the course of the summer. he felt there was a really good bench out there and it was time for new people to move in. apparently donald trump wasn't who he had in mind. >> nice theater, hot? >> is in that beautiful? >> good setting for verbal sparring pickup . >> it's going to be a stunning debate tonight and i cannot wait. >> 9:00 eastern time with chris, brett and megan. we will have the fallout tomorrow. >> have a great day everybody. happening now starts right now. jon: of fox news alert tokick things off their former presidential nominee mitt romney getting ready to charge into the 2016 freight minutes from now with what looks to be a blistering takedown of the front-runner donald trump welcome to happening out there i'm jon scott pickup innaritu . jenna: and i jenna lee for we do have excerpts of course of the speech. former governor romney will

deliver obtained by fox news and they indicate he will make his case using forceful language, calling trump quote, a phony and a fraud and urging republicans to shun the billionaire businessman for the good of the country and of the party to for his part, trump responded this morning after excerpts of the speech became public. >> romney was a failed candidate to go should have beaten barack obama easily. i brought millions of people because i saw your report into the republican party over the last short period of time. it's the biggest story in politics how many people are flocking to the republican party. jenna: here's a look at the stage at the university in salt lake city where romney is set to speak at the bottom of the hour. we have that for you like pickle all this coming as the candidates prepare to square off in tonight's debate in detroit moderated by our own brett, maiden and chris that state is set to be a little less crowded after ben carson issued a statement saying he no

longer sees a path forward in his bid for the white house and will not attend he will not be part of tonight's debate. he has not officially suspended his campaign. he says wait for friday for no more news from him. let's bring the director of the center of politics at the university of virginia it's great to have someone with your history and polling to talk about what is transpiring today to your initial reaction to the romney event today and the impact it will have on donald trump at large euro. >> jenna, here's what's going on. the establishment wing of the republican party and some others not in the establishment wing that just oppose trump, some have awakened recently to the fact that donald trump might be the republican nominee and they decided it's going to be very difficult to defeat him during the primary season but what they need to do is to keep them below the magic number of 1237 delegates that you need to be nominated and therefore go to a contested convention. the romney speech today as i understand it is the first of a number of broadsides by a number of people that will

occur between now and march 15. why march 15? they think that's the key date to either deter trump from getting the nomination or recognize that it's inevitable. that's the day that winner take all begins. they want to see marco rubio win florida. they want to say john casey quinn ohio. and they are hoping to stop trump and other states like illinois and missouri and north carolina. who knows whether they can but that's what to expect. i think as we move toward march 15, which really could be the day for this campaignand i don't mean donald necessarily . jenna: he might think that. >> he might. jenna: what do you think will be the impact? that's a great map of the strategy as you understand the

next two weeks but the impact of today's speech, do you think it will move the needle at all either in favor of or perhaps not on donald trump? >> there's no way that mitt romney coming out in the way that he's going to will convince donald trump supporters and backers to move away. i just don't believe it. what romney can do and probably will do is to galvanize the anti-trump portion of the party. here's the problem though. unless he surprises us and endorses a candidate, that isn't in the formal speech but he could always add a line or two, if he endorses somebody then perhaps that galvanizes the anti-trump forces to move toward that candidate although i don't see any indication that marco rubio or ted cruz or for that matter even john kasich will move out of the race at this particular point in time.

jenna: there's a question about how much endorsements really matter. how much have a mattered in the past few weeks and how much will theymatter going forward. looking back on the rnc autopsy report , that's what it was referred to casually when it released almost three years ago to the day ironically, about what the party, the establishment as some say, what their reflections were after losing in 2012. in this particular line, and by the way this report was written by many of those who are now publicly critical of donald trump. in this report on page 45 they talk about voters making the best choices and that outside groups and activists should not make choices for voters. this recommendation caught my eye saying quote, what do you think the messages to voters today.

i'm sorry. washington should not try to dictate canada's choices. voters will ultimately decide. washington should not try to dictate candidates choices. voters will decide. what youthink about that recommendation and the risk now that the party is and if they are looking like they are against what voters want?>> yes, do what we say not what we do . of course that's true for all of us. and remember, politicians can turn on a dime. hypocrisy is the lifeblood of politics. i'm not calling mitt romney a hypocrite, i think he's a terrific american. he's done a lot of great things and all the rest of it but he welcomed donald trump's endorsement in 2012 and said a lot of great things about him and now of course it's a different story. nothing wrong with that. the conditions of politics change but the truth is that in this particular year , the republican activists, the grassroots seem particularly unlikely to listen to advice coming from those at the top, whether they are at the top in washington or at the top of their states or localities.

jenna: one of the things that mitt romney is expected to talk about who can beat hillary clinton or at least give his thoughts which is anybody but trump. that seems to be the theme. donald trump came out this morning and said i'm the only one that can be hillary clinton. mitt romney doesn't know how to win. hillary wants no part of trump. you take a look at polling larry and whether or not donald trump has a point. is he the only one that can be clinton according to the numbers question mark what do the numbers show us about a matchup between the two? >> it depends on the pole. let's use polling averages. the averages actually clinton does better against trump than she does against rubio or even cruise . and casey, i haven't seen that much data on him so i can't comment there but no, that's not what the polling shows. i have to say this. it's early march. how accurate were those polls last summer in projecting the fact that donald trump would be the front-runner? i don't think poll's about early november taken in march

tell us anything at all and the world will turn over many times between now and then. jenna: moving ahead past the speech, what are you watching for? we are all going to be watching together. what are you watching ford besides and out of line endorsement or an announcement to enter the race which we don't expect. but some of those lines slip in there. what are you watching for during the speech? >> i'm going to quote my wonderful late grandmother. she had a great saying, she used it a lot. talk is cheap but it takes money to ride the train. a lot of people are going to be talking against donald trump but how many people are going to put up how many millions do not just advertise but also organized on the ground to get out the vote against him? i'm not advocating it, i'm just saying in the end it's not what people say it's what they do and in politics what they do depends on the finances they have to do it with you.

jenna: it will be interesting to see. i'm hearing rumors of all this but as you mentioned, where's the action? we will see. larry, great to have your observations. great advice from your mom as well. she's welcome on our show anytime. after all this, you do not want to miss the debate here tonight on the fox news channel at night eastern time. we will be in a different stage at this point tonight. you're going to have romney, trump and then the debate tonight. moderators bret baier, megyn kelly and chris wallace only on the fox news channel. jon: big day in politics. detroit has become something of a poster child for urban decay and job loss. now the city and the rest of michigan avenue kind of problem. too many job openings with no one to fill them no one qualified that is. they are the source of jobs that require specialized training. mike tilden live in the motor city with that side of the story. mike? >> don't be distracted by this

beautiful theater as we talk about labor but as you mentioned, the problems in michigan is not people looking for work. it's worth looking for people but the catch is skilled labor. construction and technology right now are booming here in michigan but there's been flight out of michigan particularly after 2008 with the downturn. couple that with the fact that high school grads go to college and don't think about trade so michigan is at a loss for skilled labor. everything from it to nurses and welders. as it relates to construction projects, the skills gap as it's called ultimately slows projects and make them cost more. >> the availability of labor is causing our contractors to bid projects a little higher than they normally would bid them because they don't have adequate labor. they don't have the labor pool to handle all the projects going on. reporter: on a local level, activists and tradespeople are establishing boot camps were technology. trade schools, apprentice

programs.the solution involves telling young people there are options other than a four-year degree which can produce a viable career, when you can raise a family on. i talked with the one young man who spent three years at a university, piled up debt and never worked in the field. he spent several weeks at one of these technology boot camps and is now working in it for a big company. jon: mike silvan in that big theater. jenna: this could be a breakthrough perhaps in the hillary clinton email investigation. in her bid for the democratic nomination for the white house, theformer staffer who worked on clinton's private server no cooperating with the feds after the justice department reportedly granted him immunity . a lot in there but we are trying to piece this together. it could be a part of the story. kelly is live in washington with more. jenna: reporter: you may recall that brian partly on a refused

inquiries about setting up the server, invoking his fifth amendment rights against self-incrimination when he was asked to testify before the house committee on ben ghazi. that has changed. the granting of immunity or partly on a who was a staffer for clinton's 2008campaign who then followed her to the state department. this marks a standard prosecutorial procedure according to the us attorney i spoke to . it suggested the attorney made an offer made prior to any formal negotiations as to what partly on oak is willing to testify to. it suggested a methodological investigation working the peer amid from the bottom half. but if pagliano as of the bottom of that pyramid, he's also a foundation of thatperiod. he will be asked who told him to set up the server, how many conversations he had with clinton and with her staff. what were the substance of those conversations and did he destroy evidence or wipe the server clean and under whose orders. the washington post reported this morning there is no evidence a grand jury has yet been impaneled. a fox news contributor disagrees with that. >> the witness would only testify if a grand jury was

already hearing evidence so if a grand jury is hearing evidence the evidence was obtained by the fbi and delivered to the justice department. the justice department decided is going to indict someone. reporter: the former attorney i spoke to said he finds it hard to believe a grand jury has not already been impaneled. clinton's campaign response to this question mark they told the washington post it is pleased pagliano has agreed to immunity for his testimony. a spokesman told the post quote, as we have said since last summer, secretary clinton has been cooperating with the inquiry including offering in august to meet with them to assist their efforts if needed. based on pagliano's immunity deal, the former us attorney i spoke to said it could be 90 days or so before doj announces whether it will proceed with a criminal indictment. back to you. jenna: thank you. jon: a manhunt underway for an estate kidnapping and murder

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jenna: a manhunt underway in mississippi for estate murder suspect rafael mccloud. police say 33-year-old took a hostage before breaking out. they are using canine units to search for macleod is considered armed and dangerous. authorities charging a flight attendant with destruction of aircraft or aircraft facilities and lying to investigators. the fbi says he started a fire in a plane's laboratory and

pretended to discover it and extinguish it. police in fresno county california asking for the public self identifying two men involved in this convenience store robbery. one suspect ran out of the store with two 18 packs of beer. the other with two bottles of gatorade.they then drove off in a silver four-door car. jon: what are voters likely thinking ahead of tonight's big debate in detroit? on the heels of super tuesday? data collected by facebook can tell us that and a lot more. and green joins us live from detroit. reporter: this is a lot of fun because it tracks what people are talking about. the candidates, the issues. it's volume so it's not positive or negative but it gives us a look at the conversation on facebook. one of the neat new tools we have is the timeline so you can see we have all thecandidates in both parties and you can watch over time for the word , and you can see the conversation over time.

this starts november 6 and you can see where certain candidates had more of a headline, they would have been discussed more and as we get closer to now you see names like lindsey graham, others pop off there. joan gilmore eventually and as they drop off out of the race they are less part of the conversation and this is where we are now. if we want to look at a heat map of the country, more intense darker red shows there's more conversation about something so let's look at the candidates first. were going to start with donald trump because he is actually taking up a lot of the conversation here. almost the entire country is hot talking about him. positive or negative, it's conversation and traffic. next on the list, marco rubio. there are packets that are important. south carolina, there was a lot of pressure on him. this is over the last 30 days where south carolina had its primary. there was a lot of pressure on

him to rebound from new hampshire and pockets down here in florida where he would be discussed as well. he is banking on march 15 where he needs to have a win or finish well there. we can also do these heat maps looking at issues so let's do that. these are all the different issues that facebook tracks for conversation. the economy tends to be one of the top every time and looking at the heat map of that you can see all over the country there are pockets where it is uniform that people want to hear about that, talk about that and discuss it. integration as well. that has been a big part of the conversation. is broken down by gender, evenly spit by men and women. looking at the heat map again, you can see there are pockets but it's something a lot of the country has some kind of conversation about. those mirror the images we see, candidates and topics we see tonight from michigan. you're where we are in detroit, people concern about the issues and the same traffic for the candidates. if you get a lot of headlines, whether positive or negative you're going to be at the top of the list and that's where we

find donald trump and hillary clinton going into tonight's debate. jon: interesting. neither positive or negative but a lot of heat. shannon breen in detroit. jenna: as we know donald trump is taking heat from a select group of establishment republicans as well as experts from across the foreign policy and homeland security arena have been together, put together a letter, have a point of view.they say they are going to work hard to prevent a trump administration. we will have that letter for you coming up in just a moment. in the meantime, we are waiting to hear from mitt romney. we expect him around 11:30 eastern time. we have a good idea what he is going to say about donald trump and it is not favorable. we will watch and see if he has anything else. we will bring to you to the university of utah moments from now.

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jenna: dozens of conservative and foreign policy experts are signing to an open letter published at the foreign policy network. it reads in part this: mister trump's own statements lead us to conclude that as president he would use the authority of his office to ways that make america less safe and would diminish our standing in the world. furthermore, his view of how presidential power should be wielded against his detractors poses a distinct threat to civil liberty in the united states.they say they are banding together and will not support him on a ticket. more than 50 experts signed onto that letter including former homeland security expert michael chertoff, former secretary of state robert kelly and former homeland of security advisor francis. donald trump is firing back. >> fighting wars in the middle

east for 15 years, 18 years. we are into four or $5 trillion. we don't know what we're doing. we don't know who we're fighting. where arming people that we want on our side. we don't even know who they are. when they take over a country they are worse than the people they depose. give me a break. jenna: brett: you don't have to sign on to the letter, you get a column every week. it's very critical of donald trump. if you can step back and take a look at the advisors and what they have to say, what's your impression of this letter? why now and do you think it will be impactful? >> i hope it will be impactful. these are serious people. they all describe themselvesas republicans. they come however from a wide spectrum of the republican party in terms of their foreign policy views . and voters ought to take them seriously. i mean, the presidency of the united states is the most important job in the world and when trump expresses himself on foreign policy, he does so in ways that are, they can only be described as sort of wildly foolish. claiming that yours w bush lied

america into the iraq war. is simply factually wrong and it's a regurgitation of left-wing talking points. insisting that japan shouldbe paying us troops , marine sailors over there, signs like the kind of foreign-policy talking points of the mid-1980s. we want japan as our ally. we want japan on our side. and so trumps views and this goes to his views of super torture of detainees or his idea that saddam hussein was somehow a force for stability in the middle east are wildly inconsistent with the interests of the united states and certainly with anyone who calls himself or herself a serious conservative. jenna: but what he says, you heard a little bit from good morning america today, when he said look at the last couple of years. what's great about our foreign policy? he speaks bluntly to voters

want something different and one has to wonder brett, who really has different ideas. if you don't like trump, you don't like trump but who is presenting from the conservative side new , different ideas that will elicit a different result on the world stage? >> i think both marco rubio and ted cruz have offered thoughtful speeches. i don't always agree with them but they are sort of thoughtful consistent views of the world. problem is trumps foreign policy when you look at it resembles no one so much as barack obama and barack obama's wholeconcept of a foreign policy is to put america in retreat , to say that we have to walk away from the middle east, walk away from the world, concentrate on our own problems. trump does so with a great deal more bluster and with threats that president obama doesn't use but it's essentially the same idea and as we learn from syria, as we've learned from

walking away from iraq, as we learn from afghanistan when you simply walk away from these places they don't leave you alone, they come after you. jenna: but you think the conservatives that are criticizing donald trump have a role in creating donald trump and provoking voters to want something different then they been given over the last several years. >> mark barack obama or otherwise? >> i think what has motivated trumps rise is discontent with obama that has been misplaced on this imaginary republican establishment. whenever i describes as the republican establishment i'm always looking around hoping to find where my butler might be. i never managed to find him but there's this kind of fiction that a republican establishment has devised this foreign-policy. by the way, look, there's lots of different views about foreign-policy. you can agree or disagree with them. what trump is offering is not really a foreign-policy. it's the kind of knee-jerk reflexes of a guy who is angry as heck or has he likes to say

and his supporters like to say, being angry does not make for a consistent logical view of how the united states ought to conduct itself in the world and i've never heard trump say something that gives me an indication that he's a man whose fit to be commander-in-chief. jenna: it interesting whenyou say that because when you look at the exit : this states, voters donald trump at the very top or right near the top of which of the four candidates you would think would best handle an international crisis so it's interesting to have that point of view to consider as we go into the debate and beyond. thank you very much. great to have you back as always. jon: a fox news alert and a live look at the university of utah now. it's in salt lake city where former massachusetts governor rick mitt romney is set to lay out his case against the first current front-runner donald trump. what is highly charged moment means for the bruising battle for the republican nomination,

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jon: now to the university of utah and mitt romney's recent remarks regarding donald trump. listen. >> and i'm not going to endorse a candidate today. instead i'd like to offer my perspective on the nominating process of my party. back in 1964, just days before the presidential election which incidentally we lost, ronald reagan went on national television and challenged america, saying it was a time for choosing. he sought to pass for america. the one that embraced conservative principles they did get a dedicated to letting peopleout of poverty and helping create opportunity for all and the other , and oppressive government that would lead america down a darker, less free path. i'm no ronald reagan and this is a different moment in time. but i believe with all my heart and soul that we face another time for choosing.

one that will have profound consequences for the republican party and more importantly for our country. i say this in part because of my conviction that america is poised to lead the world for another century. our technology engines, our innovation dynamic, the ambition and skill of our people are going to propel our economy and raise the standard of living of americans. america will remain as it is today, the envy of the world. you may have seen warren buffett.he said, i and i think he's 100 percent right that the baby being born in america today are the luckiest crop in history. now that doesn't mean we don't have real problems and serious challenges. we do. at home, poverty persists and wages are stagnant. the horrific massacres of paris and san bernardino. the nuclear ambitions of the iranian mullahs.

the aggressions of putin. the growing assertiveness of china and the nuclear tests of new korea confirm that we live in troubled and dangerous times.but if we make the right choices, america's future will be even better than our past and better than ourpresent . on the other hand, if we make improvident choices, the bright horizon i described will not materialize. and let me put it very plainly. if we republicans choose donald trump as our nominee, the prospects for a safe and prosperous future are greatly diminished. let me explain why i say that. first on the economy, if donald trump's plans were ever implemented, the country would sink into prolonged recession. a few examples. his proposed 35 percent terrorist like penalties would instigate a trade war and that would raise prices for consumers, kill our export jobs

and lead entrepreneurs and businesses of all stripes to flee america. his tax plan in combination with his refusal to reform entitlements and honestly address spending would balloon the deficit and the national debt. so even though donald trump has offered very few specific economic plans, what little he has had is enough to know that he would be very bad for american workers and for american families but you say wait . isn't he a huge business success question mark doesn't he know what he's talkingabout question mark no, he isn't . and no, he doesn't. [applause] look, his

bankruptcies have crushedsmall businesses and the men and women who work for them. he inherited his business. he didn't create it. on whatever happened to trump airlines? what about trump university? and there's trump magazine and trump vodka and trump stakes and trump mortgage . a business genius he is not. now not every policy donald trump has floated is bad, of course. he wants to repeal and replace obamacare. he wants to bring jobs home from china and japan but his prescriptions to do those things are flimsy at best. at the last debate, all they could remember about his health care plan was to remove insurance boundaries between states. successfully bringing jobs home requires serious policy and reforms that make america the place businesses want to come, want to plan and want to grow. you can't punish business into doing what you want. frankly, the only serious policy proposals that deal with a broad range of national challenges today come from ted cruz, marco rubio and john kasich. one of these men should be our

nominee. [applause] now i know some people want this race to be over. they look at history and say a trend like mister trumps is not going to be stopped. perhaps. but the rules of political history and pretty much all been shredded during this campaign. if the other candidates can find common ground, i believe we can nominate a person who can win the general election and who will represent the values and policies of conservatism. given the current delegate selection process, that means i vote for mocha rubio in florida and john kasich in ohio and ted cruz or whichever one of the other two contenders as the best chance of beating mister trump in a given state. letty turned national security. and the safety of our homes and loved ones. mister trumps on bast is already alarmingour allies and fueling the enmity of our enemies . insulting all muslims will keep

many of them from fully engaging with us in the urgent fight against isis. and for what purpose? muslim terrorists would only have to lie about their religion to enter the country and then what he said in on 60 minutes, did you hear this question mark it was about syria and isis and it has to go down as the most ridiculous and dangerous idea of the campaign season. let isis take out assad and then we can pick up theremnants . think about that.let the most dangerous terrorist organization the world has no take over an entire country. this recklessness is recklessness in the extreme. now, donald trump tells ushe is very smart . [laughter] i'm afraid when it comes to foreign policy: he is very not smart . [applause] now, i'm far from

the first to conclude donald trump lacks the temperament to be president. after all, this is an individual who mocked a disabled reporter, who attributed reporters questions to a menstrual cycle. who mocked a brilliant rival who happened to be a woman due to her appearance. brag about his marital affairs and laces his public speeches with vulgarity. donald trump says he admires vladimir putin. at the same time,he's called george w. bush a liar. that is a twisted example of evil trumping good . [applause] there's a dark irony in his boasts of his sexual exploits during the vietnam wa . while at the same time, john

mccain who he has mocked was imprisoned and tortured. dishonesty is donald trump's hallmark. he claimed he had spoken clearly and boldly against going into iraq wrong. he spoke in favor of invading iraq. he said he saw thousands of muslims in new jersey celebrating 9/11. wrong. he saw no such thing. he imagined it. he's not of the temperament of the kind of stable, thoughtful person we need as leader. he is and his imagination must not be married to real power. the president of the united states has long been the leader of the free world. the president and yes, even the nominees of the country's great parties help define america to billions of people around the world. all of them bear the responsibility of being an example for our children and our grandchildren. think of donald trump's

personal qualities. the bullying. agreed. the showing off. the misogyny. the absurd third-grade theatrics. you know, we've long referred to him as the donald. he is the only person in the entire country to whom we have added an article before his name and it wasn't because he had attributes we admired. now imagine your children and your grandchildren acting the way he does . would you welcome that? haven't we seen before what happens when people in prominent positions fail the basic responsibility of honorable conduct? we have. and it always injures our families and our country. watch by the way how he responds to my speech today. [applause] will he talk about

our policy differences with mark or will he attack me with every imaginable low road insult. this may tell you what you need to know about his temperament, his stability and his ability to be president. now, mister trump relishes any poll that reflects whathe thinks of himself . but polls are also saying he will lose to hillary clinton. think about that. on hillary clinton's watch, the state department, when she was guiding it and part of the obama administration, that state department meant watched as america'sinterests were diminished at every corner of the world. she compromised our national secrets . she disassembled to the families of the slain .

and she jettisoned her most profound police to gain presidential power. for the last three decades the clintons have lived at the intersection of money and politics. trading their political influence to enrich their personal finances. they embody the term crony capitalism. it disgusts the american people and causes them to lose faith in our political process. a person so untrustworthy and dishonest as hillary clinton must not become president. [applause] of course, a trump nomination enables her victory. and the audio and video of the infamous pepper trump exchange on the ku klux klan will play 100,000 times on table and who

knows how many million times on social media. there are a number of people who claim that mister trump is a con man, a fake . thank you. [laughter] [applause] let me say that again. there's plenty of evidence that mister trump is a con man, a fake. mister trump has changed his positions not just over the years but over the course of the campaign and on the ku klux klan, nearly for three days in arow. we will only really know if he's the real deal or a phony if he releases his tax returns and the tape of his interview with the new york times. i predict there are more bombshells in his tax returns . i predict he doesn't give much of anything to the disabled and

to our veterans. i predict he told the new york times that his immigration talk is just that. talk. and i predict that despite his promise to do so, first made over a year ago, that he will never ever release his tax returns. never. not the returns under on it, not even the returns that are no longer being audited. he has too much to hide. nor will he authorized the release of the tapes that he made with the new york times . if i'm right, you will have all the proof you need to know that donald trump is indeed a phony. attacking me as he surely will will proven any less of a phony. it's entirely in his hands to prove me wrong. all he has to do is release his back taxes like he promised he would and let us hear what he said behind closed doors to the new york times. you know, ronald regan used to quote a scottish philosopher who predicted that democracies

and civilizations wouldn't last much longer than a couple hundred years. and john adams wrote this. remember, democracy never lasts long.it soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. there never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. that's john adams. i believe that america has proven these dire predictions wrong for two reasons. first, we've been blessed with great presidents. with giants among us. men of character, integrity and selflessness have led our nation from the very beginning. none were perfect. each surely made mistakes. but inevery case they acted out of the desire to do what was right for america and for the cause of freedom . the second reason is because we are blessed with a great

people. people who at every critical moment of choosing have putthe interests of the country above their own . these two things are related. our president time and again have called onus to rise to the occasion . john f. kennedy asked us to consider what we could do for our country. lincoln drew upon the better angels of our nature to save the union. i understand the anger americans feel today. in the past, our presidents have channeled that anger and forged it into resolve, into endurance and high purpose and into the will to defeat the enemies of freedom. our anger was transformed into energy directed for good. mister trump is directing our anger for less than noble purposes.he creates scapegoats of muslims and mexican immigrants. he calls for the use of tortur .

he calls for killing the innocent children and family members of terrorists . he cheers assaults on protesters. he applauds the prospect of twisting the constitution to limit first amendment freedom of the press. this is the very brand of anger that has led other nationsinto the abyss . here's what i know. donald trump is a phony, a fraud. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. [applause] he's playing the numbers of the american public for suckers. he gets a free ride to the white house and all we get is a lousy hat. his domestic policies would lead to recession.

his foreign policies would make america and the world less safe. he has neither the temperament and george meant to be president and his personal qualities would meanthat america would cease to be a shining city on a hill .i'm convinced america has greatness ahead and this is the time for choosing. god bless us to choose a nominee who will make that vision a reality. thank you and god bless you all. [applause] jon: the standardbearer of the republican party four years ago, former governor mitt romney launching a blistering attack there on the man who stands ready to be the party's nominee unlesssomething very dramatically changes . donald trump. what do you think aboutthat speech? let's bring in our political panel. lisa bloom is president of high noon strategies, the washington

examiner contributor . david good friend, former staff secretary to bill clinton. also with us, angela mcleod of fox news political analyst. lisa, do you first. will that speech change any minds among republican voters? >> it certainly was a powerful speech but i'm not sure it does anything to change the dynamic of the race this late in the game outside of muddying what is increasingly muddy water for the republican party and dividing what has become a divided republican party. additionally, mitt romney wanted to show leadership today i think he would step forth and call on the party to rally around a donald trump alternative and he failed to do that. he said he was not going to endorse a candidate. additionally, donald trump has been running this rage against the machine type campaign and to donald trump and his supporters, mitt romney represents the machine. he represents that establishment . that he has been railing against. so i'm not sure if this does anything to change the dynamic outside of making it increasingly muddy primary and

a more decisive party. jon: david, he gave some pretty stern words for the democrat party likely nominee, hillary clinton as well. what do you think? >> well he did and it was couched in terms of pulling today showing that hillary clinton would soundly beat donald trump but i think there are similar polls that show against some of the other candidates as well. i must say, i'm a little bit, i don't know how to put it. conflicted over what i heard. i agreed with what a lot of mitt romney was saying. i think he's right in many ways about donald trump but i have to say, donald trump is the creation of the conservative movement. he's a natural end result of a well-funded, well-thought-out premeditated attempt to bring out conservatives, by wealthy

conservative interests like the coke brothers and others who fomented this and now we see the result. it's like, now you realize the horse is out of the barn but it's too late to close the door. i think donald trump is going to revel in what just happened. he's going to relish in it and probably benefit from it for the reasons that my republican colleagues stated and i think to us democrats who watch this, it's a little bit like watching alien versus predator among rich white guys. both these guys inherited wealth. both of them represent a moneyed, privileged class and hear the are clashing publicly. it is remarkable. i can't get over what we just saw. jon: angela, you know something about how the republican party works. address specifically what david just said. is donald trump a creation of the republican architecture? >> donald trump is a creation of the american people. only 30 percent of the votes have gone out. there's no 70 percent that have not been done and i think our party was pretty desperate to get mitt romney and how is he an expert on donald trump? i don't like it when someone

someone else down to make the other side of the party look better. jon: you're saying this speech was a mistake? i'm saying the speech look desperate. the voters will decide who our nominee should be an united we stand, divided we fall. only 30 percent of the votes are out and by the establishment and we do have an establishment in the republican party. when i ran in mississippi, the establishment ran against me. when i ran for congress, that aside, i think this speech has made donald trump more powerful. i think this speech has given donald trump free advertisement and i think more people will go against the establishment for mitt romney making this speech. jon: in 2012, governor romney was praising donald trump after receiving his endorsement. i want to play a bit of this for you. >> donald trump has shown an

extraordinary ability to understand how her our economy works, to create jobs for the american people. he's done it here in nevada and across the country. he and understand our economy is facing threats from abroad. he's one of the few people who stood up and said china has been cheating. they taken jobs from americans. they had played fair. i spent my life in the private sector, not quite as successful as this guy but successful nonetheless i want to say thank you to donald trump for his endorsement. it means a great deal to me. jon: what about that? how does donald trump answer that? how does mitt romney answer that? >> donald trump is going to be pointing to that if he hasn't already. politicians are a walking contradiction. that's one of the many reasons why voters at home hate politicians because they view politicians as liars. they view them from this contradictory standpoint but the reality is we should let republican voters decide.were going to know a lot about march 15 after we get into the winner

take all states because the reality is, if marco rubio can't carry florida, if john kasich can't carry ohio i don't know how they make the argument that their viable candidate in this process so the reality is republicans need to unite behind whoever it's that magical 51 percent, that 1237 and whoever has the most delegates and republicans are going to have to unite behind that candidate and take on hillary clinton. >> i want to say this. where was he months ago when donald trump was becoming popular question why didn't he endorse someone then? to have that commercial come back on mitt romney, these discredited himself. jon: david, i'm sorry i would love to get you on but we're about to get cut off by the computer. fascinating discussion, fascinating speech. back in a moment. thank you all. i can't even count. thanks. technology connecting you to what matters.

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>> pretty astounding maybe controversial speech there from mitt romney about donald trump. we'll see what happens. >> said watch how he responds to my speech. that is what mitt romney said.

he didn't say double dog dare you. but that is apparently what he really meant. we'll see what donald trump says at 1:30 eastern time because we will get his official response. >> hour 1/2 from now. we'll see you during that hour. >>out numbered starts right now. harris: fox news alert. a blistering rebuke of republican front-runner of donald trump from none other than one of the big name in republican party sills the man who was nominee four years ago. this is "outnumbered". i'm harris faulkner. hire andrea tantaros. we have radio show host, meghan mccain. today's #oneluckyguy, co-host of "the five" and host of cashing inch. eric bolling. on "outnumbered." >> this is where i live. i come to visit you guys once in a while. harris: always a big day when you show up.