biggest problem that america's faced since 9/11, 2001 and well before that because the jihadists have been at war with us for eternity. >> thank you both for being with us. we're out of time. coming up, you'll meet the wife of nicholas thalasinos. her was one of those killed. that and more as "hannity" continues. it's a van that speaks volumes. it's spacious and flexible. it can carry heavy loads and go the distance. and for small business owners, it will make a strong first impression. every insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company

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welcome back to "hannity." joining us now is jennifer thalasinos. now her husband nicholas was one of the victims of the deadly terrorist attack in california. jennifer, our s are with you, y husband, your family. i can't imagine how difficult this is for you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, mr. hannity. >> i know this is very tough for you. there had been some reports that your husband and syed farook had discussed issues involving radical islam and israel. what do you know about that? >> i know my husband discussed religion and israel with a lot of different people including syed. and i'm not sure exactly what kind of conversations took place, but as far as i know,

they were not huge, heated discussions. if they were, my husband didn't say anything. but as far as i know, up until when this happened, there hadn't been any signs that sayed had become radicalized or anything like that. >> he did know syed. he did have discussions with him. i'm sure he knew that he was fairly radical in his views if not radicalized? i. >> right. my husband knew that syed was a very devout muslim. i know they had discussions about israel in particular and about whether islam was a religion of peace or not. but my husband wasn't the type to want to like instigate a fight. he would have just had discussions about it. but i know that they completely disagreed on israel. >> do you believe that maybe

your husband was the person targeted by these two people? >> yes, i do. because of my husband being a messianic jew and because of the discussions, i think the shooter was intending on getting my husband. i also think some of the other people that were killed were also intended targets because of their religious views. and because of discussions that they had had with the shooter as well. >> and your husband dressed as a messianic jew. he wore a yarmulke, for example, did he have any other identifying clothing? >> he didn't wear a yarmulke, but he wore the tassels on the belt loops. >> okay. got you. >> and he also wore, yes, we also wore the tie clip with the star of david on it. so it was pretty obvious that he

was of some jewish faith. and like i said, we were messianic jews. >> there was a woman on facebook and wrote you a note and that said my name is moreno. i work at this particular place where your husband worked. i had not met your husband before. i only worked there seven months and worked in different offices. i need to tell you, he played a vital role in my survival. i laid on the floor next to your husband when he had already been injured, and his last words to me were to get under the table, which i did. i wanted you to know how great he was up to the last moment of his life. i am so sorry for your loss. my most sincere condolences. please let me know if you need anything and god bless you. i got to imagine even through all the pain you're living through now that that gives you some degree of comfort that your husband was reaching out to help others. >> that gave me a lot of comfort. i had said from the beginning when i found out that i knew my husband, the type of person he was. he would be trying to help other people. and the fact that he was able to

help this woman, i'm just -- i knew that was the type of person my husband was. and i'm just grateful that somebody was there with him in his last moments. >> i hate to even bring this up, but i want to give you an opportunity to respond. there has been some horrible headlines. and one of the new york tabloids called the daily news attacking your husband. and the headline was, for example, linda stasi is the columnist. and it said san bernardino killers were radical isis loving monsters, but one of their victims was just as bigoted. and as part of her column, she says thalasinos was an anti-government, anti-islam pro nra rapidly anti-planned parenthood kind of guy. now to your knowledge, has your husband ever gone into a room of people and randomly started shooting anybody? >> of course not. my husband was one of the gentlest people you would have

ever met. he was friendly with everybody. yes, he did have his opinions. he was very conservative. he was very pro-israel. he was pro-life. he was outspoken about that. but he never sought out arguments with people. he was always kind to everybody. and everybody i know that knew him, and i've had people coming up from facebook and other places that they knew him, people on facebook that knew him in person that have been talking to me. and they have nothing but good things to say about him. >> you believe he was targeted in this attack because of these discussions that he had with the terrorist farook, syed farook. has law enforcement come to you and asked you anything about this? anything about these discussions? >> they haven't yet. but i did hear on one of the press conferences they had today that the fbi was going to be probably going around to talk to

the victims' families. so i have a feeling if that's true, they will definitely be coming around to talk to me. i know this is a painful time for you and your family. please know that our audience, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your husband. and this should not happen on american soil. we need to keep america safer. thank you for being with us. and all the best to you. >> thank you so much. >> all right. and coming up, our ask sean segment is next. and we need your help with an important question of the day. straight ahead.

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time for our question of the day. do you think this president understands the nature of the radical islamic threat? no. unfortunately, i do not believe that. i think that was a cya a speech last night and a political speech. go to facebook.com/sean hannity, let us know what you think. time for our ask sean segment. one viewer asking how will these liberals keep guns from coming

across the border when they can't even keep people and drugs out. short answer? they can't and they won't. and we'll still have these crimes. and the only people that will be disarmed are law-abiding citizens like us. good question. that's all the time we have left this evening. as always a, thank you for being with us. we'll see you back here tomorrow. this is a fox news alert. well, here they are. these are the faces of evil. this photo showing the evil husband and wife terror capitol hill killers going through customs at chicago's o'hare airport. this picture was taken july 2014 and this was the first moment tashfeen malik set foot on our american soil. and nearly a year and a half later those two savages carrying out the single deadliest terror attack right here in the united states. deadliest since 9/11 murdering, slaughtering 14 innocent people. were saeed's father and new clues into the couple killer's radicalization. donald trump now calling for the total and complete shutdown of