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episode. "special report" is next. this is a fox news alert. i'm shannon bream in for brett baier. a new fox news poll shows the impact of donald trump's muslim remarks in a key early primary state. that story in a first, but just in new details on the muslim couple who slaughtered 14 people at a holiday luncheon a week ago. we're learning tonight that the two may have planned an earlier assault. and now we can tell you how we're getting the information about the perpetrators of the deadliest terror attack on u.s. soil since 9/11. senior correspondent adam housley has the latest from san bernardino, california. hello, adam. >> yes, enrique marquez, a friend of syed farook, the man who allegedly supplied the couple with rifles and is
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connected to the family through marriage is providing significant information we're told with fbi interviews. one individual says he is quote singing like a bird. providing information like the evidence of a possible abandoned plot. and also, communications between not only syed and his wife, but other individuals here in the u.s. and abroad. it comes a day as the fbi director james comey not only fox's reporting from yesterday of tashfeen malik being radicalized and her husband as well, but going even further. >> san bernardino involved two killers, who were radicalized for quite a long time before their attack. >> testifying in front of the senate judicialry committee, the head of the fbi says syed farook and tashfeen malik were headed towards islamic extremism before they met online and prior to malik coming to the united states. >> as early as the end of 2013, they were talking to each other about jihad and martyrdom before they became engaged and then married and lived together in the united states. we also believe they were
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inspired by foreign terrorist organizations. we're also working very hard to understand whether there was anybody else involved. with assisting them, with supporting them, with equipping them. and we're working very, very hard to understand did they have other plans. >> plans that may have included an earlier attack. fox news has learned that farook may have been plotting terror prior to last week's shooting. that information gleaned from interviews with enrique marquez, an acquaintance of farook tied to the killers through marriage and purchased two of their weapons. law enforcement sources say marquez may have been in the process of converting to islam and using an islamic name. meanwhile members of congress want to know how malik, a pakistani national living in saudi arabia was able to get into the u.s. if she had ties to radical islam. >> was she actually given an interview in the k-1 process? do we know that? >> i don't know well enough to say at this point. i know the process requires it. we're still trying to fully understand exactly all her contacts.
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>> according to sources, the digital footprint continues to build we're told information has been taken from at least one of the hard drives. the other one was damaged pretty significantly and also cell phones that show syed supported groups like hamas and made postings that were anti-israel well before isis was ever created. shannon? >> new details every day. adam, thank you very much. the third man who attacked the bataclan concert hall in paris last month has been identified. fouad mohamed-aggad and two others killed 90 people. his identity was discovered after his mother came forward saying she received a text message from syria. informing her of his death quote with his brothers. all three bataclan attackers were killed, two by detonating suicide vests, the other was fatally shot by police. taliban extremists launched an assault on an air base outside kandahar, afghanistan today. it triggered a 24-hour gun battle that the defense ministry says killed at least 37 people. a nato spokesman says there were
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no coalition casualties. a u.s. army colonel in kabul says the taliban never physically entered the air field. president obama's pentagon chief is admitting tonight what his boss will not, that isis is not contained. but what exactly defense secretary ashton carter will be allowed to do about it is still an open question. correspondent kevin corke has more tonight from the white house. >> on a day when russia launched cruise missiles into syria and president obama and the israeli president met in the oval office for the first time, defense secretary ash carter was on capitol hill where he told the senate armed services committee that the pentagon was prepared to ramp up the fight against isis. >> the united states is prepared to assist the iraqi army with additional unique capabilities. to help them finish the job. including attack helicopters and accompanying advisers. if circumstances dictate and if requested by prime minister abatti. >> american apache helicopters
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have been in iraq since last summer but only in a force protection capacity. carter made it clear today that could change. but white house officials said even if the iraqis asked for help there's no assurance the president would heed the call. >> the president has not decided to approve the use of u.s. attack helicopters in an operation like this. >> carter also testified that he wouldn't hesitate to expand the use of u.s. special forces operators in the region. a fight he said would be much more effective if more coalition partners stepped up. >> special operations forces strike and reconnaissance aircraft, weapons and munitions, training assistants and other items. >> despite admitting that isis is in fact not contained, carter said the coalition was building momentum. noting recent gains in and around ramadi. separately on capitol hill fbi director james comey was asked about the growing threat of the caliphate and whether it could reap the u.s. homeland with another 9/11 style attack.
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>> their ability to have a safe haven from which to gather resources, people and plan and plot increases the risk of their ability to mount a sophisticated attack against the homeland. >> meanwhile in welcoming the israeli president to the white house, president obama called the american bond to israel unbreakable. >> our commitment to israel's security would be one of the most important principles of american foreign policy. >> a foreign policy increasingly challenged by the kremlin. russian president vladimir putin citing his country's nuclear capability in the fight against isis, saying quote naturally this is not necessary when fighting terrorists and i hope we'll never be needed. that in stark contrast to today's announcement by secretary of state john kerry that he will soon venture to moscow for peace talks on syria and ukraine. kerry said he expects to meet with sergei lavrov and also president putin during his time in moscow and he maintains that the russians do want a political solution in syria despite
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aggressively protecting their interests. shannon? >> kevin corke live at a busy night at the white house. the controversy over his comments about muslims is not hurting donald trump, not one key early primary state. that's the take-away from new fox polling in south carolina. cliff political correspondent carl cameron looks at the numbers tonight. >> in south carolina, the state with the first southern primary in february, the latest fox news poll shows donald trump firmly in first place with 35%. ben carson is at 15 in a three-way tie for second, with ted cruz and marco rubio at 14. the rest of the field is in single digits. half the survey was kentuckied after donald trump proposed a moratorium on new muslim immigrants and visitors and his numbers went up eight points. with carson struggling over foreign policy and sliding in other polls, ted cruz and marco rubio are locked in an increasingly bitter fight. rubio blasted cruz for voting to end the nsa surveillance program and double-talk on immigration.
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cruz counterpunched hard today. >> they want to change the subject because remember, marco rubio joined with chuck schumer and barack obama in proposing a massive amnesty plan. >> a self-described evangelical who quotes skrikt tur, cruz is banking on a surge in south carolina and iowa where christian conservatives make up more than half the gop vote. trump said he prefers no the to discuss religion or the bible. >> are you a bigot? >> not at all. probably the least of anybody you've ever met. >> because? >> because i'm not. >> republicans have reason to worry that trump's proposed muslim moratorium and other controversies could jeopardize their control of congress. a democratic senatorial campaign press rooi release says endangered republican senators are in major trouble and identifies five swing state republican senators facing tough fights next year, being peppered with questions about trump's views. president obama called for an end to bigotry and added emphasis when referencing the
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need for religious tolerance to pronounced applause. >> to remember that our freedom is bound up. with the freedom of others. regardless of what they look like or where they come from or what their last name is or what faith they practice. >> trump's gop rivals feel frustrated and pulled off mej by what they consider to be his offensive unconstitutional proposals. jeb bush suggests that trump is more polarizing than the president. >> push people down to divide the country. >> in the new fox poll not only is trump leading the horse race, he's viewed as the strongest leader and the most honest and trustworthy. on issues of national security to economy, he's way ahead of the pack and once again trump seems to be defying gravity and conventional wisdom. shannon? >> thanks, carl. joining me from new york is ohio governor, republican presidential candidate governor john kasich. welcome. you were asked about mr. trump today. i want to play about what you
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had to say about his candidacy. >> whether in his plans, to attack hispanics, muslims, databases, insults to women, and so far as to make fun of a reporter with a disability. people don't buy this. oh, there may be a few. but this doesn't represent what we are. >> governor, you said some people buy it maybe a few. i want to point to our brand new fox polling out of south carolina which puts mr. trump at the top with 35%. among south carolina's likely gop primary voters. how do you square that with what had you to say today? >> well, i mean polls are one thing. i think to a larger degree, if i got put on television as much as donald trump does, i would be at 40%. and shannon, here's the other thing. when people actually go to vote, then we're going to know what the truth is and it's coming. i mean iowa is not far from now and then we follow up with new
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hampshire. and i think we're going to be beginning to see voting and voting is going to reveal what's true. i will tell new new hampshire i have a great team on the ground and we believe that we're going to do extremely well there. and i have to tell you, when the voting starts, i think we're going to see reality. because people are not going to vote for somebody who is a divider. i can tell you this. you come to ohio and talk like that, you got no chance to win and a republican hasn't won the white house without winning ohio ever. so you'll begin to see things start to settle down. in my opinion. i could be wrong, but i don't think so. >> governor, in this system system polling you're at 1%. of course that's just after new hampshire. how critical is new hampshire for you? how do you gain the momentum to get attention in these early states? >> well look, part of the problem i have in some of these states is low name i.d. so in iowa we are putting some resources in, not a lot. but in new hampshire, i've got the support of john sununu and the best team on the ground.
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i will be a story coming out of new hampshire. i was in south carolina earlier this week. and so you know, with, with success is going to come name identification. and you know, a lot of people said i wouldn't get in the race, i did they said i wouldn't make the stage, i did they said i would run out of money, i haven't. the hold on and you will see that we can produce results, up in new hampshire with the data that we have, experience does matter. the experience of balancing a budget. today i made a big foreign policy speech at council of foreign relations, well received. i think people will ultimately look towards somebody who has been a reformer and a job creator and somebody who has foreign policy experience. shannon that's what you're going 0 see and i believe the results will be good. >> trump has a massive lead in new hampshire that you'll have to overcome in the coming weeks and he'll also make noise to stay within the party, run within the party and support the nominee. here's what you said today when somebody asked you whether you would stick with that pledge?
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>> i signed a pledge that's why you have to be careful with what pledges you sign. that i would support the republican nominee. now look is it possible that you change your mind? yeah. >> it takes something extreme to do it but i will tell you, there's no way that donald trump is going to be president. >> is donald trump that something extreme that would get you out of the pledge, governor? >> well you know, my concern is, america can't be divided, shannon. all of your reports are about terrorism threats, lousy economy. look, at the end we're not going to be great as a country when we're fighting with one another. picking on every group you can imagine. we're stronger as a country when we're united and when the division gets to the point where it's overwhelming, then i think i have to take a second look. i hope he changes his rhetoric. i hope he becomes a unifier. but if he doesn't and the divisions and the extremism continues, i've got to take another look, shannon, i know i
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made a pledge and i like to keep my pledges. and almost always i do. and if i don't i'll be the first one to explain exactly why. let's not go there. because i don't believe he's going to be the nominee. i don't take it that seriously, to be honest with you. >> well polling at this point shows us differently. i want to talk to you about some of the foreign policy items you talked about today. >> shannon, polling is a picture of the past. it's also you know one of the polls was 400 people out of 325 million americans. we'll see what happens when we vote. and then all the discussion of polling and where we are, it will all go by the wayside. then we'll know. >> well the trend hasn't changed. so you're right, we'll see once the actual voting starts. i want to ask you about isis today. you said that at some point there would have to be more ground troops on the ground. you said sooner is better than later. that we mutt off the inevitable by waiting. how do you sell that when there is much opposition to putting troops on the ground and certainly building a coalition that you know where the u.s. is not primarily the source of
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these ground troops. >> well shannon, first of all i think we have to be on the ground. the united states of america. it's no different than the first gulf war where we had a coalition of arabs and our friends in nato and the fact of the matter is, they're all under attack. we're under attack. i mean everybody is concerned and isis has to be stopped. and what i've said and i said it since last february, is that we need to have a coalition. secondly, an air campaign will not get it done. when we just think we can win from the air, we are really misguided. and we're going to have to be in the air, but we're also going to have to be on the ground and it has to be a coalition and the longer we wait, the more difficult it will be. and how do i know this? i served on the defense committee for 18 years. i followed national security issues all of my lifetime. my national security adviser is the former national security adviser to president reagan. i know what we have to do. plus we have to improve intelligence, coordinate intelligence around the world and in addition to that we have to deal with what we saw in san
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bernardino. where we know these two people were communicating with people who the intelligence community was watching. but yet we couldn't hear them. they encrypted their communication and this is something that has to be resolved. and it is an essential and vital issue for our ability to protect ourselves at home. so go and destroy isis where they are. start to tell people what the west represents, begin to review this whole visa program so we have so we don't have dangerous people coming into the country and in addition make sure that our counterterrorism task forces in the united states are well funded and they have the tools to disrupt plots. >> governor kasich, we'll see you out on the campaign trail. thanks for your time tonight. >> i hope to see you shannon, thank you. up next, friend of president obama, chicago mayor rahm emanual fights for his job. first, here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 10 in phoenix, life in prison for two men convicted of first-degree murder in the death of border patrol agent brian tery. the killing five years ago
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exposed the government's ill-fated operation fast and furious scheme to track illegal guns back to criminal gangs. fox 13 in salt lake city, where a report prepared for a state commission is urging utah officials to consider suing the federal government for control of public lands within the state. federal property makes up almost two-thirds of utah land. a live look in boston from fox 25, boston college says more than 120 students are reporting stomach illnesses. nearly all of whom ate at a chipotle restaurant near campus. >> school health services says the symptoms are consistent with norovirus. it has nothing to do with the recent cases of e. coli in nine states. that's tonight's look outside the beltway on "special report," we'll be right back.
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right now chicago mayor in and friend of the president, rahm emanual is fighting to save his job and his political career. emmanuel made a an emotional address to the city council today as he faces an uproar over the police department. correspondent mike tobin is in chicago tonight. >> demonstrations grew in size and passion on the streets of chicago despite the efforts of mayor rahm emanual to calm them.
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a capitulation to the demands of black leadership in chicago, words hard for a man with a reputation that the democrat has built. >> if we're going to begin the healing process, the first step in that journey is my step and i'm sorry. >> demonstrators outside council chambers didn't listen. >> anything you got to say, he's not going to give us an answer or anything that we need. >> all in response to the release of a police dash cam video in which a chicago police officer, jason van dyke can be seen firing 16 rounds into 17-year-old laquan mcdonald. the video kept under wraps and charges against van dyke delayed for a year, more allegations of police misconduct and the department of justice launched an investigation. demonstrators have been on the streets since before thanksgiving. demanding the mayor's resignation. his emotional apology is an plea
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for more police accountability. >> no citizen is a second-class scitizen in the city of chicago. [ applause ] >> if my children are treated one way, every child is treated the same way. >> the demonstrations have largely splittered at least for the moment they can regroup at any time. they want the resignations of the state's attorney and the resignation of mayor rahm emanual. there's no law on the books to unseat a mayor in chicago. he's got another three years to re-election. shannon? >> mike, thanks so much. the first of six baltimore police officers charged in the death of an african-american man last spring took the stand today. officer william porter faces manslaughter and other charges in the case of freddie gray, prosecutors say porter should be held partially responsibility because he did not buckle gray into a seat belt and failed to call a medic when gray asked for
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medical attention. porter said he never buckles into a police van and gray appeared alert and uninjured and did not complain of pain or wounds. a man accused of killing a police officer and two civilians during a siege of a planned parenthood clinic said he is quote a warrior for the babies and will not go to trial. >> protect the babies. >> robert louis dear made the outburst before he was formally charged with first-degree murder in a colorado springs courtroom. dear said you'll never know what i saw in that clinic. atrocities, the babes, that's what they want to seal. dear claims he's being drugged by his lawyer. the dow fell 76 today, the s&p 500 dropped 16 and the nasdaq was down 75. the senate has passed the education bill that essentially replaces the no child left behind law. the bipartisan vote was 85-12. president obama will sign the bill tomorrow morning. the measure substantially limits the federal government's role in education, returning
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considerable responsibility to states and school districts. republicans in a panic over donald trump. we'll tell you how and why, when we come back.
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america's election headquarters in-depth tonight. why many in the gop fear donald trump could take the party down with him in 2016. correspondent doug mcelway examines the political conundrum of the trump phenomenon. >> we're like the stupid country. >> like rodney dangerfield in "caddyshack" donald trump has the head table at the gop country club. the establishment is fascinated and appalled. with his huge poll numbers impervious to misstatements and violations of political correctness. the business man holds a
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powerful ace in the hole. >> he's got huge leverage over the republican establishment right now. treat me fairly, or i'm bolting. >> he signaled that threat last month weeks after signing a gop loyalty oath when he tweeted quote "wall street journal" reports that gop getting ready to treat me unfairly. big spending planned against me, that wasn't the deal. a trump third party run could doom republican chances for the white house. by splitting the gop vote. long-time analysts say could his winning the gop nomination. >> trump cannot appeal to swing voters in the key states like ohio and florida. virginia, nevada. the other swing states. and the swing states are where the election is. >> it helps to explain the gop's love/hate relationship with trump. many of his primary rivals have thrown off the gloves. >> you know how you make america great again? tell donald trump to go to hell. >> but rubert murdoch tweeted,
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complete refugee pause to increase vetting makes sense. trump is connected with voters on issues like trade with china and america's broken borders. but it also calls in a misguided missile and adds trump says what's on his mind, that's a problem. it's also a problem, some say, for gop congressional races. >> it will make it very difficult for republicans to maintain control of the senate, it's going to make it tough for republicans in blue states and in pur hold on to governorships. the trouble with all of those predictions is that the conventional wisdom which wrote trump off months ago has proved spectacularly wrong. who's to say when it starts proving right. shannon? >> doug, thank you. it is not just republicans who are taking advantage of donald trump's comments about muslims, hillary clinton is getting in her shots, here's chief white house correspondent ed henry. with her race for the democratic nomination on cruise
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control, hillary clinton today jumped on republican front-runner donald trump's comments about muslims. clinton declaring most muslims are on america's side. but trump and other republicans are undermining the fight against isis. >> some of the other republican candidates have finally said that these latest comments have gone too far. but the truth is, a lot of them have said some pretty extreme things, too. >> clinton is all in. using her website to sell love trumps hate stickers and launch a quiz whether controversial statements were uttered by trump or others. >> it's time to wake up and smell the falafel. >> a helpful distraction for clinton if another video released by the conservative superpac america rising. that contrasts key leadership moments. >> i can hear you. >> with the handling of isis by clinton and president obama. >> this cannot be an american fight. >> clinton's attacks on trump also shift focus from an
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"associated press" story revealing she intervened in a request from chelsea clinton's husband to help a mining firm. writing the top deputy thomas nyde quote could you have someone follow up on this request, which was forwarded to me. >> today fbi director james comey repeated he doesn't give a rip about politics when it comes to his investigation of clinton's emails. >> i don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, it doesn't matter what anybody thinks or feels about our work. >> clinton is riding high. the latest fox poll shows among likely democratic primary voters in south carolina, she's leading democratic socialist senator bernie sanders by 44 points. liberal celebs are swooning for clinton. barbra streisand telling the "hollywood reporter" at first she was a bit stiff, uncomfortable. i know her in person and she's warm and lovely and brilliant. and speaks without notes, i think she's amazing. >> streisand attacked trump. charging he says the same thing over and over. and america needs a woman's sensibility. shannon? >> ed henry, thank you.
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the san bernardino shooters radicalized long ago and planning an attack for years. that's what we're hearing today from the obama administration. we'll talk about the terror investigation with the panel, after a short break.
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. what we do need in iraq is several thousand additional u.s. troops, to improve and accelerate the training of iraqi forces, especially sunni tribal fighters, embed with and advise iraqis closer 0 to the fight. call in air strikes from forward positions and conduct counterterrorism operations. >> we have the capability to furnish a u.s. component to such a ground force, we have not recommended this course of action for several reasons. >> let's bring in our panel to talk about isis strategy and how it bleeds over into u.s. terror policy. tucker carlson, host of fox and friends weekend. kirsten powers, "u.s.a. today"
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columnist and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. ash carter made a statement that isis is not contained tucker. different than what his bosses said. >> that's true. it's a revision of current policy and so is our plan to retake ramadi of course that was in effect in u.s. control up until may. the only point i would make is the obvious one to those who say this can be done with the help of sunni tribal fighters, the iraqi army, the u.s. government spends untold billions training the iraqi army over a long period of years. and they by all accounts melted away in the face of the isis assault in may. on that city. so where's the difference? what have we learned? what would we do differently next time to prevent that from happening again. that's the missing piece. i didn't hear anything about in the hearings, it's not enough to say it will be bet they are time. it's important to explain how. >> he talked about iraq and syria and the need for u.s. forces to be there, to have more
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involved presence, but he also said today we're going to have to get into libya. kirsten. that's the first i've heard. >> i think the problem is that there's not going to be much appetite for that in this country. i think he said a couple of things i thought were interesting. the reason he gave for us not getting more involved in fighting isis, he said it would be a significant undertaking. it would be you would have to do it mostly by ourselves, we would be seceding this advantage of special forces, none of those reasons seem like reasons not to do something. the fact that it's a significant undertaking, that's stating the obvious. we don't have to cede our advantages. i think the bigger issue is if you're going to talk about what john mccain, lindsey graham suggesting 10,000 troops, we know there's 40,000 isis troops? that's a 4 to 1 advantage. that also doesn't seem like a plan. i think you have both sides not offering up really palatable choices. >> charles, secretary carter talked about the fact that isis would love to have a huge contingent of u.s. troops on the
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ground. it would kind of justify their jihad. they would love to have them there in the region. >> well we shouldn't let our strategy be driven by what a bunch of millennialists want. they have this idea, that the apocalypse is coming. they know exactly where it's going to happen. it's a small town. they name their online magazine after it. if they want to have the apocalyptic battle against the west and the russians and the turks all at once, we ought to give it to them. because they will be defeated. so that's not a reason to drive our, our efforts. i think what we're looking at realistically is how do you attack them in syria? obviously everybody agrees you have to do it with a sunni arab ground force, it can be one of two things. tucker talked about the training of the iraqi army. the iraqi army is useless. it's not lacking in training. it's lacking in motivation. it's allegiance is not to a unified iraq or to supporting the west or new ideals or
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western ideals. it's not reliable. it's a proxy of iran. that's hopeless, there are only two alternatives, the tribal sunnis, who were rallied, who were trained, who did support us in the search. that is a possibility. but how do you renew the bomb that we have with them after this president abandoned them in 2011? the other alternative is to go in the model of the gulf war. 1991. where you bring in actual contingents of sunni-arab states, like the egyptians, the jordians, the gulf states, perhaps even turkey. in the absence of that we should not be going in on the ground. >> we also heard today from house homeland security chair of the committee, mike mccall. he put a lot of blame for isis directly on president obama. and former secretary of state hillary clinton. and he added this about kind of the terminology in acknowledging where we are with isis.
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>> i think they're at war with us. i don't think this administration is at war with them. i think that's the inherent problem. they don't, they don't define the enemy. they don't, they don't see the threat the way i do. the way most americans do. and they, they are not at war with isis. and we need to be. >> tucker how important is the terminology? and having an overall effective strategy? >> it's vital. as was pointed out over the course of five novels, if you don't have the words to describe something, you can't conceive of it. words make thought possible. if you're using the wrong ones, you're likely to reach the wrong conclusions. i think the consensus on foreign policy is changing. the problem with this administration, their policies abetted chaos in the region and europe is being destroyed by it. we don't cover that too much. we should. and the west is in peril because of it. as it kind of thematic approach going forward, i do think you're going to see a shift toward the
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desire for stability first and then the fruits of democracy and civil society second. but first you need to stop chaos. because that does empower and allow the rise of the craziest elements imaginable. isis being one example, but there are others. >> domestically here we have the san bernardino killers that we've been learning more about and whether there was any formal connection to isis or just allegiance by the wife. there was a lot of questioning about her k-1 visa. whether she slipped through the cracks, if they were radicalized as far back as 2011, 2012. for him and her possibly that far back or farther. how did we miss this kirsten? they wouldn't say specifically if she had been interviewed, whether it was missed somewhere along the line. >> and i think that is the concern that people have. when they're told, don't worry, we're vetting everybody, we're spending years vetting everybody. we've got this, we're on top of this. think there's a lot of reason to be concerned. even though i am somebody who thinks that we should be letting
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refugees in and letting muslims in on visas. i think that it's a fair question to ask you know, are we, are we vetting them well enough. furthermore even if we do vet them there are people who come into the country and have kids, who then get radicalized, right? we see this with the london bombers. so i think that that is another issue that has to be seriously considered. >> and so much more we're learning about possibly the neighbor who may have supplied one of the guns, apparently he's talking with authorities in his allegedly waived his rights that may be helpful in getting to the root of this couple. up next, the 2016 race, new polling and the gop's panic over donald trump.
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the republicans can't win with trump as the nominee. and they can't win without trump supporters. so they have to handle this very delicately. this is a ross perot who doesn't take equally from democrats and republicans. perot who takes overwhelmingly from the republicans. and that's the problem that the gop has to solve before they get to november. >> we are back with our panel, we want to look at our brand new
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fox polls out of south carolina, the first southern primary important in the early voting there trump is running away with it at 35%, 20 points ahead of the nearest challenger, ben carson. and as for whether the g.o.p. needs trump worse than he needs them, here is what he had to say today about that pledge that he signed to support the nominee and whether he is going to stick with it. >> are you going to break this pledge. >> i think it's highly unlike lukely unless they break the pledge to me. >> what do you mean when you say if they break this pledge then you will break the pledge. what do you mean by that? >> if they don't treat me with a certain amount of decorum and respect. if they don't treat me as a the frontrunner by far the frontrunner. if the playing field is not level, then certainly all options are open. but that's nothing i want to do. >> charles, he didn't just leave the door ajar. sort of been kicked open
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with several comments about this pledge. >> i think that image is right. kicking open the doors of a sloan is the way i so him talking right there. what he is saying. i will decide if the terms have been observed. it's not going to be appear outside committee. this had to do with unfairness or whatever. ganging up and then he will have the option of leaving. i suspect that his ego will not -- that would restrain him from running as a third party, assuming he doesn't win the nomination because is going -- it's going to be a lot harder than he thinks. and there will be a bar, sort of an invisible bar. and i think that's going to be the ross perot number of 19%. i don't think he would come anywhere near that in a general election. and that will be his mark on history and i don't think he likes to be seen as a loser.
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the republican nomination is his shot and i think that's what he wants to go for. >> kirsten, a lot of people would disagree. he may not be able to resist. if he doesn't clinch the g.o.p. nomination, a third party run is going to be super tempting for him. >> yes. especially if he feels mistreated. that's the most important thing. of has all these people behind him who want to stay behind him. people have a very hard time walking away from things like that. i think one of the interesting things in the poll that just came out though is that they, 42% of the people they believe trump is the best person to beat hillary. this is completely disconnected from every other poll. he is and away the nbc poll has hillary beating him by 11 points. only has rubio getting beaten by 3 points. so, it's interesting that they really do believe that he has sort of -- that he is the guy that somehow is going to win when, in fact, it's probably the opposite. and i don't know if that message can get through to them or if they don't care.
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man they just want to blow up the republican party. >> another interesting poll that he is also a top of numbers today. g.o.p. candidate you would never support. he is at the top of that list too. trump is atop that followed by bush, kasich and paul. we love him the most and would never vote for him. >> i find that hilarious. too late, he is already running as the third party candidate. he rejects the most basic elements of republican orthodoxy on economics, on foreign policy. the donor class of the republican party hates him maybe more than obama, the head of the republican party denounced him personally on television yesterday. donald trump is not running as the a republican which may be part of the reason he is leading. this is a message to republicans that the acid test will be how does he fair next week and the week after as his remarks about muslim immigration sink in or digestedxby voters. i'm not sure at all us
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numbers. wreckless and imprecise in his language. move people from the syrian battlefield to the united states and hope it works out as it hasn't in europe and scandinavia. i'm not defending trump or those comments i disagree with. you have to put them in context. the obama administration is unwilling to take this seriously. he is out there but he is genuinely worried about isis. that's meaningful. >> he is not running against obama. i think he is running against rubio and cruz and jeb. i think if your calculation is he more reckless than obama, i could say well, this administration is taking us over a cliff. but, he has got a bunch of serious opposition in the republican party that i think he is not being matched up against, and i think that has to do with his persona, the bigness and brashness of it. and the fact he doesn't really care. and that's the appeal. >> one little window. you asked whether we will see more fallout from the comments about banning all
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muslims coming into the u.yy5(p@ we have a little snapshot of that inside of this new polling out of south carolina. the polling that was done before he said that, he had 30%. but the polling after those remarks, went up to 38%, kirsten. so it increased for him, at least in south carolina. >> this seems to be the dynamic that happens with him. he says things that i think everybody thinks are completely outrageous and it turns out that people like them. and that just seems to be because i think what tucker is saying is right. he has some sort of connection with people that they feel is missing with the other candidates. >> why wouldn't he? anybody who wants massive islamic immigration in the united states needs to answer a simple question, what happened to sweden. 50 years it's happened in sweden that kind of immigration. svedas are the-i swedes are the most -- what do we have to do differently you to make it work? >> that's it for the panel. up next, does repetition really work when you are trying to hammer home an idea? he wool see how president obama is hoping it does.
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finally tonight, experts say repetition of a key phrase can be be a valuable tool in getting an idea to stick. it appears president obama is convinced. >> as americans, that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. that's not what we are about. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's notçs who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> you know, that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> that's not who we are. >> no online show tonight. thanks >> it is thursday december the 10th. let's start with a fox news alert. justice for terror. the feds file charges against a
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earhardt. >> i am heather childers. great to be with you. breaking overnight the man in the san bernardino massacre expected to be indicted. >> suggesting syed farook may have been plotting to attack a high school. >> robert gray is live for us following the story. he has the latest in los angeles. tell us about this alleged plot. >> the neighbor enrique marquez is expected to be indicted this after providing substantial information to investigators about farook malik and their acquaintances. he either gave or sold farook and his wife the two ar 14 assault rifles he used to kill 14 and injure 17 last week. he was a long time friend and were related by marriage with a