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tell your doctor about all the medicines you take, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your doctor about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. >> right now on justice, standing firm. donald trump talks like a frontrunner despite a poll showing him and his unfamiliar position in iowa trailing behind senator ted cruz. >> he will never get anything done. that's the problem with ted. >> plus, talk about a missed opportunity. immigration officials reportedly don't even look at social media profiles when doing fiancee visas. guess what they may have found if they looked at hers? it's a packed hour of politics, fighting terrorism and some fun on the streets. >> you may have a black belt, but at the end of the day if he's got a gun then you got a black belt, who wins?
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>> the gun wins. that's why i am for people having legal gun rights. >> there in lies the rope. "justice starts tonight. a brand new poll out of iowa has a new leader in the gop race for the white house. i am judge jeanine pirro. thank you for joining us. a fox news poll shows ted cruz now in the lead with 28 percent of likely iowa republican caucus goers and donald trump right on his heels with 26 percent. a 2 percent margin of error. done in aed trump's campaign manager joins me. >> one of the rare interviews. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> you saw the poll, there's of course this des moines register poll out this weekend that has krudz up by 10 points over trump. however, you look at it, ted
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cruz has the lead in iowa first time for the candidates. wi is your man in trouble? >> let's look at the polls. cnn had a poll that showed trump up 13 points 33 to 20 that's on monday. i find it hard to believe the des moines register -- >> in iowa. >> iowa has trump up 13 points 33 percent to 20 percent ted cruz. >> do you think any of this was a reks a to the ban on muslims? >> i think the people of iowa has gotten to know mr. trump very well. we saw the fox news poll that is 28-26 within the margin of error. we were in iowa on friday night. we had 2,000 people. he had the massive crowds. that's what the polls don't understand. the people never participate in the process are coming out on a saturday or friday night and spending 4 or 6 hours with us to
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learn about mr. trump's message to make america great again. the pollsters don't take those into account. they don't call the people and say you never voted before. >> this des moines register poll, am i correct donald a few weeks ago trashed that newspaper before they took the poll? >> the des moines register haven't credentialed the meaning they had a poll at the beginning that said mr. trump didn't have a right to run for the. he didn't have a right to run. now he is the clear and definitive frontrunner. now they have a poll that says he is ahead. there needs to be jourm lis tick integrity here. >> the iowa caucus. 6 out of 10 people in iowa think climate change is a hoax and more than half want mass deportation of illegal immigrants. cruz's immigration stance is not as tough as trump's stance and
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the iowans seem to be going with cruz. >> senator cruz is the flavor de joer for the week. i don't think people spent a lot of time looking at his record. on the immigration issue he was in favor of increasing h1 visas by 5 percent which is an american job workers death. he will be able to make their own decision on his record. >> senator ted cruz was on megyn kelly's show this week. she asked him about a comment that he reportedly made that was not on the record but it was recorded about donald basically saying he knew if people questioned donald trump's judgment. he said it behind closed doors and when mig gwinn tried to get him to deny it this is what he said. take a listen to this. >> what i will say is the voter is make ting the determination whatever candidate who has the
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finger on the button to be commander-in-chief, to make the hard decisions to keep this country safe. what i can tell you, megyn, if i am elected president i will keep this country safe. >> he danced around it. he didn't answer the question. he didn't deny he said it. can we expect some fireworks when mr. trump and senator cruz are in the debate. >> i think people are tired of politicians who say one thing behind the closed doors and one thing in front of the public. you don't get that with donald trump. you get the same donald trump every time. maybe people don't always like it but it is the truth. when he brings out an issue like we have these illegals coming across the border it is time to build a wall everybody says boy that's terrible you can't do that. the american people say you are right. let's protect our citizens. politicians are all talk and no action. this is what is fundamentally wrong with washington, d.c. this he go behind closed doors, they don't get anything done they can't get a deal done and they come ought and say we did a
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great job for you. it doesn't work. people are tired of it. >> you know people are going to try to get cruz and trump in a battle. >> they tried to do it with -- >> donald, he does not back down. >> he is a puncher. any candidate who has attacked donald trump has gone down in the polls from rick perry to scott walker from rand paul. what people have to understand he's ready to lay his vision out he has done that so many times on so many interviews. to tell people what to do. if you hit donald trump he is going to hit back hard. >> governor huckabee won the iowa caulk tcus in 2008. religion clearly plays a big role in iowa. what we hear is that maybe donald questioned the senator's religion.
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does iowa see ted cruz -- >> mr. trump if you look at the cross tabs in the cnn polls it is exactly even with ted cruz with evelle gal christians. it is safe that they know senator trump very well. he is also a pastor of some nature. maybe he has that built in with a constituency but cdonald trum is more than one person voter. chairman of the political organization go pack david avela. u long believed donald trump will not be the republican presidential nominee. are we seeing the beginning of your prediction? >> what we are seeing, judge, is ted cruz planned every day for this moment. every decision they have made including announcing at liberty university looking at iowa caulk
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tus vo cu -- caucus voters. we are on the third round of why republicans don't nominate outsiders. if you look at what cruz has done he has a county chairman in every county in not just iowa in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. every event you go to at a cruz event there are aids there taking down your name, taking down information. >> he has a good team. you know donald trump has -- he has a mega phone. it is called earned media. we have gone through this. he doesn't have to pay for it. yet at the same time in the national polls donald is still beating everyone else. >> sure. look, there's no question. there are 12 other people that would love to trade spots with mr. trump. his message does resinate with republican voters and it is a factor that republicans across the spectrum should be looking
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at it there planning their message and trying to understand what it is republican voters why they are rekt aing the way they are this year. you know this judge. there are people fired up to hear a message and turning out at an iowa caucus or turning out in new hampshire. maybe there will be this influx of new voters who have never voted in a republican caucus or never voted in a primary in new hampshire or south carolina. it would be unprecedented. that's what mr. trump has to do. >> let me ask you this. in 2008 huckabee won the iowa kuk cuss. he didn't make it to be the candidate. i believe in 2012 rick santorum won. he didn't make it to be the republican nominee. why do we pay so much attention to iowa?
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>> juk, you m -- judge, you may governor romney was declared the winner in iowa and he went on to win new hampshire as well, and we in recent history have always nominated the person declared the victor in the first three contests. americans love winners. it is the early momentum you get by getting those early victories that has in recent history always propelled that candidate to go on to become our party's nominee. >> are you now backing ted cruz? >> you know i am not doing that. trying to give an unbiased opinion of where we see the contest. i think you look at where senator cruz is, he is in a good position. as i said a few seconds ago there are 12 different candidates who would like to trade positions with mr. trump and be where he is. senator rubio is doing a good job of threading the needle of having the anti establishment
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message having never been the favorite of the establishment, but also winning establishment support in many of the things he has done whether it is taking on obamacare or some of the american dream success story he is able to talk about. look we have a healthy debate here. >> i need to jump in. they are telling me in 2012 it was santorum in iowa. that's neither here nor there. let's talk about the debate this tuesday. what do you expect to see. we have christofilakos tee on the stage. is this going to be a make or break for any one in particular? >> you are right. he did win. he romney was declared the victor on election night. it a wasn't until a couple months later that romney waudz finally -- that santorum was finally declared the winner. no one is going to get out prior to iowa short of someone being
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out of money and wanting to do the honorable thing and not going into getten debt and leave their staff and spall businesses high and dry and not having money. at this point we are so close to io iowa. >> with me is former advisor to hillary clinton's 2008 campaign and democratic strategist richard goodstein. is hillary clinton relaxing somewhere? we haven't seen her in a while. where has she been. >> i have a hump she is not unhappy about the focus on donald trump and ted cruz the two people i suspect she would like to run against. she has been talking about how shameful donald trump's position is on banning a muslim. she gave a very complete speech to council on foreign relations about what to do about isis.
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>> she won't use the term radical islamists either. isn't there a point where you are so politically correct most people don't believe what you are saying. >> what she said is it doesn't really matter what we call osama bin laden it matters that we killed osama bin laden. she wants to avoid getting dragged into the exact fight isis wants. >> what makes you think isis is worried about us saying mean things about them. they wanted to kill us before we even talked about that. >> donald trump chris wallace said we have to enlist muslims. that was the fwu things i heard them say i agree with. how are we going to enlist muslims if people abroad think they are not wanted here. >> he said muslim who's are not american citizens coming into the country a temporary halt. he did not say we don't want muslims here.
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he said he is in business with muslims, what are you talking about? >> remember he said not long ago we have to have a catalog a list of all of the muslims in the u.s. if if you are a muslim in the united states you listen to donald trump's rhetoric -- >> i am talking hillary clinton right now. i want you to take a listen to this. after the president's overly office address to the nation last week she said this in regard to the president's plan regarding isis. take a listen. >> i was really happy he made the address. i thought it was important for him to address the nation. you know, i think his take on what nee to be done is close cou to mind. >> you know what's amazing about that sound right there is that 23 percent of this country thinks that the president has no clear plan for fighting isis,
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and 66 percent believe -- 23 percent says he has a plan. 63 percent says he doesn't have a plan. so why would this country elect a president who agrees with a plan we don't believe will work or is even a real plan? >> hillary cloin ton laid out a crystal clear plan. we have to attack them through the air with the coalition that makes the coalition willing to george bush together lack like a joke. this one barack obama pulled together includes france, u.k., canada and a bunch of arab states none of which were involved in the iraq war. second we have to attack them on the ground not with u.s. ground troops because that's what isis wants. third we have to tackle them on-line. they have a shot through the kind of virtual community out there and that is something to keep very clear we need to cleep clamps on. the other thing she is saying is
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we need to do something about gun control. i know that is not something the viewers agree with. ask jim co me the police chief friends whether they think it is better to have more people armed or fewer. >> i don't even have to ask them. i tell you what, if you go to the president's own home town, chicago, the only people who have guns are the people who are the criminals. the only people who have guns are the people who have them illegally. it is the murder capitol in the country. don't push that on us. this isn't about gun control it is about isis, radical islamists wanting to kill us. she won't even call them that. i don't think that's going to help her get to the white house. >> we have to be defeated not contained. have to be defeated. she has laid out crystal clear
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about how to do this. not one takes specific issue about with what she is saying other than the terminology. >> she even said i agree with president obama's plan 66 percent of americans say the guy doesn't have a plan. >> she laid out her specific plan it is the kind of plan the voters will agree makes a lot of sense. >> we have many months to discuss this. thanks so much for being with us tonight. >> she wrote about jihad on facebook. why didn't immigration officials look attash fein malik's social media rantings before they let her into this country. next i talk live with a former fbi boss about what's not included in the visa background checks. plus where did all of the violent extremism start and why? a prominent muslim author is here to talk about that with me as well. judge is back in a moment.
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>> there is a hero in washington who is repeatedly at odds with the narrative that this administration keeps shoving down our throats. he's not getting the support he needs to protect us, and you need to pay attention and support him. his name, jim comey. i worked with him when he was united states attorney in the southern district of new york. he is not only brilliant, he is honest, hard-working and he comes from a long line of law enforce: politics plays no role in his decisions. he is in it for all of the right reasons. just ask this person. >> to know jim comey is to know spiritual independence and deep integrity. >> mr. president you need to let this man do his job. >> you heard my opening statement director of -- assistant director of the fbi in
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new york. they are clearly at odds with each other about everything from black lives matter to prison release to sentencing reform to the ability to represent refugees to the k 1 visas. it seems everything that has gone on in washington pits the two of them against each other. am i wrong here? >> thank god jim comey is there. he takes an oath of the constitution to protect the people of this country. he doesn't take a note to the democratic party or republican party that's his history. i have nor hin a long time. he is going to do what's write for the people. >> seems he is fearless it seems disagreeing with the white house. i saw something interesting when loretta lynch went out with him he was talking about the terror attack with san bernardino. i couldn't help thinking maybe she was there and couldn't gone
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too far. the biggest fear is the anti muslim rhetoric may be leigh to go violence. do you think his speeches are reviewed by the white house? >> no, i don't believe so. >> all right. >> we know there was problems with the k 1 visas with tash people mal -- tashfeen malique. we know the social media postings are not used in k 1 visas. people coming in the questions that are asking are do you seek to engage in terrorist activiti activities. do you intend to provide money to terrorist groups. >> every lawyer in this country is looking at young people's social media postings. if we know anything from history from boston bombers they are putting their hatred of us on social media. is it wrong? oo i have talked a long time
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with you and others we look at other hoops in social media. it is unnecessary hoops. >> plus staffing. >> they should hire like a thousand rich kids. put them in front of the shoes, get a huge building and put computer screens, right? >> yeah. do a little background on them. they could wut out some good products. >> this is a great idea. social media postings and the amazing things is they have background checks. the president says we have vigorous vetting. she has never been in the country before you think you are going to catch her with petty larce larceny? >> you can get a whole new identity for $100 anywhere. on regular bapaper. give $100 to somebody in the
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passport office in some of the countries and she will give y you -- they will give you a new identity. that is legend. they have the actual real paper, the real stuff. it is meaningless. >> what do we do? there was a syrian pass tort a terrorist among the syrian refugees. >> trump had it right. we need to take a pause because it is a joke. when the national security advisor came out. the deputy national security advisor. whatever. >> he came out and said we have all of these layers those layers are bogus. we don't have any idea who the people are. the president is very interested
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in slging in country with people in the middle east for some reason. >> do you believe that? >> for some reason. i am not going to say what the reason is. if there's some reason why this is happening. why aren't the christians coming into this country and why aren't some of the others who are being massacred. >> they are. we have a lot of great muslims. look at all of the muslims on the new york pd. that's a classic example of people should know. there's a couple hundred of them. >> why aren't they speaking out? >> saudi arabia funds the radicals in the united states. they fund the madras schools that's the wahhabists. that's the violent sect. the funds in iran the things that kills our troops and that crazy deal.
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they are responsible for killing. when you look at the people killed, and if you understand iraq high percentage of these people were killed in iran. you add saudi arabia. >> what do we do here? do we go into the mosques and surveil the mosques? >> you go where people take you. political correctness is going to kill us, is going to kill americans. it already has. it will continue to. with weapons of mass destruction, that is not something we should take lightly. >> always good to have you here my friend. >> neighbors saw something suspicious and told police about it. next we will talk about why political correctness is killing the country and the people who live here. live here. don't go i have great credit. how do you know? duh.
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. live from america's news headquarters i'm kelly wright. good evening, voters in france turning out for the regional election. sarkozy saying he's proud of his party showing current president hollande winning five. meantime, in saudi arabia, women voted and ran for office in the first time in that nation's history. 20 women were elected to municipal councils. it is seen as a step forward for women, who are still not afraid to drive in saudi arabia. i'm kelly wright. now back to justice with judge jeanine. judge
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jeanine. >> if you see something, say something. right? wrong. according to the liberal left that's i don't think. how can it be wrong if it saves lives? joining me now is executive vice president jim hanson. good evening, jim. >> good to be with you, judge. >> neighbors of tash people malik and syed farook said they were suspicious of men carrying boxes into the garage at night. although they said something they said nothing for fear of being politically incorrect. how do you interpret that? >> i interpret that as a national response to a dedicated campaign by group's light hacar and the rest of the dproups whose knob is to shut people up talking about it.
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>> you don't want to be called a hater and be ostracized. it is an effective campaign right now it is caused terrorist attack and problem in the future. >> i am sure you know about this, a mayor from irving texas has been served with a $5 million demand letter and she is essentially being blamed for a school reporting to police what they thought could be a bomb in what's known as a clock boyd case. are we at the point where every time someone says something they are going to be silenced not only jim by the political on the council of islamic relations care. >> they didn't have to chase the ambulance to get the case. they were driving it.
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the father and the boy were out there talking to them. they were able to shut down or slow down an islamic try punal they tried to set up in the city of irving, texas. they attacked her for that and attacked her for the school reacting normally. that thing looked like a bomb. i know. special forces built briefcase bombs that's what they looked like. they should not be punished for knowing what was a danger for children in the school and acting appropriately. >> you know what? the truth is once it was determined it was not what it was suspected to be then that should be the end of it. they are suing for 5 million. it's interesting what you are saying, jim. that is that she had a history with care. she tried to prevent sharia law from being imposed in her community and she is one of the ones that belief in learn laws for american courts and she is being punished by it. it tells me sharia law is
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already here. >> it is here but what's worse there's a campaign to spread it further. the nation's top law enforcement officer attorney generaller rote taw lynch said after the san bernardino shooting and they could be prosecuted. it is a threat to free speech for attorney general. my friends asked me are you worried about what you say on television? are you worried she might come after you. pleads come after me. that would be a lot of fun. >> isn't it interesting we are talking about the first amendment. there is this effort to stop people from saying something about a particular group. can we don't see the rage about people being murdered in their own communities. this is in congress. it makes no sense to me.
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>> what they are not concerned about and should be is the imams preaching in mosques preaching in hate. grab the gun grab the sword and write in allah. they did that and attacked police with a knife. have you heard that about a mosque not a bit. >> with me now the author of standing alone in america, an american women struggle -- standing alone. an american women's struggle for the soul of islam azra. thank you for being with us tonigh tonight. you are an expert on this issue. tashfeen maliqk spent a lot of time in saudi arabia though she was from pakistan. jim kallstrom formerly with the fbi talked about the wahhabis
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and what's going on over there? >> the title of the book was originally standing alone in mecca. it is relevant to your question, because is in mecca and is it from mecca and exported to the world the ideology of islam called wahhabism. called policyism. tried to take us back to the birth of islam to this rigged very strict ivent tation of isl -- interpretation of islam. that's what the hijacker of the 911 attack and so many members of the islamic state ascribe to. for me i came from india. my mother wore the full face veil that is required of women in saudi arabia. my grandmother her mother in law pulled the veil off her face because she didn't agree with the interpretation of islam. we practiced a different type of islam.
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over my lifetime over these last 50 years what i have seen is this exportation of the saudi ideology into the far corners of our country and the world. >> let's talk about the fact that the liberal peed yaw is not criticizing this islamic conservative sharia law interpretation that you are talking about. when you stone women for committing add cull tree can you explain why the liberals the left is not objecting to this instead of saying we have got to protect everybody and everybody should believe in whatever they want. >> it breaks my heart judge jeanine. i am a feminist, i am a secular person. i am brokenhearted by the fact that the values of liberalism are not extended to issues related to islam. i brought here this book, women
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in the shade of islam. i know domestic violence was a really important issue for you and is an important issue. this was printed by the government of saudi arabia. it tells men how they can beat their wives. don't put black and blue marks on their faces, but it's the submissive woman who likes to be beaten. this election in saudi arabia, sure it's a great success, but at the end of the day it's a gender ar apartheid state. when i call upon my federal liberals to do is apply islam and to listen the same values they have for the rest of the world. then we can come to the middle and we can come to a place where we are not dealing with issues in denial and we are not dealing with issues with demonization but coming up with common ground where we can have reporting with
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the fbi. >> in terms of whether it's a leftist leaning or liberal philosophy, isn't it up to the muslims, the normal ordinary muslims to make demands on the highest religious order to say we have got to stop this killing, we have to stop where it is killing us gays or women or the infidel christians and other muslims? >> absolutely. to see something, say something edict that we have in the u.s., we have it in the qur'an stand up for justice even if it is against your own kin. we have a presidential mandate when president obama told us the muslims to challenge the ideology of extremism i am proud to ance nouns we started an organization of braver reformers called the muslim reform movement. we are posting our precepts for
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peace, human rights and secular governance. the first place we go the embassy, the mosque of saudi arabia. >> thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> gun control k 1 visas the obama administration, it is all up tore debate when i hit the streets at one of the world's streets at one of the world's biggest tourist spots next. ♪ ♪ gonna blow their minds this year ♪ ♪ ho ho ho. ♪ mmm mmm mmm mm mmm mm mmmmm reporter: uh, is that likeonize car cars.com?nd repair.
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are you worried? >> one word no, one word yes. >> is the government doing enough to protect us? >> no. >> is the government doing enough to protect us? >> i think they could do a lot more. >> some what. >> are you worried about anything? >> no, because i have god in my life. >> me, too. >> it has me scared. as an american citizen as a erk noer i am scared. what -- new yorker, i am scared. >> wasn't do you think they need to do? >> you don't have a problem if you see something say something. >> i am a hired cop. >> you cannot live with your fears. you have got to go out and go what you want to do. i don't think you should be opposed to muslims because there's a few bad ones. no more than you should be opposed to gun owners because there's a few bad ones. >> i am not a gun owner buzz i considered going to my gun license than i see in this,
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seeing everything that goes on. >> i have watched for many years,>> you may have a black belt but at the end of the day you have got a gun. >> i am for people having legal guns. >> there in lies the rump. >> you know karate. i know crazy. >> chicago is the murder rate -- the murder capitol of this country and guns are illegal there. it is only the criminals who have them. >> i am looking at the british>> except you are here in the united states. what are you going to do to protect yourself from the people who are victims. >> so new york, why do you think tle r they are not doing enou enough>> i don't think they are protecting us. >> don't you worry when you hear in order to get a k 1 visa you
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have to answer the question are you a terrorist? no. have you ever been a member of a terrorist organization? is that a screening? >> they definitely need to do more. there are certainly think things you need to do. >> anybody who would be associated with the terror network cell they would integrate themselves into society. >> stuff like this happens, stuff happens here, stuff happens in france, you see it on ba facebook. it is showing apathy, sich the but the bottom line is you have to take the real issues in consideration. >> i think there's more mention that needs to be taken. the question is do they want the measures taken in their freedoms? >> compromised. >> how do we convince people to stop being politically correct. if they see something, say something. >> you will never stop them from being inpolitically correct.
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>> and now for the results of tonight's poll. do you think donald trump's muslim ban comments helped or hurt him. sandy says it helped him. showed it wants to keep americans safe. hey, tanner, hear of the first amendment. tonya, no, it didn't hurt him. anyone with an iq over iraq realizes there is more to the sentence. get that, over iraq. iraq. that was a double entendre. amy says i was backing trump, but one too far. can't alien mate muslims. there are some muslims who agree with donald trump. and thanks for the great
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