see you again tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. be sure to watch the fox g.o.p. debate tonight at 9:00 p.m. and like me on facebook there is a lot going on on my facebook page tonight. good night. ♪ ♪ ♪ hi, i'm bill o'reilly, reporting tonight from detroit, michigan. thanks for watching us. we're here in the fox theater. in about an hour the 11th republican debate will get underway. this one is unique because the republican party is now in crisis. and that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. today in utah former presidential candidate mitt romney scorched donald trump say federal government gets the g.o.p. nod the party will collapse and hillary clinton will become president. governor romney was adamant attacking mr. trump in a variety of ways.

>> donald trump says he admires vladimir putin, at the same time he has called george w. bush a liar.$) that is a twisted example of evil trumping good. here's what i know, donald trump is a phony, a fraud. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. [cheers and applause] >> now, in response, a few hours later in maine, mr. trump said this: >> i heardh) that mitt romney made a fairly long speech. [crowd booing] >> and i mean honestly, i will just address it quickly because it's irrelevant. [ laughter ] look, mitt is a failed candidate. he failed. he failed horribly. i am not a fan of barack obama, and that was a race that i backed mitt romney. i backed him. can you see how loyal he is. he was begging for my endorsement. i could have said mitt, drop to your knees. he would have dropped to his knees.

he was begging. >> now, a tiff between romney trump really doesn't matter. but what is significant is that governor romney is now leading the charge against donald trump. that means the governor has an eye on the republican convention. he gave a hint of that by talking about hillary clinton. >> for the last three decades the clintons have lived at the intersection of money and politics, trading their political influence to enrich their personal finances. capitalism. it disgusts the american people and causes them to lose faith in our political process. a person so untrustworthy and dishonest/x as hillary clinton must not become president. [cheers and applause] much liken speech, did it not? but secretary clinton will become president if the republican party continues to divide. and, at this point, talking points does not see detente

any time soon. and that's the memo from detroit. now for the reaction and set up here in the motor city bret baier one of the moderators this evening. romney becomes part of the debate, correct? >> he does. i'm not going to tell you the exact questions but that speech, that, as you point out, rallying the never trump crowd is a message that obviously three of the candidates are signing on to on this stage. and i think you are right. i think that this was an establishment tip of the hat, rally the forces. don't let trump win. he almost laid out a blueprint for kasich to win ohio, for rubio to win florida. for ted cruz to win where he can win so they can do a contested convention. it's still, bill, a narrow path, and there is a lot of anger that donald trump is riding against people like the establishment and mitt romney. >> now, i don't expect mitt romney's speech to convince anyone who supports donald trump to bail. all right? i don't think that's going

to happen. not a lot of compatibility between the trump supporters and people who respect mitt romney there is a whole different world there. there are a whole lotcbuuof republicans at this point according to the votes, north the polls, the votes, who don't want donald trump to be the nominee than do even though he leads by a substantial margin, correct? >> exactly right. look atçm super tuesday states 3 5%. 36%. that was the high mark. so you think that the rest of the party there is a split but they are not voting for donald trump. so that is what mitt romney is trying to mime with this effort to consolidate the anti-trump crowd. >> i thought trump was a little restrained in maine today. >> he was. >> you know, he does what he always does. believe me, i don't see that as a deficit for trump. i think that's a strong point because he comes back and his supporters admire that but he wasn't as brutal on romney. he didn't call him little mitt or talk about his ears.

all right. now, you guys, you and wallace and megyn kelly have been here a couple days and you prepare for the debate. >> we do. >> when there are three moderators you have to divide up the questioning. do you throw pies? you want to ask certain people. >> we divide up into different buckets which are called topics. policy issues. then we go through this process refining questions. really accomplishing them down, getting them as tight as we possibly can it's a we go after each other. and chris and megyn and i, i think we have a good ñ formula. >> what do you have pinheaded fox news executives with you and are they there with you too? >> no, not the pinhead ones. >> this is why baier gets a show when he is 22 years old. you have other people there advising you. >> a few. in the room. >> so you kick it around and

you say okay, look, we're first half hour, here in the second half hour that kind of thing. >> it's a blueprint. corography. last time when trump did not show up and we had word that he might show up that, you can imagine, was a little tough. >> i almost got him there, baier. >> you almost did. >> it was very close. so you guys know exactly what you are going to ask and what time you're going to ask it it, right? pretty much? >> for the most part, but we're also, bill, going to let this breathe. and there will be -- >> -- like cnn? are you going to let it breathe like that? >> we're going to let it breathe and contrast but then we will keep it on the rails. >> may have to jrvettle if there is a brawl. >> you will be up here. >> i will be right back. >> i will be roaming with a mike right there and believe me, it's dangerous. but what i'm trying to say is you saw what happened. >> yeah. >> at cnn when wolf blitzer basically went out for a burger and these guys just tore each other's throats out. you expect that to happen

tonight? >> listen, it may. we're prepared for it it we have the fourth moderator, the bell, which was ignored in the last debate. >> loud bell. >> it's pretty loud. it's not a horn but it's a nice bell. >> you might get a fog horn. that might do it? >> we will be trying to keep it it on the rails. listen, there is a lot of policy to talk about. a lot of details. >> it's all going to be romney. those three guys will take what romney said and ram it downg >> probably not kasich but we will see. >> you don't think kasich will do it at this point. >> i don't know if he will go as aggressive. he hasn't yet. we will see if he turns it up. >> we are supposed to have all four of the candidates on the factor after the debate. we'll see. but, again, i will be there and i will be roaming, not tied to a chair. how many more debates can be constructive? 11 debates and, trump, i don't know if he is going to p &c @&c@ him. >> put it in context. last time we had 22. this is half of the debates

we had last cycle. the republican party said we have got to dial that back. i think if you get to fewer candidates it becomes much more -- >> -- don't you run out of questions? >> no, you don't run out of questions. there are a lot of things on people's minds. >> ask about myanmar now i know who i'm going to ask but it's not going to be policy. it's not going to be about any of that it's going to be you. not you baier but personally. you have bernie sanders coming into town next week. >> monday. >> but hillary is not showing right? >> she is not. >> wow. >> the campaign said they had a scheduling conflict. >> do you know what it is? she called me you or baier. >> is she on your show? >> not yet. but don't -- she doesn't like you. that's why she ♪ showing. just going to be bernie and a town hall. >> yeah. >> are you going to do it in havana? >> no. detroit. going to be interesting. >> detroit is not a

socialistic town. you go out and tell the guys on the street we want socialism, you are north coming back. this so tough town. all right, bernie sanders. i will watch that. >> thank you. >> you tell bernie i said hello and he used to be my best friend. >> i know. >> it was jesse watters. >> yeah. jesse watters ambushed him. but i was responsible for that all right, bret, thank very busy. we are looking forward to the debate. next on the run down, as we continue on the factor newt gingrich will analyze what has happened today. later goldberg and what happened at the conservative meeting in d.c. the factor is coming right hey!

this is lloyd. to prove to you that the better choice for him is aleve. he's agreed to give it up. ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. yeah, i was ok, but after lunch my knee started hurting again so... more pills. yep... another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? for my pain... i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief with an easy open cap. hi i'm kristie. and i'm jess. and we are the bug chicks. we're a nano-business. windows 10 really helps us get the word out about how awesome bugs are. kids learn to be brave and curious and all kids speak the language of bug. "hey cortana, find my katydid video."

oh! this is so good. if you're trying to teach a kid about a proboscis. just sketch it on the screen. i don't have a touch screen on my mac, i'm jealous of that. you put a big bug in a kids hands and change their world view. [ laugh ] for crash survival, subaru has developed ours most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. not toyota. not ford or any other brand. subaru eyesight. an extra set of eyes, every time you drive. ♪uh. introducing centrum vitamints. a new multivitamin you enjoy like a mint... with a full spectrum of nutrients... new centrum vitamints.

>> whatever happened to trump airlines? how about trump university? and then there's trump magazine and trump

trump steaks. and trump mortgage. a business genius he is not. >> continuing now with our lead story, the republican party in chaos. joining us from washington, newt gingrich. so how do you assess mitt romney's speech today? why did he give it today? what is he trying to accomplish? >> well, let me say first of all i was a little surprised just because i was with mitt in las vegas when donald trump endorsed him and i remember how efusively he thanked him as a great job creator. it was a little over the top today. mitt represents the panic of the establishment of the republican party. they held their breath through super tuesday. it didn't work. and now they're faced with a very real prospect of donald trump becoming the leader of the party and it absolutely >> why? >> they cannot imagine sharing -- well, because, he is an outsider. he is not them. he is not part of the club. he is uncontrollable.

he hasn't been through the initiation rights. he didn't belong to the secret society. and i think that they don't see him -- they have no idea they don't want to pay attention to him. you are right, by the way, he has only gotten 35 to 40% of the vote. he is not yet guaranteed to being the nominee but week by week is he gaining ground and nationally he is gaining strength. and i think that what you are going to see now for two weeks is an all-out frenzy. they have to beat him in ohio and they have to beat him in florida or this is over because those are winner-take-all states. and if he has ohio and florida's delegates, he will become unstoppable. >> okay. the justification for mitt romney for the republican security people who came out today and said they don't want trump to be president, the justification is that he doesn't have specific plans

to improve the nation and that he's not conducting himself the way that a traditional president might. in your opinion, is that unfair to donald trump? unfair. let me draw into two parts. first of all, in terms of style, donald trump is this very strange cross between andrew jackson, theodore roosevelt, and p.t. barnum. is he a man totally unique. he lives life at 100 percent pace. i have never seen anything like it. even for a guy as wealthy as he is, it is amazing that he does as well as he does with the national media and with the voters and is he a upon upon -- phenomenon. i understand if you are used to the normal presidency, trump really rattles you and makes you upset is. on policy they have a much more fundamental difference. it's not that they don't have policies. it's that they deeply disagree with him. he would build a wall.

nobody should be confused about this. if he becomes president, there is going to be a wall. >> i don't think there are too many republicans, mr. speaker, i don't think there are too many republicans that object to a wall being built. i don't. >> no. but the national. >> i have been advocating that for years. >> but the national security establishment does. >> -- oh, i don't know about that. maybe you are right but i against terrorism because they think that trump is going to exacerbate muslim hatred toward the u.s.a. and then the trade wars that trump is espousing they say, look, if you get into trade wars with china and other us into a recession. so it looks to me that it's an issue oriented situation. >> well, it is. >>+jñ okay. go. >> but, look, the objective reality is that donald trump is an american nationalist in an old fashioned sense.

we have been governed by elites and i have been part of -- look, i helped pass nafta. i have been through all this stuff. the question is whether or not you think we need to take a deep breath and rethink some of what we are doing. we have had a very clear policy since world war ii. we have built a worldwide system that has worked reasonably well. the trump argument is that that system now no longer serves american interests. it serves chinese or russian or other interests. this is a real honest fight and the traditional national security group in the republican party is appalled by the degree to which trump would disrupt the system that's been built since world war are 2. >> all right. so both sides that you're saying are sincere in their contrariness toward the other. is that what you are saying? they are both sincere. >> they are sincere, and it's real. >> you bet it's real. if trump gets the nomination, will you campaign for him?

>> i going to support the republican nominee. >>, no, no, no. campaign for. are you going to be up there with chris christie and donald trump? >> you know, i mean, first of all, as anjq analyst on fox i don't know how much campaigning i will do. >> well, we will fire you. >> thank you very much, bill. i appreciate that opportunity. [ laughter ] >> no, but look. >> you could -- if you could, would you use your gravitas to help. >> sure. i'm going to speak out and write columns. i do other things. but i will do that for cruz. i will do that for rubio. i will do that for kasich. look, any of those four are radically superior to hillary clinton as the next president of the united states. that's what troubles me -- i don't mind people saying i don't want trump. i mind people say i will never vote for him. i think faced with hillary as alternative, that's a very dangerous position. >> all right, mr. speaker, we appreciate the candor, thank you. >> glad to be with you. >> directly ahead, the justice department giving immunity to a key player in the hillary clinton email

investigation. what do the democrats think about that? then, what would bernie goldberg ask if he were moderating the debate this evening? we're coming right back from detroit. when you've got a house full of guests on the way and a cold with sinus pressure, you need fast relief. alka-seltzer plus severe sinus congestion and cough liquid gels rush relief to your tough symptoms. to put you back in control. [doorbell] woman: coming! alka-seltzer plus sinus. when you think what does it look like? is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student? is it one day giving your daughter

the opportunity she deserves? is it finally witnessing all the artistic wonders of the natural world? whatever your definition of success is, helping you pursue it, is ours. t-i-a-a. hi i'm kristie. and i'm jess. and we are the bug chicks. we're a nano-business. windows 10 really helps us get the word out about how awesome bugs are. kids learn to be brave and curious and all kids speak the language of bug. "hey cortana, find my katydid video." oh! this is so good. if you're trying to teach a kid about a proboscis. just sketch it on the screen. i don't have a touch screen on my mac, i'm jealous of that. you put a big bug in a kids hands and change their world view. [ laugh ]

if you remember, mitt was all set to rupp. i think he maybe still has a desire maybe at the convention to try to get some kind of a thing. hillary clinton will destroy him in the election. assuming she isñ11=]uz run, assuming she is not arrested for the email situation. [cheers and applause] >> factor follow-up segment tonight, the justice department has granted immunity to brian pagliano, one of the guys who set up hillary clinton's private email server at her home in new york state.

now, that announcement caused judge andrew napolitano a judicial analyst says he believes mrs. clinton will be eventually indicted. joining us from chicago austan goolsbee. the immunity deal, professor, did that catch your attention? >> it got my attention but, economist. i'm not a legal expert. i would note this same guy that they gave immunity to has been pleading the fifth and that's why they didn't have any testimony. but the clinton people have been asking him to testify. so, i don't know what to make of it. do you believe though that there is grave and i mean grave concern inside the hillary clinton campaign because of the fbi's fairly aggressive posture? >> maybe. like i say, i can't tell if this is an aggressive posture because they're getting the guy to testify that the clintons wanted to

testify, to establish that there was nothing untoward aboujw it. i'm sure they are nervous. how could one not be nervous about any investigation until you're cleared? i mean, i'm sure they are nervous. >> do you believe that democrats across the country who are largely supporting hillary clinton now feel the same way? there is some unease about this whole thing or are they just use to one thing after another with secretary clinton? >> well, i don't think i would describe it as used to that from hillary clinton. i would say there is always some unease when things like this are going on. but they are used to the republicans trying to make a lot out of anything that comes up. so, one it was the glasses, then it was the benghazi and then it was the email. >> the justice department. >> we will see what they

come out with. >> iyñ3ñy understand. i'm wondering if there is a plan b behind the scenes. you wouldn't know that you are in chicago. you used to be with the obama administration. i am just wondering what the level of concern is. and i guess it's impossible to figure it out. now, mitt romney coming after trump, and we believe that that will be in the first hour of the debate tonight. no economist7] centerpiece. we know no fox moderators are going to ask about it. do you think this is a big deal? >> i don't really think it's a big deal. has been happening,óm but i don't think there is that big of a contingent among republicans who are waiting and asking themselves i wonder what mitt romney thinks of donald trump. you know, to a broader level before, right now donald trump has got 35, 40% of the republican primary

electorate, and that's about 15 million people. but you have got to get 65 million people to vote for you to become the president. so, really, the question ought to be not what do trump supporters think, but what do the 50 million people who are are not yet decided whether they're going to vote for trump, what do they think? and it might have more of an impact on them. >> okay. i agree. i don't think the trump supporters care at all. greta had a snap poll, you know, not scientific. and it came out the way i thought it was. anybody that like donald trump probably doesn't like mitt romney and agrees with mr. trump that romney is a loser and whatever he says is doesn't matter. but i think trump knows he has to expand the tent. that being said though, there is a momentum starting to form as newt gingrich just said, among -- they call them establishment republicans. i don't know if that's the correct word, among many republicans stall warts to

stop trump at anyiá cost. that's going to help hillary clinton, is it not. >> i certainly hope so. because that is what it seems like is happening. >> when you say you certainly hope so, i know you are a hillary clinton. >> i'm supporting hillary clinton. >> i know you are. you know, late at night when nobody can hear you and you are locked away with your teddy bear, doesn't it ever say, you know, this woman say, you know, this woman may about? doesn't that ever cross yourp1l mind? or is it just give me another cup of kool-aid? >> look, you know that i was an obama guy from the beginning, but i think hillary clinton will make a very effective president. >> no doubt. >> the more that i look at civil war coming out of the republicans, the more convinced i am that it's going to work out just fine for the democrats. >> all right. now, do you agree with me three weeks ago, when i said that bernie sanders/clinton

race was a sham, a media propup because bernie sanders had no chance to get the nomination? i don't remember whether i asked you that three weeks ago. >> yeah, we did. we talked about that, and i said i hoped you were right, and i was pretty confident that ultimately the democratic party. >> unbelievably right. i was incredibly right. >> you were unbelievably right. >> all right, professor, you can come back next week because you said that and we appreciate you coming on. >> all right. >> plenty more ahead as the factor moves aalong from michigan. bernie goldberg, not sanders, and dana perino has some thoughts on the debate, just a few minutes away. then watters at the conservative meeting in washington. >> is donald trump a true conservative? what do you think? >> as much as bill o'reilly is a truly humble man. [ laughter ] >> leave it ati&that. >> we hope you stay tuned to

those reports. i will take care of beck as the factor continues from detroit. i think it landed last tuesday. one second it's there. then, woosh, it's gone. i swear i saw it swallow seven people. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪

the all-new audi q7 is here. ♪ unless you have allergies., then your eyes may see it differently. only flonase is approved to relieve both itchy, watery eyes and congestion. no other nasal allergy spray can say that. when we breathe in allergens our bodies react by over producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase. 6>1 changes everything.

he is playing the members of the american public for suckers. he gets a free ride to the white house. and all we get is a lousy hat. [ laughter ] his domestic policies would lead to recession. his foreign policies would make america the and the

world less safe. he has neither the temperament or the judgment to be president. >> personal story segment tonight. will romney be a big factor in tonight's debate. as mentioned, this is debate 11 for the republicans. so what's left to ask? joining us now from miami u the purveyor of bernard goldberg.com, mr. goldberg. so your.k opening question tonight to donald trump would be, what? >> let me preface it. this is not designed to please trump supporterst or displease them. he is is the frontrunner so you have to hold him accountable. here is my question, bill. i say, mr. trump, you have said that president bush intentionally lied about getting us into a war in iraq. the very next day you said you never said that. but you did. you said you opposed the war in iraq from the outset, but you told howard stern something different. you said you saw thousands

of muslims cheering in new jersey when the world trade center towers came down. even chris christie, who has endorsed you said it never happened. so my question, mr. trump is do you understand why people worry about your relationship witháfthe truth? >> good question. romney hit all those points by the way today in his speech in utah. that's a really good question and i hope they are watching, the three moderators. i think they are. maybe they will get into it. some might say though, bernie, it's a gotcha question. you are running down the litany and you really shouldn't be going for a gotcha in any way, shape, or form. >> it isn't a a gotcha in any way, shape, or form. the problem isn't with my question. the problem is that too many people watching us right now they say they want fair and balanced journalism, they journalism, but they don't.

they want you and me and krauthammer and everybody else to support whoever they support. so if you say something tough about rubio, you will hear it from rubio's people. and you have. if you say something about trump, you will hear it from trump's people. i don't have a problem%q! this. they have a problem with this. and that finally needs to be said. >> okay. do you -- many of the people who support donald trump or ted cruz or rubio or kasichj!'4@ believe that their overall approach is what's important, and it isn't important that you say you saw a bunch of muslims jumping up and down after 9/11. that you might have nuanced the iraq war a little bit more than you said you did. okay? that's not important to them. what's important is what you're going to do going forward. and i think that's what the trump supporters are believing. would i be wrong? >> no. the key word is that's what

they're believing. but i believe that trump experiment is going to end badly. let's say donald trump does not, for whatever reason,=m no matter how legitimate it may be, does not get the nomination, in that case the republicans will lose in 2000 it 16 because, as you supporters will think he got robbed, you know, the nomination was taken by the establishment or whatever, and a lot of them will sit home. but let's say he does get the nomination, okay? he will, as you have said many times, he will get many many democrats. but, he will lose as we'reç seeing every day many republicans. and no candidate can win. no candidate can win without not only support but massive support from his own party. that's why i say i think this experiment is going to

end badly and i say that even if donald trump wins the nomination and wins the white house. it will still end badly. >> okay. i'm not of that opinion. but i have another question for you. why do you think that donald trump has dominated the primary voting, voting so far? the others are more experienceed? >> >> because i think more than anything else, donald trump is a symbol. the symbol is a great big middle finger to the establishment, to the elites, to politics as usual. people who support donald trump, not all people but many they don't care about his tax policy. they don't care about his tariffs, which would wreck our economy. they don't care. they care about that he comes across as a strong man. that's what they care about.

except if he ever gets elected, he is goingr to actually do something. and if he starts in to use the tariff example, we're going to have a war between china and the -- a trade war that is between china and the united states, between mexico and the united states. i'm with mitt romney on this. he is not good for the future of this country, even in terms of business, but he is a symbol and the symbol is the middle finger and that's what all ordinary americans, all the ordinary americans, i use that term in the best sense, are giving the middle finger to the elites in this country. >> and some of the elites deserve it. that's for sure. bernie goldberg, everybody. when we come right back from detroit, dana perino and jesse watters. moments away.

we were born 100 years ago into a new american century. born with a hunger to fly and a passion to build something better. and what an amazing time it's been, decade after decade of innovation, inspiration and wonder. so, we say thank you america for a century of trust, for the privilege of flying higher and higher, together. ♪

...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. breo won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours. breo contains a type of medicine

that increases the risk of death from asthma problems and may increase the risk of hospitalization in children and adolescents. breo is not for people whose asthma is well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. once your asthma is well controlled, your doctor will decide if you can stop breo and prescribe a different asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. do not take breo more than prescribed. see your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. ask your doctor if 24-hour breo could be a missing piece for you. see if you're eligible for 12 months free at mybreo.com. >> he ran a horrible campaign. it was a campaign that should have never been lost. you're running against a failed president. he came up with the 47%. demeaned 47% of the people in our country, right?eá%sshp &@

>> trump talking about romney. thanks for staying with us$u i'm bill o'reilly. we're closing in on the fox news debate this evening, which will begin shortly after 9:00 p.m. eastern time. once again, mr. trump will drive the narrative after mitt romney's speech today. joining us now from new york city dana perino. you know, i'm glad you're on because you are the face of the republican establishment. >> wow. >> you, the press secretary for george w. bush. >> be insulted. >> no, it's a nice face. look at that face, everyone. but what i'm trying to say is that you are not a rogue kind of sarah palin, rogue -- what did you think when you saw mr. establishment mitt romney go after trump? >> well, i said -- i had an

out-of-party experience today. this is unlike i have ever known in my lifetime. i grew up in a republican household. my grandfather was a county commissioner in western county wyoming. so if that makes me establishment, then i'm a lifelong conservative. i concede that i know mitt romney was giving voice to a lot of frustration. when you say establishment, bill, i think a lot of people here too moderate, squishy, not conservative enough. that's actually, i think, the wrong way to look at what mitt romney was saying today. mitt romney was saying i'm concerned about what i sees a the[iç÷ legacy and history of the republican party and the future of it. however, i don't think that mitt romney made thepi sale today. i think it would be maybe effective with some people, but if you are dug in between trump and one of the other candidates, i don't know if your mind was changed by romney this afternoon. >> isn't it impossible at

this juncture to change the mind of any trump supporter because they are so -- i mean, you have got to give donald trump credit for being such a powerful presence that he has millions of people they don't care what you say about them. they don't care what he says. they are going to vote for him. >> the exit polls and in all the contests so far. people who say they want someone to tells it like it is he wins by a mile. the thing is what newt gingrich said on your program earlier is exactly right and you said it in your talking points memo. if the republican party cannot find a way to union be phi, there is no way that they can beat hillary clinton. it is already going to be so difficult for a republican to beat her in the electoral college the way that the democrats look at it, out of the 270 votes needed, she has got about 246. so, if she wins florida. >> in my tally she has 282. i"the o'reilly electoral college tally, 282. i say that with a huge

caveat. donald trump is such a commanding presence that if things go right for him he can persuade and he can change the dynamic that's in place right now. he can dob it. shear force of personality. i mean, this is a guy that wherever he goes is going to get people to like him or not. and so you don't, you can't really. >> but without all the republicans -- i don't think that he can do that without convincing all of the republicans that mitt romney was speaking to today. do you? >> no. but he is not going to be able to do that. there is going to be a lot of republicans that don't vote for him. he is going to get independents and he is going to get people who are nothing. they are just going to show up. >> one of my biggest concerns for the republican party is wishful thinking. it's possible that that is true but i would not guarantee it it democrats have been slow to turn out this season so far. but they are going to consolidate behind her, and the campaign against him has

not even begun from the democratic side. >> and i want to tell everybody that the factor is almost over and people just love it tonight that's why you are hearing all the applause anxs screaming. >> i'm really good as the face of the establishment. >> i'm going to ask you the question i asked gingrich. would you campaign for donald trump, you, dana perino. >> first of all i don't think i will be asked to campaign for donald trump. i love my new job. i have not campaigned for anybody since i came to work at fox news. not a soul. i have not done campaign events. >> i know that. >> i have been doing my job, which i love. >> in your heart, hypothetically, and i don't usually ask hypotheticals but i'm very interested, would you campaign for the man? >> you know, the most important thing as a press secretary you learn, you never answer a hypothetical. >> oh. >> true. >> okay. >> you don't. >> i'm cutting you slack. and the audience approves of me cutting you slack. >> they love me.

>> thank you. watters on deck. he went down to the big conservative meeting near d.c. it's a riot. that's next. your path to retirement may not always be clear. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your retirement savings. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence.

can't afford to let heartburn get in the way? try nexium 24hr, now the #1 selling brand for frequent heartburn. get complete protection with the new leader in frequent heartburn. that's nexium level protection.

♪ ♪ rnc chair reince priebus speaking on stage. in the back of the book segment tonight watters world cpac the conservative political action conference underway near washington. so we sent watters down there to ask the folks if donald trump is really conservative.

♪ ♪k >> so here you are at cpac. >> cpac for my first time. >> what is the definition of a true conservative? >> somebody has reagan values, believes in small government. >> it means limited government. it means lower taxes. it means an adherence to the rule of law. >> the government's job is to protect those rights, not to give us free stuff. not to give bank bailouts. not to do any of the stuff that donald trump loves. >> is donald trump a true conservative? >> i believe he is a true conservative. he is strong on national security. >> oh, absolutely not. >> whyt not? >> the man has been paying money to everybody left and right for his whole history. >> he is more like hillary clinton than a conservative.

sorry. >> abc right now, anybody but clinton. if he winds up taking the nod, then we need to rally behind him. >> in my opinion, if he has evolved he will be a true conservative. if not his ardent supporters are going to be disappointed. >> do you think donald trump is a true conserving. >> absolutely not. he has demonstrated that is he a tyrant. >> hello. >> he is a tyrant at the at the debates. he has won every debate, right? >> not necessarily. >> not necessarily. [ laughter ] >> do you think trump's ego can be strokd? >> the man is all about ego. an ego maniac. >> i support donald trump. i think he is going to change the world. and i think people of america are fed up with our federal government. >> he is getting a lot of evangelical support. he has changed the dynamic. >> what do you think about bill o'reilly? conservative guy? >> you know, he is okay. that independent line doesn't always work for me. >> bill o'reilly true a smart conservative. >> i wouldn't go that far. >> bill o'reilly is also an

ego maniac. >> do you think he is a true conservative? >> the jury is out on that one. [ laughter ] >> do you ever watch bill o'reilly? >> of course. >> do you think bill is a true conservative? >> i do. >> do you think bill o'reilly is a true conservative? >> bill o'reilly? think he is a true independent. >> i like bill because bill is always bill and you can count on bill. [contradicts [crickets chirping] >> it seems like is you have been missing bill i see it in your eyes. >> i do miss him. i miss the times when we would cuddle. >> how does it feel to be in watters world? >> i love being in watters world. >> i feel honored to be part of watters world. >> i actually get a chance to be on bill o'reilly's show? this is my chance to make news? >> do it. do it. >> what's your favorite part of the show? >> obviously watters world. >> what's your favorite part of the show? >> you.

>> are you going to say this is your world. >> yes. do you want to do that. >> yes. >> i'm watters, and this is my world right here. >> woo! >> all right. watters is joining us from washington. did they, cpac, endorse anybody? is there a favorite son at this conference? >> at the end they will have a straw poll and everybody will vote. and who knows what is going to happen. you have got to bus your supporters in. >> i do.y >> who do you think is going to win? who? >> cruz. >> you think cruz? >> cruz definitely has a shot. listen, it's a money conference. there is not a lot of people who work with their hands like i do. so, you are going to get a lot of media types and people like that. not people out on the streets. >> you work with your hands, right. >> i hold my microphone. >> if you could just tie a tie knot. that's all we ask and rob mondayzd5jñ monoco is the

brilliant editor of all these pieces. go home to new york. we appreciate it it? >> thank you. >> i have some debate set up for you and closing thoughts on the trump-romney brouhaha in a moment. pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies. then your eyes may see it differently. only flonase is approved to relieve both your itchy, watery eyes and congestion.

no other nasal allergy spray can say that. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase changes everything. ♪ don't just eat. mangia! bertolli. we ship everything you atcan imagine.n, and everything we ship has something in common. whether it's expedited overnight... ...or shipped around the globe, ...it's handled by od employees who know that delivering freight... ...means delivering promises. od. helping the world keep promises.

>> so about two minutes before the debate. bret baier giving instructions to the crowd. no inappropriate behavior. evening for the country as the republican debate is set to get underway. after mitt romney hammered donald trump earlier today, it is my job to cover this race fairly, so i'm not making any judgments about what romney said or how mr. trump replied. but men are entitled to their opinions. you guys can decide who has

the stronger argument. i can tell you this: we'll be back live from detroit immediately after the debate, and i will tell you who i think won the debate. and we will talk with most of the candidates. and that should be interesting, because i'm going to be down there roaming around with a microphone, a live microphone,)u so, as soon as they are finished, you know, the wives and kids come out and they all hug, well then i come out with this mike and a cameraman next to me to show you what's going on. so we're going to have i think, all a the candidates. they all told me they are going to come on. and i got some really interesting questions to ask all of them. so, we are one minute from debate time. i want to thank you again for watching this early edition of the factor. as you know, i am bill o'reilly, and we will see you tonight at 11:00 eastern time, 8 pacific time. and this show, this factor

coming up live, even i have no idea what's going o4 happen. that's how interesting it's going to be be. see you then. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> good evening. and welcome to the fabulous fox theater in downtown detroit. the site of the 11th republican presidential debate of the 20 16 campaign. i'm megyn kelly, along with my co-moderators bret baier and chris wallace. >> 59 republican delegates are at stake here in the state of michigan during next tuesday's republican primary. the biggest prize out of four states holding contests that day. for tonight's debate we are partnering with facebook. the conversation about this election has been intense, as the crowd is here. [chanting] >>