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. this is a fox news alert. protests have erupted in chicago over last year's fatal police shooting of a black teen. demonstrator are demanding mayor rahm emanual step down. we'll have a live report from chicago a little later this hour. i'm greg gutfeld, we're here today with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, eric bolling and dana perino. this is "the five" . so director of national intelligence, james clapper, told congressman michael mccall that isis is now using the refugee stream to come here. which is odd, since the white house dismissed such claims, but what else is new? the white house is now no
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different than the neighbor who is suspected terror, but didn't report it out of fear of looking racist. since the doj thinks name-calling is worse than terror? can you blame that pair that with our secretary of stone, john kerry, a man whose stiff face makes the burger king mascot seem relaxed. tweeting pictures of him and some actor in paris just days, days after the terror attack. i call him a tool, but that's wrong. because tools are useful. add a media celebrity cesspool and you've got a raging case of terror denial. why the need to shift attention from terror to all of that? the war on terror becomes an immigration or gun debate. le with those realms we are the ones at fault. it's the escape hatch from casting moral judgment on our enemies. because if it's about them and not us, then all that academic brain-wash was a waste. but we don't have to talk about terrorists any more. we can just kill them. good pr fuels recruitment
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inflating prowess without proof of battle. it's time to shut up and shoot. one humiliating defeat for isis and the bandwagon loses bandwidth. the road to armageddon is paved with political correctness and the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. i think trump said that. so kimberly, i have a theory. we haven't seen any evidence of isis fierce battle. we only see their brutality after. if we were able to show a humiliating defeat, that would help ruin their recruitment efforts. >> sure, because right now they're the varsity team, right? and everybody wants to play for them. the problem is you have an administration that's being flat-out duplicitous in terms of the information and misinformation they're putting out. they try to deny and what mccall told us, and we're seeing evidence by clapper that it is true and it's a real security threat with respect to the
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syrian refugee stream. but isis told us this. they're being a little bit cooperative. they tell us, they back up by factual evidence that actually occurs, we are still is isis-deniers. all in on climate comes down on isis, they're going to table the issue. >> this is michael mccall talking about obama's weakness on terror. >> i think he's playing russian roulette with national security. the fact is, you know when you have the fbi director who testified for my committee, the secretary of homeland security talk about the lack of a vetting process, first and foremost we have to protect the safety of americans, we're a humanitarian nation. but let's get this thing right before we start bringing in tens of thousands of syrians. >> what do you think? >> he's talking about the refugee, the refugee program. which president obama has said 10,000, but in the past prior to
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the recent round of dust-up. he said hundreds of thousands. he's literally said that. there's i believe it's about six months ago, he said likely be hundreds of thousands of refugees coming from this and we were going to take them. here's what they say versus here's what's going on. they say isis is contained, strategy will degrade and destroy ices and the refugees are safe. but the secretary of defense said isis is not contained, the former c.i.a. deputy director said obama didn't bomb the oil fields because of environmental reasons, and that would kind of play in with what kimberly said and terrorists now come to american shores. the disconnect between what they're saying and what is really happening is vast. but don't forget, he is a nobel peace prize winner and he promised as much in cairo and in june of 2009. >> the problem is, he's going to bring peace through the existence of a caliphate in the middle east. nice. >> you brought up ash carter, dana. let's roll what he had to say and maybe you can comment on it.
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in your orange. >> mr. secretary, do you agree with general dunnford? >> i agree with what general dunnford said, yes. >> so if we have not contained isil, how are we to believe that we are succeeding against isil? >> i think that we are building momentum against isil. i'm going to be very careful about describing the, i've described the trajectory of that success all around iraq and syria. some actions we're taking in libya. >> dana, this is what i find to be the problem is i'm not the least bit inspired by the stuff coming out of d.c. and you see where the propaganda effort succeeds. on the other side who aren't actually fighting, they're just brutalizing people. >> i was trying to imagine if he was -- reluctant to say more because he knows more? and that he doesn't want to -- you know show his hand in a public session like that.
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but actually then in hearing it again and watching it. i don't think that's the case. what they have to deal is that president obama said that isis is contained, just hours before the paris attack. the administration then tried to explain, no, the white house was talking about geographic area of in iraq, syria and now in libya. but regardless of their geographic territory, we know that they are able to plot and plan from a safe haven and they can do things like inspire through online sources, we're going to get to that a little later in the show. i also think on this one, just remember president obama now said 10,000 refugees. and your heart can break for the little boy's family that washed up on the shores of turkey. but remember, the administration knew that this was going to be a problem. the united nations, the u.s. and europe, europe now facing about a million refugees. talk about playing russian roulette. >> they were warned. >> the point about attacking isis and showing them to be
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vulnerable. remember what bin laden said. he said that his type of fighters want to back a strong horse. so we are now 18 months or so into this campaign to degrade and destroy isis and he's talking about we are starting to gain some momentum, we're building momentum against isis, which is not good enough. >> and earlier before the show started, juan, you said we should just kill them all. i was shocked. >> i would be shocked, too. if that would work, i would say go for it. but i don't think that would work. when you're battling an ideology and the ideology is spreading especially over social media. you've got to be smarter than that. you've got to figure out how exactly we can stop them and stop their recruiting efforts, which is what concerns me greatly about donald trump. i think he's feeding into their anti- that the u.s. and the western world is anti-muslim. not true, but that's what's being fed. to my mind when we get locked into this conversation about contain, not contain, think we're going down you know the rat's hole. i don't think there's any purpose to that conversation.
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the president clearly was talking about territory. today at the white house, josh earnest, the white house press secretary said when it comes to containment, there's no question, 25% of territory previously occupied by isis is now reclaimed by western forces. so but the idea of contain, how can you say contain when you have something like paris or san bernardino, you can't say that and feel good about it. obviously isis is hurting people. >> the expansion into libya is quite serious. that's spreading like -- >> alarming. >> why do we have to be careful? ash carter has been as aggressive as anyone in the administration and he said i have to be careful how to word this. i'm driving into work and i'm thinking, it was on the heels of a lot of people beating up trump. everyone is worried about ticking off certain groups. ticking off muslims. ticking off isis.
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why are we worried? >> ticking off barack obama and valerie jarrett. >> we don't want to tick off the groups and populations and armies of people. why are we worrying about it? >> i took that to mean something different. he said i want to be careful about describing the trajectory of that success. think it's one of two things, one he either has classified information that he didn't want to provide in open setting. or he is trying to be cautious because he knows that the trajectory is not good. and therefore, he doesn't want to overpromise to the american people that we are doing better than we actually are. >> or i think he's probably both. i thought about that very carefully. and both are suggested in the tone and the deliberation in which he spoke. that perhaps -- yes? hope he does, about doing something. and he also doesn't want to give anything up. he wants to underpromise and then overdeliver, otherwise it becomes problematic for the administration and you get a babysitter.
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>> every night on espn you see the highlights, you don't say i don't want dallas to look too good because that might tick off the bears fans. you show your highlights, you show your wins. greg, i thought you were saying why don't we show our wins? why don't we show the world and anyone who is thinking about going to isis, maybe that's not the group you want to join up with. >> maybe you show them committing acts of terror and horror that they committed. unbelievable. our wins. >> that's not a win. >> that's the recruiting tool. >> that's the recruitment tool. >> show them, show the world, i don't. >> the experts say the recruitment is created by those acts of barbarism, because they take that as an achievement. they've never seen proof of battle. but they're seeing people being executed. they use that propaganda into scaring their future targets. >> let me just say, that's sick. >> i would agree. go what you're getting is that
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we're attracting alienated sick, crazy people. in response to what you were saying that i think american strategies, american intelligence and american successes, we know what we're doing. the question is, do we want to tell them what we're doing? i don't think that makes any sense. >> i think we said no ground troops. [ everyone talking at once ] >> you want to boast about american this and american that, but that's not how you win this fight. >> no. when we took out 10,000 fighters once about four, five months ago, we said, and we found out about it a month after it happened, the administration said no, we didn't want to show that. because that would tick them off. >> there you go. >> i have a different idea. >> i agree. >> how about we show the fact that we're taking down ramadi? of course. so all -- new jersey thinking about taking up arms with isis, say that's probably not the team i want to be on.
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>> here's another way of thinking about it one of the famous directors said maybe we shouldn't even be talking about them so much. we are giving lots of publicity. we're saying oh yeah, they're big, they're dangerous, they're scary. that helps their recruitment. >> that's a fair point but the thing is, we also have to deliver, we have to go in there and deliver. it's going to mean ground troops, because we have to go in there. and we don't lose, these guys, they pick their battles by percentage. if they think they're going to lose, they retreat. that's what roving hordes do. >> they will lose. >> yes. >> be allowed to fight. that's the thing. >> juan's like, don't let them fight. put their arms behind their back. >> hey, look, you know what they say, don't get into fights unless you know you're going to win. >> that's what isis is doing. >> don't fight based on emotion and boasting. >> you don't think the u.s. can win and our troops are not capable of crushing them? >> i just said that.
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we want to update the investigation into the san bernardino terror attack. today the director of the fbi was on hill testifying about the killer's road to radicalization and how they became a couple. a very interesting question was posed to him and on that, and going to lligence correspondent join us with more. catherine? >> as fox first reported, syed farook and tashfeen malik were radicalized by the time this photo was taken of them entering the united states in july 2014. in testifying before the senate armed services committee. fbi director james comey said they talked about jihad and martyrdom before they got engaged. leading someone to question before isis or al qaeda played match-maker. >> is there any evidence that this marriage was arranged by a terrorist organization or terrorist operative? or was it just a meeting on the internet? >> i don't know the answer to that yet? >> do you agree with me if it
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was arranged by a terrorist operative of an organization, that is a game-changer? >> it would be a very, very important thing to know. that's why we're working so hard. >> on capitol hill, new scrutiny of the k-1 fiancé visa program. whether malik had an interview by a state department officer which is required under the regulations. >> i don't know well enough to say at this point. i know the process requires it. we're still trying to fully understand exactly all her contacts. >> comey's testimony leaves no doubt that the visa screening process, including two rounds of criminal and national security background checks failed to detect malik's radicalization and though farook had contact with terrorism suspects that the fbi was looking at, it was not enough to warrant an independent investigation of the 28-year-old. dana? >> thanks, catherine. in the wake of last week's attack, some lawmakers in the senate have revived
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controversial legislation to require social media companies to report any activity that could be terror-related. isis and other groups are using twitter and facebook to recruit and communicate. the bill is likely to meet resistance from privacy hawks in the senate. i think that's going to be a fight worth having. i want to go to you, kimberly. i got some information today from the counterextremism project. i think it was very eye-opening. first of all, the number of people killed by isis, since october 10th, which was a paris attack. in six different countries, 525 people. one of the things that the counterextremism project has done is looked at the profiles of about 90,000 of these fighters. one of the things they have in common? they're all on social media and twitter in particular is where you have these gruesome pictures and murders we're talking about in the first block about how that becomes a recruiting tool. and the fbi and other law enforcement and the intel communities are asking please, silicon valley, twitter and others, please help us. and the bill aims to do that.
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>> great, i'm glad they're being proactive about it because this is an additional area that we need to strike at to effectively combat this ideology and debilitate them in terms of their ability to recruit young people who are, easily influenced and can be easily radicalized. even when you have twitter and facebook cooperating and taking one of these sites down 20 minutes later, another site is up. and they are very proficient at having their social media footprint out there. every time we take one down, they put too up. that's the pattern and practice that i've been studying to see. they have so many active sites, 600 different accounts tweeting and putting out information. >> the obama administration had a big study group looking into the possible calling for legislation require companies that would deal with this encryption issue. if you deal with the president's
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speech on sunday night, one of the things he did say was a they're not calling for the legislation, they're asking please would you help cooperate with us, silicon valley and i don't think they're going to get that cooperation. >> facebook and twitter both said they're working directly. snapchat said there's not a lot of that going on on snapchat. they say it's more social and more fun. eventually these people will figure out which one is the one. it will always go to the encrypted one. they can't break the data, it's so heavily encrypted. can i talk about the visa stuff quickly? regular visas take about 30 days to get a visa. there are 34 countries that have a visa waiver program. that takes 24 to 30 hours instead of 30 days. two of the countries that are included in that are france and belgium. two countries that are hotbeds of terror activity and the k-1 fiancé visa that catherine herridge spoke about, thousands are coming over on those visas. not a bad time to take a look at
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all the visa programs. and tighten up all the loose ends of the complete visa program. >> and last night on the hill, the house side, there was a vote, 408 passed. you want to comment on social media? >> social networks are no different than any other kind of product. people may think it's different because it's a communication product. but silicon valley should be way ahead of this. and be thinking about this, it's no different than a food product at a supermarket that realizes that the packaging has been tampered. you notify the authorities if someone has taken the tylenol out and put something else in. that's the same thing as if you discovered there's something going on on your network. we're in danger of portraying cooperation with your government as narcing or being a snitch when in fact what you're doing is you're protecting the freedom to do your job. home depot has a trip wire. all of these places have trip wires and there's no reason why
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social network, should have trip wires. it's not narcing, it's not betraying people's privacy, you're preserving your freedom. >> i don't think there's any question about that. last night i saw tim cook give a talk the head of apple. one of the things he talked about was protecting your privacy, americans. and ted cruz is in a political battle with senator marco rubio, about the idea that rubio says why did you approve the freedom act and undo the patriot act? under the freedom act, the government has to request information on phone calls, rather than instantly amass it and explore it themselves. nobody argued about the idea that you go after the terrorist networks and when you see terrorist activity online, the question is what about american civil liberties. what about eric sent juan a nasty note because he was mad at him. is that their business? probably not. >> why would they waste their time? >> the question is, if they have
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access to everything and they want to find out hey what about that dana perino, as they did remember you know, when the secret service got mad at one of the congressmen, you know all of a sudden all of these old notes start piling up. you got to be careful about government intrusion. >> we have a bigger problem. this encryption situation, it doesn't matter. can you get, let the nsa have access to all this stuff. >> it's device to device. >> they have all of this information that she was spending so many hours writing someone in arabic, which wasn't the language that they spoke, but it's encrypted and they're trying to gain access to it. obviously somebody set them up that she was radicalized in pakistan, in connection to the red mosque. and somebody put those two together. >> it could be tinder. >> jihadi.com. ahead, protests have broken out in chicago after mayor rahm emanual publicly apologized for the fatal police shooting of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald.
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he's been called everything under the sun for his proposal to keep foreign muslims out of america. but donald trump insists it's for the safety of our country. not because he's a bigot or a racist. >> somebody in this country has to say what's right. i have great respect and love. i have people that i have tremendous relationships with. they're muslim. and barbara, they agree with me 100%. >> are you a bigot? >> not at all. probably the least of anybody you've ever met. >> because? >> because i'm not. i'm person that has common sense. i'm a smart person.
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i know how to run things. i know how to make america great again. this is about making america great again. >> tom brokaw is one of many critics who strongly disagreed this would be good for america. >> trump's statement, even in this season of extremes is a dangerous proposal that overrides history, the law and the foundation of america itself. during world war ii, law-abiding japanese american citizens were herded into remote internment camps. african-americans whose ances r ancestors who came here as slaves were treated as second- or third-class citizens, in uniform and out. yes the jihadists are muslims. but in a world with a billion and a half muslims. defeating isis will be long, hard, expensive. perhaps even more so now because isis is likely to use donald trump's statements as a recruiting tool. >> well pretty strong editorial
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statement for him to go on the record and say something like that. let's take it around the table. juan? >> well i think brokaw has a lot of credibility. especially with the greatest generation, american who is fought in world war ii. he's done the book, he knows that experience and here he is, saying looking back over that history -- in world war ii, with the japanese, with the nazis, coming out of it. he mentions senator joe mccarthy and the kind of internal bitterness and finger-pointing that can take place here. i know greg is going to get upset. but fear-mongering that can occur. he says we cannot have that, that does not lead to clear thinking, it will not defeat isis and it will defeat american principles. >> bolling? >> isis hates us, they're not going to hate us any more because donald trump says don't let muslims come into america. they already hate us for everything we stand for, not just donald trump's comments, brokaw mentioned fdr, democrat
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as far as i remember. didn't he do the same thing during the iran hostage crisis? cut off all iranians from coming into america during that time period? i read it, i could be wrong. but i read it. so what, all right. look, again, we really need to stop worrying about how they feel about us. they hate us, everything is an isis recruiting tool. guess what, this iphone is an isis recruiting tool. let's get over it i like the tough talk. i'm tired of obama's soft talk. i like the tough talk. >> dana? >> i'm not sure what i'm responding to. like if it's -- i'm not for religious test. i am for common sense and brokaw's point of 1.6 billion, with a b muslims in the world. we're not going to be able to keep all of them out forever. when you have a big, broad statement like that you're going to get push-back for that and questions like that. and they're trying to back-fill their response. does this include people he does business with in the arab world, are they not going to be allowed to come in and do business?
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so by not being clear, he causes more problems for himself. but i do think there are people who would say let's not let any of them in. my biggest concern is that syed farook was born in america. where we should be spending our time is to figure out what did our intel officers and police need to help prevent attacks that are being home-grown right here. >> that's so scary to me. that is so scary, the self-radicalization is what absolutely scares me. >> some people think that she, the wife, was the one that radicalized -- >> they said they're not sure about that any more. >> but the evidence now suggesting that they were both radicalized and perhaps put together purposefully as a team. jihad team, husband and wife and then they had a jihad baby. a little troubling. so -- >> a jaby. >> he planned an earlier terror attack, in 2011. you can't call donald trump a racist. because a religion is a set of
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ideas. it is actually not a race. you can call him a lot of things, but you can't call him a racist. the difference between iran is that that was a measure against a state and trump is pushing a measure against a people. a billion people, that's a difference. the thing is the problem with trump is that what happens is there are some very sound ideas that we all talk about, how to make america safer, safe as possible. and what happens is he gives ammo to critics to paint all of our efforts, as implausible. and not deep and exaggerated and sensational. and who gets off scott-free after the obama's speech? president obama. but even more so, hillary who skated right by, you can hear her mad, crazy laughter. because every four days, donald trump says something that is close to what we believe in, but inflam tore i inflammato inflammatory.
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and smears everything we believe in he's like your uncle. >> the bottom line is i don't think president obama is getting a pass from anybody. >> you know what i mean. >> i hear what you're saying, taking the wind out of the room or changing the focus. >> it would have been nice if tom brokaw would do an editorial about how the administration has failed. that would have been interesting. but -- instead -- >> do you think that was coming? >> that's my point. it's very unusual for tom brokaw to do a long editorial like that. that's reason he did it, i think for nbc it was effective. >> you're witnessing a unifi media. a group that is really drooling over this story. who ignored the planned parenthood videos. you're giving them ammo. and in the same respect destroying the republican party. >> the bottom line is we need to do something different. we've been saying that at this table. we need to review our visa programs, why are we having 25% of the people coming into this country, the k-1 fiancé visas, we met, we had a moment in our eyes in person. let's do this. >> are you looking at greg?
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>> he was looking at me. >> i think everybody at the table felt it. >> i'm going to cry. >> i think they're all in. >> next, calls are growing for mayor rahm emanual to step down, he is under fire for his handling of police shootings in his city and protests have erupted today. a live report coming up next.
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i take responsibility, not only for that. but to also fix it. >> hundreds of protesters are out demanding the mayor resign. we're going to go now to fox's mike tobin who is there live. mike, set the scene. i see the crowd growing. darkness is coming, crowd seems to be growing. what are they after? >> well i don't know that the crowd is growing, we've watched the crowd kind of grow and shrink throughout the day. the one thing that chicago police have been doing, if these guys want to march, they let them march and walk it off. and sometimes people get tired and they fall away. we've seen the crowd shrink in the last hour or so. and they're marching now, what's interesting is they've taken it out of the troubled areas, they're marching through a part of the town known as the gold coast. the pump room is in this part of town. the christmas lights are up in front of the brownstones, they're taking the none strangs to what they say is the rich people here to get their attention. they gathered for a while in front of the cardinal's house, and had their demonstration,
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demonstrating that they're not happy. they're not satisfied by the apology of the mayor. they want his resignation and the resignation of the state's attorney, anita alvarez. >> the chicago police department, what's their reaction to the mayor basically throwing them under the bus, saying there's a progress going on here? >> by and large, the cops that i've been dealing with out here are the people who are providing security out here in the street. and they seem to be pretty easy going, and intentionally so. they don't want to have conflicts with the demonstrators out here. sometimes they form a line. you get some pushing and shoving until they release the line. but the guys out here are very intentional as far as presenting a relaxed demeanor. >> gotcha, mike. thank you very much. thanks. bring it around, kg, your thoughts on this? it's evolving, getting bigger. >> it's very interesting, it seems that president barack obama hasn't been able to protect his old buddy and ally and cohort.
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with rahm emanual. because they're calling for him to resign. which by the way, who hid the video? who kept it concealed? for a year. because it would be politically disastrous if it was released. i mean that's the mayor's call. if you're going to be mad at somebody, he took out the police superintendant, who was the sacrificial victim in this. but the police department, this guy works, was appointed by the mayor. what are you going to do about that? >> this looks and sounds, like what went on a year and a half ago in new york city, when de blasio threw the police under the bus with the eric garner situation. >> i think here there was politics involved. i think that's the heart of the allegation is that the mayor hid the video at a time when he was up for re-election and it could have cost him the re-election. i'm thinking to myself what's the benefit of having the mayor thrown out? who comes in that you think is going to be so different? in fact it was the prosecutor, who cooperated in this. and had to be forced by a judge, to release the video.
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but you know what's striking to me, is there's no group here, it's not like you can say black lives matter, there's no leadership, it's just like kind of you know, the dispossessed and frustration or anger. i don't know haas going on. it's a puzzle. >> too early to tell? >> he should have been gone. if not for this, but for all of those who have been shot and killed in chicago while he went after chick f-fil-chick-fil-a. >> a trend-friendly liberal story, chick-fil-a. as the streets have turned into a firing range. to juan's point. what is the point of resigning if you replace him with another far-left, big government junkie. you saw in arab spring, it's time for a liberal mayor spring. where all around the country, they just drop. they resign, everywhere. >> dana, does rahm emanual survive this? he was the one who said never
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let a tragedy go to waste. >> well political karma is a you know what. because this is a guy who was very difficult to deal with in washington, d.c. he doesn't have a lot of friends. they're fake friends, political friends and believe me, they do not stick with you. president obama went to the white house briefing room, to talk about other police brutality. said that that was important. with the cat got his tongue on this one. where is he? and hillary clinton said that she stands by rahm emanual. i would bet in the next week, hillary clinton will also quietly drop her support for rahm emanual and he will move on and make millions somewhere else. >> very good. we're going to have to leave it there. the "time" person of the year was named today and it's not donald trump and as you might expect he had something to 0 say about that and the selection when "the five" returns. so that's two things. introducing real time delivery notifications. sign up at myusps.com
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each year "time" magazine picks a person of the year. and for 2015 they chose angela merkel. the chancellor of germany for her role in guiding europe through a debt crisis, a migration crisis and more. the runner-up was isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi, and coming in third, well, a man who can't stand not being number one -- donald trump. as you can expect, he went right to twitter following the announcement. here's what he said. i told you, "time" magazine would never pick me as first of
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the year despite being the big favorite. they picked a person who is ruining germany. what do you think, eric? >> i, well i think he means ruining germany with at least referring to the 980,000 refugees that germany is taking and there's a lot of question whether that was a good idea. angela merkel switched on her posture on that one. i don't know that that's so good to be "time's" person of the year. >> why not? >> one year it was the protester. remember, on the heels of occupy wall street. one year it was ferguson. >> if you're running for president, it would help. >> it would? >> it would give awe lot of publicity. wouldn't you say, kg? >> look i used to be a pretty big fan of angela merkel because she yoet some really interesting pieces on multiculturalism and how it was tearing communities apart. the focus could be separate and distinct. each community speaks their own language. we've shown that's not been a successful fabric and we've seen some of the struggles that now they've had in france and some
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of the terror issues that we've seen throughout the world. i think she's strong choice in general for the other things she's done like leading germany through debt crisis and all that. but i don't know, i think i would like her to be a little more step-up as it relates to our coalition combatting terror. >> what do you think about al-baghdadi as number two? >> you know what's number two? "time" magazine. i used to read it. but i'm telling you -- >> oh, my god. >> time is over for "time" magazine. this is the last time we ever do this story about "time's" choices, they are so -- "time" magazine's choice is as irrelevant as a rotary phone on a pogo stick. nobody reads this. can you find a pharmacy and find a pamphlet on diabetes that's thicker than "time" magazine. it's a promotional effort with all promotion, no effort, it's stupid and yet i argued, we shouldn't do this story.
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don't worry, it's the end of the show. >> throw him under the bus. >> number four was black lives matter. so trump just beats out black lives matter for person of the year. >> there's always next year. >> you could be on the stupid list, that's a joke. if that's what you really want. i do think the fact that we should be at least mindful to actually glorify isis this way, you think that they won't use this as propaganda? >> i know -- >> we'ring it because he was on the list. >> i'm saying with isis, i think that "time" magazine. could we have more responsible than trying to glorify them. they obviously take it as a compliment and don't see it as joke. >> number seven, speaking of oddities was caitlyn jenner. 6 was someone i have never heard of, travis kavalnic, ceo of uber. if a denture were to be
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jorge lozano and he spoke out for the first time yesterday, take a listen. >> i meant what i said. i said for them just to kind of calm down and relax. that we were going to do everything we can to get them out of there safely. it's nothing short of what any other person in law enforcement would do. i don't feel like a hero whatsoever. it's our job to put ourselves in the line of danger to protect the community. >> well, god bless jorge lozano. what a fantastic -- >> stud. >> that too, that too. somebody giving back and serving the community fearlessly, bravely every day. >> a good guy. >> eric? >> when you run for president social media matters a lot. we told but chris christie's superpac, leadership for america.org, lmfao. if you type in jeb bush.com, look what happens? it redirects to donald trump's
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website. trump bought jebbush.com. guys, you got to clean up your act. make sure all your ts are crossed and youryour is are dot. >> i'm signing books, i'm signing books online. which means if you go to live signing.com. you can watch me sit there and talk to people but you also have do buy a book and i will talk to you. you go on, you log on and it's a live event and i just sit there all over america. if you go there -- >> it's like watching you sit in your living room. >> i'll be naked. no, i won't. >> i'm joking of course. because that would be horrifying. >> shorty rope. >> all robes are shorty. >> if you buy them in the children's department. that's what happens. putting a period at the end of a sentence while tex texting makes you seem insincere and rude. according to a study at binghampton university, they looked at 160 undergrads to look
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at text messages. i took a chance of just experimenting with greg gutfeld on a text exchange. look at this look how rude he is. i said greg, do you want to go to chipotle with me. he said no. with a period. i said why not i'm in the mood for a burrito bowl. because it will kill you he said, with a period. and i was offended. >> he tried to save your life because of the e. coli. >> it's the -- that gives you diarrhea. >> my love of christmas and christmas decorations, are going crazy here in new york city. my love of christmas and air travel are in conflict because the newest thing in christmas lights is laser displays. and recently, a pilot flying over dallas one of those lasers hit his cockpit window at 15,000 feet it created a whole blinding light situation. the faa is starting to crack down on laser christmas lights, a warning for all of you who like me, just love and are
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dazzled by christmas lights displays. >> didn't anybody figure this out. it's so obvious, it's one pointer to screw someone up in the air about 500 of them. >> set your dvr, never miss an episode. "special report" is next. this is a fox news alert. i'm shannon bream in for brett baier. a new fox news poll shows the impact of donald trump's muslim remarks in a key early primary state. that story in a first, but just in new details on the muslim couple who slaughtered 14 people at a holiday luncheon a week ago. we're learning tonight that the two may have planned an earlier assault. and now we can tell you how we're getting the information about the perpetrators of the deadliest terror attack on u.s. soil since 9/11. senior correspondent adam housley has the latest from san bernardino, california. hello, adam. >> yes, enrique marquez, a friend of syed farook, the man who allegedly supplied the
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