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president, what is he going to do if he doesn't get what he wants from the congress? is he going to call for the people to riot? this is nonsense. utterly nonsense. >> we shall see. thank you. with all the breaking news, we appreciate it. hello. i'm greg gutfeld with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, dana perino, "the five." this morning on another network i will not mention,cnn, donald trump said that a contested convention would be super awesome. >> i think we'll win before getting to the convention but i can tell you, if we didn't and if we're 20 votes short or if we're 100 short, and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody, i don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically.
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i think it would be, i think you would have riots. i think you would have riots. >> i must have misheard. emthere will be riots, twice. maybe he didn't mean it. it probably doesn't matter. we should be consistent. if we get on the radicals if their demands are not met, we should do that here. who would trump supporters riot against? i can't see them destroying businesses because either they work there or they own it. they don't tip over cop trucks or fire trucks because they're cops and did firefighters themselves. law-abiding people. what of the kinder gentler one? trump's comments is aware that he has a faithful army and it must be really good knowing they are there and willing to fight for you and stick by you even if
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you shoot someone on fifth avenue. being an actual leader means not abusing power but humbly respecting it. suggesting lawlessness even off hand in response to a lawful but unpopular event isn't very presidential. even though a movement can feel really exciting, we must not shed our skrooples in service of a phenomenon. america did that once in 2008. >> all right, juan. will there be riots if there is a contested convention? yes or no. i'm doing my mclaughlin report. yes or no? >> no. >> wrong! >> there will be riots. >> okay. >> there will be anger but there won't be riots, will there? >> what we saw last night. >> that was between two different factions. >> that's what's going on.
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two different factions of republicans. >> republicans rioting against republicans? they'll be throwing their golf bags at each other. >> the cleveland police have bought riot gear. >> but was not because of an intraparty -- >> i see. always blame the liberals. trump is not calling on liberals to riot. he is calling on his supporters. >> he is not saying riot. >> he didn't call on anyone to riot. he said he thinks there could be riots. >> who would do such a thing? >> i don't know. >> first of all, for the record, there's not going to be that at th are contested convention. after last night when rubio got out after a thorough trumping, thumping of the field last night by trump, the delegate match was very, very strong in his favor to earn at leaf the 1237 or more. take it forward. >> let me say --
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>> let's do throwback thursday. what's black, white and read all over? a newspaper. the headline was something like this. half the remaining -- >> here's the deal. >> the "wall street journal," they're completely wrong on this one. they're 48% of the delegates have been won by trump already. he's won 65% of the contest. why does that matter? because going forward, there are 11 winner take all, or winner take most. and there are only six proportional. so the delegates are heavily weighted to winner take all and winner take most. if do you the math, and apply it forward. he gets the 1,300. if you take rubio out of the math, he gets even higher than 1,300. but they're not, they don't want to look at it that way.
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dane, a do you think it is important? that trump measures his words as he becomes more and more likely the nominee? and the fact that it only takes one nut to listen to him and doing do have something stupid. it wouldn't be his fault but we're having this discontent in other areas. >> i don't think this morning he was suggesting that there should be a riot. i think he was saying, what could possibly happen? and because there hand been a contested convention in so long, nobody knows what it would be like. and i think if there were to be a contested convention, it would be a big fight. >> will we be doing midnight shows? >> i hope so. i was on fire last night. >> on fire? >> i was so -- >> i do think, let's say that if eric is correct on the math and
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this is, this conversation is moot, if it does to go a contested convention, whoever is going to be in the lead at the time, if it comes down to these three. cruz, trump and kasich. then yes. all three leaders need to say, understand the passion. i think we have a good plan. let's go in and win this thing and nobody needs to fight about it. >> i don't think the republicans will have republican on republican actual violence. i don't believe that. >> khakis everywhere. golf stuff flying. >> let me ask but the other protests. these ant-trump groups. they're having the largest civil distorn. there is democracy. it looks like george soros, moveon.org, demos, or is it demonic? i'm not sure. >> that's to be expected, right? they've already been trying to disenfranchise people who want
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to gather to listen to the candidate of their choice, showing up in chicago. trying to shut down free speech. oh, those are the liberals doing that. then you find the speech they don't agree with, they want to shut it down. so there's the whole double standard of hypocrisy there. let me go back to donald trump. i don't think he will take it lightly but also the people who are supporting hill wouldn't want him to take it lightly. they would want him to stand up and be an advocate saying, hey, the actual voters, not just voters. the people have decided and come out in record numbers to decide and have put a lot of support, yes, mr. trump, behind ted cruz. absolutely. so yeah. if i were ted cruz or donald trump and i would have the most votes going in there, i would expect to be able to receive the nomination from the party. >> you understand that there are rules. >> i understand that. but i would also not expect for somebody who maybe won one state or no states to be able to go in
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and get points in a bizarre monarchy. those are not the principles the country was founded on. >> nobody is saying monarchy. the rules of the convention are you have to have a certain number of delegates to win. >> i get how it works. >> right now we're making fun of these liberal group that's might come in. we're worried but not too worried about trump calling for riots among his supporters. the fact is there is a large segment of republican vote here's don't want trump. >> do you know the last time a candidate who wasn't leading going into a contested convention became the nominee? >> 1948? >> 1940. 78 years ago. i mean, our grandparents were kids at the time. the rules are there. but not to, listen to what kimberly is saying. life has changed, too. the people want a voice. the reason why donald trump has become such a thing.
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people expect their voice to be heard. if they think they're voting for a candidate and it gets to the rules committee and it change at the convention, the rules committee can change the game at the convention to pick whoever they want. if that happens, i agree, donald trump is probably right. there will be protests. >> they're not changing the rule. >> they can. >> you can change the rules. >> i'm saying the current rules are the rule. >> change the rules and say we don't need 1237. now you need 1350 and it has to be a super majority. >> you're saying this will be outlawed. >> i'm saying -- >> if they can appeal the vote for a candidate in an overwhelming plurality of states and delegates and votes, he is not the nominee. >> let me say, thing can change in a moment. right now we know and we saw this last night.
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even as trump was doing extremely well. most of the late deciders were going against him. so that's the voice of the people too. >> the voice of republicans. >> waiting to hear the first group of pundits who have been trashing what's going on with the trump, to start softening the tone. maybe, you know, it will happen any time. and i think after last night, you're going to start hearing it now. >> ted cruz is one of the top constitutional lawyers in the country which right there, standing by cruz, by trump, standing up for himself if they were to try and deny constitutionally the ability to go in and have those delegates. >> don't you think cruz will be contesting? >> cruz is in the same position as donald trump. he is. one of the two of them will be the nominee. >> this is trump on fox and friends. he was talking about what would happen if there's a third party. i think he is for it.
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>> the third party will mean an absolute total victory for the democrats. it will mean four or five very liberal judges. and the country will never be the same. you'll never recover. that will be the end of the country as you know it. that will be a disaster. >> i have to look at these thoughts before i present them. what do you make of that? >> practically for a third party to actually get on the ballot, i think you have to get some crazy number. almost 100,000 signatures in three weeks from today. >> and i think it is a hypothetical that we don't need to worry about now. i don't think it will happen. >> unless you're trying to get somebody fired from america's got talent. you will never get 100,000 people to sign anything. petitions only work in the entertainment industry. >> and bloomberg said he is not running. >> i think that it is a moot point as well. >> up moot point twice. i think you're working yourself
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toward the banned phrase. >> this nomination poll. if trump has the most delegates going to the republican convention but not enough to win the majority, do you think he should win the nomination? 53% said he should and 42% said he should not. and 5%, no opinion. that was an abc poll. there you go. the people have spoken. all right. coming up -- after last night's big victory, it is looking more like a trump versus clinton showdown in november. but can donald actually beat hillary? that debate next.
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donald trump and hillary clinton are one step closer to the general election. trump has been sounding off against his competitor. >> i haven't even started on her yet. the one person she does not want to run against is me. that i can tell you. >> she is an embarrassment to our country. she is under federal investigation. she doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be president. >> and the gop front-runner ramping up his attacks. take a look at the new instagram video he put up today. hillary doesn't seem fazed. here's what she says going
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forward. >> 600,000 more and i think i'm ready to take him on if he is in that position. >> so who would win? according to the latest polls, hillary, a "wall street journal" poll has hillary leading. and rasmussen has hillary ahead by 5 points. >> i just think there's room for optimism if you're, whoever the republican nominee is. if you're donald trump in particular, if you look at the turnouts from last night. remember at the midnight show we didn't have these numbers. in florida, they had, let me make sure i'm right. they had 3.9 million vote yesterday. that's up by half a million from over 2012. for -- the democrats did not at all come near that. 35% of the people from 2012.
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so there's some enthusiasm on both sides. if you're looking at the must-win state of florida and how decisive it was for donald trump in florida. if you're in the trump camp, you would have a lot of optimism looking at that state. these national polls in the head to head. they're important and interesting but when it comes down to the seven swing states, the head to head in both states are more important. not all good news for donald trump on that front in particular but i would say in terms of turnout, in those important states, florida being one of the most important ones, he had a significant edge last night. >> in 2008, the last time it was uncontested. to 2016. the republicans, the latest numbers, 61% turnout. 61% turnout. for on the democrat side, down by 23% down. >> i would say, i must tell you that i think the republicans
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base, the republicans campaign, it is literally real life tv. reality tv. it is fascinating. and donald trump, what a leading character. it is amazing. if you're just a casual observer of politics and you're tuning in, i think you would be, i think the republican primary would galvanize you. but would grab your attention. get more people involved. historically, it just doesn't pan out in terms general election turnout. and don't forget. >> can you just clarify that? >> sure. that it doesn't translate. >> do you have any proof -- >> you've never had a 61% increase. >> historically when you see a huge difference in turnout during the primary and caucus season, it doesn't translate to turnout in the general election. >> suggesting that people won't show up. >> people saying i'm good now. >> the reason would be, especially in this case. there are so many republicans who are not trump supporters.
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so trump is the nominee, not only that. there are so many people who are strongly ant-trump who would be energized on the other side. >> according to this and then i'll shut up. according to my friend, even if all the sanders supporters voted for hillary, more than half of all the nontrump republicans would have to stay home for clinton to win the state. so the numbers are overwhelmingly positive on the republican side in florida on this date. >> she's right. it come down to the seven swing states. when you look at florida, haflt night trump was alouing to this. all the poll workers. they've never seen a turnout like this. you have to take that state. you have to take ohio if you want to win the presidency of the united states. and again, look at hillary. the barking dog response. that will be the choice and the alternative. maybe people will come around. maybe they take little pepsid ac. actually, i don't want her
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deciding the next supreme court justice. >> okay. superman versus batman. the movie is coming out on march 25th. and batman embarks on a vendetta against superman. trump versus hillary is superman for batman for people who don't wear sweats all day. this could be really, really really ugly. we all want to see it. it will be popeye versus pluto. rocky versus apollo creed. and i don't think it is helpful for trump to play down the polls. you have to act like you're behind so you can fight hard. you don't want to take anything for grand. >> the thing is, he says i haven't started going after her and taking hits. we saw a little of that today with the video. if you think about it, which republican candidate will get after her very aggressively? >> he's going on relish turning her into a mysogynist, right? >> she doesn't seem will so hopeless or helpless. >> i don't know.
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>> that might be true for some voters but i think that when you look at, remember last week we had republican women who are 37% approval rating for trump in january. last week we're down to 24% in the first week of march. that is a slide that he can't continue to have. he has to figure out a way to turn that around. so that delegate balance. he doesn't do delicate. >> you have to get back together. you have to romance them. >> the "washington post" abc, trump loses women to hillary clinton. plus 21%. and millennials, voters under 35. he loses by more than 33 points. >> you're talking to clinton. >> yes. >> this is eight months away. >> that's all we can do. we can't project. >> do you remember eight months prior to this date who was winning on the gop side? trump was polling high but he was losing head to head to
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everybody. every single republican candidate he was losing to with the exception of what was that one guy, gilmore? maybe he was winning. >> did he ever drop out? >> we're not going to get to david plouffe. david plouffe was a big adviser to barack obama and thought, oh my gosh, if trump gets in, nobody knows what he'll do. >> he's a wild card. and he could do anything. he might be the biggest threat to hillary clinton. >> that's what i was referencing. >> president obama makes his pick for the supreme court. signaling what promises to be a partisan showdown. i have asthma... ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece
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some big news with president obama announcing his choice to replace antonin scalia. >> after an exhaustive process, not only one of the sharpest legal minds but someone who brings to his work a spirit of decency, modesty, integrity, even handedness and excellence. today i am nominating chief judge merrick brian garland to join the supreme court. >> judge garltd, a long time federal appeals court judge was emotional while accepting the nomination to the nation's highest court. >> thank you, mr. president. this is the greatest honor of my life. other than my wife agreeing to marry me 28 years ago. also the greatest gift i've ever
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received except, and there is another caveat, the birth of our daughters, jess and becky. mr. president, a great privilege to be nominated by a fellow chicagoan. i am grateful beyond words for the honor you have bestowed upon me. >> the president's move is setting up what is likely to be a brutal election year battle with senate republicans. kimberly -- >> i knew it. >> you understand a little bit about the tension here. senate republicans so far, saying they will not grant a hearing to judge garland. >> and they said that without consideration for who in fact candidate would be. they're saying as a general principle they believe the next supreme court justice should as a matter of fact be decided by the next president of the united states. that plays both ways. if hillary clinton wins, she gets to pick. if one of the republicans wins, cruz, kasich, trump, they would
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get the pick. doing a lot of research about the candidates before today's speech by the president and nominating this individual, he is a very highly regarded, in fact, i think would be a good choice except for the time frame of what's going on. i find that he is actually much more consistent with being a constitutionalist than say, for example, sotomayor or kagan. this might be the best the republicans could hope for. i'll tell you what. hillary clinton if she gets in, i guarantee you will pick somebody more liberal than this individual. >> so -- >> a very, very tough game of russian roulette. >> you're a good chess player. >> i think they need to chess play this out completely. i agree with kimberly as far as nominees go. he would be the most centrist that you could hope for but i think this is a little politics being played by president obama knowing that the senate republicans won't do it, they've said they won't do it.
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so he put the most central rift possible pick up there. he can say see, the republicans are playing politics. unfortunately, he is the pawn in this political game. therefore, here's what i would do. i would slow walk it. i would give it a hearing. slow walk it, have another hearing. until you final out who will be the next president. >> if you're going to get hillary clinton, confirm him immediately. if not, slow walk it again and say listen, we'll let the people decide with the next president. >> i want to ask you, what do you think about the idea that he was confirmed by a large majority of both parties in the past. and we see presidents, republicans, you know, i think in the 80s, reagan. what exactly is the strongest possible republican argument for not allowing him to go forward? >> they might use "the new york times" headline which is, a supreme court with merrick garland would be the most
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liberal in decades. start there. i think they're under no obligation. he said mr. president, we're going to use the biden rule. that was, let's not confirm anybody in a political year. hard too argue against the biden rule if you're in the white house. they're playing russian roulette or american roulette. if hillary clinton becomes the nominee, and the republicans lose the senate, because a president usually brings in whoever on their coat tails. then they're playing a dangerous game. i think there's been somebody like miguel estrada. eminently qualified judge who could not get confirm because of politics on the democratic side. i think it is the most important
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thing you can do as a president when you leave the legacy. president obama has had two, george w. bush has had two. looking at the supreme court now, you can see several more in the next few years. >> like that movie the big payback. >> a couple things. about the confirmation process, the president said he doesn't want to make the about divisive politics which is obama for please agree with me. emthe judge is prepared to serve immediately. so i asked why the rush? is the court going to turn into a pumpkin? a rule of thumb. if someone is rushing you to make a decision, they are hiding something. so what are they hiding about this guy? he is incredibly left wing about guns. they're going to portray him as safe and as a centrist but he voted against the right to keep a gun in your house for defense. in washington, d.c.
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he is against individual freedoms when it come to protecting yourself and your family. >> 19 years of paper in the business of all of his opinions and everything that he's written. when they did john roberts, they went to memos that he would at 25 years old. ones that he wrote in french. they had to have them translated. that's how met i go lust they were. >> this guy is well known and there will be a paper trail. he was involve with the oklahoma city bombing. did he a very good job there. and i happened to come across him when he was investigating marion berry. >> were you call as a material witness? >> as you know, greg gutfeld. ahead, stick around. a big surprise later in the show. really big. but first, new feminist outrage over hillary clinton's tone on the campaign trail.
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for all of our challenges, i've never had more faith in our future. if we work together, if we go forward in this campaign, if we win in november, i know our future will be brighter. tomorrow and yesterday. thank you all so very much. >> fired up. last night, it was all the buzz. people were coming on the tone of hillary's speech. politico tweeted, hillary clinton in a nut shell calling
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for love and kindness. by shouting. and smile, you just had a big night. and howard tweeted, hillary shouting her speech. she has the floor. a more conversational tone might be better for connecting with folk at home. now "cosmopolitan" magazine is slamming her critics by claiming the sexist card. >> that speech did not go over well with some dudes in the media. because she appeared, you know, fired up and was not all smiles. it was about the double standard that women face every day. we're sick of it! >> i don't think the clinton campaign is entirely wrong. and women, especially because you don't have a deeper register. i'm not saying a high pitched voice. i hate the sound of my own voice. you've seen the thing, dana's corny joke of the day. it is not something that you would want to listen to. is that your voice?
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>> it is my voice. >> remember carly fiorina. what was the thing about her? she never smiled. why doesn't she look happy? how many time have reseen hillary's campaign saying now we're going to show you the more likable hillary. here it comes. i think if you love hillary clinton, that speech was great for you. if you don't and you're settled that you're never going to vote for her, that speech greated on your nerves and there's probably 10% that are maybe persuadable. >> every time hillary opens her mouth, an angel fall from the sky and lands in a wheat thresher. and it has nothing to do with her gender or being shrill. it is because when you listen to her, she drips with insincerity. hit nothing to do with her being a woman. when somebody is yelling and being dramatic, it is because they feel that their speech is weak. contrast that with trump. he never yell. he is basically talking to the
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audience. he is so comfortable in his own skin. and i hate that cliche. he just talks and it is real. when somebody is yelling and they're not. they. if we were in a conversation right now, i wouldn't be talking to you like this. but that's what she's doing. >> you document when you do -- >> that's different. >> that's angry. >> yes. >> she doesn't speak like the normal person. >> it sounds like -- >> a liar. >> i don't know about that. baeng. you have to be a happy warrior is what they're saying. >> be careful while you slay a dragon. >> because she is a female, i'm saying what i'm about to say. she does it more than anyone else. male or female. she'll deliver a line knowing where the applause is about to hit. and she'll step on the accelerator right into it. the whole crowd goes crazy and she keeps doing and it doing it. unless you love her and it is
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like listening to your favorite band. i've heard this song. >> or you could play it at gitmo really loud to annoy terrorists. >> i know women politicians think there is a double standard. i think she is doing what greg describe. i think she feels like i'm not my husband. i'm not barack obama. i'm not a great speaker and i'm trying to compensate. i'm trying to put that power in. people think she needs the passion to match donald trump. and she is trying to deliver only promise. she is trying to get her base the way trump does. when bill o'reilly because giving advice to jeb bush this past year. when he had him on the show. and he was saying, you need match the anger. you're not rising to the anger. and then, if a candidate doesn't
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feel in it their heart and they try to do and it it is inauthentic, voters can smell it a mile away. >> i think it is harder for a woman. >> do i too. i remember when peggy noonan said hillary clinton can sound like your neighbor who says your kids left their bikes in the hallway and it is something you don't want to listen to. >> it is kind of rich of having cosmo accuse anyone of searchism. i used to write for them. they have the lowest assumption of how women think. i wrote a column many years ago. >> what was it call. >>? it was something like that. >> listen. at least she's throwing that she's fired up and passionate. >> who really wants to feel burn? >> people believe that he's real.
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kimberly is very excited about this. >> i love music. there is music that i don't like. i would like to you pick at home whatever you think is the best song, keeping in mind my persuasion to dance. >> tomorrow, thurs's show. we'll play this. you have a very eclectic taste in music. >> i discovered i really love love songs. >> and then, remember, he once asked me. what are your top five songs? i said i like paul simon. i think it plays into your ideas about the old guy.
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>> you're the lionel richie radio on pandora. >> get off me. >> day one on the show, i picked the bump in and bump out music. >> i've always had this rule. it takes a really long time. they had one rule. the music cannot match the segment. we're doing a segment about horses. classic rock is on the way in. i liked that one song. >> lying. >> you have the eclectic taste. almost every genre of music. >> you have your taste in music.
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>> i think if you're going to make any suggestions for songs, the word but has to be in the title. okay? i will have nothing if it doesn't have but in the title. if you can find any norwegian death metal a cappella, i will play that tomorrow. >> you love them, don't you? >> i love country music. i always like americana and i would love to final a couple of new bands to listen to. >> how about the os monlds? >> that's not new. levi's son told me about a band, need to breathe. we played it already a couple of time. it was great. >> so do you like it? >> we have to go. at "the five." one more thing is up next.
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i think we should've taken a tarzan know where tarzan go! tarzan does not know where tarzan go. hey, excuse me, do you know where the waterfall is? waterfall? no, me tarzan, king of jungle. why don't you want to just ask somebody? if you're a couple, you fight over directions. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. oh ohhhhh it's what you do. ohhhhhh! do you have to do that right in my ear? omt, go. >> it's you. >> i know. >> put it up again. >> great st. patrick day tips. they told me we had to be in a hurry and they screwed it up. tomorrow is st. patrick's day and if you're going to do a
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parade in the middle of the city, think about while you're drinking in the afternoon, the overwhelming majority are going to work. do not treat the streets like your personal urinal. if you're on public transportation, realize that not everybody else is drinking with you. they might be going to the hospital, might be stressed out, they might be in a bad mood. don't start pouring booze on them. if you call in sick on friday, you don't deserve to drink. >> people don't go to the hospital on a bus. they would die. >> someone asked me how they can explain to their 5th grader the difference between capitalism, communism and socialism. there's a great article on this and eric actually has the best explanations. >> quickly, capitalism, think of warren buffett, the prophet motive. socialism, think of president obama, redistributor of your wealth. and come you nichl, think of
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bernie sanders. >> feel the bern in your wallet. >> this will drive you crazy. listen to curly hogeland. he's an rnc delegate on the rules committee. listen to what he said today. >> the media has created a perception that the voters will decide the nomination and that's the conflict here. >> let me do that again. listen to it very quickly one more time. listen to what he just said. >> the media has created the perception that the voters will decide the nomination and that's the conflict here. >> the conflict isn't that. the conflict is the voters should be determining the president, not the delegates who think they have all the power. they're elected by the people. >> curly was one of the stoojs. i'm going to be on hannity tonight with tucker carlson and geraldo rivera. >> i take a painful trip down memory lane and went to see the demolition of the "washington
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post" building. it opened in '72. october of 2013 it was sold to jeff bezos at amazon but the building wasn't included to they're demolishing that. >> got to go. the battle over the supreme court begins. president obama selects a nominee and republicans dig in on their refusal to consider him. this is special report. good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. senate republicans are now on the clock. whether they are also on the spot is yet to be determined. president obama is nominating a widely respected moderate to fill the vacancy on the u.s. supreme court described by many that way. it is a pick designed in part to pressure g.o.p. senators to back down from their promise to reject any nominee in the president's final year. and that ignites

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