we're on top of the kind of stuff that maybe it comes up in the big debate next week. in charleston, south carolina, we're doing it again. fox business hosting a presidential debate. more than just economic numbers, your money, your life, we're there. hello, i'm eric bolling along with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." today president obama unveiled the actions he plans to take without the consent of congress to restrict gun use in america. among them, expanding background checks to almost anyone buying a firearm from a dealer. he says his plans are constitutional. he also set some constraints on freedom are necessary to protect innocent people. and then he got emotional. >> our unalienable rights to the pursuit of happiness, those

rights were stripped from college kids in san bernardino and high schoolers in columbine. and from first graders in newtown. first graders. and from every family who never imagined that their loved one would be taken from our lives by a bullet from a gun. every time i think about those kids, it gets me mad. and by the way, it happens on the streets of chicago every day. >> now listen, we all get emotional when you hear children being killed.

but where was that emotion for the victims of san bernardino terror attack? and where's the emotion calling islamic terror what it is/islamic and terrorism? those tears, mr. obama, i think isis sees them as emotional strength or weakness? i'm just asking juan, do you disagree with me? >> yeah. you think john boehner is a weak man? no. >> you're probably the wrong guy to ask. >> i'm just saying. to me i think this is what you want. obama -- my thing is he's too cool at times. and so if you're asking me as a human being, i think, i just think i don't want to be shot. i don't want to be walking in my neighborhood and some thug -- i'm just tired of it. >> believe me, i'm not disagreeing with that aspect. kg what i'm wondering here is the gun control debate. the argument. when he goes for it, executive action, he opens the door. does he open the door to more down the road? >> of course, and this is his kind of favorite go-to. this is the way that he's able

to achieve the outcomes that he wants. that are specific to his ideology. i don't begrudge him showing the emotion. he's a father. and anybody talking about children and the loss of lives. but i also think about the children and the christians that are being murdered and beheaded and executed and disabled children being executed by isis and i want to see our president show that level of emotion and resolve and passion to achieve the ends that we need as far as it relates to national security and in keeping americans safe. and doing the right thing. taking the position of power and influence that we have held in the world that people admire and respect that we are the ones you call when are you in greatest need. and i see that he has it. but i don't want him to cry about the second amendment. i want him to keep second amendment where it is. and worry about getting the bad guys that have the guns and not persecuting the guns. >> he did, greg, he pointed that out. it happens in chicago every day. i'm not sure that anything he

proposed today would fix what's going on in chicago every day. >> the thing about emotion is, and i do believe it's real. but emotion isn't facts. one of the facts is in chicago for example police shootings homicides are down. but other shootings are up. and gang violence is a big problem. but they can't go there on gang violence. because one if you come from a political background that says every prison certificate a political prisoner, you don't want to put people in prisons. number two, if you want to cut gang violence, you have to address the idea of drug legalization. since the overwhelming majority of gun violence are gun fights among gangs. background checks if they are so great, make them free. they cost between $60 and $100. the reason they aren't free, they feel that the price is a deterrent. it would only affect poor people. because they can't afford the money. lastly, john lott put out an

amazing study. a first-ever study of background checks. whether they reduced the risk. he looked from 2000 to 2015. additional checks on private transfers of guns raises the risk of shootings, of these deaths, rate of killing by 80%. so these background checks are actually harmful. it's called a hate fact. you hate to hear it because it's true. >> i don't get it explain to me. >> he ran the numbers. >> how can that be? >> because the cost of a background check. you're forcing more people who may not require a background check to require the background check. that cost goes immediately to the purchaser, right? >> because the seller is not going to eat that cost, it's going to go dot purchaser. the purchaser says i don't want to pay the money for the background check, he's going to go it an illegal gun or not get the gun. the crime against people in poverty minorities, et cetera, goes up because of increased regulation of background checks.

>> i think that's convoluted. i didn't understand what greg said. i think that's convoluted. >> because i think that -- >> it'sng to prohibit a certain group of people from being able to buy it. >> if can you afford to buy a gun. i think you can afford the $60 for a background check. i think that americans -- this is overwhelming. i don't get this. republicans gun owners, support background checks. >> i'm for background checks, i hope they work. but i don't see the evidence that they work. homicides have been cut in half in 25 years, anyway with guns. >> we talk about the political ramifications, is this a good wedge issue for 2016? >> i think the president thinks so. a couple of things, so his, they have poll-tested this a lot. this is something he's been talking about ever since he was in the state senate in illinois. he knows the issue very well. think what you saw today was when he welled up with emotion.

i recently heard a saying that you can't know a man's heart until you know what can break it. and obama hasn't been one that has shown a lot of, when it comes to tears, so it's almost as if he made eye contact with somebody in the crowd who maybe has been affected by sandy hook and he knows those families and i can't imagine what it would be like having been there, but i wasn't the president, you walk in, you have to give the president bad news, like with virginia tech shooting. and i think 2007 when president bush was in office. it does affect them. because they take it a little bit personally. and that's what president obama is doing. which is why i don't know exactly how the politics will come out. because making things personal doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to achieve anything. on a democratic side it probably helps a little bit in some of those districts and state wildfire you have democrats running for office that say they want to be able to point to something that president obama did on the issue that they care about. if it is guns. the interesting thing on the

republican side it could actually increase enthusiasm of republicans to turn out. one of the things i don't understand why the president didn't do this is he has the power to convene. and because there is bipartisan support on some of the issues when you look at the polling. he could have pulled together a bipartisan group and maded members stand up there with him. how are we going to stand up with this. >> why do you think that didn't happen? >> i think he has such a dislike for members of congress. you remember that the democratic senate in 2013, he couldn't pass it, when they had the democrats in office, either. so -- >> the politics -- the politics aren't exactly there. if coy add one last thing. >> it was reported that the new action will require the fbi to hire about 230 more agents. recently, the fbi has told us we have open investigations with isis. in all 50 states, i would imagine the fbi director would much rather have 230 full-time

people to help prevent the san bernardinos that we know are probably coming and being plotted right now than they would be to have them do more background checks. >> i think it's part of that story. i think if you have better, background checks, you can stop some of the people who we talk about here in terms of terrorists and bad people from getting guns. this would add -- >> do terrorists and bad people pay for background checks? >> apparently this guy got the guns from a friend. the guy in san bernardino. if they had done background checks, if they had insisted on -- >> it doesn't store aurora, it didn't stop sandy hook. >> let's not debate the last one. let's talk about stopping the next one. >> if you debate the last one, you are wrong. guns didn't make not people kill san bernardino innocents. radical islam did so the argument other the guns pulls them out of that. it's also with suicide, when he

talks about suicide. you don't kill yourself because of a gun. you kill yourself with a gun. >> you focus on the easy access and more easily done. >> background checks will not stop suicides. >> we don't -- >> you know, background checks are also doing, you hate gun ownership. you hate the proliferation of gun ownership in america, right? >> 300 million guns in american is too many. you know what's happening with the gun control talk? people are flocking to buy guns. 44 a minute in 2015. 44 background checks a minute. >> the best thing to happen to the gun lobby. >> you know what -- >> people are worried about the guns infringement on the second amendment. >> even the nra says you mean after all of these years, this is so thin. >> the president tore into the gun lobby and accused groups like the nra of holding congress

hostage. >> i believe we can find way does reduce gun violence consistent with the second amendment. how did this become such a partisan issue? even the nra used to support expanded background checks. most of its members still do, most republican voters still do. how did we get here? how did we get to the place where people think requiring a comprehensive background check means taking away people's guns? >> and then the nra put out a statement following the speech saying the president's proposed actions will be ripe for abuse by his administration and won't allow gun-abiding owners to become scapegoats for his failed policies. >> he politicized this. no, juan. he brazenly said it's time, whenever there's a tragedy. you got to politicize this. i'll give you, think we can meet in one area, juan, if you will. a lot of this is all about

suspicion. the left is suspicious of the right and the right is suspicious of the left we don't trust president obama, we think that every small step is leading to a bigger absolute thing like a ban. it's the same way the left feels about the right on abortion. that every little, every little twist or turn at the edges going to lead to a reversal of roe v. wade. it's exactly a mirror. we don't trust each other. there's why there's no bipartisanship on this stuff. >> i think there's no bipartisanship because you have an nra out there -- >> and you have planned parenthood. >> what? you think planned parenthood spends as much as the nra? not even close. i get your point. but i do get your point. i hear you, but i'm saying i think the suspicion is a legitimate point you're making, but i don't think in terms of counting the money and the political power, i don't think it's comparable. i will say this, talk about smart guns, why don't, why don't people come together on the idea that yes we can have a trigger

that recognize people. we can have chip i.d.s, we can do lots of things that would lower it -- >> infringing on the second amendment right. >> could you still own a gun. >> what would you do. you and the individuals that are your same beliefs, what will you do when you get what you want. perhaps some day and still the violence, the terrorism, the mass shootings, happen? >> i would say well we have a second amendment and the court has affirmed it. but i don't think we have to live in the dark ages, kimberly, without smart gunns, without improving the technology. without making an effort to keep them out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. >> they will get the guns. >> final thought. >> i would say this is fairly remarkable that he has this big of an outpouring on thursday. he's going to have the town hall and in virginia. this is the lead-up to his state of the union address. state of the union is where you say this is the state of union

and these are my proposals and ideas for the next 12 months, last year in office. this is at a time when less than 2% of people say that gun violence and ownership is their number one concern. their number one concern is terrorism, isis and the economy as it should be. >> when is the town hall, thursday? >> virginia. >> very interesting. >> ahead, special guests will be joining us, presidential candidate john kasich is here. we'll ask him what he thinks about the president's latest push to restrict guns and how he plans to win the republican nomination, back in a moment.

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welcome back to "the five," we're pleased to welcome a republican presidential hopeful to our table. ohio governor john case sick here with us and there's just 27 days left until the first election contest in iowa. he seems to be setting his sights on new hampshire. where the first of the nation primary will be held on february 9th. he's been campaigning in the state all week and just released another new ad there today. welcome to "the five," pleasure to have you, governor. tell us about all your big plans and how you're going to wreck everybody else by getting the

nomination. >> here's the thing amazing about new hampshire and you've followed it dana, very coastly. there's 1.2 million people in that state. it's like running for mayor of a, you know, a basically a middle-sized city. and the 1.2 million. i've seen all of them twice, so i only have two more times to go. but the way it works is, you go to your town hall meetings, of which i've done 48 or nine right now. and you stand up in front. people ask you questions. and so it gets down, it's really interesting. it's like running for congress in a way. you have your commercials and then you have a ground game. and then you pitch yourself and you see what happens. an we will not know what's going to happen in new hampshire. i don't believe until election night. because we're all so bunched together and so close. and that's where i think the ground game will work. and we're very optimistic about it. >> and town halls do matter. let's take a listen. you mentioned the new ad and let's roll it and get everybody to react. >> he lived a hard-scrabble life

in a rusty steel town. john kasich never gives up. when he lost his parents to a drunk driver, he had the faith to carry on. some say he couldn't balance the federal budget. but kasich stunned washington. they say he couldn't save ohio from an $8 billion shortfall, but kasich did. they say our best days are behind us. america -- never gives up. >> i'm john kasich and i approved this message. >> great message. i think you're hitting all the points there. >> i think the thing is people think the system is bad. rich people, special interests run the country. and some people are feeling so, first of all, that's, with some politicians maybe true. with me, it isn't. my whole record is an example of speaking up for those people i grew up with in that hard-scrabble town. but we can't give up. i mean i tell everybody, this morning i spoke to people who were recovering drug addicts, i spoke to college students, don't

give up, you get knocked down, get back up. look at the life story of juan williams, how many times have you been knocked down? >> by me. >> just today. >> increasingly there are people who say maybe it's all over for me. no, you can't give up. >> but senator, is scrabble really that hard? >> governor, not senator, don't demote me now. >> all the governors are doing poorly in this race, why do you think that is? is it a function of an angry populace? >> the last poll that came out had me one point out of second place, eight points behind trump, that's when the voting starts. i think that experience matters. at the end of the day people will settle down and they're going to want somebody who can land the plane. the key for me is i talk about experience only from the standpoint of giving myself credibility to talk about what i want to do. because you know based on somebody's past record what they're likely to do in the

future. and i think people do want somebody to stand up for them. they want jobs, they want their kids to get work. they want the homeland protected. i feel as though i've got the credibility to say it based on what i've done throughout my career. >> governor you said at some point people will quote settle down and they want someone to land the plane. i assume that means you. if they don't settle down and they choose donald trump to try to land the plane, would you accept the vp nomination by donald trump? a tap on your shoulder to be donald trump's vp? >> you don't know me very well, although i've been on the show. do you think i would ever run for second place? i have the second-best job in the entire country. >> but you're ohio and the gop needs to deliver ohio and a smart presidential nominee, would want to deliver ohio and you're the best way to do it. >> how about the best way to beat hillary clinton, is to pick me as the nominee. because i am in ohio and because i'm very hard to label. it's always been difficult for people to put their finger on

me. you know we balance budgets, we grow the economy, we leave no one behind. whether you're mentally ill or drug addict or the working poor, or a member of the minority community. you have a chance in ohio and i think it makes it very difficult for people to lay a glove on me, and with hillary, hillary is a measurer. you know keystone pipeline. do i make the unions mad or do i make the environmentalists mad? and juan i think that's her problem. her problem is she's too political in deciding things. and i don't think that's what the country wants. and i don't think that's going to work in general election. >> you know i respect you. i mean i respected you from washington. i respect tremendously what you've done in ohio. you've reached to racial minorities, people that back you. people you wouldn't associate with the republican brand like john kasich. the question is in this time, greg touched on this of an angry electorate. are they going to turn on someone who is seen as an establishment figure?

>> you know it's hard to label me as an establishment figure. because i've always fought the establishment. >> that's true. >> this may be where we are now. here's what some people say. trump says all the things i wish i could say and i can't. >> well let me tell you, we're a country that is devolving into name-calling and insulting? we got bigger problems than who we're going to elect for president. so what do i think? hope springs eternal with mei'v time. i've studied it for a long time and i think at the end of the day people do settle down. >> say something angry. >> i'm not going to change myself. if i win i'm going to fix the country. i'm not going to say things to get elected and i'm there and now what do we do. forget it, i'm not going there. >> spoken like the grown-up at the table. >> that's brilliant. >> i think that's brilliant. >> this going to be a deep tease, you're going to hear from dana perino, she's got questions. but the governor, don't go away, he's staying with him. we're going to ask him what he

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and other places, what do you think about how you could beat them? >> you beat hillary because i think she's really compartmentalized. i don't think she thinks in terms -- she doesn't have a great vision. that's why obama beat her. because it's about vision. remember i used to talk about bush, it's the vision thing. i don't think she has a vision. think it's too much politically calculated. if we come out with somebody that's a divider, you can't win ohio. if you don't win ohio, you can't be president, it's not that complicated. >> i'm going to exercise my right to have one more question. tell me about ohio, that's quite a remarkable story. where you started as governor and where are you today. you're up 385,000. >> our wages are growing faster than the national average. our credit is rock-solid. our pensions are rock solid. we've cut taxes by the largest of any sitting governor, $5 billion. we're running a $2 billion surplus and we're leaving nobody in the shadows.

the state has been economically diversified. >> can that be duplicated on a national level? >> i was chairman of the budget committee when we balanced the budget, cut capital gains and the economy was booming. and we've got guys running, for seven years we heard people say how did we ever eye length the first-term senator who didn't have the experience? i think maybe we have amnesia. and then one of my, one of the guys running, one of the governors, his budget is structurally out of balance. his pensions are falling apart. he's been downgraded nine times. you have to look at that. >> you're taking a shot at chris christie. you won't even call his name? >> you're so smart, juan, i want to you figure it out. what i'm saying is it's a heck of a record. but it's not a record because frankly i'm such a great guy. i've got a great team and that's how you do things, you know this from your time in the white house. you have to have a great team. you have to let them be set free. and here's the key. look at a problem and fix it don't worry about politics,

don't worry about who's going to yell at you. don't care about the rich or the powerful. who cares. look at a problem, fix it. >> in the end that's what your legacy is about. hillary is a big problem solver, she has bill on the trail to keep him off the tail. >> is it weird that we have a socialist running for president and bernie sanders? >> what do you want me to say to that? >> okay, national security, think it's the most important issue of the day. >> it is very important. >> what would be your plan if you were president to deal with isis? >> i was served on the defense committee for 18 years. after 9/11 i went to the pentagon for two or three years i was involved with bringing technologists into the pentagon to solve some of the problems working directly with donald rumsfeld. you have to have an air and a ground and you have to destroy them and it has to be a coalition like the very first bush had.

when they pushed saddam out of kuwait and started marching, people say he should have gone all the way to baghdad. he was smart enough to get out of there and not get us in the police departmental of a civil war and it's a tragedy that the intelligence was bad on iraq. because without that intelligence by nuclear weapons, no way we should have gone in there when the u.s. involves itself in civil wars directly, we don't win. we lose. >> are we getting nitty-gritty on politics for a second? you're not spending a lot of time in iowa. >> i was just there yesterday. >> not as compared to -- cruz and trump and those guys. >> the size, juan. iowa is so big and there's only so many resources and so many hours in the day. >> i thought it was about evangelical christian republicans and you decided that's not my market. >> well i'm a man of faith but i don't go out and wear it on my sleeve. no, it wasn't for that at all. it's a matter of resources and time. i only got in in july. >> you have to allocate your resources. >> it's a lot easier when you

have 1.2 million. i can stand in manchester, throw a stone and hit most of new hampshire. you're on the ballot in over 30 states, we have people in south carolina. people in iowa. people in any nevada. and the ad i put up today is from the hard dollars of my campaign. people said he's going to run out of money. we're like the little engine that can and leer's the key. if the ground game doesn't work then we're not going to do well in new hampshire if we don't do well in new hampshire, well enough to continue i'm not going to drag this thing on. i'm not in this to write a book or get a television show. >> i believe we're going to come that out of new hampshire as a story. if that's the case, i'm going to tell you i will come back. i believe i will be the nominee. the money will come in and woe'e organized. >> you're very likable, relatable. people love to talk to you, why is it not resonating with the voters right now?

the last poll before christmas, the independent poll sample of 600, which dana will tell you, it's a good number. it's got a lower error rate. i'm one point behind rubio and only a few points behind trump. we'll see where it goes. >> there's plenty of time. >> and we're not going to know until election day. these things change up there. it's so volatile. and the public for the first time when i was in iowa and now in new hampshire, you know what i've noticed? people are starting to really listen. up until now, there's been limited focus in my opinion. if i thought we were going to do well, i'd tell you. are we going to win iowa? of course not. but the key is coming out of new hampshire, we're ready to move on. if we come out of new hampshire. >> you know whose attention you got from day one who was worried about you and still is, not just based on your record, but ohio, the clinton campaign, they're worried about running against you. >> well you know what are they going to use against me?

i've got nothing but a record of growth, of inclusion, of lifting people. of you know, just being a regular guy. and i think it's hard to put me in a box. and i think that might be part of my problem. >> you could get democrats to cross over and get the reagan appeal. >> i won 86 out of 88 counties in ohio. 60% of the women vote. 26% of the african-americans and 51% of union households, after all the issues i have with organized labor, i was endorsed by the building trades, the operating engineers, the carpenters -- nailed that one by the way, get it. >> get it. >> on that note, we going to have to go. thank you so much for joining us. it was really fun. next, will a new movie on the attack in benghazi impact hillary clinton's race for the white house? we'll show you a clip ahead.

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comes out remember this -- on september 14th, 2002 at andrews air force base hillary clinton told the family members of the men killed in benghazi that their deaths were sparked bay video. four relatives claim she actually did say this. and tyrone woods' dad made notes after she talked to them. this is key. just weeks ago, george stephanopoulos asked her this. >> i understand the continuing grief at the loss that parents experienced with the loss of these four brave americans. andy testify as you know for 11 hours. and i answered all of these questions. now i can't, i can't help it, that the people think there has to be something else there. >> well that does it for me. she is telling the truth and those families are liars. who are you going to believe? some grieving people, including one who took notes? or some heroic woman who braved

sniper fire in bosnia. do you trust some dead hero's relatives, or a lady who said she was dead broke after the white house. who would you accept, people with precise memories of that event or a person who blamed a planned act of terror on a video. who are you going to believe, weeping parents or the person who stated that she was named after sir edmund hillary. and never mind that what these families said are the same things that hillary had said openly. as well as her flacks did on other shows. it's not like hillary ever lies about anything. lies about ever. she lies the way a puppy poops, often and everywhere and it's the press that scrub it is off on their hands and knees. in the end it's just her words against theirs, as loved ones lie in state. she simply lies.

so on, mag megyn kelly last night, the contractors, about lying about the video. go for it. >> i know pat smith. katie quigley. we know ty's mom. we know what they told us was said and i do know them very well. katie has been on news quite a bit. telling you what she was told. and i know that they were told it was the video, because that's what they told me. i believe pat, katie. who wo would have a reason to lie? why? their loved ones just died. >> they have no reason to tell anything but the truth. >> kimberly this is a huge deal. >> it's a really big deal and it should matter. i want it to matter. because it tells me a lot about her this country about the voters, about american families, about the values that we hold dear. make a choice with confidence and say someone who lies like this, lies to grieving family

members. listen to what these guys have said. they've been consistent from day one coming out to talk about it. a movie coming out. there's more to the story than we're hearing at this point. there's a lot of people's lives on the line. >> the media is going to let this slide, right? >> yeah. they keep pointing the finger at us, saying fox or the right is rehashing this, she's already testified for 11 hours. don't forget we already have emails unearthed now of her emailing her daughter chelsea saying within 24 hours, saying this is terror this is a terror attack. and then as you know, a couple of days later, two days after the email. two days after the email, three days after the attack, she says at andrews, mentions the video. there's your smoking gun. i don't know why this is up for any other discussion. she blatantly lied about it and we need to keep harping on this, because it matters. >> and what else could she lie about? dana? you lie about this, why can't

you just admit -- if she admits she made a mistake she's a better person. >> the other thing is she does this thing where she tries to be a solve herself from any responsibility by saying how long she testified. the movie is called 13 hours, the based on the best-selling book by the same name. 13 hours, it was a lot harder for them to do what they did for 13 hours, than her to answer questions for 13 hours. >> that is an excellent point. juan, she's the type of person who would day an orphan's candy and eat it in front of the orphan and blame it on a video. and have the guy arrested. >> to me kimberly says she wants to believe this you guys want this to be important. i think for most americans it's like, what are you talking about? she's testified, this thing has been over. it's over. look, in addition to -- i'm just saying this has been gone over and over. people have said did she say

this? did she not? at this point -- >> don't say -- blk rbc. >> i know what difference it makes because kimberly and you guys want to believe this. >> lives should matter. lying, is that part of the job qualification of secretary of state? does she think that's a resumé builder for commander-in-chief i don't think so. >> well apparently she does, and we got to move. ahead a group that's trying to get people to cut back on their alcohol intake has issue ed a month-long challenge. could we do it? no.

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it's the new year and a time when a lot of folks regroup to kick certain vices. like smoking, overeating or -- perhaps drinking too much? do you think you could give up having a glass of wine or a cocktail for an entire month? a group called alcohol concern is encouraging people to sign up for their no drinking challenge. and they've dubbed it dry january. so before this moment, before the segment i said at the table who is the heaviest drinker at the table? and there was a contest -- >> that's commercial break talk.

>> there was a contest -- breaking the rules here. and the contest was between my two male colleagues. and so i say dr. gutfeld and dr. bolling. why don't you two settle this? who is the heaviest drinker between the two of you? >> is that what the segment is? >> i want to establish this. >> i wasn't prepared for this. >> i want to establish this so i can ask the question. >> i'll pull a juan williams. think i could possibly not drink for a full month of january, but why would i? i don't want to not drink for the month of january. >> but you could prove that you could do it. >> he has amazing willpower. he hasn't eaten on tuesdays for years. >> he is totally mano rexic. >> he's not will power. >> that's the one thing i don't want to do. >> can you find a cure for boredom, stress and anxiety,

crankiness, i'll stop drinking. i'm so neurotic that i bought a book on parallel universes and i worry about myself in those other universes. i'm wondering like is greg gutfeld in a car accident in this other universe? is greg gutfeld going to be fired in this universe? i have so much anxiety i can't even keep it in our universe. drink away, america. >> what do you say, kimberly? >> keep it up little peanut pinot noir. >> number one is seven advocate sc vodka. wine is dana. are you -- >> i don't fall in, i fall down. i fall down. >> he has some other vices. dana is like, packs quite a punch. >> dana quacks a punch? >> packs, she's tiny.

>> are we talking -- if it's relative to our size, do i drink the most? >> that's a good question. >> the bottle of ever-clear in the bathroom before the show. >> anyway -- >> i was putting myself maybe just right before juan. >> there's no evidence by the way that this works. but the lady who wrote it said it cleared up her face, her complexion. one more thing, up next. i'm billy, and i quit smoking with chantix. i had a lot of doubts going in. i was a smoker. hands down, it was... that's who i was. after one week of chantix, i knew i could quit. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these,

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we'll talk, j. lo. you know what i'm talking about. anyway -- >> you should pay her. >> greg's math question of the day. people love math but they forget about it after school. so here's the question for everybody here. what is the percentage of odd numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, among natural numbers? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8? what is the percentage of odd numbers among natural numbers? 50%? >> i already know the answer. >> i thought 50%. but they're exactly the same amount as odd numbers as there are natural numbers, because they go to infinity. okay. wow. >> coming from the book. >> i think that's incorrect. >> that's true. >> you can't. >> i think you should go back. >> it's more natural to you. >> viewers at home know what i'm talking about. >> oh my god. >> so this is how you know the world is going to h-e double

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once you eat bacon, you can't go back. >> i'm going to forgo my time kg and snatch at that for everyone who wants to check out the bacon behind the scenes. "special report" on deck. four, three, two, one -- this is a fox news alert. i'm brett baier in washington, half a world away some of america's elite commandos are trapped and fighting for their lives. it's happening in marja, afghanistan. one special operator is already dead, marjah. more than 1 dozen other commanders are surrounded by what appears to be taliban fighters in the region. year after president obama declared that combat operations are over in that country. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has tonight's still-developing top story from the evening, jennifer. >> brett, fox news has learned tonight that more than a dozen u.s. special operators and their