jon: we will be back here with the second hour one hour from now. "outnumbered" starts right now. heather: bye. ♪ ♪ andrea: this is "outnumbered," i'm andrea tan tantaros, and wis today, harris faulkner, kirsten powers is back, yea, actress and commentator stacey dash is also back, and today's #oneluckyguy, we welcome to the couch for the very first time anthony scaramucci, founder of skybridge capital and co-host of wall street week, the iconic business show that's premiering on fox business tomorrow at 8 p.m. eastern. anthony, welcome. we're so happy you're with us. >> thank you so much. andrea: and we have to tell you, you're outnumbered. >> in the hair spray, too, i saw that. [laughter] harris: you look fabulous. you didn't need any. congrats on the new show.

>> thank you very much, harris. andrea: we'll talk about it later in the show. donald trump issuing a warning to the gop saying if it goes to the convention with the highest number of delegates and the party tries to deny him the nomination, bad things will happen. listen. >> if we're, you know, 100 short and we're or at 1100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody, i don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. i think it would be -- i think you'd have riots. you know, we have -- i'm representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people. andrea: but rnc spokesman sean spicer trying to tamp down trump's rhetoric, insisting that's not what he meant. >> i assume he's speaking figuratively. i think if we go into a convention, whoever gets 1237 delegates becomes the nominee, it's plain and simple. andrea: and one of trump's most outspoken sporters, scotty nell

hughes, defending his remarks. >> riots aren't necessarily a bad thing if it means because it's fighting the fact that our establishment republican party has gone corrupt and decided to ignore the voice of the people. andrea: hughes would add later that by "riots," she means trump's supporters making their voices heard and not actual violence. okay, anthony, what do you make of donald trump saying if he's denied the nomination, this is likely to be violent acts? >> one of the things we've learned about him, he doesn't have a great filter for this sort of thing, so using the word "riot" was probably the wrong thing to say. i don't think he means he wants violence in the streets, but he's saying he's won the process, he's done all the work, andrea, he's gone to all the elections, filled out all the campaigning stuff. if he's at 1100,1150, there's going to be a lot of upset people. i think he has to watch himself now. somehow we've got to get a presidential edit chip in his personality going forward for

people to find him acceptable as the nominee. andrea: uh-huh. stacey, we can't do an edit-delete, and donald trump doesn't even like that -- >> i know that personally. [laughter] andrea: we love you for it. a lot of people on twitter and social media saying, well, he's right. donald trump is right, and there you go without the filter just say what's likely to happen even though he's not condoning it. stacey: yeah. and i think if the rnc continues to ignore the people who consider themselves republicans, it's going to harm the party. if we don't get behind trump, hillary's going to win, and we're done as a party. and it saddens me, it really does, because he is anti-establishment, and they're just proving it by going so hard against him. andrea: uh-huh. kirsten, what do you think? on some level even just from a political standpoint, trump probably shouldn't have said it even if it is true because if violent acts happen, then they can say -- which he's been doing

already even though he has not -- inciting violence. key key i think that would be wrong to say he's inciting violence, because i think he's just saying what would happen, and i think he's right. i think there actually would be riots probably. hopefully, that wouldn't be what would happen, but at a minimum, people would be incredibly angry. how they choose to act that out, we don't know. and they would have a right to be angry. people think that you vote, and the person who gets the most votes wins. that's normally the way it should work. in fact, what actually would happen is if he doesn't hit the number, he doesn't get the 1237, we're probably going to see a contested convention, and i think that would understandably make people angry. andrea: harris, there is, as kirsten mentioned, there's kernels of truth in his statement. people feel they are being denied their voice, and this has been happening for months. so he's right. harris: it's not just that they feel that way, it's backed up by evidence. you have talk now before the process has even gone through

there could be this contested situation in cleveland, ohio. look how many months away we were when that conversation started. it was even pre-primary. like, what were they, clairvoyant? it's not just that they feel they're not being herald, they really have evidence to back up those suspicions. i like the way you put it, because for someone to forecast what's going to happen, we don't know what that would look like, but we know people would be upset. u.s. house speaker paul ryan is talking, according to reuters right now, and he says any hint to violation in the campaign process -- violence in the campaign process is unacceptable. no candidate for president should say such things, and it's exactly what we're talking about with the riot word used. maybe it was just that specific word. andrea: but if we're going to get specific, donald trump wasn't saying i hope there will be violence. harris: right. andrea: he was saying if i'm denied, there's likely to be violence. that's not inciting violence, that's not encouraging violence. >> they don't know how to deal with the man, let's just face it.

let's talk about process for a second. after ross perot came into the game, the duopoly of the democrats and the republicans tightened up their process, superdelegates, and a much tighter process with the republicans. now you have this very strange situation where newcomer's entering in playing by the rules and getting votes, and now they're scratching their heads and saying how do we block this guy from taking over our party. and that's to your point, stacey. if they do block him, i think the party's going to go through a bankruptcy, reorganization and restructuring. andrea: kirsten, don't you agree that would be the end of the republican party? i think trump supporters are already angry that that i don't feel that the will -- they don't feel that the will of the people is being heard. cirs cirs it's interesting because you hear establishment republicans saying trump's going to be the end of the republican party. and there's definitely a grain of truth to that because he's not an orthodox republican. i think they recognize he's not somebody they're going to be

able to control, who necessarily is towing the line of the issues they care about. the flip side is what would really guarantee the ending of the party would be denying him the nomination, i think. like you said, the trump voters wouldn't turn out, and i think there would be some percentage of republicans who maybe don't even support trump who also wouldn't love the idea of the establishment coming in and fixing the outcome. harris: i wanted to pick up real quickly on what you said, you called donald trump a newcomer to the process, we've head the heard the word outsider, but he's given money to even. that's part of why this is so sticky for the republican party -- >> i meant more of an elected president. harris: but just to kind of, you know, go back on that for just a second, that's part of the problem. they can't anticipate where he'll go, but he can easily anticipate where -- stacey: and to your point, harris, that is more reason to vote for him, pause he knows both -- because he knows both sides of the game. andrea: all right.

one of the republican party spokesmen sparking lots of controversy after saying the party picks its nominee, not the voters. listen. >> primary votes are not considered, it's the delegates' votes. the delegates have to -- cannot vote until they're permanently seeded. the media has created the perception that the voters or will decide the nomination, and that's the conflict here. political parties choose their nominee, not the general public contrary to popular belief. [laughter] andrea: i present to you exhibit a, ladies and gentlemen. but rnc chairman reince priebus says that's not true and that the process is fair. watch. >> i can assure you that if you have the majority of bound delegates, you're going to be the nominee. one person's opinion can't change that. but it is true that delegates that are bound based on the outcomes of these elections choose the nominee. so there's a lot of word playing here, but if a nominee gets the

requisite number of bound delegates, they will be -- the candidate will be the nominee. andrea: in the meantime, should it go to a brokered convention, donald trump may not be ready. "the new york times" is reporting that he's way behind in getting supporters or his supporters, i should say, elected as delegates while senator ted cruz has been laying the groundwork for months. okay. so take the process out of this for a second. the rnc's official -- one of them -- coming out that the party chooses the candidate, not the people. do you hear that sound? it's the founding fathers rolling over in their graves. stacey: to have a party, you have to have people or there is no party. >> well, i mean, i want to defend chairman priebus for one second because he's really trying to thread the needle here. remember, the establishment is funding the rnc. donald trump is not giving a lot of money to the rnc, the supporters aren't giving a lot of money to the rnc. so he's got the rocket fuel on one side of the establishment, and he also has to keep the trump supporters at bay.

and he has to convince the establishment that if donald trump is their nominee, they've got to support him. that includes people like mitt romney, speaker ryan, kevin mccarthy. and so i, it's a prisoner's dilemma for reince priebus. i tell you, it's got to be tough back room conversations with him right now. harris: i'd like to know exactly how they know just how unbound these delegates are. remember, dr. ben carson comes with a number of those unbound delegates. maybe not a huge number, but it starts the trend of others looking, you know, are there other people who have gotten out of the race that may step with a donald trump that just may have a few of those unbound delegates? it's hard to say. >> well, harris, you said it better than anybody, he's been playing this card game for a long period of time. harris: exactly. >> he hoe knows -- he knows their hand. my guess is he's going to galvanize those outsider delegates. they always talk about trump being below, at the 35, 40% number. what they fail to mention is that the outsider vote -- carly

fiorina, ben carson, if you want to include ted cruz -- it's over 60%. if he becomes that outsider galvanizer, he's going to crush them. andrea: kirsten, it goes to the establishment's, i believe, fight for their very power and their existence, and that is on the chopping block with donald trump as the nominee. so you have one rnc official saying that they're the ones picking the nominee, which is the suspicion of all the trump supporters. now it's confirmed. reince priebus trying to walk it back, but i watch what people do, not what they say. and it appears that the establishment is doing things to try and get trump out of the race. kirsten: well, they would like to. there's no question that that's the plan, to try to have a contested convention. they don't like ted cruz either, so it's looking like they're going to be probably stuck with ted cruz. whether they can do it or not, i think they want to do it, and i think that's what people hear, you know? they are upset with the establishment, the establishment thinks that they're stupid and they don't know how to do things, and so we'll just take care of it for you.

whether or not they actually could do it, they would like to do it. that's for sure. and i think that that is just going to add to the anger. andrea: stacey, before we go i want to ask you there's a police that pretty coal posted -- piece that "the politico" posted, and while it's an unfortunate comparison, it showed that didn't turn out very well for the establishment. we know the ending how it's happened before, and it was pretty bad for them. stacey: right. i think trump is right. the if they try to out him and disparage people, they're going to lose the party. they're going to lose the people, which means they will no longer have a party. andrea: you said it best, in order to have a party, you need to have people. in politics and in life, everybody. [laughter] major new development in the hillary clinton e-mail scandal amid reports of a, quote, devastating witness said to have potentially damaging details about hillary's personal e-mail set-up. this as we're also learning clinton may have put classified

info at risk during overseas trips as secretary of state. but do democrats even care about this, or will they care come november? we're going to ask kirsten. plus, the obama administration finally admitting isis is, in fact, committing genocide against christians, but what took them so long? and will this be a game-changer in the battle against the terror group? and right after the show, outnumbered overtime. fire up your handhelds, foxnews.com/outnumbered, click that overtime tab, it's where it gets real. we've got stacey, kirsten, anthony, harris and yours truly. we're taking your calls now. or e-mails. [laughter] ♪ ♪ pet moments are beautiful, unless you have allergies.

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♪ ♪ harris: a potential bombshell in the hillary clinton e-mail scandal, a source telling fox news former state department i.t. specialist brian pagliano is revealing to the fbi details on who had access to the personal system and when the devices were used. pagliano is said to be, quote, a devastating witness. and there's this, the daily caller is reporting clinton used her nonsecure blackberry to send at least three dozen e-mails while traveling in russia,

vietnam and china as secretary of state. at least a couple of those countries like to hack. we'll move on. clinton maintains she never sent or received anything marked classified at the time. and, of course, the big issue is the content, not actually the marking. i'm so glad you're here today -- [laughter] because it seems like this doesn't ever resonate with the democratic voter, right? however, this is an american problem. this is an american issue because our american fbi is looking into her. kirsten: yeah. it has not been something that in the democratic primary has made much of a difference. i do think when she first mishandled it and wasn't completely transparent about what had happened and then sort of had to come out and apologize, we did see her numbers drop a bit. but ultimately, i think people went for sanders because they like what sanders is saying more than about the e-mail issue. so the question is what's going to happen in the general election. will it become more of an issue in the general election. i think she's got her core democrats that are with her no matter what, and they believe what she said, i think.

i think they believe she said, yeah, i made a mistake, and i shouldn't have done it, but -- harris: so fast forward. say it is donald trump who goes up against hillary clinton. he is not bernie sanders. he is not going to slow walk the idea of an e-mail scandal. he's going to hit her with it. so my question is if the fbi comes to her, they sit down, say there's no indictment, but potentially we know from judge napolitano, it could be a situation where they ask her things she doesn't want to say on the record, and she pleads the fifth. what in the world will your party do? kirsten: well, it's obviously a terrible situation if that ends up happening, but we have to wait to see what happens. i think that's one thing i would say. and the other thing is i think that people -- one of the things i noticed in the exit polls is that the people who are trusted the least are the ones who are winning. so, actually, donald trump's trust numbers -- harris: that's an interesting point. kirsten: and it makes me wonder if people have just decided that

politicians are untrustworthy but i want the person who's going to be the best commander in chief and who has the most experience, and that is always hillary clinton in the exit polls anyway on the democratic side. so i do wonder if it even will matter, you know? short of an indictment. harris: right. >> what about the scenario of her actually pleading out, paying a fine like general petraeus did, a $100,000 fine? it's a misdemeanor, she goes right back onto the campaign trail. andrea: we just talked about use of an unsecured blackberry is not a clear violation of protocol -- which ms. clinton would know -- but it's also a felony. so that means a felony for every time that she could or sent a message. that's the law on this issue. kirsten's right about the politics -- >> would it be possible for her to plead it down? because that has happened before. andrea: that's assuming the doj does anything, and i'm not inclined to think this administration that seems people operating above the law is par

for the course. so i think it's the m.o. of a lawless, rogue administration, not just ms. clinton. kirsten, you hit the nail on the head, democrats don't seem to care about this. harris: also i'm reading she had been denied that anyway, so was she using that as oppositional to what she'd been told -- >> i'm just saying her worst case scenario -- stacey: she's the secretary of state. shouldn't she know what's classified or not? andrea: absolutely. she's had -- stacey: thank you very much. that argument should fly out the window. she should be indicted. there are criminals in jail for much less crimes than her. she put the american people at risk. she should be in jail, period, not running for president. >> could be the head of the department of justice in the trump administration. andrea: you know what? i bet an attorney general dash would definitely indict, but i'm not sure attorney general lynch. [laughter] harris: i know you sat down with

general pay yous, so we'll -- petraeus, so we'll talk about that later in the show. a new list is out of the top ten global risks, and do you know who's on it? donald trump. [laughter] the economist intelligence unit, affiliated with the london-based news weekly, "the economist," rated the top threats. at the very top, china, suffering a sharp economic downturn, russia's intervention in ukraine and syria, and currency volatility leading to a corporate debt crisis. that seems obvious. getting 12 out of 25 on the scale is the rising threat of jihadi terrorism destabilizing the global economy, and tied with that risk is gop front-runner donald trump winning the u.s. prime minister city. what do you make -- u.s. presidency. what do you make of that, anthony? >> it's the uncertainty of what he's going to act like as president. let's just thread the needle from jesse ventura to arnold schwarzenegger and now donald

trump. now you've got an outsider that could take the oval office. remember that arnold schwartz network, who's replacing him on the apprentice, endorsed kasich. and if he was sitting on this couch, he would confess to you that he had a hard time running that government and dealing with the legislature because he didn't have the governmental experience. i think that's part of the stuff that the economist is worried about. harris: andrea, when you say global risk to me and you look at the things that are on that list, i'm thinking, okay, us against isis, us against -- what do you make of this? >> i think et goes back to that lay toe comparison of a statesman. you have to have the courage, but it's the temperament question. and we've seen trump blow up not just at debates, but on the campaign trail. and i think that if trump were really wanting the american electorate to see him get serious about national security, he would roll out that national security team like he promised. he said he was going to have one, so where are they? i would suggest he demonstrate that he has the right people around him.

i would actually encourage him to beef up on national security because there are people, myself included, that get nervous when you think that a president of the united states would be that close to a nuclear football and have the codes that close with that temperament. he's got to show the voters he has the temperament and the strategy in national security. i like his top line points on national security. he's not a neo-con. he's not -- harris: well, he's an outsider, yeah. andrea: he has to articulate that in a more compelling way. stacey: he has articulated. he's articulated he's not going to say on national television what his national security strategy is. that's what he said. harris: so, kirsten, not on the list? iran and north korea. but donald trump is on the list. kirsten: well, i mean, you can quibble with the list, i guess, but i think they're on to something. and i also think not just for national security reasons, but the markets like consistency and predictability, right? and he's not very predictable. and so, you know, i do think --

and i would love to hear what you think about that, you know, is it going to spook wall street to not -- for good or ill, you know? >> i think it's a collective opinion and a lot of thought leaders on wall street that some of the early stability this year was related to trump and sanders, okay? so the markets certainly don't want somebody that they don't think can be predictable in terms of what the outcomes are going to be, foreign policy, national security. we need tax and regulatory reform desperately in the country, so we need somebody to do that as well. harris: stacey, i want to give you the last word -- stacey: i just think this is ridiculous, and the democrats want us talking about something as ridiculous as this, and i have nothing else to say. harris: do you feel it's time for donald trump to roll out his plans and show who he's got behind him? stacey: i think he's said he doesn't want to do that, he doesn't want the world to know his plan or his strategy, but he has one. and i believe that he's not a man that is not of his word.

and i know he doesn't like to lose. we know that for sure. we all know that. andrea: i'm for donald trump doing whatever he wants to do, he clearly knows what's working more than most people on tv doing the analysis, but i think as a president, running for president you can't keep things secret. you have to share some strategy. but i'm using his own words. he said he was going to roll out his national security team, and he hasn't yet. and as somebody who is a keen observer of this race, i would be interested just to see who's going to be in the white house. we didn't vet the last president, and i think it could have been helpful. harris: all right, we'll move on. high drama looming at the nation's highest court. just moments from now, senate democrats are making a new push for republicans to take action on president obama's supreme court nominee. republican leaders so far maintaining they will not hold a con confirmation hearing on him. but are we beginning to see cracks in the gop solidarity? we'll talk about it, today close. ♪ ♪ ♪ in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today.

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♪ ♪ andrea: a growing battle that could affect the balance of power in the nation's high e.g. court for decades. in just minutes from now, senate democrats gathering in front of the supreme court to call on republicans to give president obama's supreme court nominee, judge merrick garland, a fair confirmation process. this as judge garland heads to capitol hill to meet with top democrats. republican leaders have maintained that they will not hold a hearing. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and senate judiciary committee chair chuck grassley both spoke to garland by phone. mcconnell says he won't meet with garland, but grassley opened the door to a possible meeting after easter, and we may be seeing other cracks in the gop's solidarity. at least eight republican senators say they are willing to meet with garland, some of them facing tough re-election fights in the swing states. kirsten, what does it mean to you that some republican

senators are saying, we'll talk to him, and the leader is saying i'm not going to meet with him? kirsten: well, there's obviously some disagreement and also they recognize maybe this isn't the best play for the republican party, because this is somebody who is considered pretty moderate. barack obama's a democrat, he gets to nominate somebody who's liberal, and he's probably the best they're going to do in terms of, you know, what do you think hillary clinton's going to do, right? this is probably going to be their best option, least worst option. so maybe they're meeting with him to get cover, but it doesn't seem like a vote's necessarily going to come up. andrea: harris, you mentioned yesterday about that vacuum of power that we see in the republican party. to me, when i saw mcconnell yesterday, he had the opportunity to talk about anything he wanted when he said we're not going to hear him. he talked about a heroin bill. for me, i looked at that and i said is it every man for himself in the republican party? the leader of the party

basically said forget my conference, i'm only worried about myself and my own hide, and i'm going to use this opportunity to talk about kentucky, my home state. i thought what happened to being the leader? harris: it was such an illuminating point, and it's true. this is the majority leader who's saying in the. and you talked about a void in leadership, but you've got the majority leader saying this. you know, it's also very dangerous for republicans right now with this issue because you've got an electorate out there that already feels that the party's not listening to them. and when you look at the polling among americans, they're saying they want to see this process go forward and that republicans should be open to hearing what this guy has to say or who this man is. he's on the hill today, right now, judge garland. so you don't want to look like you're completely tone deaf on two different issues, you know? they're voting for one candidate the establishment may not support, and on the other hand, the president has puppet a rather moderate -- put up a rather moderate -- we all agree

with that, orrin hatch said a consensus candidate. andrea: on the second amendment, folks on the right, it looks like he could be poison to someone who is a firm believer in the second amendment. >> yeah, no question there's going to be a big tension there. let me get this right, you want to broker the convention, and you guys want to choose the president, but you're saying let's let the population and the people choose a supreme court justice? do you see the irony in that? andrea: yes. >> why don't we get them on the show and say, hey, what about that, fellas? it's total hypocrisy. andrea: stacey, what about that? if they won't do that with the republican primary? stacey: if any republican congressman or senator even entertains this nomination, if i were one of their constituents, i would be furious. and that is why we have a system of checks and balances. the president nominates, congress confirms. so let's see what happens. that's all i have to say. andrea: key ten, i do think it

was a shrewd move to put someone up who is seemingly moderate on some issues and call the bluff of republicans knowing they will rightfully block him -- i think that they should -- or the base would riot, as stacey said. i've got to be careful with my rhetoric. [laughter] they'd be very upset with that outcome, but shouldn't the party unify, kirsten, so that they can defeat the left in november, and then they can put up whomever they want? care key yeah. i don't think they're going to do that though. they decided from the outset. i think they made a critical mistake in the beginning which was to say we won't entertain anybody that comes up. whatever you think the constitution says, and we seem to have a disagreement i think right now on this issue that people think they are actually doing what they're supposed to be doing, the way we have understood it is the president nominates, you hold a hearing, you consider whether the potential is qualified or not -- the person is qualified or not, and there is some deference given to the president in terms of his pick. the fact that from the outset

they said it doesn't really matter, you know, we're not going to consider it, i think it just makes them look like they don't want to even be fair. andrea: well, we will see what happens, because this is going to be a very fierce fight. the obama administration finally announcing that isis is committing genocide against christians and other minorities. but after so much slaughter, what took them so long, and will we see some action to back it up? ♪ ♪

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and by actions in what it says, what it believes and what it does. harris: secretary of state john kerry finally labeling the islamic state savages' attacks on christians and other ethnic minorities in iraq and syria as, in fact, genocide. it comes after the house passed that unanimous resolution on monday saying the very same thing. lawmakers and advocacy groups have criticized the state department for its delay, but officials say the designation does not obligate the united states to take any additional actions against isis. in fact, that's kind of what secretary kerry was saying today that, yeah, we'll label it, and they have gone further than anybody thought that they would. >> well, listen, it was a process we could argue with, but the truth of the matter is the killing is happening. we are still disrupting terrorist training camps in afghanistan, so just -- isis is now part of syria. they're at the lower tip of afghanistan. and this is a very, very serious problem for the next american president. we should be very thankful for

john campbell. general campbell secured the deal to allow those bases to stay open, harris, usually important to the next american president whoever he or she may be. we need that support in that area to tamp down the violence here at home. harris: yeah. you have got to keep your footprint there -- >> and we almost didn't have it. we're going down to 550 troops from 8800. that's the bare minimum -- 5500. harris: kirsten, you saw a bipartisan, unanimous resolution on this, and we've been reading the meaning of genocide and how it connects with what isis has been doing; burning bibles this week and then making that video go viral. you know they've got that media relations arm of savages. kirsten: yeah. harris: when you lack at this -- look at this, why did it sake the state department so long to label this? kirsten: that's a question i can't answer. it's mystifying to people. and this is actually a result, i think, of a lot of publish pressure, frankly. there was a lot of pressure on them to finally do this.

they had suggested a while back that they were going to say that the yazidis were, you know, victims of genocide, but they were not going to include christians, and the christian community really rallied and started putting a lot of pressure on them. i think they, ultimately, came around to it. i will say, to be fair, because i've followed this very closely, i think kerry has all along recognized it's a genocide. the question is, who hasn't? someone has been keeping him from saying that. harris: and i know you wrote a column in "usa today" about this specifically saying that the white house had taken so long. you're right, it's a mystery. but going forward, it still doesn't obligate us to fix the problem. kirsten: it does have some pretty serious obligations in terms of how you treat people who are fleeing the violence, in terms of giving them preference for immigrating and things like that. it's actually a very important designation -- andrea: but it does mean both covert and outward military, they can be used.

it's medias sets of funding to -- immediate assets of funding. i think to your point, kirsten, we've seen the hesitation in the white house because then they would are to acknowledge they called this enemy jv after they dismissed the enemy altogether, and they don't want to acknowledge that they made a big mistake. harris: well, and the whole thing that missing is the fact we still are not clear on what that strategy is. just a few months ago the president said he didn't have a complete strategy. he's never come back. he's given us some notes on what he's doing, but it still hasn't taken these guys out. stacey: well, first of all, kerry -- it's daish, not dash. [laughter] and i've spoken with guys who have been on the ground in syria and iraq on the front line. and their hands are tied both intelligence operatives and military operatives. the status quo is do as little as possible without doing nothing. which is absurd.

what we need to be doing is 100% supporting the kurds and closinp with turkey and syria so that isis can no longer get support. harris: yeah, stop the supply lines. andrea: i just want to make sure we do note this does actually allocate assets. this is the most we're going to see allocating funding and resources -- harris: and having them hold in into an actual plan is important. but i want to double back on something you said. just because we say it's special operations does not mean we don't have boots on the ground. we have those guys there. so when those directives put them in danger, we need to know about it. all right, we'll move on. we'll cover this as it adopts today. working parents know how tough it is to balance job and home life, but now a major league baseball player is retiring after the team asked him to stop taking his son to the clubhouse every day. is there a time and place for family time, or is the team out

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stacey: well, baseball's supposed to be a family sport, right? fun.

well, according to fox sports, chicago white sox first baseman adam laroche decided to retire after the team told him his 14-year-old son spends too much time in the team's clubhouse. really? there's apparently a deal in place where the kid could be there and help out, but now the team's executive vice president, defending his decision, saying, quote: tell me where in america you can bring your child to work every day. all i'm asking you to do with regard to bringing your kid to work is dial it back. okay. it's not rocket science, it's not nasa, it's baseball. [laughter] okay? it's a family sport. i don't understand it. i'm -- i go to you, harris. you have children. [laughter] harris: oh, no. [laughter] stacey: and a very good husband. harris: thank you. >> he's getting a shoutout. harris: i know. stacey: i think this man was being a good dad, bringing him son, and maybe his son was

helping him do better, you know, giving him incentive. harris: you know, these things are complicated, because then you got to open it up to everybody's ability to bring their children to the ballpark too. and there's some questions who will question, well, is anybody watching his son while this is going on? at the end of the day, i mean, we all have been put in that position as parents one time or another -- and you're nodding, anthony -- where, you know, i've brought my kids in here. you've seen my little girls. they're usually, you know, asleep. the little one falls asleep, we try not to take that personally. i can certainly see both sides. stacey: what do you think, anthony? >> we have a company with 75 people, we want it to be pro-family, but i think there's always that intersection between making sure the place is super professional buttal integrating the family. -- also integrating the family. i sort of want to side with the vice president of operations by saying just dial it back a little, i think was the message, not to remove him from the clubhouse completely. to me, i think there is that bubble when you're trying to

frame out that picture. you've got to get that bubble right in between those two lines. it's okay to be in the clubhouse, but perhaps not every day. i think that's the balance they're trying to strike. andrea: kirsten, i know folks who bring their pets to work. kirsten: i know. it's great to be pro-family, but i don't know about bringing your child every single day. that's the thing. if it's every now and then, that's great, and i don't think it's a problem, but i think it's reasonable to say it's not, shouldn't be a daily occurrence, to me. i don't think this seems anti-family. harris: i have a baseball question. >> no question about that. harris: because i don't know. i have a baseball question. is there a different level of civility and professionalism? like, in the dugout, i imagine the guys are, you know, maybe some salty language. but the clubhouse to me seems like an extension of the corporate office, correct? so it wouldn't be that it's an inappropriate place for the child, correct? >> well, one of the best things that happened to me because i'm

basically 5 years old in a 52-year-old body -- harris: so you're a normal guy. [laughter] >> i own a small piece of the new york mets, so i get to interact, and there's a lot of camaraderie, there's a lot of family experience and, yes, there's a lot of kids. barry bonds used to have his son as a bat boy for the san francisco giants. so they are trying to integrate it and make it good for the kid and good for the player, but i do think there's a line, and you don't want to go over -- andrea: they would have to temper their rhetoric at some point, right? they can't exactly speak freely if there's a young kid. >> that's an issue. that sort of breaks the bonds of the teamwork -- stacey: and also harris' point where other teammates want to bring their -- andrea: there's a lot of good lessons in baseball though. >> i love baseball. andrea: can't be a totally bad thing. >> season starts in three weeks. andrea: friday night is a great night, and just when you didn't think it was possible, it's about to get better.

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still friday eve, but it's friday tomorrow. as if that isn't exciting enough, there's something else to look guard to. our #oneluckyguy is cohosting a show set to debut tomorrow night on the fox business network, "wall street week." it will air every friday, 8 p.m. eastern. so what should we expect? and before i even say that, i want to start, because you mentioned general petraeus. he's one of -- >> first guest, yep. general petraeus and i met through the military charities. i get the opportunity to travel to iraq and afghanistan, and so we've become very close friends x so he a agreed to do the inaugural show. i think you're going to learn a lot about apple encryption, the e-mail situation with hillary clinton, but also where the national security footprint should be in a world where we have a depression in oil prices. it's a very interesting story, but it threads into a 5-year leg -- 35-year legacy for the show wall street week. on channel 13 in new york and

pbs around the country, the longest-running host in television history. 35 years on pbs. he passed away in 2005. we brought the show back in his honor and for his legacy, and we're trying to bring people on to the show that we can learn about how they tick as opposed to just looking at the ticker. and so this'll be a show about -- i tell people it's sort of like hbo "real sports," i want to learn about the entrepreneur, the general, tony robbins is coming on next week, and we'll learn more about most invitational speaking, and how do we help people when they're in a rut or when they've had failures. harris: i love it. andrea: i love that concept, anthony, because it's so rare that we actually get to get in the mind of these public figures that are so fascinating rather than just listening -- >> well, i hope you'll watch. and you'll give us some constructive criticism. harris: excellent. what are you going to eat or do before you get ready? >> i have to confess, i don't eat before shows.

i just drink lots of coffee. [laughter] harris: stacey, great to have you back, kirsten, good to see you too. foxnews.com/outnumbered, click on the overtime tab, jump on through your facebook or twitter. "happening now" now.