martha: it's tuesday and i feel like we have had two weeks' worth of news. have a great day. bill: i'll see you at noon. martha: you are "outnumbered"? bye, everybody. jon: new details about the husband and wife killers behind the san bernardino master good morning, welcome to "happening now." jenna: the f.b.i. says the terrorists were radicalized for quite some time and practiced at a shooting range days before the attack. they say it's not clear when they started embracing the

radical terror group. jonathan hunt is at the shooters' home in redlands, california. reporter: the money trail is proving one of the most fewful lines of -- one of the most fruitful lines of information. syed farook deposited $28,500 two weeks before the shooting. one week later he withdrew $10,000. the f.b.i. is looking at whether it went to a man call enrique marquez. he gave two assault rifles to farook and malik. was that $10,000 payment for those rifles?

the weapons were used by farook and malik as they practiced at some nearby gun ranges. here is a worker from one of those ranges. >> he presented what appeared to be a valid i.d. came in and acted the way normal people act. come in and use the range. >> this affected the world. it affected our range, it affected everybody. reporter: the f.b.i. confirms farook and malik were in fact radicalized and in the word of the f.b.i. were radicalized for some time. what does that mean? they don't know for sure and we don't know for sure. but it seem it was sometime before they entered the united states. we have that photograph them coming through customs at chicago's o'hare airport. it's believed they were radical eye boulevard they landed on

u.s. soil. now they are looking at the support group, they say at the moment they don't have any direct evidence there was support, operational guidance for this attack from outside the united states. they are looking closely at the family including farook's mother who lived with them in this house behind me, this small apartment. as you now know, the f.b.i. said there were components for up to 19 pipe bombs in this house and all the other weapons in the house and garage. is it possible she had no idea what her son and his wife were up to given they lived in this relatively small space and had that kind of weaponry? jon: the san bernardino terror attack plays a role in the latest controversy on the campaign trail. donald trump getting roundly

criticized by democrats and republicans alike. >> donald trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representees can figure out what the hell is going on. [cheers and applause] we have no choice. we have no choice. jon: joining us now, joe trippi, former john dean campaign manager. and david, you heard the cheers there from that crowd in south carolina. what do you think of donald trump's proposal? >> there is no credible percentage or a majority that would agree with that proposal. where there is overwhelming support not just amongst

republicans but also democrats and independent is knowing who is coming into this country and protecting our borders. as national security becomes more and more of an issue in this campaign it becomes more after problem for hillary clinton. republicans are laying out a clear, we are going to fight terrorists and win this war. where what did we hear just sunday when she did the sunday talk shows? she gave you more of the policies we have had under president obama which are causing voters great concern. and why they want to see a different direct when it comes to national security. jon: donald trump said a lot of things that would have made other campaigns implode. but it doesn't seem to affect him. will this in any way hurt his campaign? >> i don't think it's going hurt his campaign. it's hurting the republican brand.

that's why so many of the other candidate except for cruz have pretty vigorously denounced it. he does these things, they get a ton of attention, they are talking about him again. and his supporters which are see youable, support him, 37% in some polls. they are attracted to this message. they are attracted to his message about building the big wall. now it's keep all muslims out of the country. that's a problem later on for the republican party who all of these candidate pledge that they would support the nominee of whoever won the nomination. will they still support donald trump? this will all come back at some point and hurt the republican party. i disagree that hillary clinton is in trouble on this. that's a debate we'll have and certainly the republicans will raise issues about her in november.

but right now trump is not hurting his campaign. he is hurting the republican party. jon: is donald trump hurting the republican brand? >> under joe's analogy if donald trump doesn't get the nomination does that mean the idea he tam pained for, republicans soundly rejected, voters say they are not for that. there is no evidence this has long-term while it grabs headlines today there will be is no evidence or beliefs this will long term hurt the party. the issues our nominee talk about will define the party as we go into the general elect. the question is do you want to continue on the path we have had the past seven years. that's what hillary clinton is offering. or do you want to go a different path. this is why ted cruz and marco rubio have so much credit going into ohio and new hampshire.

they are talking about how they are going to defend this country. is donald trump going to be the nominee? we don't know that today. but what we do know i this is increasingly become a national security elect and democrats don't want that because they aren't in line with american voters on it. jon: just about every one of his competitors' cam pains said he will not be the nominee. donald trump is still on top in iowa in the cnn poll. he has a double digit lead over senator ted cruz. but in the monmoth poll, cruz takes the lead. at this time of year the polls don't mean a great deal.

>> all polls are driven by how the sample is created. the monmouth poll looks for the minnesota part at past gop voters, people who voted in past primaries or caucasus. the cnn poll lets almost everybody through the screen, people who say they are going to vote in this caucus. >> you like those numbers better? >> my experience in iowa. you have got to get out there there in february on a cold night. i would put more strength in the monmouth polls. but if they are right, it means trump is attracting a lot of people who are not normal voters in the republican primary. >> we don't have national primaries. elections are decided by who

turns out and votes. an interesting analysis by some iowa pro fessors looked at the iowa caucus voters, people who have voted since 2006 in a republican election. and in that scenario right now ted cruz is winning iowa. so you can have a poll to say whatever you want to justify the position you are trying to make. right now it's only matters who is going to come out in the snow in iowa in february and who is going to turn out in new hampshire. then we'll know. then this race becomes completely different. it's not just about media polls. it's about actual results of elections. >> that large field might be smaller after those two states vote. david avilla and joe trippi, thank you both. jenna: we are awaiting a pentagon briefing.

iran carrying out a missile ballistic missile test in violation of the agreement. reporter: for the second time since october iran carried out another medium range ballistic missile test in go fines of the u.n. security council. the test was held near chabahar. the launch took place from a known missile test place. the missile has a range of 1,200 miles and it's capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. this video drew strong criticism from the u.s., france and britain. president obama promised the u.s. would breast sanctions committee but said it would not derail the nuclear deal signed in july. >> we'll review as we have in

the past any violations of u.n. resolutions and deal with them much as we have in the past. reporter: that was the president in october. the u.n. passed a resolution after six world powers signed that resolution. it calls on iran to refrain from missile tests for six years. the council is debating how to respond to iran's test in october. the state department said they are aware of the new test on november 21. jon: testimony is winding down and the jury could be deliberating soon in the case of a teenager accused of brutally raping and murdering his teacher. isis in america. what we are learning about

american citizens drawn to a radical and sometimes killer ideology. they could be your neighbors. can you do anything to stop them? >> we are not doing enough on the front end. if you have a loved one you are concerned about going down the wrong path, your only option is to do nothing and a watch this train wreck happeninger. >> alert the f.b.i. and talk to your loved ones through a prison bar the next 20 years. jon: do you support sending troops to iraq and syria. go to live chat and join the conversation. @oyu0x?hy@x@8p

jenna: the f.b.i. continues to look into the background of the two terrorists related to isis. there have been dozen of busts

in the past few years and the suspects are a diverse crowd. >> they are old, young, rich, poor, they tend to be younger. but in one third of the cases they were 21 years or younger. jenna: the deputy director extremism at george washington university. as we look through the events of the last week through our own lenses, you have a unique perspective. you just published this report giving us an idea of isis in america. based on the profile of the terrorists as we not, what strikes you most about what we learned so far? >> the thing that strikes me the most is the in-person relationship. the group dynamic. we talk about social media. at end of the day it's important

to have someone to reinforce your beliefs. it's part of an echo chamber with themselves where they are agreeing each other and they are able to reinforce that belief. jenna: was it surprising there was a partnership between a husband and wife? >> we have seen a case. the white supremacists, there is routinely husband and wife teams that do these times of things. jenna: based on the arrests the fast year or so. it also probably didn't surprise to you find out one of the terrorists was an american citizen. >> theast majority were u.s. citizens. this is a home-grown problem when we talk about isis. jenna: when we talk about attacking this problem, what are you recommending to create a strategy to combat it. >> from the homeland aspect we

need to do more on prevention. there is a role for the federal government and muslim-american community to bring people back into the fold. and the government can provide legal assurances. these are low-hanging fruit that we can wrap our hands around and make a big dent into the problem. jenna: we played sound from you in a previous interview talking about a middle grounds. people have concerns about their neighbors and they follow the see something, say something mantra for their family, there is somewhere else to go beside prison. talk to us about that and why you think that would be important now. >> our european partners have done this the last few years and they had to because the numbers are so as much more over there. i talked to a number of individuals that joined terrorist groups and they are

essentially watching a train wreck in slow motion. they didn't know what to do, and they didn't want to call the f.b.i. on this. we need to set up programs with religious leaders and trusted leaders and mentors saying how do we get them back in the fold. jenna: you are seeped in the data. you talked to the families. how big is this problem we are confronting? >> we need to put this in contact. 71 cases in the legal system is small in the general patch laying. the f.b.i. says they have 900 investigations and they are stretched thin. the problem is you don't know when someone is going to cross that legal threshold. soft it's a hard problem to wrap your head around. jon: from the battlefield to the california suburbs, the trauma doctor born in iran puts his war

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she fell 130 feet to her death. prosecutors save he wanted to collect nearly $5 million in life insurance. a man accused of killing three people at a planned parenthood clinic robert dear asked as least one person for directions. there is mounting evidence he was concerned about abortion and targeted the clinic. jenna: the terrorist attack in san bernardino, an emergency room doctor is no stranger to combat zones. he continues to work with the local s.w.a.t. team there. he's an immigrant native of iran who fought in that nation's long and bloody war with iraq before having to flee his native country. >> i'm here because i came for

democracy. it's sad to see that become miles across the world and see something like that happen here, a country that respects everybody and gives people opportunities. jenna: dr. neeki joins us now. it's nice to have you have on the program. >> good morning, it's a pleasure. jenna: we heard what you said at the news conference. how and why did you first come to america? >> you know, i was born in iran. i was a political dissident. the trouble started ever since the revolution happened in 1979. mostly opinions and defending human rights.

and ideas. i also served two years in an infantry division in the iran-iraq war. i served that country and i end up again in one more imprisonment after that anded to leave to save my life. i would probably lose my life if i was to stay there. it's an incredible story. there is so much more we won't be able to touch on. how did that experience serving your country and also having to go through the challenges to get to if the united states impact how you were able to help fellow citizens in need on the day of the terrorist attack. >> i want to portray my condolences to the families and heros that paid the ultimate price for securing pour freedom

in this country. those experiences actually i went through ptsd. i can understand veterans are not coming into the emergency room for help. i can understand the society going through this similar pattern and experience. those experiences build my personality to really be prepared for this disastrous scenario that we saw here. it's surreal. jenna: a lot of us when we think about first responders we think about them showing us scene ambulance with their gear and uniform. you drove yourself to the scene and had your own tactical gear. can you explain the program you are part of and how you become a part of that? >> there are several programs. i am usually part of the s.w.a.t. team. we do have a rally point. and i do drive my own personal car and i have the gear and i

respond to the rally point, then we'll have a debriefing then a planning and i'll go with them to the point. in this scenario we have an active shooter call first, then a squad call. there wasn't any time for rally. they called for a rally point then they diverted us to the scene. so i basically took my own gear, my own car. it was a little bit difficult it was very challenging and this is one of those issue ofs we'll resolve if it happens in the future i would be ready for it. but usually we have active shooter training around here thanks to our inland county emergency authorities. we have planning for that. i'm used to this scenario.

jenna: resources are slim and regulations are tough to get training you have to have a team do what you did, what do you think of our preparation for terror attacks like the ones we saw. >> terrible. right now you are relying on volunteer doctors to show up there. also put their lives on line. that's an issue. because of my past experience, i bring all those experiences and also my medical training. it gives me sort of forced better detail understanding of what's going on. i try to portray to my fellow law enforcement and ems providers. i'm in love with the ems community in this area. we should spend some federal money and be prepared for it. we are prepared for disasters in california.

but we never talk about terrorism. this is the time. even the president, i think this is a domestic terrorism. and there is a possibility. jenna: i want to ask you a quick final question. i know you were born into a muslim family and you came to this country to pursue your own version of the american dream. yesterday you said it's time to show isis what we are made of. we are all look for solutions about how to combat terror. what do yo on the list? >> number one is bringing america together, bringing the community together. i was born in it but i really had suffered from fundamentalist religious idea. i was tortured in prison by these people. they are actually fanatics and made up their mind. for those americans who actually -- for those of us

thatism grade here you have to choose a side. when you become a citizen show loyalty to the community. it's not an issue of religion. it's an issue of protecting the constitution and individual freedom. we are threatened by isis and the radical ideas coming in. jenna: it's nice to have your perspective on the program and we look forward to speaking to you much more in the future. thank you for your work during the terror attacks. >> it was a humbling experience.

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that is the problem with the small attack groups with the small groups is they are hard to detect even if there is a puppet master on the other end radicalizing the individuals. they are hard to detect. we have to increase the surveillance capability at home. >> jon: how do we do that? >> we have a larger umbrella issue but having all of the groups not talking and not exchanging personal is a shortcoming. we have the fbi surveillance teams that are short-handed. we focus on meta data and the bigger picture of pooling americans that have nothing to do with terrorism that we lost our eye on the target which is the old fashion investigation

work. the ability of the fbi and federal law enforcement to watch people over a period of days to see they are not engaging in behavior that could put american lives in danger. >> jon: i thought the department of homeland security was created to end the alphabet soup of agencies and the stove piping of information. >> you and 300 million americans thought the same thing but that is not what happened. what the dhs did instead of grouping agencies together with similar missions and getting rid of the silos and the non-operability it did the opposite and layered a bigger problem on top. the darkest days were the transfer from the department of treasure into the new dhs division. the new dhs creation was a

disaster having the opposite effe effect it intended. >> jon: what is worrying you the most a week after the san bernardino attacks? >> there are other groups out there and do we have the capability to detect them? in the secret service we used to say it is like drinking from a fire hose. hundreds of tips are coming in and 99% of them nothing comes of it. but whether it is 1% and 10,000 tips, you do the math, and we could be having a number of groups trying to replicate this. >> jon: it was the largest since the 9/11 attacks and second largest to 9/11 which took

planning, infrastructure and money. this one didn't. >> two things the american citizens need to be concerned about. number one the small tactic attacks. not a lot of contacts, financial actions or communication. the training requirement is minimal. to go to the range and fire off a few rounds isn't eliciting a lot of suspicion. but to learn how to fly a plane over a period of month the chances of getting caught are greater. >> jon: dan, thank you for your expertise. >> the impact the san bernardino attack is having on gun sales. we will take a look in a live report next.

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test test test test >> our country cannot be the victim of attacks by people that believe only in jihad. they don't want our system. they don't want our system. they have no sense of reason or respect for human life. they have no respect for human life. >> donald trump is not backing down from his proposal to ban muslims from entering the state. rand paul reacting now. senator, how do you see donald trump's comments? >> you know, i don't think we need a religious test. but i think we need a pause on immigration from the middle east. i introduced legislation based

on evidence of terrorism activities and terrorism training and risk of immigration. so i would pause immigration from about 34 countries which some are non-islamic but they have a high risk of terrorism. we have a failed immigration system. we have 11 million people here illegally and 40% came legally but overstayed their visa. we need to know who is here and if they will attack us or not. most of the evidence of terrorism in the country has had something to do with immigration. the 19 highjackers came through the legal system. some were student visas, some we were visitors. absolutely we need to push pause and have a moratorium until we know whether or not we can look

at our immigration system and make sure we are not letting people come to attack us. >> you spoke about your idea here which is modeled loosely after the homeland security 9/11 program. you were put here and watched closely by the department of homeland for ten years. they did this until critics of the plan thought it was profiling and that is one of the reason the programs was done away with. how is your program different? if folks are criticizing donald trump for profiling do you think you are walking a thin line? >> i think it is crazy to have open borders. this is a big disagreement i have with marco rubio. we have to defend the borders and it has to be based on a risk assessment. it is not a religious test.

it is based on a risk assessment. we know where terrorism is coming from, who is promoting it, who has a significant population of people that would want to kill us if they get here. we need to be protected from people coming from europe as well. our countries that are friends even there needs to be a process having them come from global entry which is a background check like frequent flier program. we are crazy spending the money to defend the country from terrorism and having an open border. donald trump is wrong on the religious test but right we need to defend ourselves. >> we know where the terrorism is coming from. it is coming from many times muslim countries. some of the reaction we are seeing the donald trump's comments are because there is a feeling and we are getting this from the viewers and i am generalizing as well but we are

not having a direct conversation about the problem at hand and because we are not speaking directly about it we cannot solve it. in your mind, what do you think is the connection between the muslim religion and the terrorism? >> if you cannot name our enemy you will never defeat your enemy. it is an aberration. i do believe most people who believe in the islamic faith are not violent and that is a minority. but part of defeating this has to be mainstream, civilized islam needs to rise up and say over and over again their religion is a peaceful one. we need to hear louder voices from the islamic community. we yeed to ac -- we need to acknowledge we have a risk of terrorist comes into the country from those who are radicalized and islamic. but i don't think we should have a blanket religious test.

but a test saying we need more scrutiny for people coming from countries with high amounts of terrorist in them. >> jon: from rags to riches. how one lottery ticket turns around a man's life. and oscar pistorius is granted bail while he is awaiting sentencing. details on what the judge ruled in court today. in court today. innovative sonicare technology with up to 27% more brush movements versus oral b. get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed. innovation and you. philips sonicare save when you buy the most loved rechargeable toothbrush brand in america.

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go long. >> let's check out "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. >> donald trump under fire for his call to ban all muslims from entering the united states. his rivals are slamming that proposal but trump supporters

are giving him a standing ovation. will it hurt or help him? a top intel member said a terrorist has tried to get into the system. and a yale teacher suspending her course saying it is too hard to teach in the pc climate? all of that plus our one lucky guy at the top of the hour. >> continuing fall out from the centers on gun sales. legal sales rising significantly. william is in los angeles with more. >> jenna, americans are in a bind. more than 21 million guns this year. that is a record. 57,000 a day fueled by the president and incidents like san bernardino and colorado springs. gun sales hit 185,000 on black

friday alone which was a record. americans are not putting things in the closet waiting for a burglary. the sale of firearms and ammunition has doubled since the president has been elected going from 10 million a year under george bush to almost 20 million a year under obama. >> this political party is causing the increase. we get a lot of new people. not everybody coming in has been a gun owner their whole life. we do a lot of first time buyers and things like that. people are kind of like, okay, i am a little worried. >> the president and democrats see the incidents as the change in law. the violent crime is the lowest in decades. gun control groups don't make that connection. >> we cannot even prevent

terrorist in this country from buying guns legally. what does that say about the resolve of our nation? >> 34 states, that is about double ten years ago, allow americans to openly carry a firearm without a permit or license. in spokeane, the police are so overwhelmed by concealed carry applications they have stopped taking applications. >> jon: next hour of "happening now," a police chase ends in a deadly shootout after an armed man carjacks three vehicles and officers try to take him down. heavy flooding turns streets into the rivers stranding cars and forcing evacuations in oregon and the rain will not stop for some time.

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grizzly bear and conspiring to cover up the violation. the incident happened last may, when investigators said she shot the bear without a state bear tag. she signed and backdate ad big game tag to make it look like she had it before shooting the grizzly. jenna: not supposed to do that. a lottery ticket changes as life. the 64-year-old man struggled with alcoholism, lost his business, got divorced. down on his luck, homeless for six years. everything changed drastically after buy a $10 lottery ticket and winning $500,000. he spent one night sleeping on the floor of the church before director drove him to the lottery office. that was probably a pretty good day. he plans to buy a plane ticket and visit his daughter. >> hope he stays sober. good for him. we'll see you, not in an hour. we'll be back here tomorrow. jenna and i are off on secret project.

jenna: secret project we hope to get to show you in short order. see you back here tomorrow. "happening now" at 1:00 p.m. as well. "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ andrea: this is it "outnumbered" i'm andrea tantaros. here today is harris faulkner, sandra smith, co-host of "after the bell" on fox business, melissa francis, today's #oneluckyguys co-host of "america's newsroom," hour three you want more bill hemmer. welcome, hemmer, you're outnumbered. >> i am outnumbered today but especially feel outnumbered. andrea: we're glad to have you. he is not backing down, that is donald trump, calling for total and complete ban of muslim travel and immigration into the united states in the wake of the deadliest terror attack on american soil since 9/11. the pr