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factor." again, thanks for watching us tonight. miss megyn isle toi inin ining coming up next. i'm billo'reilly. please remember the spin stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. just hours away from the most consequential day of this election thus far and republican front-runner donald trump is in the middle of an ugly new controversy. good evening, and welcome to "the kelly file," everyone, i'm megyn kelly. tomorrow morning, super tuesday, five republican contenders are on the ballot in nearly a dozen states. 595 delegates are at stake. that's nearly half the number needed to clinch the gop nomination for president. and dominating the headlines today, donald trump and his refusal on sunday to condemn the ku klux klan. it started last week when former klan grand wizard and white supremacist david d supported trump's candidacy. at first, mr. trump disavowed
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dave duke's support but then yesterday trump was asked about it again on cnn, and this time he declined to condemn duke claiming he didn't know who david duke was. in moments, we will be joined on this by former republican presidential candidate, governor mike huckabee, and republican new york congressman peter king. but we begin tonight with trace gallagher who has the very latest. trace? >> reporter: and megyn, to be clear, david duke has not endorsed donald trump but on his radio show duke did say supporting someone other than trump is, quote, really treason to your heritage. for those unfamiliar with duke, not only is he the former grand wizard of the ku klux klan, he was also a one term republican state representative in louisiana, has unsuccessfully run for u.s. congress, the u.s. senate, and has three times run for president as a democrat, a republican, and a member of the reform party. in fact, in 2000, donald trump refused to run for president a
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as a reform party candidate because at the time trump said, quoting here, the reform party now includes a klansman, mr. duke, a knneonatzi, mr. buchana and a communist, ms. fulani. this is not company i wish to keep. when asked about his support, he said this. >> will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election? >> just so you understands i don't know anything about david duke, okay? >> would you say unequivocally you condemn them and don't want their support? >> well, i have to look at the group. i mean, i don't know what group you're talking about. >> i'm talking about david duke an the ku klux klan here. >> honestly, i don't know david duke. >> now trump claims he had trouble hearing the questions because he had a faulty earpiece. but listen again to part of the interview. it appears trump hears the entire question because he uses
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the same words during the answer. watch. >> will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election? >> well, just so you understand, i don't know anything about david duke. okay? i don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. so i don't know. >> many are also wondering why not disavow david duke on sunday when trump had no problem disavowing him two days earlier? >> watch. >> how do you feel about the recent endorsement from david duke? >> i didn't even know he endorsed me. david duke endorsed me? okay. all right. i disavow. okay? >> no surprise the conflicting answers were pounced on by trump's opponents. listen. >> i don't care how bad the ear piece is, ku klux klan comes through pretty clearly and he refuses to ciriticize it. >> we should all be united in
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saying the klan is reprehensible and has no place in politics. >> the last gop presidential nominee, mitt romney, also weighed in posting on twitter, quoting a disgusting and disqualifying response by donald trump to the kkk, his coddling of repugnant bigotry is not in the character of america." hillary clinton, bernie sanders and the white house also took swipes at trump for his answers regarding the kkk. megyn? >> trace, thank you. joining me now with more, former republican presidential candidate, governor mike huckabee. governor, great to see you. what do you make of that? let's start with mitt romney's response suggesting this is coddling of bigotry and disqualifying for donald trump. >> hi. i'm amazed that mitt would say that. i mean, donald trump has repeatedly disavowed david duke, disavowed the klan. >> when did he repeatedly disavow the klan? >> well, he did it in his twitter accounts he did it on friday. >> the klan or david dukes?
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>> well, both. and i don't know of anybody who has ever suggested that donald trump is a racist. i'm not speaking as somebody who's out there advocating for trump. i just want to say that i just don't think that donald trump has given any indication that he's supportive of the ku klux klan. >> not accepting that interview -- not accepting that interview is what his critics say because it was so strange he would say on friday, i disavow david duke, and then when specifically asked on sunday, act like he didn't know who david duke was. >> you know, i can't answer that. you know, i really can't. you'll have to ask donald trump because i haven't talked to him about it. but the fact is -- >> how do you explain that? his critics say the explanation is he heard very well and he was trying to give some sort of a dog whistle -- >> his critics say. >> -- to people in the south who don't want to hear david duke disavowed. that's what mitt romney is suggesting.
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>> mitt romney wasn't on the earpiece, neither was marco rubio or ted cruz. >> you know that, he repeated back david duke to jake tapper. >> yeah. look, here's the one thing i think is important is donald trump a racist? i don't think he is. does donald trump support the kkk? heavens no. i don't think anybody seriously is suggesting that he is giving a wink and a nod at the kkk. they're a deplorable entity. sometimes i'm amazed they even still exist. i don't know of anybody who embraces them anymore exempt a ha handful of crazy people. >> what makes his response to jack tapper so confusing to me. >> that's why i have to wonder what did he hear -- did he misunderstand it? i just don't know -- >> governor, you know what he heard. he repeated back david duke and -- >> no, i don't know. >> -- white supremacist right to jake tapper. you at least know he heard that. >> right. and one of the things that has
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happened, he disavowed friday, he disavowed today. i don't know why he didn't say it as clearly on sunday to jake tapper. i simply don't know. but i think the issue is not why did one time out of a dozen did he stumble with that name, stumble with the question. the issue is, why don't people take all of the other different -- very clear answers he's given and i don't think that this is the big issue going into super tuesday. i think there are important issues. unfortunately, we lost all of them. >> if we're dealing with, you know, a difference in perception toward some americans versus others, it's obviously relevants. that's what his krcritics would say. comes on the heels of criticizing a judge in a case in which trump is being sued for allegedly defrauding people subscribing to his trump university in which case trump just dismissed the judge in that case and a negative ruling for trump saying, well, he's spanish, he's hispanic.
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that's fine, but he's hispanic. so he just got hit for making an odd reference to someone's national origin a couple days before he said this. i mean, do you find that problemproble problemat problematic? >> i thought -- >> does anybody think there's racism? and i'm saying this is what the critics have been hitting him for. >> the critics have been hitting him all over the place for everything and i think that's part of politics. i think the whole election has gotten silly, it's gotten out of control. the back and forth with all of the candidates has become absurd. we need to be focusing on the issues that really touch every american every day. and unfortunately, we've been lost in the size of ears and hands and wetting pants. >> that's w-e-t-t-i-n-g.
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not wedding pants like tuxedo pants. >> no, wetting. >> it's come to that. >> it's crazy. it's time to get this whole train back on the track. part of that would be to say if somebody has an allegation that donald trump ever does, perhaps, one day would embrace the kkk, bring it forth. i just don't see any evidence of that. it's not ef devident in his fam his business. i think it would have showed up before now. >> understood. grom governor, great to see you. our next guest is steven king, who had this to say about the interview yesterday. "trump told jake tapper he doesn't know who david duke is or white supremacist organizations stand for. if trump's statement is true, he's genuine dumb. if he's lying, that is shameful. either case, he should not be running to lead the united states." joining me now is peter king. trump said he had a bad earpiece and didn't necessarily hear.
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trump's history doesn't suggest he's a racist. >> first of all, the earpiece was obviously working. he was repeating him verbatim what the question was. there's nothing tricky about this. this is nuclear science. david duke, that should have been a two-second answer, david duke is evil, i don't want to support, ku klux klan is evil, i don't want their support. this isn't like obamacare, the budget, this is a good question of good, bad, good, evil. >> in trump's defense, he did on friday on camera then on facebook and twitter condemn david duke prayer to not condemning him with tapper. >> yeah, again, this is part of the erratic nature of donald trump. you notice the first time he disavowed it he didn't it almost in an annoying way, okay, i disavow him, okay, satisfied? almost annoyed he was asked the question. jake tapper asked him in a serious way, donald trump seemed to resent being asked the question. he'll sigh whatever he has to
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say about the moment,s he's temperamental and erratic and doesn't realizes consequences of what he's saying. he's saying he's going to stand up to putin, have international trade agreements and arms deals and everything else, he couldn't handle jake tapper on the question of whether or not he accepted the support of david duke. this to me is emblematic of trump's style. says what he has to say, if he gets caught, he lies about it. the consequence of what he's saying. >> what he told tapper two days after he disavowed david duke, honestly, don't know david duke. this is what happened with a "the new york times" reporter who was born with a congenital issue and trump imitated, it appeared he was imitating that congenital issue. and then when caught, he said, i didn't even know him, i wasn't imitating him, i didn't even know him. >> yeah. >> serge came out and said i covered him for 20 years, he absolutely knows me, i interviewed him a dozen times, we're on a first-name basis. and said the same thing that trump was running away from an
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allegation he made that got him in hot trouble rather than, you know, admitting what he had done. >> when in trouble, he lies. he lies fr s flagrantly. and has gotten away with it. we have to keep it from happening in the future. no way he can defend the interview with david duke. out and out lying about it. a guy who says he's tough, a tough guy from queens. i grew up in queens. the neighborhood he grew up in queens is where rich, pampered kids lived. no tough guy ever came out of there. i can tell you that. it's a bluff, bravado. saw it with jake tapper, saw it with you, bring you back into it. this guy will say whatever he has to say and when he's confronted, he backs down, i didn't mean that, i meant something else. he's not qualified to be president. >> congressman peter king. good to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> count on fox news tomorrow for super tuesday coverage starting at 6:00 p.m. the biggest night so far in the
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2016 race. 13 states and nearly 600 delegates are up for grabs for the gop. we'll bring you the results as they come in live tomorrow night. it's going to be an exciting night. this could be it, folks. don't miss it. and the next gop debate is this thursday march 3rd, 9:00 p.m. right here on the fox news channel. yours truly will be moderating alongside brett baer and chris wallace. all the candidates are planning on attending. don't miss it, 9:00 p.m. thursday. still ahead, before the votes are cast on super tuesday, there is some confusion on what exactly is at stake an whether we could be looking at fewer candidates to come. we break down the numbers and likely scenarios then dr. ben carson is here with his message for voters tomorrow. plus a stunning first amendment story that you have to see. after ben shapiro's invitation to speak at a public university leads to an epic effort to shut him down, wait until you see what happened.
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candidates are working around the clock. live pictures from fox affiliate kriv in houston where a ted cruz rally is about to begin. new polls out put donald trump more than 15 points ahead of his closist rival in the real clear politics national average. what exactly is at stage tomorrow? chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor. chris, great to see you. this is, what, 500-plus delegates so what should we be looking for tomorrow night? >> here's the way to think about. it is half of the delegates you need to win the republican nomination. it's a quarter of all of the delegates total. it is the biggest single day. now, it is broken down in a different way. once you get to the 15th of the month you get to winner take all boom, boom, boom, you can rack up a victory very quickly. this one will be proportional and break down into the expectation right now that if the preelection polling is accurate, that donald trump could win 40%, maybe 50% even based on one poll that seems kind of wild, but that maybe 40%
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or more of the total delegates could fall donald trump's way if some of these preelection polls are right. but we don't have a ton of reliable polling in these states and we don't have reliable certainly that can match up with a news cycle that is moving this fast. >> a lot of these polls were taken prior to the last few big elections and events and debates so we don't know the temperature of the electorate but the national poll gives us some idea. let me ask you about ted cruz and marco rubio. ted cruz has said this is the biggest, the most important night in his campaign. it is. isn't it? >> sure, if he doesn't win texas, it's no bueno. >> if he doesn't win texas, do you expect him to announce he's getting out? >> depend on what he wants to happen with donald trump, depends on what he wants to happen with his party, a lot of stuff. depends on how well he and marco rubio can get along. rubio, his home state doesn't come until the 15th. basically it's true if you can't win your home state -- >> doesn't bode well. >> you can't go forward. >> how about rubio?
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he's not saying what state he expects to win, if any, on super tuesday. >> right. rubio needs a win somewhere. he needs to be at least clearly ahead of cruz and the delegate count. he needs to harness this momentum he has had with his lambasting of trump and fighting his way on to the front pages, fighting his way into the coverage with the tough talk with trump. he's got to show he can take add vantanage of that. a win would be nice. a ton of delegates are necessary. what cruz and rubio and the republicans have to do is hold trump down tomorrow because if he breaks loose, if he gets into open field running here, this sucker is over. >> now, up after you is ben carson. he can hear you. you better tell the truth, anyway. what does he need to do tomorrow? >> i'm going it use a series of hand sig -- no. that is -- ben carson has made it very clear that's between his voters and his donors and his lord, and whatever he's going to
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do, he's going to do. but the path for him just as it is for john kasich does not look robust from here. >> all right. i'm going to discuss that with the good doctor momentarily and it's all your fault. chris, great to see you. >> you bet. in past election cycles super tuesday is often a moment when we see the field narrow even further. but dr. ben carson who occupies one of the last two spots in most polls today said he's not going anywhere despite growing calls in circles for him to drop out. in an op-ped on foxnews.com dr. carson saids, "it's a fundamentally undemocratic response to insinuate people should be stripped of their choice for the good of the party. i've vowed to continue our campaign as long as we have revenue and support until the people have decided." joining me now, dr. ben carson. food to see you. >> thank you. >> sorry about that. you've heard others say you and john kasich, for that matter, don't have a path, they don't see a path forward for you realistically if you don't win significantly tomorrow. do you agree with that?
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>> it will be more difficult if we don't pick up some significant delegates tomorrow. i expect we may well do that. recognize a lot of things have happened in the last week. one of the things that happened, we had ha debate if you can call it that. after the debate i went into the spinroom and the most common question from the international correspondents was, aren't you embarrassed? isn't your country embarrassed? and, you know, the people of america i think are getting a much better chance to recognize who the people are who are running and is that the kind of person that they want representing the united states of america? >> to whom are you referring? >> i'm referring to all five of us who are on that stage. they have an opportunity to see what kind of people we are, what gravitas do we bring to the
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stage, and are we really interested in solving the problem? >> when you see the dustup that we've seen today, for example, between marco rubio and donald trump, is it embarrassing to the republican party? >> i believe it is, absolutely. >> why? >> i think we should be talking -- because i think we should be talking about the issues that threaten our country. we should be talking about the national debt. have you heard any politician talking about the fiscal gap? and yet you're talking about the financial foundation of our country. >> or isis. >> yeah, or isis, how we're going to deal with them. how we're going to deal with an incredible educational crisis that's going on. i don't hear much talk about that at all. that impacts upon our national security. >> i ask you because your adviser, armstrong williams, said super tuesday will be a moment of truth for your campaign and said it will be obvious if your predictions of what could happen for your campaign don't come to fruition, it's obvious what the outcome will be.
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he's signaling you're going to get out after super tuesday if you don't have a great night. will you? >> well, you know, armstrong is entitled to his opinions. i have multiple advisers. and i am not really listening to the pundits. i'm listening to my donors. i'm listening to my supporters. and i have millions of them and they're saying, please do not get out, we don't want to be left in a situation where we have to choose between the lesser of evils. i think they have a right to say that. >> last question for you. donald trump, you heard the dustup on sunday with jake tapper, a day or two after saying he disavowed david duke, he said he didn't know who david duke was and did not disavow him in that interview or the kkk. mitt romney today suggesting he is coddling bigotry and that this is a disqualifying moment for him. your thoughts on that? >> well, i'm a little surprised to know that he doesn't know who
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david duke is. that's really quite shocking and that probably should be the area that maybe is investigated a little bit more. but i hope when he learns who david duke is he would run another direction. >> he has disavowed him at least, you know, on friday then online, but do you agree with mitt romney that this is, quote, disqualifying and disgusting? >> certainly if he did not disavow him, that would be disqualifying, but if he comes out and very clearly and vigorously says i want nothing to do with a hate group, then i think that's fine. >> dr. carson, always great to see you. >> thank you, megyn. >> all the best. another big political story broke late today when reports surfaced that "the new york times" apparently has off-the-record audio tape of mr. trump offing a new take on one of his toughest immigration stands or so the reports
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breaking tonight, a report from buzzfeed getting a lot of attention today as the website reports, "donald trump secretly told "the new york times" what he really thinks about immigration." or did he? carl cameron is our chief political correspondent. he has the details. carl? >> reporter: thanks, megyn. on the eve of super tuesday with almost half of the delegates necessary to clinch the republican nomination, there are new questions tonight about the true feelings of front-runner donald trump when it comes to how to deal with illegal immigration. both ted cruz and marco rubio are taking trump to task and earlier today they both demanded that he give permission to "the new york times" to release audiotapes of a january
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editorial board that trump had with the editors of "the new york times," some on the record and some off the record. according to some reports now, trump may have suggested when it comes to illegal immigration, he might not deport all 11 million and when it comes to his steps to reform legal immigration, what he may have been saying to the board of -- the ed board at "the new york times" in the off the record segment was that while he says some things on the campaign trail, he may not actually believe them but what he's doing is staking out bargaining positions in order, in trump's words, eventually to cut a deal. today, ted cruz called trump out and said he should give the name noo "the new york times" permission to release the off the record audiotape to clear the air. cruz said if trump is lying to the voters, the voters deserve to know and if trump didn't express different opinions in the off the record segment, he should be able to essentially be exonerated by calling on "the new york times" to release the tape and prove that he didn't say it. marco rubio chimed in on it as
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well. they are both now pounding trump. he's taken more attacks from these two in the last week than in any time during his campaign. and it is not going to stop. obviously tomorrow's a very big night for trump. he's expected to win more delegates than any other candidate, but with this question about his signature issue now looming with both ted cruz and marco rubio coming at him, trump may have to answer questions about whether his immigration policy and proposals were essentially fraudulent. very, very tough stuff coming on the -- tomorrow on the eve of one of the most consequential election days that takes place so far, megyn zblmplg. joining me now with more, katrina pierson and a founding partner at strategic partners and media. stewart, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> the implication is trump's behind closed door language of what he's going to do on illegal immigration does not match his
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tough rhetoric and the question by the other candidates is should he call on "the times" to release the tapes? your thoughts? >> of course he should. look, these remarks aren't being audited. he doesn't have any excuse not to. i don't understand why in the world he wouldn't demand that "the new york times" release it. we've had sort of a pattern here of whether or not he said this or did this or comes up with different excuses. it's simple. they've got an audiotape. we're not talking about notes. play the audiotape so everybody can hear it. >> yeah, but these candidates all go in and have some off the record discussions with journalists, and what kind of a precedent does it set if one of the reporters receiving the off the record communication sort of with a wink and nod tells the world there's something dicey in here and the candidate gets pressured to release it? it's like you can't ever have the off the record briefing. >> well, first of all, we don't know where it came from, this
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idea that what he did say this, we don't know that it came from "the new york times." >> well, we do because buzzfeed is reporting that gale collins' saturday piece is, quote, a bit more than speculation according to sources familiar with the recording and the transcript. in her column, she was addre addressing trump saying so you obviously can't explain how you're going to deport 11 million immigrants because it's going to be the first bid in a monster negotiation session. they're suggesting he's not really going to do it, it's just a first bid. >> look, the way to clear this up, as you know, if the source calls for it to be released, they should release it. that happens all the time. you get called by reporters. you go off the report then they come back and say i'd like to use this, is it okay to put that on the record? you go sure, or not. he should put this on the record and come forward then everybody can know what was said. this wasn't a bar conversation. it wasn't something that just happened in passing. the editor of "the new york
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times," you'd think he's being careful about ha he says and means what he says. >> before i let you go, stu, your thoughts on the david duke/kkk controversy? >> listen, i think it's disgusting. i don't believe that he didn't know exactly what he was doing, that on the eve of the southern primaries that he was out there trolling for votes in some despicable way. look, for my point of view, i think donald trump has crossed a line. to support him really has become a moral question, not just a political question. everybody has to come to their own decision. ronald reagan said a time for choosing. i don't think you can go back now where donald trump is trying to take this party. >> stuart, great to see you. >> see you. katrina pierson is also here, the national spokesperson for the trump campaign. so let's start with this "new york times," this buzzfeed report about trump's meeting with "the new york times" and whether -- i'll start with what his critics are saying that you
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should tell the world whether donald trump is going to call on "the new york times" to release the transcript. >> well, i think, megymegyn, mo people would agree donald trump doesn't play by the rules everyone else sets upon them. donald trump suspe donald trump isn't going to call for anything to be released just because ted cruz or marco rubio said so. first i'll say that. second this, this interview was back in january. all of a sudden in the 25th hour the night before the election, all of a sudden there's some top-secret bombshell? give me a break. this is politics at its finest. >> you think this is a political hit by the "the new york times"? >> it's completely a political hit. byron york met with mr. trump and did an exclusive interview written in the "washington examiner" and even talked about making deals and negotiations but not on the core issues of deportation and other issues that are in his actual platform. so this is nothing that's top secret, megyn. >> he said -- he told byron york that it doesn't mean i'm hard and fast 100%.
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he said, it doesn't mean i'm not going to negotiate a little bit, but i have very strong positions on the issue. so, i mean -- >> exactly. >> if that's all "the times" has they should release it. let's talk about the david duke/kkk thing. why didn't he say what he said on friday, which is iounce david duke, period? >> you're absolutely right. the problem with the second interview, the one sunday morning, he did have trouble hearing at the very first when jake tapper mentioned an organization that mr. trump was not familiar with. if you listen to mr. trump throughout the entire interview, he keep talking about groups, oo organizations, not individuals. he did not have a name correlation. he said, jake, send me what you have so i can see what you have before i cast a judgment. >> i did go back to look at that. with all due respect to bill, he doesn't get to decide that, the voters do. but i did go back and look at
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it. tapper asked him, will you unequivocally condemn david duke and say you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election? that's what he asked him. he said, i don't know anything about david duke, i don't know what you're talking about with white supremacists, i don't know. so he heard what tapper said. david duke and white supremacist. there wasn't anything about other groups. and trump indicated that he heard both pieces of it, duke and white supremacist. >> right. the miscommunication came in at the very beginning when -- >> that is the very beginning. that is the very beginning. >> the anti-defamation league is what jake tapper started with. >> i want to ask you about the anti-defamation league -- >> which mr. trump didn't know anything about. >> he doesn't know who the anti-defamation league is? >> he wasn't connecting the names to nothose organizations. jake tapper mentioned groups early on. mr. trump kept referring to
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groups throughout the entire thing. mr. trump has condemned david duke, doing it all weekend. all of a sudden one innocent where he was refused about the groups jake tapper was talking about, it's a big deal. it's not a big deal. mr. trump has condemned david duke. by the way, david duke did not endorse trump so it is a nonissue. >> he didn't endorse him but clearly is supporting him and told his followers duke is now the -- >> mr. trump can do nothing about that, megyn. he can do nothing about who is supporting him. >> it's easy to say i don't want anything to do with him. let's play the -- i want the audience to hear what ronald reagan said -- it's not on tape. okay. ronald reagan apparently came out when the klan leaders in georgia endorsed him and said those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant politics of hate. the politics of racial hatred and ridge bigotry practiced by the klan and others have no
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place in this country and are destructive of the values for which america has always stood. >> that's what they wanted to hear. reagan said i didn't endorse them, they endorsed me. david duke came out and said i did not endorse donald trump, all the headlines for the entire day has been the kkk endorses trump. that's not true. when trump heard about it he disavowed it unequivocally and immediately. when he was confused about the groups jake tapper was talking about, we heard tlshere was no endorsement. mr. trump said, let me know who you're talking about -- >> he made very clear who he was talking about. tru trump is claiming his earpiece didn't work. david duke told his people it's their duty to vote for donald trump because it would be against their heritage if they voted for, quote, these people, these other people running. but that is -- >> mr. trump can't control anything anybody says to anyone. >> absolutely not. i don't mean to tar him with david duke, it's based on the ek
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change he had with tapper. kat, great to see you. >> great to see you. as we wait to see what ted cruz offers up as his message to voters tomorrow, judge napolitano on whether ted cruz is eligible to run. hundreds of protesters show up at a public college to shut down a speech by conservative writer ben shapiro. ben is sheer on what he thinks is really behind an attempt to silence him. pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies. then your eyes may see it differently. only flonase is approved to relieve both your itchy, watery eyes and congestion. no other nasal allergy spray can say that. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase changes everything.
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student s entering right now ar being sneaked in, in america 2016 you have to use the back door if you want to participate in free speech, block the front door if you're a member of the left. this is how it's written. and there it is, gang. guess what. you know what, they're not going to stop us. >> ben shapiro is editor in chief at dailywire.com. ben, great to see you. they invited you there, this young group and the university was not happy about it. initial hily tried to stop it. one professor in particular was ripping down the fliers threatening students for posting them but you showed up. take it from there. >> yeah, well the president of the university attempted to cancel the speech. i told him to screw himself, i was coming anyway because that was a violation of free speech rights. about an hour and half before i was scheduled to come to campus, i didn't know if they were going
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to try to arrest me. he backed down, we'll hold the event, make sure there's enough security it's safe. i started getting messages on text and twitter, there was violence going down. by the time we got there, there were helicopters, cops everywhere, every single entrance and exit had been barricaded and blocked by the students. the police were doing nothing to move them. by the time i got in, i had to be escorted in not only by my own security but armed police officers and they were sneaking the students in four at a time through the back door protesters hadn't yet discovered. >> obviously this is a public university, don't understand anything about first amendment which is the answer to speech you do not like is not less speech, it's more speech. you don't shut down the initial speech, you have your own event, you offer your own viewpoints. but they were rows deep threatening you, people were getting pushed around and the people who wanted to get in to see you were getting stopped by the cops apparently, you say, under directions from the university?
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>> so basically what i say is the police officers were doing nothing. been told by the university do not move any of the protesters who locked arms and blocking off the doors so nobody could get through. plenty of video on instagram and youtube of people attempt to get in to listen being pushed around by members of the audience, screaming at them, cursing them, assaulting them. a reporter from breitbart was d. it truly was the fascist left at work. >> i take it no apology was forthcoming? >> no. no, of course not. the only apology they wanted was an apology from me then from the president for allowing me to speak in the first place. again, i'm a california taxpayer. i pay for all these to go to college and all these professors to protest and try to tear down fliers. it's more evidence that there is a movement within the left, a very hardcore fascist movement within the left to shut down speech they disagree with, to punish physically people who
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they don't like. that's why at the very end i turned to the student the and said do you want to go out there and confront protesters? i was told by the police officers, if you do that, there could actually be a riot, we don't have the capacity to protect you or the other students. i'm talking about ten uniformed officers at the time scheduled to protect me. >> a professor when people were placing fliers on the board apparently went down, tore down the fliers, called campus security and called the students fascists who wanted to hear you speak. ben, thank you for being here. >> thanks so much. >> taking your thoughts on that. facebook.com/thekellyfile. up next, did the university break any laws? this is a public university. did they break the law? plus will a citizenship lawsuit be able to move forward against texas senator and presidential hopeful ted cruz? judge you owned your car for four years,
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cannot do something silence you because it doesn't like your message. if this was a private university, this is a different story. this is the government. government-owned property. the supreme court said not only silence him, has a duty to protect him to say what he's brought there to say and people that want to hear him hear his words. >> trying to deliver a message about the ridiculousness of safe spaces and micro aggressions and the trigger warnings that college students need and so sensitive they can't hear the other side on that and the professors behind them. >> this is essentially a speech about the virtues of the freedom of speech and that's what was silenced. >> had to shut down. when's happening with the lawsuits against ted cruz and his eligibility? >> i don't think it goes anywhere. the news peg today is that it was filed by a very serious lawyer who has no skin in the game. it is not a donald trump supporter. it's not a marco rubio supporter. it's a serious chicago lawyer. who filed a meaningful lawsuit and a meaningful document
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supporting it. my own view, he fits squarely within a 1790s era statute saying if one of your parents is an american citizen who spent at least one year of his or her life in the united states before you were born, you are a natural born citizen. >> how about hillary clinton? because we heard earlier today from katherine herridge yet more e-mails have been released that are classified. now the number tops 2,000? >> over 2,000 e-mails that mrs. clinton says when she looked at them she didn't know that they were confidential,r top secret. that is utterly without belief. some of these which mention drone strikes, some of them which mention the names of undercover people working for foreign governments and for us, some of these have transcripts of conversations of foreign government leaders and she didn't know ♪ one day a rider made a decision.
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tomorrow night -- super tuesday. join yours truly and brett bair for the biggest night race so far. do you know what that's a reference to? see you tomorrow! 6:00. welcome to "hannity." tonight, coming to you from beautiful georgia where 2016 republican presidential front-runner donald trump will be joining us in just a minute. now, we have a big audience and made up of trump supporters, members of georgia and georgia republican groups, students from the university now that's all ahead of tomorrow's super tuesday showdown. we have a brand new cnn/orc national poll showing mr. trump is dominating with 49% of the vote. senator marco rubio in second wi
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