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important for the united states or canada or for any leading power in the world is to live up to its commitments and to provide continuing momentum on efforts even if they didn't start under your administration so there are a whole host of initiatives that began under the bush administration, some that i was enthusiastic about like that far that has saved millions of lives and prevented hiv-aids or provided vital drugs to those already infected with hiv-aids in sub-saharan africa and parts of the world. it's something president bush deserves enormous credit for. we continued that but there are also areas where when i was outside the government i
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questioned how they were approaching it.i might have to get to the extent that involves foreign policy. i might say to my foreign-policy partners look. we have a part problem of doing it this way but here's a suggestion for how we can do the same thing or meet your interests in a slightly different way. what you are always concerned about making sure that the credibility of the united states is sustained or the credibility of canada is sustained. that's why when there's turnover in governments the work that's been done continues and particularly when you have a close friendship and relationship with a partner like canada . it's not as if work we are or on entry and exit visas, vanishes when the next president vanishes when the next president
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i intend to make sure the next president that comes in agrees with me on everything. just in case that doesn't happen, the u.s.-canadian relationship will be fine. thank you, everybody. >> thank you. harris: with that the bilateral news conference wrapping up between president obama and prime minister of canada, justin trudeau, here on his inaugural visit as prime minister to the united states. a lot of plans for rest of the day. we'll cover that on fox news channel. we recap a fiery moment many people may have not seen coming in just a moment. meanwhile, this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith, andrea tantaros, co-host of "after the bell" on fox businesses, melissa francis. for very first time #oneluckyguy welcome to the couch, political analyst, co-host of "the five." juan williams. you my friend and beautiful
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green tie, you are outr outnumbered. >> it is almost springtime. they say i'm outnumbered. i'm sawed. sitting here, wow, holy smokes. andrea: off to a good start already. harris: get to the bilateral news conference. it was pretty much boilerplate. they cover ad lot of issues. we anticipated they would talk about foreign policy and trade. the president asked about situation possibly naming nominee and confirming replacement for justice scalia on the supreme court. moments ago before we came to outnumbered, things got unanticipating dicey. i put it that way, president slammed republicans, calling what is happening in the party, a crack up. basically don't blame him for that. i want to get your thoughts on that, juan. >> the history of this moment. we'll look back on this as a
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moment, i don't know if crack-up is colorful. there is certainly fracture within the republican ranks at this moment principally over donald trump. if you're in florida, they have ads being sponsored by club for growth and other major conservative groups against the man who is the front-runner. harris: not the first time. not the first state. >> that's what i'm saying. you don't, there is no question that there is a fracture. i think of it in terms of almost a divorce, harris, a divorce between grassroots republican populists and republican establishment. harris: you don't think president obama, someone who has gone off, not more than other presidents but certainly on big issues, used executive action in order you don't think he played a role in the divisiveness? >> i think he said that in fact he had referenced this, he has regret over it. harris: not today, but he has previously. >> no, i think he today said he had regrets over this he reflected what he could have done differently and what he can do differently. i think he tefinitely had some
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culpability. i live in washington. i know he has not done a good job going up to the hill, bringing people in. most often cited example is president johnson. president johnson would make deals with other people. ronald reagan, who i covered, ronald reagan would have tip o'neill in, two irish guys. those guys would sit and drink. i wrote a book about thurgood marshall. the classic liberal on the court, guess what? he and ronald reagan used to tell jokes and swap all kinds of crazy stories. harris: not that kind if you will, bilateral talk with this president. andrea, we will cue up the sound bite from the president in just a moment, but until that's ready, he said there are thoughtful conservatives in the party who need to consider what they want with regard to this fracture, this crack upin the republican party. andrea: i'm not sure the republican party should take advice from president barack obama. juan is right, he has been divisive president, contrary to
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the american people what he would do, unite the united states, he exacerbated and made it worse. i agree with the president on one thing, this isn't his repub. he should be sending a fruit basket thanking them, their division and they're putting up essentially, not one, two presidential nominees in mitt romney last time around unwilling to go negative on president obama, after millions of people supported him. that paved the way for this last four years of president obama. the establishment has handed unelectable candidates one time, two times, so president obama is not responsible for this. him weighing in though on this crackup i think is very telling. sandra: get more specific what he said beyond the republican crackup -- harris: take a pause. i think it is ready. >> what i'm not going to do is validate some notion that the
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republican crack up, that has been taking place is, is a consequence of actions that i have taken and, and i, what's interesting, i will just say one last thing about this. there are thoughtful conservatives who are troubled by this, who are troubled by the direction of their party. i think it is very important for them to reflect on, what it is about the politics they have engaged in that allows the circus we've been seeing to transpire. and to do some introspect shun because ultimately, i want a, effective republican party. i think this country has to have
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responsible parties that can govern. sandra: something else beyond that stuck with me, juan, i've been blamed by republicans for a lot of things, being blamed for their primaries who they are select something novel. what is the purpose of him bringing this up in this news conference? >> sand today, i think was responding to paralysis supreme court vacancy. republicans are saying they won't even meet and consider a nominee. president is obviously, he is in the course of now vetting people that he will nominate and try to create a political dynamic that will force the republicans hand. >> part of the question was book lash on both sides, asking do you feel responsible for the fact. he just addressed the republican side. he dismissed notion from the reporter we're seeing both parties embracing outsider candidate and isn't that indictment of you along with the rest of congress and everyone else sitting in washington?
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if anything it is voters out there saying right now we just want other. that's it. nobody in washington right now. harris: to count and not be drowned out by things like superdelegates on the left and brokered conventions on the right. so, andrea, this was also an opportunity for the president to do something he has done once before and that is talk about donald trump, again elevating him. he is the party's front-runner. so there is that. but, specific words crack up and circus. the president pausing to take, he chooses his words very carefully, most of us who do are in public life. him very different. he is now leading the nation. it is bilateral. you have another country there. it felt more political at that moment, with those words chosen. was he trying to help out his side. andrea: nothing to see here on the left, we'll ignore the fact our front-runner, anointed candidate, former secretary of state is under investigation by the fbi, something never
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happened in presidential politics. of course he will highlight crack up on the right. of course he will say it's a circus but very telling he would weigh in, harris, because he has done this before with respect to donald trump. did it with a sit-down with "60 minutes" in december and called out donald trump. they are looking at these numbers, i believe, crossover appeal with trump, picking off voters, i think numbers in michigan made them terribly nervous, that crossover support of blew collar workers. he attacked donald trump personally in december, rallying the anger of blue-collar men. that to me tells me the democratic party is nervous. they should be. harris: who else does that sound like we know from exit polling? supporters of bernie sanders. the president's party is trying to quiet them down, juan. >> absolutely. what is funny, fox was thinking about having debate between bernie sanders, right and donald trump before the, before the -- harris: i wonder if they are thinking -- >> i think that was genius. i don't know who thought that up. that was freight.
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that would have been the moment. normally in the primary season, you don't get republican and democrat. this would be populist, populist, youist anger is bernie sanders. harris:p across the aisle. >> you ain't lying. harris: super-duper tuesday as they call it. i call it super tuesday part deaux. in the big battle for a whole lot of delegates. 165 between ohio and florida. winner-take-all. who has best path forward as time is running short for some? savages of islamic state committing unspeakable atrocity ies against christians in africa and syria. but i will hear that on "outnumbered." a growing pressure and deadline why the u.s. state department has not done the same. when we wrap up the tv version of us, click on
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harris: it is friday eve. now to the pivotal primary showdown five days from now. time is tight for donald trump's republican rivals to catch up to him. that is because winner-take-all states florida and ohio, home to marco rubio and john kasich respectively, will play a key role. two states where front-runner donald trump believes he can deliver a knockout blow. >> so we've been winning a lot. now this week we have florida, which is, an amazing place. you know, i mean, it is going to be amazing. and we as you know, we have ohio where you have absentee governor. we'll do great, great, great, in ohio. and we have who else do we have? we have north carolina, right? [cheering] and we have illinois. now we're going to have a big, i think we're going to have a fantastic week. harris: amazing. and this may help explain trump's confidence. new "fox news" polling showing he is crushing rubio in florida by more than 20 points n ohio,
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it has tightened but trump is trailing kasich by five. however within the margin of error. senator ted cruz told fox news's megyn kelly at a town hall he is the only candidate who has proven he can beat trump. now is the time for rubio and kasich supporters to rally on his side. >> we saw last week, we saw on super tuesday, and then super saturday, two tremendous outcomes. [cheering] where the voters have now made clear that there is only one campaign that has repeatedly beaten donald trump. [cheers and applause] and that can and will beat donald trump. so what we're seeing is republicans uniting behind our campaign. harris: so, reince priebus, the leader of the republican national committee is saying today that he wants a g-rated debate tonight. donald trump has said that, you know he can deliver on that. he softened his tone.
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there is this promise. john kasich doesn't have to worry about that because he hasn't gotten down into the nitty-gritty and mud. what do you think we'll see? >> gets confusing when you hear from the democrats and hillary clinton and bernie sanders, they're targeting their attacks at donald trump. if it is indeed ted cruz that they fear the most, they're spending an awful lot of time targeting donald trump. so who is it that they do fear the most? >> i think donald trump. i think donald trump, i think andrea mentioned this before, has the capacity to reach across and recreate some of those reagan democrats, especially, michigan and democratic primary which was a huge upset. telling factor from me, tremendous gender gap. men favoring bernie sanders, women going for hillary. but it was a surge in men supporting and men up state, part of michigan, we want someone speaks for us and understands the trade problems
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and understands what is going on here. those men, i think, are open to trump's message. harris: it is interesting what you say. they don't differentiate that much between what donald trump is selling and socialism bernie sanders is selling. they feel spoken to, men, women gender gap what you were talking about yesterday. i want to get back to the call for the tone to be civil tonight and moving forward. who does that help? do you see it playing out? andrea: i hope it plays out. i hope it is a g-rated debate. the last one was pretty disgusting, opening that way. it devolved into level that was embarrassing. i hope it was aboveboard. we've seen donald trump this week temper his rhetoric. he tried to say he would unify the party. talked about the down ballot senate races. almost somebody is saying to him you have to knock it off and he is listening. that is very good. i hope he sticks to it though. turns out when someone attacks
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him, tends to ignore, please, just keep it aboveboard tonight, donald, please. >> i want to jump in and say last night on fox marco rubio said he doesn't plan to do this again. he regrets what he did. he said his wife, his family -- >> very bad advice. harris: we'll get to more on that. i want to talk about delivering a knockout blow. do you believe, there are 99 take all in florida and 66 take all in ohio. if donald trump takes it is he unstoppable? is he more stoppable if one of the other takes it? >> i think if he takes florida, especially he is unstoppable. here is one of the things that make me think he might. if you look at polls, 63% of voters, majority of the republican party voters feel betrayed by politicians in their party. that is that thing, that nugget i think the party elders are still ignoring an they're still not trying to face up to the fact this is really what trump voters are saying. i feel like a lot of the
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republican party is trying to save these voters from themselves. you just don't realize what you're doing. you're too stupid to understand what you're doing. no, no. it is really happening on both sides. it is. harris: why they created superdelegates on the left? to be sort of make that, that notion we can control? andrea: progressives always believe we know better than you. trust us to spend your money better than you do. you're seeing that on the right this time around, sandra. right-wing, arrow goons of establishment and elites say we know better this time. every time they attack donald trump. every robocall mitt romney made only helps donald trump. they would be better served hiding next couple weeks and doing nothing. sandra: wonder what it means in the general election, juan, latest "fox news poll," 2% of the ohio republicans say they would review to vote for trump over democrat in november. 6% say the same of kasich. >> yeah. that has real consequences. if you're looking forward, and
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we come book to the idea of republican establishment, they're looking down ballot. they care what happens to the senate. they want to retain the control. they care about house, state legislatures, they're worried for the long-term viability of the republican brand. harris: i wrote down what you said, melissa, 63% feel betrayed. that word is so powerful. >> really is. harris: we'll move on. hillary clinton playing defense in last night's democratic debate on the heels of her stunning loss to bernie sanders in mesh goon but stayed mum on one big question hanging over the race. what if that fbi investigation into her email server leads to indictment? did she hand the question the way she should have? as we mentioned republicans headed back it debate stage for round 12. really has it been that many? we'll have preview of tonight's showdown completely. why one of these candidates said we mentioned it lightly, we'll get into it, he regretted some of the things he said on the campaign trail because it got pretty naughty.
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♪. andrea: hillary clinton on defense in last night's democratic debate, one night after her surprising upset loss to bernie sanders in the michigan primary. clinton facing tough questions on a number of issues from the get-go, including the benghazi terror attack where four americans were murdered when she was secretary of state. one of the victims mothers said clinton lied to her about the cause of the attack. telling her it grew from a riot over a youtube video about islam. clinton denying that claim. >> i certainly can't even imagine the grief that she has for losing her son but she's wrong. she is absolutely wrong. i and everybody in the administration, all the people she named, the president, the vice president, susan rice, we were scrambling to get information that was changing
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literally by the hour. this was fog of war. this was complicated. the most effective comprehensive, reports and studies demonstrate that. andrea: clinton was also asked about her email scandal and whether she would drop out of the race if the fbi indicts her? >> i think that what we got here is a case of overclassification. i'm not concerned bit. i am not worried about it. no democrat or american should be either. >> the question was --s. [cheers and applause] the questions -- >> there was no permission to be asked. it had been done by my predecessors. it was permitted. i didn't have to ask anyone. >> if you get indicted would you drop out? >> my goodness. it won't happen. i'm not even answering that question. andrea: there could be more trouble ahead. the rnc filed two lawsuits against the state department.
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one seeking release of communication including texts between clinton and her aides when she was secretary of state. the other seeking any emails or records between the state department and clinton's 2016 campaign, to see if there was any collusion over her email scandal. juan, this is a very, very big deal and i sense that the rnc, with these lawsuits, is trying to draw attention to this and perhaps pressure the fbi to release whatever they found. you have to assume that the fbi, this national security espionage group, very small group, investigating her, who is very good, you have to assume they're already looking into what the rnc is talking about in this lawsuit? >> remember, a lot of this stems from the benghazi investigation on capitol hill. that is how we know about the private server. then you have to extend that now to the texts. that is what the rnc is doing. they're saying, let's keep going. so what they're doing, i think, andrea, is drawing this out. i think this will now continue. you can imagine we'll come to a
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point, i would say by mid-summer where there will be a decision on whether or not to indict and all that. in between you may have hillary clinton called, ordered to testify to the fbi -- be part of that investigation to be interviewed. i think now beyond that rnc has it going forward. beyond the texts. what did it say. harris: what would you like to see your party have her do? short of indictment, pleads the fifth, you guys can't run her. >> can't run her. that is embarrassing if she starts pleading the fifth -- harris: what if fbi calls her in. >> fbi she make as show, in fact with bryan pagliano -- harris: got immunity. >> what you see there clinton's campaign we want him to cooperate. mrs. clinton looks forward to being cooperating. they don't -- if she pleads the fifth that would be atomic. andrea: here is what we already know. we already know that her staff,
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huma abedin and cheryl mills, were actively communicating on email, colluding to suppress evidence. we already know this. they're already colluding. so, what does this tell us about the severity of mrs. clinton's investigation? sandra: >> i mean it is incredibly serious. almost no one thinks it is not serious except for hillary clinton herself. when she sat there said it was permitted. ramos went far, went after her a bit but i can't believe he let that answer go by. it was absolutely not permitted. no one says it was. that is an insane answer. i'm shocked she got away with it. they pressed her pretty hard. i thought her answer was clever, i'm not going to answer the question. that is smart way to brush it off. sandra: not just the moderator let her off, bernie sanders continues to let her off. he is not pressing her. his words were during the debate the process will take its course. >> democrats just don't find this that interesting to be
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frank with her. sandra: that is sad. really sad. >> it is the truth. so it doesn't play politically. bernie sanders core supporters don't think this is a big issue. hillary clinton supporters don't think this is a big issue. republicans think it's a big issue, it would be if it blew up. andrea: harris she took a little different tact again last night, hillary clinton. she as new excuse, new plea with voters to look at her more of as human. take a listen. >> i'm not a natural politician in case you haven't noticed like my husband or president obama. so i have a view that i just have to do the best i can, get the results i can, make a difference in people's lives and hope that people see i'm fighting for them and that i can improve conditions, economically and other ways that will benefit them and their families. >> thank you. harris: when we first moved here a decade ago, my husband woos working for cbs finishing out his journalism contract there.
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he covered her running for and up to being in the senate. she is very much a natural politician, from everything that understand from tony and he covered everybody. >> like she is rookie here. harris: this is person who had, political animal if you will. >> she had 40 years of practice. if she wasn't a natural at beginning she should be by now. she had decades and decades of practice. what does that have to do with anything. harris: she plays the victim and plays the strong woman, you never know. go back to email just quickly. i think the moderator didn't ask the right question. not whether or not your predecessors ever had their own email, colin powell and others. that is not what at issue. did they have their own private secret server only certain people had access to with private passwords and was off lot, if you will? that's the question. she answered the question he asked. >> that is not illegal. harris: having your own private server -- >> yes it is. >> no it is not. it is definitely not illegal. harris: classified information being on the server. >> that is the problem.
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if there is classified information, opportunity to hack it. exposing the united states. >> we've already seen there is. >> they said, in fact we know that they said there was no hacking so far. andrea: juan, there is upwards of over 2,000 emails that pointed to fact that she was operating above the law. that is fact. it is -- she won't answer the question. harris: 104 she authored herself. andrea: if she won't answer the question. no one operated way hillary clinton paymented. >> that is fact. andrea: based on foia emails she has committed a felony. >> i think she is entitled and privileged in this behavior. if you're asking me illegal, i don't see it. andrea: highly illegal. harris: doing way predecessors had. clearly we talked about. andrea: no one ever has. to the other side of the aisle, tonight is the 12th republican debate. the stakes could not be higher. four remaining candidates face
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off at university of miami five days ahead of critical winner-take-all contests in florida and ohio. both absolute must-wins for marco rubio and john kasich. all this as florida senator is expressing regret over launching personal attacks against donald trump. >> you got a little dirty on the campaign, you got a little naughty out on -- >> first of all, that is not who i am. >> you know what i'm talking about all right? a little bit? >> i would do it differently, i really would. the reason my kids were embarrassed by it. my wife didn't like it. that does not reflect who i am and my campaign will be about. >> do you egret that? >> i would do it differently, yes i would. andrea: donald trump is promising to play nice if his opponent do the same. trump telling sean hannity he plans to act in more presidential manner when the time is right. >> thank gosh. andrea: we can all eat dinner tonight and not throw up a
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little bit in our mouth. sandra: we watched after the debate and sat on the couch and it was very uncomfortable. we discussed this is turning point in marco rubio's campaign. it didn't work. tried to play donald trump's game. he failed at it. that is big moment. andrea: juan, let's go back to authenticity among candidates. we talked about hillary clinton vacillating between strong victim and. and marco rubio getting nasty advice becoming a nasty comedian. the reason donald trump is resonating, he is himself almost too much so. >> ego, but like unleashed to america. i don't know how you do it. you talk about, you know somebody joking around, simon rosenberg, trump using teleprompter? no. that is pretty funny. i want to go back for a second to hillary. i don't think she is very good politician. i think she is political animal if that is what you asked. harris: i said political animal.
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>> when i see her on the stump do i think she has the capacity to fill the room, generate that kind of excitement? one of the intriguing arguments about this is, can a woman be a bill clinton? can a woman be a barack obama in terms of that energy, that aggression, that comes across to some people as passion and definition of a leader? thatcher -- andrea: carly fiorina. she is very tough. she is very, very -- >> where is she? andrea: look what they did to her. juan juan i think it's a different standard, even today. andrea: rubio admitting, conceding he made a colossal make that only helped donald trump. what do you do -- harris: because you and i have talked about the power of the apology, and when you issue it and when you don't. it's complicated, because after the debate stumble he had a few weeks back, he apologized, it's all on me. now this, i apologize, it's all on me. you know what i mean?
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how about taking the responsibility before you actually do the thing. like, are you learning as an animal now? you know, three times a charm? sandra: i take it i much more calculated, i wonder if he's auditioning for vp here. harris: apologizing for mistakes a lot? sandra: if he says ahead of time i went too far, i was wrong, is he trying to get in the back door? [laughter] it goes against everything trump wrote in "the art of the deal," never apologize for business. juan: you know, rubio had a lot riding on this. first of all, what happened to marco rubio? guy was on fire two weeks ago, and now he's gone, basically. i don't think he's got much of a chance in florida. it's a shocker. and he's under attack from trump with paid ads. donald trump's finally paying for something. harris: 99 delegates in florida. andrea: the lesson here, always be yourself, even if people hate
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♪ ♪ sandra: a report out today documenting systematic brutality against christians at the hands of isis. it was released by two major u.s.-based christian groups including the knights of columbus, the largest catholic fraternal association, who insist isis is guilty of nothing short of genocide. the nearly 300-page report lays out the atrocities in detail. it comes as u.s. lawmakers are preparing to introduce a bill next week declaring the terror group's mass killing of christians and some other minorities in the milting east as -- middle east as genocide.
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the state department has so far resisted the designation, saying it's a complicated legal issue. juan, why do they stop short of calling this what it is? >> for not only legal reasons, but for military reasons. once you designate it as genocide, you are compelled to take action. and the action may not be in the shape that the u.s. is pursuing its strategy against isis who are the perpetrators of what i will say is this genocide. sandra: do you agree with that, melissa? melissa: i do. and why i think it's important to do it. words matter, and the u.n. went as close to saying as they may have committed genocide war crimes and crimes against humanity, and they listed the atrocities that are too gruesome for us to even say right here. it's really horrific. and i think you have to call it genocide, and then that does force you to take action, and it makes you wonder, i mean, we always look backing and say what were people doing when hitler was trying to extinguish the jews. and to me, this feels like the
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same situation. i know not everyone shares that, but, you know, i really think why that's in this case words are important, and we should be -- sandra: words are important. and i know you have some different thoughts on this, andrea. andrea: well, if you are to designate as genocide, let's take it a step further. that would mean you have to acknowledge that there is a radical islamic enemy on a holy war against christians and against infidels. that is something that the white house won't do. i mean, they won't acknowledge the enemy, they won't say radical islamic jihad. they say there's no war on terror. they said isis is not islamic, i believe the president said. so in order for them to acknowledge the victims, they have to acknowledge the perp perpetrator. and their not willing to acknowledge the perpetrator. they want to ignore this, run the clock out on the war on terror. every action the administration has taken is leading from behind which only emboldens an enemy. sandra: and i know when we were talking about in the other day you led the conversation, harris, and there you sit with
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the definition of general side -- harris: the intent to systematically eliminate a cultural, ethnic, radical, racial or religious group. religious group. i mean, it seems pretty clear. and on the list is the holocaust. the top ten list. i can't even believe it's listed like that, but the top ten worst genocides -- >> well, here's the question, then, for the table. i mean -- harris: there's no table. this isn't "the five." [laughter] >> what is this? a foot stool. who has isis killed more of, christians or muslims? answer: muslims. and you have to ask yourself if these are the kind of divide we see in the muslim world, my god, they're killing each other. harris: okay, but -- yes, along the lines of muslims. shia, sunni, but there is a split even within their own religion. >> and they're killing each other. harris: i mean, you can parse it
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like that, but basically this is just the annihilation, and you can check so many of those boxes as they annihilate -- andrea: and also if they call it genocide, that also flies in the face of the pathetic excuse of the state department, which is this is all caused by climate change. unemployment, climate change. they want to do everything but acknowledge the genesis of this multi-millennia -- sandra: will we see -- andrea: ann this is, essentially, a holy war. so revoking the genocide points to the fact that this is driven by a per vision of the -- perversion of the islamic faith. harris: i have a question for you. you have talked many times about strategy. calling it genocide would mean you have to have a strategy. sandra: a fair point. and do you think there will be change from the state department on this? >> there's tremendous pressure. knights of columbus, and also the pope. they see this -- it's a small group of christians, but it is so overwhelming and so awful. we don't even want to tk about
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it. melissa: yeah. >> but i think there has to be something done. it just makes my heart cry out. harris: march 17th is the deadline for the state department to say whether or not they'll do it. sandra: well, a student group at one university issuing a long list of demands including the creation of a new college dedicated to social justice with the power to fire campus police officers over micro-aggressions. is this more p.c. craziness? we'll debate it next. ♪ ♪
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melissa: student activists at western wan university publishing a list of demands, you'll love it, ordering the creation of a new college dedicated to social justice as well as the formation of a student committee with the power to fire faculty members, even police officers, who they believe are engaging in what they call the group calls microaggressions. that proposed 15-member panel would, quote: man to have, document and archive -- monitor, document and archive all anti-black, transphobic, homophobic, islam to phobic and otherwise aggressive behavior on campus. the school's president responding by praising the, quote, out of the box thoughtfulness of those student demands but saying they wouldn't
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work for, you know, a variety of reasons. i love this. juan, my favorite part of this whole thing is that they asked them how they want to the pay for this organization that'll have a new library and immediately has a staff, and they want to build its own building, and they say, quote, acquiring such funding, that's the responsibility of the administration. so they want the responsibility to fire people and to call aggression what and moderate behavior, but they don't want to pay for it. >> no. well, i guess they figure that's their tuition. it's something like having speakers on campus, it comes out of student funds. melissa: they would scream if you had to raise -- >> i mean, i can tell you have a sense of humor about this. it's fairly ridiculous. melissa: i do, yeah. >> there's a serious angle, melissa, which is there is a p.c. movement on american campuses. man, you can't say anything, you can't do anything, you can't give a look without being the hook. harris: have you talked with your fellow democrats about this? >> you kidding?
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i was on a campus, i won't name it, but it was, like, microaggression, what are you talking about? at the point at which i grew up as a black person in america, if you were hung up about micro-aggressions, you might as well have just stayed at home. [laughter] harris: the struggle was about real aggression. sandra: i'm sorry, did you learn mention the use of the word "person," they have to spell it differently? melissa: no, i didn't, thank you. sandra: the o is replaced with an x because it presumes it's overly gendered because "son" is in the word. >> oh, my gosh. harris: how do you pronounce that? melissa: it's like prince, it's just a character. sandra: the money part of this is astounding. there's not even an estimate of how much this'll cost, their just turning over -- melissa: they want to have a $50,000 opening event to mark the beginning of the school. andrea, i love that. what is really scary is that a
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they want to have the authority to oversee, quote, the behavior of students, administrators, tenured faculty and even university police controlling -- sandra: andrea loves this, i'm sure. melissa: isn't that interesting? andrea: it is interesting. something happens to one of these students and they're in trouble, who are they going to call? the campus police? after they fire them? harris: yeah, right. andrea: this country is so screwed. i don't even know what else to say. really, we talk about these topics all the time. this is the next generation of meshes. i mean, juan, you're absolutely right. this p.c. culture, it's not like this in the real world. >> no. andrea: but i see it changing the more they start to infect the real world, because there's more millennials than baby boomers, so if they bring this culture out to the real world, then what? we're subjected to all their micro-aggressions in the workplace. that's the next shoe -- sandra: i don't know that they're going to get to workplace. melissa: as a parent, boy, i would not want to be paying for
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this tuition. and i don't know how these students are going to pay back their student loans because they're not learning skills they could possibly use in the real world, sorry. a live look at the reagan presidential library where mourners have been paying final respects to former first lady nancy reagan as she lies in repose before a private ceremony tomorrow. we're going to be right back. equals anti-social. hey guys, i want you to meet my fiancée, denise. hey. good to meet you dennis. it takesi'm on the move.. to all day long...ss. and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost to get the nutrition that i'm missing.
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