>> merry christmas this is "outnumbered". i am andrea tantaros and with the is harris falkner, host of kennedy on fox business, a kennedy, editor of townall.com, katie pavlik and one lucky guy, a veteran trial attorney and fox news legal analyst peter johnson jr. and you are "outnumbered" on this christmas. merry christmas. >> merry christmas, everybody at home. >> like the cat in low window. >>the window.

>> you are human mistletoe. the candy cane tie doesn't hurt either. >> let's talk politics, what goes better with gifts than this gift, the first nominating contest a month away, the republican candidates stepping into high gear with donald trump and ted cruz running neck-and-neck in the first state of iowa and from the meeting in new hampshire and nationally, the campaign trail will be busy the next couple weeks. and the iowa caucuses coming of february 1st there will be no break than early state tv ads and campaign stops over the holidays, not even full week between christmas and new year's. what do candidates need to do over the next couple weeks? >> i don't know. donald trump seems indefatigable. he seems unstoppable. he seems like a runaway locomotive. two issues. one, elect ability, he can't win

the general election, the argument they need to make, and number 2, who will claim the moral high ground in politics in america? the moral high ground in politics, a campaign based on division and hate and the worst aspects of american culture. so if somebody on a moderate side of the republican party wants to win that is what they will talk about, moral high ground and collectibility. they will have a tough go of it at this point. he is very strong. a tough sell for all of these. >> how have moderate republicans done? that really a question i'd don't know the answer to but i am curious when you talk about trying to get -- to moderate this, take it down. >> in terms of john mccain i guess he lost, mitt romney lost. so history has shown that.

the it at this point in terms of the numbers is we take an unpredictable loose cannon candidate who stands for a lot of different things, a funds a lot of groups that a lot of times and somehow that will catapult him to the presidency. a good portion of the republican electorate believes that but the republican party has to decide whether they can win with donald trump. the question was how do these others win? i am giving them arguments that i not espousing the arguments. >> if you look at candidates the republican party put forward they put together moderate losers. they lost these elections sun valley is almost as if it is out of the party's hands. that polling in iowa, i love your thoughts on this, you see ted cruz leading, donald trump second, which tells me even though they have darren stiles, the anti-establishment candidate. >> we have seen throughout the last year, whether it was pre

announcement and getting into -- way too early for the presidential race with these candidates that the ones outside the establishment weather senators who were supposedly not suppose the qualified because they were only there for one term but seen as outside is doing well, donald trump has done well, this is a phenomenon we have seen 3d years, what we saw in 2010 when the tea party movement was alive and well and took over the house of presented as in a historic victory, we sought this in the 2014 midterm election when republicans took over the senate with a lot of candidates that were outsiders to the party, repeatedly had no chance of winning, marco rubio's run when he was running for the senate republican party wasn't backing him. it was the conservative grassroots efforts, marco rubio elected in florida, and we have seen this over a couple years, is not brand-new. >> very different because it is not a midterm but similar feeling of anger. they don't want the pc culture

and week sought the election focus on immigration over the summer and got into prime towards the end of the summer and foreign policy and terrorism ended does seem that is the battle in the republican party, you see the fault line between marco rubio and jeb bush and ted cruz and donald trump. >> the immigration issue was forced into the election by donald trump. the rest of it has been unfortunate events the plate into the hands of donald trump and ted cruz who has capitalized on that but you look at rand paul, marco rubio and ted cruz, people fooled into office on the backs of tea party grass roots, very enthusiastic passionate but disenfranchise republicans and marco rubio has gone to be more of an establishment candidate banking on the fact that he can be a safe bet for establishment republicans that ted cruz who i think is the only one of the

three who has figured out how to be an outsider but gather more support which is why you are seeing him peak. >> can i ask about leading up to the last sort of fox news debate, there's one more and one more in january, very important but that ground game of the candidates, now it is time for candidates to focus on where they can win. >> donald trump is an e enigma. remember the video recently where they went to campaign headquarters in iowa, a place you could roll a bowling ball through. when you look at polling, in some holding ted cruz is ahead but when you look at national polling he's not hurting you will need a ground game eventually. we don't know what it will look like. he is one of the few the we don't have an idea. carly fiorina considered an outsider but from what i am seeing she has some infrastructure in place. we will be watching for that and the momentum. somehow donald trump manages to build momentum before every debate.

can he do it? >> will it matter where it matters most which is in the polling place and will he take the momentum and turn it into a primary victory? >> hard time beating it. >> now we are going to flip it to the democrats. election watchers say hillary clinton is acting like she already won renominate and for president. in the democratic debate she seemed to be making a case aimed at swing voters particularly in her closing argument or statement where she sounded like she skipped a few months forward contrasting herself to gop critics, may be forgetting a few things like the real threat she still faces from democratic rival bernie sanders, particularly in new hampshire. also affect the we are still awaiting one more document relating her e-mail server scandal. which some say could pose some trouble. we don't know what the fbi has in this investigation. >> hillary clinton and donald

trump has a lot in common. there's momentum they both have that will be difficult to stop. the e-mail will not mean much going forward. >> fbi investigation? >> i think it is going to fall by the wayside. i don't think it should but i think it is going to fall by the wayside. bernie sanders is not a threat became out in that debate over the weekend and apologized for breaking into data don't by the dnc and hillary clinton. now he is apologizing for things that she should be apologizing for. >> on awkward moment. >> an awkward moment for that dnc as well. look at a press conference, bernie sanders's attorneys had last week, they were slamming the dnc saying what we have known all along, they are in the tank for hillary clinton. the only thing that can change the momentum of the democrats side is if hillary clinton is indicted. i think an indictment would

change things but i don't know how long that is going to take. the fbi director says politics will play a role in his decision, we will see. >> only charged with a misdemeanor and is like this is a political witch hunt and her followers believe the messiah and she goes on to win the nomination i think a felony indictment spells real trouble. my only question is before she goes to trial or pleads can the president pardon her? she is only indicted? >> excellent question but the other question is would he want that to be his legacy gq you have obamacare and a lot of things, i don't know if pardoning the next president from a crime is where he would want to -- >> where we are in american politics. >> election messaging with candidates in the past. what do you tell hillary clinton at this point? you can put on i am trying to help hillary clinton win hat.

here is my point. if you are the inevitable candidate and don't get challenged and you have democratic debate against the playoffs, are you going to be sharp enough to come out fighting? against potentially donald trump who loves to fight. >> whether hillary clinton is indicted or not peter is right. is not going to matter. democrats of gone on record that they are circling the wagons, a 60 minute interview, bernie sanders is not a serious person. he can't take him seriously. during one debate he said he is sick of hearing about the e-mails and then he apologized to hillary clinton comedies having messaging schizophrenia. forget what he is saying and look where the super is a the delegates are, she has got them. democrats should change their name to the plutocrats, no such thing as democracy, they have nothing to do with democracy but hillary clinton is a bad candidate. she is not good, she is losing blue collar voters.

>> the media is in the tank. >> president obama stand up and -- >> donald trump and blue collar workers and what not which may have tipped his hat. >> the left has been terrible with immediately she has been awful with immediately she wrote these people together, so even though a lot of them a share the same ideology but they are so disgruntled that it is going to be a similar thing to what you're seeing. >> and merry christmas. some people have -- not this time. beam may be a lame duck but the president has a lot of wants to do like closing guantanamo bay, executive action and guns and help out the democratic presidential nominee which we were just talking about could be hillary clinton. will be fulfilled the wish list that he has? will republicans try to counter him? we will talk about it all and merry christmas or is it happy holidays? which do americans prefer and how many americans celebrate

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>> beautiful syncing. it looks a lot like christmas to do, they call the spirit inside. and celebrate christmas including 81% of non christians, 51% say religious holiday for them, to the endless debate to bed when asked if they prefer to be greeted at stores with happy holidays or merry christmas 46% say it really doesn't matter. 42% choose christmas. 12% said a happy holidays. what are your thoughts? >> i would rather not be greeted in the stores because that means i have to buy something, some relationship with the sales person. i walk around the side and stuff like that.

do you need anything? >> what about other places? happy holidays merry christmas? >> i'm delighted to hear merry christmas from folks. i don't want to offend someone by saying merry christmas to them if they don't believe in christmas. and they take it as a religious statement on my part. trying to proselytize them. i love being a christian, love being a roman catholic, i love christmas and i love today. >> what about happy thanksgiving? there are people come here and don't know what that is about. even then. >> when you look at the polling, 91%, 80% of people celebrating, think of sending them is that minority of people being offended a you should say whatever you want. >> for a long time in the war against the war on christmas, i

have been abused for it for many years. >> you are counterinsurgency. >> you know why 92% of people celebrate christmas? because it is fun. christmas is a fun time of year, going to parties, baking cookies, getting presents. >> don't you think it is because people are forced into it? you can't go anywhere after halloween where there is not some hanging silver red and green and making you feel you better hop on, half of people say it is religious and those who go to church around the holidays, for a lot of people it is commercialize so much you feel like the outcast. >> i don't have my first not what they until the turkeys cooled and let the turkey cool, you can use the hash tag, until after thanksgiving to celebrate christmas. >> my wife is big on that. >> let it be special.

>> they force it down your throat. it is like can you imagine not wanting to be part of the commercial last christmas, santa -- your picture with me. >> they are not forcing anything down this road. i am with you, i do not celebrate before thanksgiving. are also use resistance to not get sucked in the >> how does it work? >> i look around and we have a big family and we spend so much time racing around, we used to, buying gifts and spending money on each other when there is nothing that we need so we decided to use the money we have and put it in a big pool and do some thing is i'd donate to a military family. and you get more time to relax and appreciate being with your family on christmas and remembering what it really is about and that is the birth of jesus christ and that is what is important. >> last night -- >> we can't because there is more.

is it ok to allow christian symbols on government property? something people were polled about. 44% say yes even if other religious symbols are not included, 28% say only of other religious symbols are included the >> the government owns too much land in nevada, wyoming and utah, therefore that doesn't make sense because you would have any christmas symbols anywhere. there are plenty of private places to have religious symbols. i am not offended by it. it upsets me when there is the crusade against nativity scenes which are quite beautiful, have a nativity scene next to a star of david, why not? >> that is how we do it in my household. we will move on. the president with a long to do list for the final year of his term and what is on that list, republicans will try to stop him from completing it and how the state of the union address is scheduled to be a very different sort of affair.

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>> live from america's news headquarters, survivors across three states are counting their blessings this christmas, deadly storm swept across the south. storms and tornadoes killed 14 across mississippi, tennessee and arkansas, left dozens of homes damaged or destroyed. one woman who is now homeless as, quote, she is just happy to be alive after the devastation.

in other news pope francis's delivered a christmas day prayer for peace speaking to thousands of faithful from the balcony of st. peter's basilica, the holy father called for end to war and suffering and conflicts around the world including in africa, the middle east and ukraine. he spoke of the horrific terrorist attack that hit paris last month. we will see you at the top of the hour for more news. now back to "outnumbered". ♪ >> merry christmas, the president now facing of the final year of his term and his last state of the union address scheduled for january 12th, the white house says mr. obama will deliver a, quote, nontraditional address, more of a conversation with the american people, the white house releasing something of a 2016 to do list including closing the president's

guantanamo bay, executive action on guns, getting congress to sign off on the trade agreement, criminal-justice reform and of course visiting cuba. hitting the campaign trail for the democratic nominee and moving ahead with a clean power initiative and climate change implementation. that is quite a wish list and the reason he doesn't have to do policy pitches at the state of the union is he's going these executive action and circumvent congress. >> will be nontraditional. conversation takes listening. what will be nontraditional, never listen to anything anyone said. they said a lot of people, the change in america, he went to the race card at the immediately and talks about being the first african-american president and scientist and racism, i have seen it in new york city and elected leaders, but that is not the reason he is having a hard problem. a lot of americans say you are on the wrong path.

what will he say on terror? was asked about terrorism this weekend he says i agree with the justice department, domestic terrorism, non islamic terrorism, a bigger problem than the war on terrorism. for a guy who has priority so wrong on want to hear what this conversation is about. >> will be a man in the mirror moment, he doesn't care what anyone has to say or whether they stand up and clap for him or not, i do expect we better buckle up. >> interesting to look at the list we have on screen and look at how many things the president is opposite the american people on the american people don't want more gun control, for the first time ever in the history of the country americans believe ben wright should be protected over morgan control at this point. the american people did not want gitmo close please the american people who are suffering in the economy don't want the trade

agreement signed because it benefits for workers and not domestic workers, when you look at the list of things he is making a priority in his last year as president of the united states, is progressive based, nothing to do with listening to the majority of the american people. >> what is a side dish for lame-duck? >> sweet sauce. the ticket can next to potatoes. there are a couple things that were on the list. immigration. it is interesting. perhaps the president would have some difficulty adding that conversation. the death in san francisco, the reasons and bernardine no killer, they couldn't make it through of fiancee these application in vetting. la whole idea of how many refugees to that in from the syrian war and how many we are not, some changing numbers. i would love to hear what the conversation would be on that. as citizens can we add to this?

>> those issues, immigration and foreign policy are very very challenging for president obama, even though they are important legacy items for him, with stroll out of iraq as immigration reform, i don't think he wins his legacy by making that the hallmark of the next couple months, he will do what he can do to placate the base but benefit himself because the other issues don't held. >> i agree with him on trade. we went to certainly encourage free trade because free trade lifts people out of poverty across the globe. that is one thing i will give him credit for. criminal justice reform, bipartisan issue and if he does it smart, does it right the country will be in a better place. the rest of it is hogwash dipped in malarkey. strong language on such a beautiful day. this president is off base especially when it comes to things like gun control, people want to be safer, want to feel better, it is all about his legacy, the iran deal for him,

middle east peace deal, couldn't get the palestinians and israel together so this -- >> put together obama's christmas meal, it was lame duck with weeks off and hogwash malarkey. yummy. >> what are we watching? >> elf on a shelf year. a new survey shows just one in four american workers expect a raise. of those who do a anticipate the extra income just 17% plan to spend that money on christmas gifts. one economist saying, quote, the relatively low percentage of workers with a pay raise or holiday bonus reflects still impaired job market. the reason they don't plan to spend it is vague view it as one time temporary. if they felt it was more permanent they would be more

likely to spend more of it. isn't this just an example of where the government has to get out of the way. they have to get out of the way with keeping industry so incredibly low, having an affect on the stock market, has an affect on whether people can borrow money and cripple businesses in some anyways. >> i have seen you say on your show. 25 basis points, a quarter of 1% and they have trepidation about doing it. more people have given up on the job market at any time in american history, more people not sure whether they will keep their jobs over time. real income has decrease over the last decade. i am not going to see a raise or a bonus, will i have my job next year, the economic growth in the country is infinity as.

even the stock market -- >> the last quarter of the year raise a quarter point last week, something we saw. some of the games we had this year, one thing reported a loss on fox business is the fact the we are due for another recession. it is a cyclical thing where we are going and because we have done an anemic job coming out of the last one people are fearful and by people i mean small businesses which do the majority of hiring, you won't see pay raise is out of this because they're bracing for a couple things, texas coming down the road from obamacare and the unknown as we did into a cyclical and normal for and economy recession and keep interest rates at zero and put no urgency in the market, for people to buy homes and take a chance. maybe by a little movement you might do it but the timing is dicey. >> no one is making money on their money.

a foundation built -- the bubbled is going to burst for many of these markets but for people who haven't felt the least since 2008 -- >> the new normal unfortunately. really a tragedy, a lot of people in washington d.c. on both sides of the political aisle, seeing if things are better when they are not, when you going to real america and talk small-business owners and to maybe you had to fire employees or they lost their business completely and that is their life's work and it is a tragedy. and sold by washington d.c.. >> when will the presidential candidates get the message the we need less government and not more to get that beautiful engine of small business running. >> hard with this news cycle because you have foreign policy shift to issue no. one but also immigration. they are economic issues, the

costs of importing in number of refugees, thousands of refugees, the cost of immigration on the entitlement programs, the entitlements alone for refugees is a multimillion-dollar is, republicans would be smart to tie every issue including war and costs of war back to the economy. that is not the main issue. we just have janet yellen raising rates, there's uncertainty, lack of confidence, obamacare is a huge part of that, thes premiums are going up. they told us recovery summer has been anything but. >> i agree with that but i am ready for you to have that very merry christmas. i forgot my homework, will you go home and get it? some experts say the way to help your kid is to say no. we will debate it next. who wants to try??hp before earning enough cash back from bank of america

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result in stunted kids who never adapt to the world around them. it is the end of the world, beat your children, make sure they go to the depths, to the abyss of life, then pull them back after they have been jailed, that is the time to save your children. >> holy cow. >> you messed up, you are out of here. >> what happened? >> took it back. is it about judgment? so your kid leaves homework at home and has happened a couple times. my daughter at school, you get a little push across the board, gets you away from a privilege at school or whatever and consequences at home for having forgotten that homework.

that is different from the championship game. teaching them they can depend on you in hard times, taking that ball to the championship game. it is about judgment. >> i don't think that is the only way to create independence. knowing -- when i was in third grade, we both got matching red disco pants, my best friend in third grade, and i wasn't to school and she chickened out and everyone made fun of me mercilessly. i was -- they gather around me and poking fun and i told my mom and she brought some beige pants and completely saved my self-esteem. i will never forget that moment and there are other positive ways for your child to learn independence and not necessarily letting them fail. >> i was always very grateful. at the time when you are a child

whether you are a small child or middle school or high school and forget your homework, but said when your parents don't bring it or your teacher doesn't allow you to turn in your turn paper wheat. when you get to be an adult and get to the real world you look back and go i am glad i paid those consequences because i learned. i was on the volleyball team in high school and if you forgot your shoes you're not playing the game, the matter what kind of game it was, if it was the stage and be injured, you didn't play because you were responsible to yourself and the team. that teaches people how to be responsible in life. >> it depends on the situation, moderation. there was no easy route in my mediterranean household, no excuses at all. but if i worked hard on not science project at 4 got the science project because i was working late in a restaurant the night before i could get my mom to turn around and get the car, the differences if i was running late and missed the bus, we are not writing you, you are on your own. i think it has to be a judgment

call. even now i forget my research and notes for "outnumbered" and i just have to go wing it, you are smart enough to remember the facts on your own and do it yourself and i have to do it. >> my children know how to drive. >> independent. >> helping strangers, i should tell my kid. >> not here on "outnumbered". >> you are a good dad, we have one in the studio -- >> introduce me -- >> turned out great, maybe we should follow your lead. 1-size-fits-all parenting. >> despite all the calories we may pack on this holiday season that i did yesterday and today many will opt to ditch the diet in the new year. what a new study says about how americans are choosing to lose weight these days. and who says the battle of the sexes is over? we will tell you who is really

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>> happy holidays to all my friends and family in mississippi. >> week love those guys, merry christmas to everyone serving overseas and at home. many americans will vow to lose weight in the new year but many will do it without dieting and opt for a healthy lifestyle instead leading going into a new survey 90% believe it is better to meet well by and -- beat a well bias diet than used by product and also showing people sticking to their diets as a result, food and fitness companies are turning the focus from weight loss benefits to promoting an overall lifestyles that is sustainable. you wear a triathlete, you eat healthy food to this day in your try at least adventures. they do these crash diets. >> that is what they learn over

and over again, diet after diet and it makes you much less healthy if you are awake yo-yos, they look at friends with longer-term success, i am gluten free because i have celiac disease but gluten free fat is something that helps a lot of people lose weight. not that they are not eating bread but they are not eating pizza with cheese and pepperoni, bagels with four ounces of cream cheese but these longer-term global changes you make to your diet, exercising half an hour a day, cutting out carbonated beverages, going gluten free, things like that that have longer-term impact and the opposite of a diet. >> a healthy lifestyle is a life committal fearing. not a diet you'll be on when it is over, something you do every single day, be committed to. >> it is disciplines, easy to grab something that may be processed food, something

healthy that doesn't have a ton of sugar, sugar is accused of a. i cut it out of my diet but exercising is a priority. i love to eat and that is why i work out because it is what you put in your mouth. if you want to eat a lot you have to balance that out but nothing takes as -- that is on my refrigerator. >> there is pumpkin pie involved. hyatt like sweet potatoes with the yam and pineapple marshmallows. >> this is supposed to be a healthy eating segment, on christmas day, not the best -- >> don't you have one food group at a time? >> i am more into portion control. i can have anything i want, i don't deny myself anything. that is my philosophy of life.

>> fantastic -- >> one thing i noticed about andrea, she watches the sugar, i watch the salt, you have intense discipline. every now and then, i would say what would entry at do? i am with you enough to notice you make your shall leases, if she has an adult beverage connell: a date for that and i oftentimes, i will exercise portion control but then i will throw in an extract and it is about reminding yourself that nothing will feel as good. as being healthy. >> and more fit. fitness in and of itself is such a great motivator and it is true. if you know you are going to run six miles the next day. >> i never know that. >> you can have two extra cookies. >> i love reading magazines, all these things talk about what they ate the night before raise it is always pizza, peanut butter cups because they know

they will burn 3,000 calories in a race for next day. >> you are nice to say those things. the camera ads 10 pounds, you see where i sit, the best thing is squeezing into a pair of 2016s, better than a pair of mashed potatoes. >> that would be a pair of shorts on me by the way. >> the battle of the sexes is over? women might be the ones slaving over a hot stove christmas day but there guys are swooping in to reap the praise for their partners at separate. according to a new survey a quarter of men will take a lead role cooking today. two out of three will be the ones who cause of the turkey or ham and serve the christmas feast. i know that you lead the charge in the cooking of your household. do you think men are playing a little more of a role in the kitchen? >> i don't have a problem with this study and one of the best things you can do with your

family, this is why i love holiday cooking, something everyone can do together, try new things, involved your children, i don't have a problem spend a good part of the day cooking if my husband will stand over the turkey like a hunter and present needs. it creates a sense of excitement. >> what is balance like? >> i help out. i carve the turkey ended is important to take the entire breast off the frame, i have a special way of doing that and slice it, i like thin slices but i haven't cooked anything else. my wife and daughters of done that, my mother did it. they are tremendous, i try to held in clean up and do the best they can, stay out of the way, take a nap. >> you are in the kitchen together helping each other out. >> he is only talking to me on his mobile device. like i am talking but he is not listening. i have never seen him take credit for anything like that.

that is not -- i don't take credit, in charge of all things outside the house, like the landscaping is an amazing. >> kennedy is right. i do think a lot of women cooking and men standing over the bird, that is -- >> it makes for a better christmas day, my dad is the cook in the house, my mom will help with certain things but he rules the kitchen, southern cooking is amazing, something he enjoys as a hobby and it is fun to tal want us to help so it can just kind of hang out. >> i will stand over the turkey. in a row. >> more information in a row. >> the whole summer i will. >> that is even more -- >> looking back at family members of my dad. he was our chef and my brother

does a carving of the turkey but more men are stepping up to participate. >> can we go around and see what our favorite christmas food is? >> all of it. christmas rolls in the morning. >> cranberry sauce freshly made and sweet potatoes. >> my mom's cheese and eggs display with san francisco bay shrimp. >> sweet potato pie. >> back on monday at noon eastern, have are mary and blessed christmas. america's news headquarters right after this commercial break. at planters we know how to throw a remarkable holiday party. just serve classy snacks and be a gracious host, no matter who shows up. do you like nuts? wheall i can think abouthit,

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counting their blessings this christmas day and beginning to put their lives back together after thunderstorms and tornados in tennessee. total of 14 killed bite storms as they swept over tennessee, mississippi and arkansas overnight and christmas as well. thanks for joining us in the america's news headquarters. >> i am leland viter.