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saving his owners from an armed intruder. he got shot in the head that grazed his skull but he made a recovery. waffle house, has something to do with valentine's day. watch the debate. it's 3:00 on the east coast, 2:00 p.m. in iowa, where we're just hours away from the final republican debate before the nation's first presidential contest. we'll talk with one of the moderators of tonight's face yourself here on fox news. there are new polls that show the democrats in a tough fight for iowa, and bernie sanders pulling farther ahead in new hampshire. we're live on the campaign trail, with the turnout projections that could be the key to it all. and the affluenza teen back in the united states now. ethan couch dodged prison time for killing four people in a car wreck but claimed he was a spoiled, rich kid who didn't know any better. so what happens to him, now that he's back in texas? let's get to it.
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first from the fox news desk this thursday afternoon the first presidential contest could all come down to this. we're now hours away from the gop debate right here on fox news channel, the last one before the iowa caucuses, and in an election season that's been seeing record viewers, tonight's shakedown could be make or break for the republicans who want that, to land that tough job. when the candidates take the stage this time, ted cruz will be front and center. that could put him and his rivals cross-hairs. according to the real clear politics average of iowa survey, ted cruz will be the top polling candidate on stage tonight. analysts say a strong showing in evangelical iowa is critical to the cruz campaign and he's been working that state hard. >> you know, on monday we're going to complete what's called the full grass state, i will have traveled and done an event in all 99 counties in iowa,
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stood in front of the voters and looked them in the eye. >>'fighting on the campaign trail is a sign of what's to come, ted cruz could face a strong challenge from fellow senator marco rubio. he's polling third in iowa and he said tonight's debate could change everything. >> iowa is an impossible place to poll. the caucuses and you've covered them before, people literally make up their mind sometimes on the last day and the debate will be a big part of it. >> while they duke it out for iowa, analysts say some of tonight's contenders will be angling for voters a thousand miles away. the establishment republicans betting big on new hampshire. the real clear politics polling has kasich in third place. his rivals will be trying to shake all of that up tonight. think about the big picture here with me. what if the candidates running in that cluster around third place, three or four of them, get the time and the space to make their cases tonight and they get brand new traction?
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don't say it can't happen. it did last cycle. ask rick santorum he'll tell you, a debate stage where no one person gets at mart the majorit attention. ted cruz tand the establishment candidates, governors and the like, with play they say haven't gotten much notice. what if tonight they do? what if tonight does change everything? it could, and we'll all be watching. martha is the moderator of the earlier debate. let's beginning with carl cameron live in des moines. one of the questions, carl, can ted cruz handle that center stage tonight? he seems to be a mighty good debater. >> and he's been a pretty good fighter on the campaign trail as well. ted cruz has been in something of a mixed martial arts campaign having to deal both with his two-man race at the top of the polls, and dealing with marco rubio and the rest of the field battling from coming out from
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behind. for cruz tonight, a number of things he had to accomplish. he has to show that he can be likeable. he's been accused of being unlikeable by a number of his riv rivals. he has to show command of policy, and presented in a way that doesn't sort of remind people that he's the guy who was blamed for the government shutdown of 2013 and has so angered his colleagues in the u.s. senate, and been sort of a posterboy for the democrats association with the republicans with the so-called war on women and conservative politics. cruz has to overcome that tonight, at the same time making sure all of his other opponents who will be coming at him as one of the guys in the two-man race, he keeps them at bay, answers their criticisms and defends his own record. there's a lot riding on this for ted cruz. if he wins iowa, his numbers will rise in new hampshire and south carolina, and he may make a claim to be the sort of conservative lane candidate in this race, the one conservatives can trust to change things in washington and unite the
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republican party and get them to stick to promises. >> carl i liked the numbers behind the numbers. think of it this way, the most people who ever caucused in iowa is 130,000, talking about the republican side here. now this time they're projecting because there's so much interest, 170,000. if there are that many it benefits the man who is firmly on top but if that number is smaller, around 120,000 or so, carl, that according to this new polling shows three men almost, well statistically in a dead heat but almost completely in a dead heat, like it's anybody's game, only 120,000, 130,000 show up. is that what you've been seeing? >> that's exactly how the math works out and every single campaign has a different model for what they anticipate the turnout to be like. every poll has a different model for what they anticipate the turnout will be. and as you just pointed out the last few have been cutting up their models to show you
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different scenarios based on turnout. in iowa, long history talking what an are deuce process it is, give up a cold monday night and disclose who you're going to support in front of all of your neighbors. one of the things that's interesting to hear people talk about in the rallies for these various different candidates is what happens in caucus when people sort of divide up by size, by teams, and there could be significant pressure on candidates with low polls, and their supporters if they get to a school or a church or an auditorium where there's going to be a caucus and a big, long line for one candidate. if it's cruz, he's going to get a bit of a band wagon effect. people like to join the long line rather than the short one when they get to the caucuses. >> it's one thing to have thousands and tens of thousands out say i'm for you, whoever you are. it's another thing to get individual people to go out and caucus. think about this. 3 million people in the state of iowa, 120, 130, 160,000 people,
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whatever, deciding it all. your ground game decides whether they go do that. tell us about the ground game for the different candidates. >> first of all the candidates have to target who they think the voters are going to be the most persuadable. iowa republican caucus has been well over house of self-described born again christians or evangelicalristia. the next big group they go after is home schoolers. they share a lot of the same values, there's a lot of overlap between home schooling and ev evangelic evangelicals. this several thousand college kid volunteers right in the last week will be knocking on doors doing all of this, at every single rally particularly rubio does this a lot, when people come in the door they hand them a bunch of phone numbers, call your friends and family and tell them to caucus and where the place is. that's how hand-to-hand this has
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to be. the 3 million people that don't caucus, the 120,000 some-odd in for republicans and a little bit larger for democrats particularly after obama's 2008 numbers, they are much more ardent but much harder bunch of people to find, and so finding them and asking them to come out and caucus is not enough. what the candidates demand of them is to volunteer, call friends and family, put a sign in your yard, pass out flyers at your church supper. these are the things that they are asked to do. it's not like the rest of the country where you walk into a voting booth or take an absentee ballot for mail it. it separates the true believers from the eh voters. eh voters don't come to the caucus. >> the snow is an indicator of how many come out. the meteorologists need a shorter time period but carl, one of the things that separates our viewers around the country, of course we have viewers all over the world, but our viewers
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around the country may not realize that, in nevada, south carolina, certainly in new hampshire, and especially there in iowa, everything, all of the advertisement with which they're inundated, they must be getting sick of it out there. >> iowa and new hampshire voters and anybody with a speed dial is not answering a phone if they don't recognize it at this point. the odds are it's a pollster and they can be incredibly annoying and the automated ones your cat could jump on the key dial of the pad and have you voting for who knows who. you have the polling and attack ads. you cannot turn on a local tv station at iowa and at news time see less than three or four ads in a break and most are particularly negative because there's a tremendous amount of independent money from the superpacks being spent here an at the end of last year more than $70 million to $80 million in iowa was expected to be spent
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in both states. the lion's share of the money goes to tv advertising and radio advertising. this is crunch time. if you want to find a place to buy a car, car dealerships aren't getting on the air, just the politicians. >> we'll make time for them in a few minutes. carl, have a fantastic time tonight. >> thanks. >> martha mccallum is one of the moderators of the first debate, not new at this moderating thing and has been spectacular throughout this campaign, if her friends and colleagues are allowed to say such a thing. what is the goal tonight? >> shepard, it will be interesting tonight. with the dynamic that changed so dramatically with donald trump out of the festivities, you have a lot more oxygen on the stage and you can bet the other candidates will seize that opportunity. for tonight they have the race they imagined before trump got into this thing. you have a very established tier
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of candidates who want to make their voices heard and also this dynamic you're likely toned up with a conservative and establishment candidate so ted cruz is going to be center stage. he's going to take that role and it will be in many ways i would expect him against the rest of the world up there in some regards. but you also have to think about that second tier, because for them, marco rubio what's at stake for him? he's third in the iowa polls. he wants to be strong here. he needs to be the second headline of the day after the caucuses when people say ooh, wow look how good rubio did. maybe it will be look how well christie did or look how well kasich did or any one of the candidates and they're speaking tonight as much as they speak to the people of iowa, they all want to have a good showing and they're also talking to the voters in new hampshire, because that's where so many of them need to do really well. so their message is for iowa, but also very much for new hampshire voters because there's not going to be a debate for them between now and then. i feel like this night people
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are going to tune in and make a lot of decisions and as we know in iowa you have to walk into the caucus with choice number one, choice number two and choice number three, depending on how well things go for the person you hope will win the nomination. >> and another thing, martha, republican voters traditionally care about the same kind of things everyone else does. they care about national security. they care about the economy, for their families, they care about foreign policy. they care about immigration. i wonder if tonight might be an opportunity for all of those real issues that real americans care about to percolate to the surface and allow some separation between the candidates, allow them to get their message forward and some would say for the first time. >> and you know what, they will be. i can guarantee you in both debates tonight, 99% set on our questions. we were up in the meeting room doing a few tweaks and last-minute changes to some of the questions based on some of the things that have been happening but you are going to hear how they stand on the issues but i think you've heard,
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shepard so much policy. they need to come out and connect with the voter, make them sit up in their chair at home in their living rooms in america, i think he gets it or i think she gets it. i never heard that person speak to me that way before. i trust them. i have confidence in them. that's the barrier that needs to be crossed now for these people, because everybody has a pretty good sense of where they stand policy wise but if you were to be in the office and you were confronted with the different situations how would you handle them. those are the sound bites you'll hearing and watching again and again tomorrow and the next day and reporting on. those are the moments that they're really going for it at this stage of the game. >> it's a unique opportunity for someone like you and bill and all the rest. i can't wait to watch it tonight. excited to see it. best of luck. go get 'em. >> thank you, shep. good to see you. >> martha and her tv partner bill hemmer will host the debate 7:00 eastern time, 6:00 in iowa.
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then the prime time showdown at 9:00 for us poor east coasters but it's 8:00 in corn country, 8:00 tonight, only on fox news channel, america's choice for news and information on cable, a decade plus running. more on tonight's gop debate ahead. look at how our partnership with google will give you the most up-to-date info on the debate as it unfolds. >> plus bernie sanders is now eating away at hillary clinton's lead in iowa, but is he healthy enough to be president? there's a new report out today on his health, and his medical condition. we'll explain what it is, and we'll have all of the predebate happenings. some of our colleagues up on stage, stage manager dave bergosia and on the left a bunch of our friends, fridays with dave on the right-hand side. those behind him are normally here in new york and we have them by the dozens and hundreds in iowa ready to bring you one hell of a show tonight!
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just a few short hours ago until the gop debate here on fox news channel. teaming up with google to give you the latest real time information, like which candidate people are searching the most. shannon has the news live in des moines this afternoon. hello, shannon. >> hey, shep. this is fun. the google trends data lets us track things minute by minute.
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that's how we'll use it during the debate. for tonight all kinds of information we can push out afterwards. right now we can give you a look ahead of time. let's look at the two cards for the debates. the undercard concentrating on iowa, we're concentrating on iowa and hoping we can get it for you.. we'll show you a county by county map that looks at the trend for how people are searching for specific candidates, who they're searching for the most. you might be surprised, if. we could get it working. there's at least one county in iowa where the top search trend for a candidate is jim gilmore, the former virginia governor, he makes it onto the undercard tonight. he's dominating one of the counties in iowa. we'll keep trying this because we have data that shows you those who qualify for the upper tier. donald trump is pretty much dominating the state but several counties where the top searches of ted cruz and marco rubio. there is a mix there. in addition we can track all kinds of weird information about people. all of us sitting at home and we're googling, we may ask
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people questions we wouldn't ask them face-to-face, co-workers and friends that we're embarrassed so all trends people look at stuff like, oh, there, it's moving. it's working. live television, you know, shep. this is one of the quirky things we saw. there's been a lot of chatter about ted cruz born in canada. guy who follows him to all of his eenvents with a poster "ted cruz loves nickelback" a band based in canada. there's a 1600% of people googling nickelback in canada. this tracks the most minute and quirky of issues. we'll do that tonight and find out people search all kinds of things about the candidates, how old they are, tall they are and serious stuff, like where they are on specificish use. we'll have it all tonight and will work out the gremlins in the machine. i as vanna white will do that for you. shep? >> you have a lot more to do
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than vanna white. i know machine issues, there's all behind we hop how do viewers get involved? >> if you're on google you're involved. if you search for any issues on candidates that information is generating into what google is tracking. if you want to get involved with the debate go to google and type in fox news debate. people can weigh in on survey questions, who do you think won the debate, what do you want to know about a specific candidate, who do you think did the best? google fox news debate and specifically vote on the survey questions and we'll have that data tonight after the debate. >> shannon bream standing next to a wall that needs to be unplugged and plugged back in. >> you got it. something weird just happened, something weird just happened. fox news alert, a strange one. government scientists have just confirmed to fox news a sonic boom happened over new jersey and people report feeling the shaking from southern new jersey all the way to new york city. the united states geological survey reports the boom happened
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over hampton, new jersey, about an hour and a half south of trenton, new jersey. some say they felt a series of these booms as many as eight of them. they say entire houses were shaking violently. so far it's a mystery. spokesman for the air force base in that local area there tells the local radio station that their jets are not behind it, jersey state police tell local media they're still investigating, they don't know what it is. our new jersey bureau where our long-term booker mike straczinski works says the snow from the nor'easter was shook off his roof. i doubt they're feeling it in london but here in new jersey it's big and we'll stay on it. ♪
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with just four days left until voters go out and caucus. new survey from monmouth university shows secretary clinton up by five points, that is a statistical tie. just last month she had a 22-point lead. and in new hampshire the vermont senator is expanding his lead over the former secretary of state. according to a new poll from nbc news, the "wall street journal" and marist college his lead has jumped 15 points in the last couple of weeks. ed henry is live in newton, iowa, to are us this afternoon. all comes down to caucuses on tuesday night. always has. >> reporter: it does and what's interesting is that anecdotally on the ground what i'm seeing is a surge for sanders at least right now in terms of crowd size. we have some pictures for you. last night bernie sanders was in mason city, relatively small town in iowa and he had over 1,100 people. hillary clinton when i was coming to you yesterday live from the bowling alley she had 275 people.
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now, obviously in fairness to her, if she knows the lists like the obama folks did back in 2008 and knows which people she needs to get to caucus, she doesn't need to boast about big rallies. she doesn't have to have the big events. she can just get them out next monday night, whereas the bernie sanders folks might be getting big rallieies getting people interested in voting but will they go out in the cold monday and caucus? that's the big question. i have to say enthusiasm on the ground is heavily weighted toward sanders. shep? >> the voter turnout, the caucus goer turnout for tonight and what a difference it would make. i want to show our numbers on the democratic side. so these are the projections. if there are 200,000 people who turn out, see that on the far right there? >> reporter: yep. >> bernie sanders and hillary clinton, 45 and 44, statistical dead heat and only 110,000 turnout, hillary clinton leads by five percentage points.
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for bernie sanders, it looks like the more who come out, certainly the better for him. >> reporter: exactly. and that's how barack obama beat hillary clinton in 2008. she didn't just come in second, thee came in third. you put your finger exactly on it, shep, the more people who turn out you're going to get more people who have never shown up before, some of these college students that bernie sanders is getting excited on the free college tuition plan and the like and so another thing to watch here is, is hillary clinton starting to think, she's not giving up iowa. as you say, it's a dead heat but why last night did she go to philadelphia to raise money, then stay overnight in the east, and did another fund-raiser in new york this morning. it tells me two things, that bernie sanders' internet money machine which is low cost, he doesn't do fund-raisers, the money comes in over the internet for free, whereas hillary clinton has to fly around the country on a private jet, spend the money, spend all that time and the bottom line is, she's not in the state right now as i speak to you. bernie sanders is. she's not. that's not good.
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>> the clinton camp leveled some accusations against bernie sanders and he came out and responded today. >> he did. what they're saying on your question about turnout, there had been allegations back in 2008 that maybe barack obama got a lot of people from out of state who were not college students actually here in iowa, not legitimately caucusing and now whispers are starting again here today about whether or not bernie sanders will get college students from other states. i was with him at a breakfast that bloomberg hosted. bernie sanders was asked and lashed at the clinton camp. >> really is that what they're saying? you know, i am, this is you talk about negative stuff, really? based on what this they say t t that? >> i don't know, senator. >> they saw david brachs, long history of integrity and honesty, the man who tried to destroy anita hill, is this where this is coming from? >> he's talking about david brch
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the super pack supporting hillary clinton. the clinton camp said bernie sappeders i'm positive, rallying people, not going to run a negative campaign but he started running ads attacking hillary clinton over wall street and other issues and so the clinton camp is not going to be outdone here and they say he's the one who is flip-flopping going negative all of a sudden. >> i've been hearing all day within the sanders and this is not unusual if true, within the camp there are one group that thinks they need to go harder on the negative side and others say they need to stick to bernie sanders' word, we'll maintain a straight up campaign. my understanding is they have both kind of ads ready to go. is that true? >> they do. that seems to be true, yes. bernie sanders breakfast, i was out with him, he was asked about that and he acknowledged they have these different ads. he insisted they're only going to go positive and that some people might call it negative ads. he calls it contrasting ads
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where you say this is what bernie sanders is for, that's what hillary clinton is for. it might be very negative but he says if it's a fact, i'm willing to do it. i think the bottom line is the sanders camp wants to stay positive, because bernie sanders has done far better than even he expected by being very positive but the bottom line is, they're looking at these other poll numbers that say that hillary clinton is simply not seen as being honest and trustworthy. he's already taken the e-mail issue off the table in the first debate bow on the wall street issue which animates his supporters he thinks she's vulnerable there. that's why you're seeing the tension you mentioned, shep. they're tempted to go more negative than they thought they would. >> ed henry live with the democratic side just three and a half hours until the first debate begins. meantime the teen who killed four people but avoided prison by claiming he suffered from affluenza is now back home in the united states. it has happened. we'll look at what's next for the kid who claimed he was too rich and too spoiled to know right from wrong to know not to
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drive with a blood alcohol level three times the legal limit. and the wife of the police officer who staged his own suicide now facing criminal charges. prosecutors say she helped him rip off a charity, and wait until you hear how they're accused of spending that money. that's all coming up from the fox news desk, on this debate day in the usa. iowa is about to vote. >> new hampshire is about to vote. >> this is a critical time. >> the candidates need to make their case. >> they need to resonate with voters. >> this is their chance. >> we will be fair and balanced. >> but we're not pulling any punches. >> our job is to get america's questions answered. >> to get people the facts they need. >> and we're going to do our job. >> this is the debate you need to see. >> it will be an important night. >> we can't get to get started.
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passengers and crew members suddenly got sick in the middle of a flight. the plane was headed from london to los angeles yesterday. at least six people on board complained of feeling light headed. the pilot flew back to london. passenger told "the daily telegraph" he saw a flight attendant collapse on the plane. no word on what caused the illness. in new jersey officials say a garbage truck exploded like a missile, damaging four homes. officials say the truck's natural gas tank blew up sending debris that tore a hole in the roof of a nearby home. no one was hurt. japan unveiled its first self-airplane. the new aircraft will make its first flight next month. news continues with shepard smith right after this.
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ethan couch arrived from mexico this morning. mexican authorities arrested him last month in the tourist city of puerto vallarta. he ran there after a video popped up on twitter that appeared to show him at a party during which there was a beer pong game. he avoided jail time after killing four people in drunk driving after his defense team argued he was too spoiled and rich to know right from wrong. he reportedly blew more than $2,000 on strippers and booze in a night in mexico and was so drurng workers had to carry him back to his hotel so mommy could pay his bill. take us through what happened once couch landed in dallas, casey? >> reporter: shep, just like all americans when you touch down in the united states from a foreign country, ethan couch had to clear customs once he touched down at dallas-ft. worth international airport this morning. he was wearing a camouflage hooded sweatshirt and he was flanked by u.s. marshals who
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escorted him on the plane. they came in on a commercial aero mexico flight direct from mexico city. ethan was loaded up in an unmarked white suv and driven about 30 miles or so to the juvenile justice center in ft. worth where he remains. there was no perp walk for him like we saw with his mother tanya when she came home. tar rant county sheriff dee anderson says everything went smoothly and happy to have him back here where it all started and ethan was hungry when he got here says the sheriff so they gave him lunch. shep? >> casey stegall, thank you. the wife of the crooked cop in illinois who stole cash from charity was in on the scam herself, that's the word from prosecutors today. the wife who got all sorts of sympathy when it looked like somebody murdered her husband in the line of duty. as it turns out he staged the whole scene. melanie glenowitz mug shot.
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she turned herself yesterday after learning of the grand jury's indictment against her. the officer's widow is charged with money laundering and using charitable funds for personal benefit including a trip she took to hawaii. judge set her bond at $500,000. i should say $50,000. you may remember her husband was the fox lake police lieutenant, joseph glenonitz. something of a hero around town known as g.i. joe. authorities say he shot himself on the 1st of september because he was afraid it would be revealed he embezzled tens of thousands from charity. there was a big manhunt, police on the search for suspected cop killers that didn't exist. we covered it for days on fox news channel. meantime attorneys for the cop's wife deny she took any part in her husband's scheme, telling the associated press in a statement, melody is a victim of her husband's secret action and looks forward to her day in court to show the world her innocence.
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let's bring in fox news legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. arthur, is she in big trouble? >> it's a paper case, all about money, it's about family money, about their lifestyle. the bernie madoff case many of us didn't know why he ran in and pled guilty so quickly, and the conventional wisdom, it was to save his wife, that if he came in and fell on his sword and went to jail for the rest of his life they would leave his wife alone because there was indication she knew or should have known what took place. here, if they were living a lifestyle that was clearly beyond the financial means of the sheriff, then either he's a real good gambler at the races or she knew or should have known that in fact she was involved in a money laundering scheme, some wire fraud, tax evasion, something along those lines and a lot of people lost money here. there was a nasty thing that he did, the way he took this money. obviously no one should take
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their own life but she's going to face some serious questioning and maybe some serious jail time. >> now the indictment itself is a result of the prosecutor taking all the evidence in, showing to a group of peers here's what we have on her. do you think this is worth continuing? >> and usually in this type of case she didn't go in there and defend herself. >> right. >> the majority of the time, unless the other side comes in and defends themselves, they get an indictment and shepard the reason somebody doesn't defend them, the lawyers say not a word except can i step outside and talk to my client in the hallway. she didn' testify here. this is the type of case one of the harder types to fight because it's, ladies and gentlemen, the husband makes $50,000 a year, but they just got a new mercedes 350 that cost $65,000, their mortgage payments are this, so therefore it's probably a lot of circumstantial evidence. probably no video of her are audio saying i know my husband
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is embezzling all this money. how do we have this lifestyle if he's only a sheriff making x amount of dollars. >> you figure his colleagues were all kinds of put off. this is a guy who makes good cops look bad. he was acting as if everything was fine, like he was following some suspects and instead he was about to kill himself to try to cover up all he'd done or escape from it. >> that's why you never could jump to conclusions in any of these cases. i've been wrong about it, you have to wait until -- i say this to juries all the time, you can't jhung the book by its cover. it's cliche but true but this case epitomizes the fact something as it appears to be, this hero cup raising money, being in charge of charities, that's definitely not what it was, and now it seems like his wife is the one who will answer a lot of questions at the very least. >> yep, arthur, thank you. >> thank you. there's word u.s. military leaders are considering taking action in yet another country, as part of the war against the islamic state. analysts say the terrorists are
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and you may lose blood sugar control, which could be serious. ask your doctor about toujeo®. u.s. military leaders are talking about plans to take action in libya now as part of the war against the islamic state according to a pentagon spokesman. small group of u.s. forces has already been on the ground in libya making contact with militia leaders trying to determine who they could use as allies. the white house today said president obama has been discussing libya with members of his national security team and possible cooperation with european allies. you may remember libya is a huge mess, the country's rich with oil and analysts say there's been a power vacuum there, ever since u.s. and coalition air strikes helped the rebels overthrow the dictator moammar gadhafi in 2011 during the arab spring what they then called the not war in libya. the rebels killed moammar gadhafi after they found him
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hiding in a drainage ditch outside his hometown and isis fighters took control of that city last year as part of their expansion in libya. ambassador skip goeneim is former assistant secretary of defense and right now the director of middle east policy forum at the george washington university. good to see you, sir. >> hi, shep, how are you today? >> the not war there in libya, we weren't having a war but now we have to go back in there. what are your thoughts? >> well, it's just as you said a country in chaos, and lawlessness, and this is exactly the kind of breeding ground isis and al qaeda love to go into and they are there and they are breeding and growing in strength, and something needs to be done and the frustration is the very one you talked about, which is who are the allies. who can you anchor with on the ground and while i do believe air strikes as we do in syria and iraq can be useful.
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it's only to a certain extent, without forces on the ground to secure the territory that you've just driven al qaeda out of, you're not going to be successful over time. >> of course, if you go further than air strikes, there are inherent dangers that we've discussed for years now. >> that's exactly right, and again, the frustration, and the parties in libya are so fragmented, and again, the problem, and we've seen it in syria, the allies that you like in one particular circumstance end up being allies of the person you don't like in another circumstance. what do you do? so it's a really difficult situation. >> what is the right course of action in your estimation? >> well i think that air strikes against leadership, against a certain amount of their, where they have their ammunition or their headquarters does serve a purpose. it does disaggregate their ability, but the problem, of
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course, is that they just move around to a different place, and what we've seen in syria, in particular, and mosul, too, is that they'll move into civilian areas and move into houses with civilians, so that it's very difficult to attack them without having civilian casualties. >> is there a real risk that isis could get control there? >> i would say that they're going to have the same problem we have, and that is that you've got all of these local militias with their entrenched positions with tribes. they're not going to be able to take over libya easily, but they can spread their influence, and they can use the area that they control to really destabilize neighbors, that's egypt, which would be a disaster, but also sub-saharan africa, all of the african countries and we've seen trouble in the hotels that the groups are going and there's europe. this is not a good development. >> it just feels like it keeps
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spreading. >> it is spreading. it is, indeed, because, in fact, i should just say, the isis group in libya is directly directed, sorry about the english there, by there -- by raqqah and mosul. the islamic state in syria have sent fighters into libya, so this is not just a group that's affiliated by ideology. these are actually part of the structure. >> mr. ambassador, thanks for the insight. the sonic booms that have been shaking parts of the east coast, we just got off the phone with norad and the mystery has gotten stranger. what boomed so loudly it knocked the snow off the roofs of our new jersey bureau? new information coming next. ♪
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the x1 voice remote is here. updating new jersey weirdness and the sonic booms that have rocked parts of new jersey up into new york state. our pentagon team has been busy working military context trying to figure out what's going on he here. peter doocy has an update. >> the ground was shaking and people's houses were rattling but nobody can figure out why that is. we called the faa. they said to call the military. so we got on the phone with mcgwire air force base and they said they don't have anything in the air that would produce a sonic boom which is a thunder-like sound that happens when an aerospace vehicle flies faster than the speed of sound. mcgwire air force space doesn't have anything. we asked norad. they told us no earthquake event
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has been recorded by the seismic network in that area. the only thing we currently have information on is the one regarding a sonic boom. on a very tumultuous crazy news day, things get crazier. >> leave it to new jersey. thank you. twitter has its own speculation. many on twitter on blaming china. many on twitter or blaming iran. many on twitter are blaming obviously because it's new jersey, aliens. then there's a segment that gets into political leadership that we'll leave alone. twitter's bird has flown away as jersey is rocking today. we'll be back to a nod to this day in history and a look back at the first day on the job for one of the most iconic people in all of american sports, and it happened on this day in history. announcer: a horrific terror attack in paris.
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the air against the back drop of the northern lights. amazing scene. it happened in norway earlier this month. parra gladers from spain, has nothing to do with the sonic booms in new jersey. he said it was hard core flying around in the dark in very cold temperatures. it may have been worth it for that incredible view. on this day in 1959, green bay packers hired coach vince lombardi. they had won just one game in the previous season but over the next decade lombardi led the packers to five championships and what's known as the lombardi trophy. he never had a losing season in his career as head coach. after the packers hired a legend, 57 years ago today. when news breaks out we'll break in.
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just about four hours now -- three hours from the big debate. we'll be here for that as well. they start at 7:00 eastern. the dow is giving us a nice day as well. it's all good. we're glad you're with us. "your world" starts right now. what's up with this thing? >> are you -- >> i am -- this is -- you talk about negative stuff, really? based on what? >> i don't know. >> based on david brock's long history of honesty and integrity? the man who tried to destroy anita hill, is this where this is coming from? >> all this time you've been focusing on the republicans, feel the bern, everybody. welcome, i'm neil cavuto and you are looking at a world of anger on the part right now technically of the democratic front-runner, bernie sanders, attacking those who are questioning his integrity and with the not so valed reference, suspecting it might be coming from the hillary clinton
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