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martha: it seems like we just started the show a few minute ago. this hearing on comey will get a lot of attention. james comey, the f.b.i. director says both shooters in the terror attack were radical eyed as early as 2013. welcome to "happening now." jon: some disturbing new details. investigators are tracking how a recent $28,000 loan a track took out was spent. they are look at the couple's neighbor who bought two rifles in the rampage and whether any of that money went to pay for those guns.
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the killers mowed down 14 people at a christmas party last week. now authorities learned farook may have hatched plans for an earlier attack. reporter: the first of those disturbing comments by f.b.i. director james comey on capitol hill pointing aught tashfeen malik and her husband syed farook were radicalized even before they came into the united states together. we have that picture of them entering at chicago's o'hare airport. he says it was sometime before that point that they became islamic radicals.
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online as early as the end of 2013, they were talking to each other about jihad and martyrdom before necessity became engaged and married and lived together in the united states. reporter: that comment from the f.b.i. director will raise a lot of questions about tashfeen malik in particular, how she got into the country. we know she came in on a k-1 visa. a fiance visa. her background should have been thoroughly checked at that point. if this was done, how was this online conversation between the two of them between jihad and martyrdom not discovered. how did that not preclude her from getting the visa that aloud her to come to the united states more than a year before she then with her husband carried out the
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devastating attacks on the inland regional center in san bernardino. as for whether they have specific plans prior to last wednesday's attack, you heard james comey say they are looking into that. obviously there is a big difference between having specific plans and discussing any possible potential attacks. so the f.b.i. director says they are now trying to look into that and they are looking at whether there was support from anywhere else. we heard publicly from the f.b.i. so far that they have found no direct evidence of any organizational support for this attack from outside the united states. but clearly it's still one part of what is a very big investigation, john. >> trying to figure out where that $8,000 came from. reporter: absolutely. the $28,500 came through a
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france-based come think called prosper. that's a pie -- that's a peer-to-peer learning site. you apply for the loan and it's given by other individual and they reap the interest. the f.b.i. want to find out who provided that money. it could be an innocent individual or could be something much more ominous. that's another track they are pursuing in this investigation. jenna: authorities say after murdering dozen of concert-goers a third assailant took his own life. the native-born frenchman
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returned to syria two years ago before take part in the attack. reporter: we are finally learning about that third attacker at bataclan theater where 0 people were killed. he was a frenchman, a 23-year-old, a. two attackers detonated their vest, a third was killed by police. it was isis who alerted. how many europeans traveled to syria and were trained there and came back to carey out these attacks. aggad traveled to syria with a dozen friends having told his
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far it he was going on holiday. some said they were disgusted with what they saw there, however, he remained. four months before the paris attacks he called his mother who was sending him money, he told her he had no intention of coming home, that he was going to become a suicide bomb in iraq. but he made it home. his far it said if i had known was going to do this, i would have killed him myself. despite the announcement it's unclear how the attacks were carried out and planned. jenna: despite knowing her son went to syria to join isis, the mother was sending him money to support him? i don't know if benjamin can hear me. that will be a key question for
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our guests coming up. we hear about all these westerners traveling to syria. but there is a big question -- who is funding them? is it their families that know about that back in western europe or are there outside investors. this is something we are always curious about when it comes to terrorism. coming you have we'll be talking a form f.b.i. agent who has been all through this and has a brand-new report about who is joining isis. jon: new numbers on the race for the white house. a national poll by suffolk university find on the gop side three candidates show emerging strength. donald trump leads with 27% followed by surging senators ted cruz and marco rubio with 17% and 16%. dr. ben carson drops out of the top tier.
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on the democratic side hillary clinton with a commanding lead at 56%. senator bernie and materials is far behind her at 29%. way behind him, former governor martin o'mall o'malley 4%. betsy, are these numbers giving the party hierarchy on the republican side heart bun? >> absolutely. the extent to which they have heart burn came in an interview republican party chairman priens prebus had. had.
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prebus said that he disagrees. you can tell republican party leaders are stressed out given 2/3 of trump supporters save they would back himn if he launched a third party run. jon: let's show the results of that poll. the poll respondents were asked whether they have would support donald trump if he ran as an independent. 68% said yes. so if you are one of the republican party chief tans look at the prospect of a donald trump bolting the party if he were to run as an independent, what's the result? >> up to this point they have been very scared he would bolt from the party and run as an independent. the thinking is if you play nice with trump he will stay in the party and his supporters will support the nominee.
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the problem is republicans are concluding if done very stays in the race and runs as a republican it will affect the republicans' chances of winning. so now they are in a bind. if you don't play nice with him then he might leave the party. if puff play nice with him he might stay in the party and you might lose anyway. that's change the way they are thinking about this race. i think we are very soon going to be rourke straighting a push towards done *. >> i'm talking about donors fan others, you see with the john kasich super pac. you will see more money of a big heavy push to get this guy out of the race because they don't think they can win if he's in the race. and if he continues what they consider destructive paths.
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jon: if you agree with that, isn't that a path fraught with danger? if you push him out of the race his supporters go with him. >> i think we saw a preview of what we can expect on these republican attacks on trump yesterday. senator staff gave us a speech on the senate floor where he tore into trump. he didn't name him. before it was clear who was talking about. he calls him a megalomaniac. and he blamed obama and washington insiders for being mealy mouthed about terrorism. i think that's what kind of criticism we can expect from republican insiders and republican donors. trump being the nominee is high risk. we'll see what happens.
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jon: we have 11 months to go until election day. thank you both. >> he was a calming presence in the chaotic aftermath of the san bernardino terror attack. >> i'll take a bullet before you, that's for damn sure. you stay calm, okay? jenna: more on the strategy to take out isis. we'll talk about politics coming up in the show a little bit more. can donald trump still get the gop nomination? he's waive ahead in the polls. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever?
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calm in the fairs of terror. >> relax, i'll take a bullet before you, that's for damn sure. jenna: he spoke out about his experience for the first time in a news conference for the san bernardino first responders. take a listen to this. >> it's nothing short of what any other person in law enforcement would do. i don't feel like a hero it many our job to put our lives on the line to protect the community. jenna: he said the sight of the very frightened young child in the group inspired him to say what he said. jon: good man. the head of the f.b.i. took the stand. he said both shooters in san bernardino were radical eye boulevard they ever met online. the chairman of that committee criticizing the president for
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what he calls a failure to formulate a better strategy against isis. >> the american people are very worried not just about terrorism, but about our president's inability tore unwillingness to rally the country, to lead our international partners, to develop a credible strategy to destroy isis and execute that strategy. we are now paying a price for that weakness. jon: former deputy secretary of defense kt mcfarland. you say political correctness is quite literally killing us in this country. >> if you look at growing size of the threat in the united states and when you realize this couple were here legally, yet they were rall calized -- they
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were radicalized years ago. it takes two dozen government employees, state, federal, local, nsa to watch one bad guy 24/7. the f.b.i. director said we have 100 bad guys. we need people to step forward and say i see something, i say something. i think what struck me about the san bernardino killings was the people next door thought there was something fishy and they felt they couldn't come forward and say anything because they didn't want to be labeled as bigoted or anti-muslim. as a result the terrible tragedy unfold. we need americans to feel safe about see something, say something. jon: how about the president's leadership on this score? >> the president doesn't have any direction. i have written oval office speeches.
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they are meant to reassure people, inspire people. what did the president say? we have to watch out we don't have anti-muslim sentiment in the united states. and we have to watch out for a lot of crazy people and the answer to that is gun control. but the american people are rattled. that didn't solve any problems or reassure anybody. jon: this couple was as director comey said apparently radical eyed and committing themselves to jihad even before they met. one would think that would have been contained in the kind of electronic communication the nsa is suppose to be monitoring. is it a failure of intelligence gathering that led to this or did they just slip through the cracks? >> too' are slipping through the cracks. wham the reason for the intelligence failure? part of it may be we are not
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monitoring them like we used to do. and we are not look at them digitally. but there is something very wrong the system that vets somebody like this woman to come into the united states, she is already radicalized. she gets a clean bill of health and leaves were 6-month-old child while she commits jihad. jon: the president's plan to bring at least 10,000 syrian refugees into the country. the boston bombers were radicalized and they came in as refugees. >> we are seeing more and more people falling through the cracks. we are a nation of immigrants, we welcome refugees but we don't commit suicide. if there is not a system in place to vet people coming into the united states, maybe we need to look at the system, figure
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out what's wrong with the system. do an eight of the entire system, then come back with something that works. jon: kt mcfarland, thanks. jenna: a famed professional wrestler facing charges that he murdered his girlfriend 30 years ago. we learned the name of the third attacker. but the back story of the terrorist exetear -- of the ter. sure, tv has evolved over the years.
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jimmy snooka is being charged with murder. the judge set the trial date in march. a california man accused of break into people's homes and stealing their underwear. he used social media posts to identify victims and where they lived. they think he stole men's and women's under wear, even as some victims stlept nearby. the defense rests in the i if you -- in the murder trial of phillip chisholm. he was 14 at the time but is being tried as an adult. jenna: police identifying a third suspect in the attack on the bataclan theater. investigators say a text message to his mother led them to her
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and a dna sample identifying him as a 23-year-old french citizen. all three of the attackers were killed or took their own lives. the number of fighters streaming into iraq and syria has doubled. the number of foreign fighters specifically from western europe has more than doubled since june of 2014. we have a former f.b.i. supervisory agent. look at the news story, we now know the third attacker is a french citizen who traveled to syria. why is this number growing? >> it's different, it differs from one region to another.
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we sight of doubling in western europe. we sight of increasing in the former soviet republics. it went up 300%. jenna: in the chechen region? >> in russia itself they have 2,400. it more than doubled and more than triples. different regions have different factors leading to this phenomenon. in western europe it doubled. in france we have about 1,700 foreign fighters. and the problem is today that what are we going to do when these people start coming back. a lot of them aren't coming back. the average is between 20% to 30% of those who travel to the conflict zone of iraq and syria are coming back. in europe and the eu, it's about 26.8%.
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what we have seen in paris basically based on people who went to syria and came back. not every one will come back as a terrorist, but it's a perfect reminder this is a big problem. somewhat do you think of the potential restrictions we can put on the visa waiver program. it require sos one from france to get a visa before come together united states rather than being able to travel freely. that's one of the recommendations from the white house as well. does that seem like a smart thing now? >> there are a lot of things already in existence with the visa waiver program. all the information has to go through the system and be cleared. if you don't do that you won't be allowed into the united states. there are 38 nations around the
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world in the visa waiver program. but we have outer visas like the fee and you say visa. jenna: having don't work you have done over the last several decades, does sit surprise you this number despite the chances of dying being just always great as they were years ago, that people still flock to isis, why is isis gaining in power? >> you and i talked about it so many times over the years. we have a lot of successful tactics in tackling the issue of extremism. unfortunately we don't tackle ideology. isis, they are not disease, they are symptoms of the disease. we need to tackle the disease. isis will sales exist as long as you have extra accumulation in syria and iraq. as long as there is a tension between the arab state between turkey, russia and iran.
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it's going to be allowed, it will exist. as long as you have the sunni tension in saudi arabia. this is a political solution. you need a political solution. but as we have seen with violent groups in syria and iraq. tunisia has 7,000 foreign fighters in the conflict zone. 70 off them are women. but they come from three or four different towns in tunisia, not the whole country. jenna: i have a quick final question. a personal one, if you will. because of your work, you have been close to the information about the threat against us. but you are also a family guy. you are a far it. you go about your life. we struggle with trying to be vigilant and also going about your life. how do do you that in your
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regular existence? >> i have full trust with intelligence agencies and the f.b.i. and the joint terrorism task force. i know all the hard work that they have. a terrorist has to be successful once. we have to be successful 100% of the time. when they are successful once it's a huge problem, especially for the victims. but also we have to live our lives. terrorists want us to fight among each other. that's what terrorism is all about. we should not give them back. jon: the u.s. senate passes a bill that would replace the no child left behind act and prevent the federal government from mandating common core.
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hear what the chief of the global gas prices say about next year. what the american search giant plans to do with its new e-commerce sick. and health officials looking into what made dozens sick after eating at the same chipotle restaurant. to the surprise of many in the courtroom, officer william porter took the stand in the freddie gray case. he is the first of six police officers, you see him on the left, to go to trial in connection with the death of freddie gray. prosecutors say he was negligent in not buckling gray into a seatbelt and his defense team is suggesting he thought freddie gray was faking illness or distress and that is part of the reason that didn't happen.
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the state rested after calling 16 witnesses. once again officer william porter taking the stand in his own defense. he faces up to 25 years if convicted on all of the charges. >> the senate armed service committee is looking into the strategy against isis. ash carter underscored the high stakes for us and urges other nations to step up the fight. >> the defense of the homeland has to be strengthened. it is necessary to defeat isis in syria and iraq. also to take necessary action wherever else in the world this evil organization grows. >> let's bring in the director of international security at rand corporation and formal senior advisor. it is great to have you, seth, on a day like this where we plan
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to learn more about the strategy in iraq and syria. secretary carter said we need to defeat isis where they are but says he will not put ground troops in that some feel we need. what do you think about the strategy as it stands? >> i think it is inching forward. but it is more reactive than proactive. what the secretary of defense has opened up the box for is more special operation forces on the ground and on the ground deployed with iraqi forces. i think that is a step in the right direction. i think more special operation forces accompanying iraq and kurdish forces on the ground is an important step and attack helicopters will be helpful. >> defense secretary ash carter said he is willing and considering to give attack helicopters to fight isis in
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iraq. how concerned are you that our men and women on the ground could be fighting alongside the iraqi military but the shiite militia that is backed by iran and loosely working with the iraqi military that are not long-term our friends? >> it is important to see and decide where u.s. forces are deployed and where they are not. i have less concern about deploying forces with iraqi forces on the ground, including the higher end special operation forces, kurdish forces and even some of the sunni forces. you don't want to embed the shiite mobilization forces that may benefit iran more than the ira ira iraqi government. >> you have a lot of players on the ground. but in the past we have been successful in this region and
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that is all anyone wants; to be successful and take out the people that aim going after us. i am curious about the special operators versus ground forces. retired general ray during an interview this morning said in any war in our history we are going to have to put ground forces on the ground to win. we will have to do it. does that mean, seth, that it can only be special operators? >> i think the issue is how effective are forces on the ground. we have seen only special operation forces effective in the philippines against a series of jihadist groups because we had a good partner with the filipino military. in somalia we had luck with special operators and u.s. intelligence folks with the kenyans and ethopians doing the primary ground effort.
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the iraqi ground forces can't do it and that raises the issue of larger u.s. help. >> what about the arab coalitions? all of the different countries that joined us? troops from other countries. >> it is certainly worth looking at other countries. there are a range of other countries doing special operations including targeted strikes in syria and iraq. large numbers of ground forces. the problem we have in some countries is their armies are not good in an environment like this. the united states has a decade of experience so i think you would take risk with large ground troops from certain countries including the gulf. >> it would take a lot of coordination. in your experience stepping back from the time as an advisor in afghanistan what is the number one thing we should not be doing and avoid at all cost?
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>> i think the biggest issue we should avoid frankly, well there are two, one is i would not put in large numbers of american ground forces. i think it is worth a discussion about how many we want to increase up to but large numbers, up to 50-75 or 100,000 levels we had in iraq, or more after the 2003 invasion. we saw with the jihadist what the russian involvement in syria did. we need to be careful with a large presence. >> no one is advocating and i say no one generally believe we need a big ground force. the numbers i am seeing is around 10,000 for the numbers. we will see where it goes. seth, great to have you. >> jon: riot police are on the scene after a standoff between
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>> yahoo is reversing the decision to split off into the alibaba group and saying it will be a separate business from the alibaba assets. the spin-off was a tax free shelter for the 340 million shares in the country. but they failed to rule that will alibaba expansion would get a tax extension. worries on wall street leading the yahoo chairman to drop the spin-off and yahoo is a company to watch.
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>> jon: police in northern greece shutdown a border crossing and stop people from getting within three miles of it after a standoff with hundreds of migrants who were denied entry as we get new information about a deadly sinking of a smuggling boat. amy ce amy kellog is live in rome. >> reporter: the weather has gotten colder so the steady stream of boats is less but people are still making the dangerous voyage. six afghan children died after their inflatable boat sank off the coast of turkey just yesterday the day after a body of a young girl washed up on the beach in turkey. it was the images of the three year old syrian refuge boy on a turkish beach that caused europe to swing open the doors but
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after the paris attack they are trying to clamp down on that. there is an automatic acceptance of people coming from syria, afghanistan, and iraq. but those from other countries who ended up stranded between other nations have been protesting they have not given the right to settle where they want to. greece, italy and other countries are facing eu sanction for not being stricter about keeping people in shelters while their identity is checked out. greece is asking for help paying for the deportation of the failed refuges. germany giving out new ids to try to control the situation. germany receiving one million refuges since january. interesting the chancellor of
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germany was awarded the "time" magazine person of the year. earlier in the year, she was pillary by many southern europeans for not handing out s best known for being generous with her refuge policy. decisions made by the german chancellor have changed the faith of europe. back to the immediate problem of settling all of these refuges. there is going to be another emergency meeting next week because europe feels if needs to better police the borders and some of the measures are controversial they want to put in place. >> jon: migration that will reverberate for decades to come. >> a new health concern for a poplar restaurant chain. chipotle reeling from an e.coli
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down? >> and the food fight every company has over sell by dates. will those arguments ever expire? >> all of that plus our #oneluckyguy. >> i have yogurt from june. thank you both, i will be watching. the head of the international energy agency says the price at the pump will be low because demand is weakening and oil prices remain low. also a warning that investment in introduction is due to drop for a second consecutive year and that could cause quote surprises on the sales in the future which could lead to job losses. >> jon: dozens of students from boston college, including players on the men's basketball team got sick, after eating at a chipotle restaurant near campus. health officials say it is not
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related to the e coli outbreak but a case of noro virus which is unpleaseant in its own right. molly is following the story. >> reporter: unpleasant, that is true. the students ate at a local chipotle restaurant and many got ill. the first suspect was e coli thinking it could be linked to the other problems around the country but the lab results are in and there evidence points to noro virus. at least 65 people have fallen ill, students and non-students alike, they are suffering from uncomfortable symptoms and the chipotle restaurant is closed as the investigation goes forward. here is what chipotle is saying: when even one person gets sick from one of our restaurant it is too many and we offer our sincere apologies. we are in the policy of implementing an industry leading
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food safety program to make sure our restaurants are as safe as they can be. a noro virus is spread to food, water and surface by the touch of infected people who did not wash their hands after going to the bathroom. most people do recover in one or two days. it is understandable that e coli was one of the first thoughts in the case because the symptoms are similar. but 52 people were infected e coli around the country. the cdc says it is still not sure what particular food caused that outbreak but that investigation is ongoing. >> molly line in boston, thank you, molly. we will be right back.
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hour not like yesterday when we disappeared. we will see you back in an hour. >> jon: "outnumbered" starts now. >> waiting word on the san bernardino attack. we are learning the couple who killed 14 people at the office holiday party last week was radicalized before they met online about two years ago. this is "outnumbered" i am harris faulkner. here is sandra smith, andrea tantaros, national review colummist catherine, and today's #oneluckyguy, the co-host of fox's red eye andy levy. >> it is great to be here. >> we have a lot to get to. let's start. we know the two suspects responsible for one of the worst terror attacks in united states history were radicalized long before they started dating online. that is the new information the fbi director gave testifyi
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