♪ >> we're back in on a hour. "outnumbered" started now. sandra: fox news aletter. deadly attack targeting christians this easter weekend this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, andrea tanteros, host of "kennedy" on fox business, kennedy. syndicated radio talk show host, fox news contributor, meghan mccain. joining us on the catch for the first -- couch for the first time, "mediabuzz" host howard kurtz is here. >> hope to be career break for me. sandra: a lot of news today. let's get right to it. at least 70 people killed in the attack in pakistan. it happened at a park in lahore

where families were celebrating easter. many victims were women and children. a faction of the taliban publicly supported isis claiming responsibility. now funerals are being held as those left behind mourn the loved ones they lost. conor powell is live in jerusalem. conor? reporter: andrea, pakistan is in mourning today, beginning a three-day period remembering those killed on sunday. the death count right now at 70, with more than 300 people injured this was the deadliest attack in more than about a year or so in pakistan. now, the group that claimed responsibility was a taliban faction that recently broke away from the taliban and pledged their allegiance to isis. they have a specifically targeted christians in the past this is at least the fifth attack they have launched in about last year-and-a-half or so. they said they were targeting christians. now many of the dead on sunday were in fact christian but

overwhelmingly those injured and killed at this amusement park were in fact muslims. many children, many families, many women. this was an area that was, simply an amusement park you saw on a sunday afternoon packed full of families and children. people having a good time. many celebrating easter. but also a lot were just there simply to get outside on a weekend. pakistani authorities have cracked down on militants in recent months since that attack in peshawar that killed more than 100 or so a year-and-a-half ago but today's or sunday's attack really proving once again militants can strike whenever, wherever they want in pakistan. part of the problem pakistan faces going forward is that the pakistani military continues this policy of sort of differentiating between good taliban and bad taliban. they see the good taliban as those that launched attacks in neighboring afghanistan and bad taliban is those that launch

attacks in pakistan. part of the problem though, sandra is once you support one group of militants, those militants begin to bleed over into other groups and you have a situation where there really is this swamp that analysts call it of a militant insurgency that plagues pakistan and neighboring afghanistan. this is something pakistan refuses to come to gripe with. they continue to have shaded policy between good and bad militants that is the results, andrea. sandra: conor thank you. according to watchdog group open doors usa over 7100 christians killed in 2015 for faith-related reasons and showing no signs of stopping. on march 4th, gunmen storm ad retirement home run by catholic nuns in yemen killing 16. in february attacks targeting christian farmers in nigeria reportedly left 300 dead.

in december isis killed 18 people in three separate attacks targeting christian-owned restaurants in syria. so is the obama administration doing enough to protect them? that is a question many are asking today, howard. >> certainly doesn't feel like there is a sense of global leadership now. even in an age terror attacks have become almost daily fixture in the headlines, this particular attack in pakistan, the indiscriminate savagery targeting amusement park, many children and targeting christians but killing mostly muslims on easter sunday it shocks the conscience. united states can not prevent any attack in pakistan, nigeria, afghanistan, all these splinter groups. it feels at time the world is out of control. of course the leadership responsibility falls to the u.s. sandra: i spoke with general keane, megan on friday evening. he said the world is starving

for american leadership and you feel that today as we mourn those lost. >> i read this with special kind of heart break with christians being attack. i'm first person to say with all the list christians targeting around the world, doesn't get as much news as paris attacks, brussels attacks, why, i don't really know. i will say there is distinct vacuum since we pulled out of iraq. everything is growing. isis is growing. al qaeda is growing. we have a president choosing to tango in the dark literally after an attack and insped of sowing support globally. not only united states is losing but globally we're in such need of a strong leader to express the america that we all believe n i think it just shows the rise of trump. many things as much as i don't like him he is showing strength and showing america has a role to play. he believes in american exceptionalism. i don't believe our president does. sandra: we heard that from you, many times, andrea, filling the

void. 14 of confirmed 70 dead are confirmed christians. what do you make of the administration's response to this. andrea: they don't want to address issues when it comes to the holy war and that is exactly how it is. i would love to ask you, howie, why don't we see more coverage from the american media? as megan points out all weekend long donald trump or cruz ted cruz. not about the holy war. there is hesitancy to address it. they say isis is not islamic. why not? is there appetite? we see christians moving to donald trump shockingly someone they feel will defend them. sandra you bring this up all the time. they want someone who just doesn't hate them but defend them. christians are starving for leadership too. why don't we see the american media hone in on it more? >> i think to some extent some attacks in faraway places get overshadowed if americans are not among the victims. the campaign has sucked up a lot

of media oxygen. this is war against christians in a lot of these countries and we have responsibility to do more. sandra: the poem spoke out about this in -- pope spoke out in st. fight ear oer's square, saying pakistan should -- st. peter's square, that pakistan -- >> when those nuns were killed at the nursings home, that rips to the very heart of the vatican and the faith and it is holiest day of the year. just goes to show you it is not a holy war. if, you believe in something, if you have faith, if you're guided by some overwhelming principle you would think that there would be, i don't know, any level of mutual respect because obviously there is no armament. there are no attacks during ramadan. you said it is indiscriminate. it is not indiscriminate. they knew exactly what they were

doing. >> indiscriminate in terms of women and children. christians are the tar get, no question about it. >> so profoundly offensive. comes in a country the reason there are these attacks because you have a leader who is not even moderate but is sighing maybe we shouldn't have violence against women in certain provinces? maybe we should acknowledge other religions and their celebrations? but this form of fascist missile tant islam -- militant islam is mind-boggling. sandra: pakistan continues to mourn ones lost. andrea: new raids in the brussels after last week's terror attacks. three people detained. police under judge's order release ad man that the belgium media reported may have been the mysterious man in white seen in the surveillance image at the brussels airport. that suspect still on the run. meanwhile the death toll in the attacks rising to 35. state department confirming four americans were killed, including justin and stephanie shults, a

couple from tennessee. all this as the white house faces new fallout over president obama's decision not to cut short his trip to cuba and argentina despite the attacks. secretary of state john kerry defending that call. >> president of the united states's scheduled is not set by terrorists. the president of the united states has major diplomatic responsibilities. he has to engage with other countries. that was an important part of trying to build a relationship and achieve some of our goals with respect to human rates, with respect to transformation in syria, in cuba and elsewhere. and i think the president, you know, life doesn't stop because one terrible incident takes place in one place. andrea: life doesn't stop, but life was doing the wave and life was doing the tango and so it seems to me, howie, if you have secretary of state john kerry out explaining on the sunday shows they know they did something wrong. they feel the need to explain.

>> you know i'm not in the camp that says president obama should have cut short the cuba trip and come rushing back home. there is a level you don't want to let terrorists dictate the schedule of the united states. the optics of use doing tango in argentina and awful and belgium attacks dominating the news. where i thought the biggest misstep the first time president spoke publicly. he had a prepared speech to give to cuban audience, he devoted as you know, 51 seconds to attacks, and pivoted to prepared remarks. that is like after the paris attacks, his own admission and white house's own admission he didn't seem to understand how people, the emotional need for presidential leadership at a time when nato ally had been attacked and so many people had been killed. andrea: you're nodding, meghan. >> i disagree with you. he shouldn't be running home if fear. at sam point you're hanging out

with communist dictator and doing the wave and spend 51 seconds in the stands, that is so far removed what we expect from our leader. i'm scared and ped tried with another terrorist attack in the united states and we have a leader who doesn't care and doesn't mind dancing with sexy woman in argentina. to say he is not ronald reagan is understatement. it makes my brain explode. it is why donald trump winning. exact example why donald trump is winning because we want our fears and concerns globally and nationally validated. he just doesn't seem to care. >> how many times does he have to apologize? how many times when he comes out and makes one of these missteps. i agree with you, i don't think it is necessary for a leader to put his tail between his legs and run home every time one of these things happens. if you are a serious person you can create a serious moment wherever you are. and you can meet with your advisors and you can come out and you can say something substantial that shows that you have compassion for allies and

you know this whole thing that life must go on, well it doesn't for the people who died. >> yeah. >> incredibly insensitive for victims families who are mourning who lost their lives. it really doesn't go on for them. andrea: the message john kerry was espousing all weekends, leaders in foreign capitals were embarrassed at rhetoric coming out of the united states of america in the back and forth on republican side between ted cruz and donald trump. sandra: spend time addressing that alone, andrea. you're communications guy. how is it that the administration takes 51 seconds at a baseball game to respond to terrorist attacks in brussels. but then we immediately in the aftermath we hear from john kerry how embarrassed he is about republican. >> with his sunglasses and dad jeans. >> mom jeans. >> holding his microphone like this with sunglasses on in the stands. i can't tell you how offensive i found it. has he completely checked out or they don't care but it is

humiliating as an american to have a president who doesn't care. andrea: howie, over the weekend we saw protests in belgium. people seem fed up with multiculturalism. we saw this in germany after attacks on new year's eve. we hear law enforcement was pressured to report a lost instances of muslim crime and rape in these countries. but the media in europe spun it a little differently. they decided to say, oh, these are belgian right-wingers. why doesn't the press in europe even after an attack, even after rapes we've seen, even after refugees issues, why don't we see countries and media not covering problems that are so obvious? >> probably a case of oversensitivity not wanting to tar entire muslim community with brush of terrorism. if you say, look, there are a lot of muslims that live in places like brussels that are supportive of or sympathetic to radical jihadism, not unlike the american media sometimes being a little too careful.

to circle back to john kerry, for a second, he was acting as a democrat, not a diplomat. he was taking shot at donald trump, didn't name him, echoed gop platform. hillary clinton said that world leaders are embarrassed about the gop and donald trump. andrea: a little political. the investigation into the hillary clinton email server could be coming to an end. new report detailing next phase of the fbi probe and what it could mean for clinton on the campaign trail. secretary of state john kerry slamming republican candidates saying rhetoric in wake of brussels terror attack is hurting america's image abroad. is it or is political correctness putting us in danger? catch more on the webb. foxnews.com/outnumbered. click on the o.t. tab. you watch howie kurtz on sunday. you get to ask him questions on why the media does all the

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with clinton's long-time aides. those interviews will help prosecutors and investigators whether they knew about the government secrets were coming over a non-secured personal server when she was secretary of state. the presidential candidate could be interviewed and no word when that will take place. howie, what do you think about this? is this formality bringing in long-term aides or are they really on to something? >> you couldn't conduct an investigation without talking to people around hillary clinton so it would be pretty evident it was a whitewash. you have to do it. not a formality. i don't necessarily think it will lead to criminal charges. this self-inflicted ailment is like fever hillary clinton can not shake. there are times when it is low-grade and fades from the news and at times she has coughing fits when new material comes out. to some extent politically she has taken the hit she will take-n-baked into the campaign cake.

honesty and trustworthy numbers the in polls in part relate to the email scandal. she has to hope nothing worse comes out. i don't think it is formality at all. >> she is emphatic there is not going to be charges, andrea, but what i want to know is this a slow eregs or is that enough to hurt her chances or does there have to be indictment for her to lose the nomination at this point? andrea: i think as far as bringing in the aides i think this is a big deal. we know from the foia emails that cheryl mills and huma abedin were colluding to suppress evidence. fbi works as everybody knows. they collect all the data. they bring in the suspects, right? then they ask them these questions. if huma or if cheryl mills tries to lie to the fib by, that is a felony, 10 years immediately. that is how they always get everybody. 100% conviction rate. how they got martha stewart. all you have to do is lie or you have to cover up. we know they acted together to collude that evidence. i think there is strong chance either of these two women will go to prison.

hillary clinton i don't believe they will indict her. i think entire administration is in on it. i think she should go to jail. i do not believe they will indict. i believe the fbi will recommend charges. sandra: there are two outcomes, right? she knowingly or negligently exchanged classified information, right? andrea: right. sandra: howie, to your point a lot of people assume it is baked into hillary clinton and impacting her campaign, but bernie sanders hasn't opened the door. at what point in the investigation does he decide to use it against her? >> i think bernie sanders who won several states over the weekend has decided he doesn't have to go there because it constantly in the news. there is a federal investigation. media are always reporting on it. his brand, i will not get personal with secretary clinton as he calls her and talk about wall street and -- >> he is above it all. sandra: how is it not person that know? this is about someone abusing power. this is corruption to its core. supposedly a idealist what he is fighting against.

i don't think it makes sense for him -- it is not like, he is staying away from talking about bill clinton's mistresses. he is talking about something that speaks to the core of her ethics and character. >> i mean for many reasons i think bernie sanders is dangerous man but the thing that i, i do, i think he is very da that debate when he said nobody cares about your emails, yeah, a significant portion of the population does. that is where my conspiracy theory hat comes in. are you in cahoots with all of this? why do you think this is not big deal to democrats? she committed a felony. i say this every time on the show, hench woman huma i can't wait to find out what is in her e-mails. i want to her face legal action because she has gotten away with some things for so long. that is why 65% of the american people think she is liar. >> good point about that, i want to ask you. first time in the "l.a. times" report we've heard some reporting on deleted emails.

i haven't read about that they made specific mention that the fbi is going over those deleted emails. sandra: to your point, howie, you have to ask yourself, how much worse could this get? what could be revealed in these emails that could make it worse for hillary clinton, if there is no indictment? obviously if there is indictment that changes everything but is there anything that could happen between now and actual nomination process? >> well, depends on what leaks out because these things continued to be very tightly-held. if there is decision not to have critcharges, they don't put out a report saying here is what we're thinking. they indict or don't. we'll see. sanders decided to keep his hands off it. maybe it was misstep but he doesn't even acknowledge the story. andrea: are they covering the democratic primary as if it is real thing. it is a joke. this is kabuki theater. this is not a primary. it is coronation. she has the delegates. media covers like it is a real race.

>> bernie says it is a real race. >> no matter how many little birds fly on podium. andrea: bernie won three more states. my god, could he win? no! hillary's to win. >> superdelegates they can shift all of a sudden. sandra: news and revelation how many socialists there are in the country, right? >> how many young people he is brainwashing into actually thinking social system something that can and should fifth in merck. that is why he is dangerous man. -- should exist. >> president biden will do everything he can to clean up corruption in washington. [laughter]. what keeps world leaders up at night? terrorism, poverty? according to secretary of state john kerry they say they're shocked by the rhetoric coming from america's gop presidential candidates. really, mr. secretary? plus democrats feeling the burn. bernie sanders sweeping three states over the weekend. does he have a new path to victory and should hillary be

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♪ sandra: just days after islamic terrorists unleashed another deadly attack in europe but secretary of state john kerry says it is republican candidates and their rhetoric that are alarming other world leaders and hurting america's image abroad. watch. >> they can not believe it. i think it is fair to say that, that they're shocked. they don't know where it's taking the united states of america. it upsets people's sense of equalibrium about our steadiness, about our reliability and, to some degree, i must say to you, some of the questions the way they are posed to me, it is clear to me what is happening is an embarassment to our country. sandra: donald trump firing back, saying kerry and president obama's policies are the real problem. >> well i'm shocked by him and

i'm shocked that he would sign a deal like the iran deal which is one of the worst and dumbest deals i've ever seen negotiated, horrible, horrible, embarassment deal. i'm shocked by his policy of open door. i'm shocked by just about everything that he has done and everything that president obama has done, leading this country down. we're being taken down. sandra: senator ted cruz appeared to agree saying the obama administration's weak response to the terror threat is putting us in danger. >> for seven years president obama and hillary clinton and this administration have been so bound up by political correctness they have refused to acknowledge what it is we're fighting. they have refused to even name it after everyone of these attacks the president does a national tv conference where he refuses to say the words, radical islamic terrorism. instead he lectures americans on islamophobia. enough is enough. we need a commander-in-chief who will keep this country safe.

sandra: howie, is it fair for the presidential candidates to be criticizing the obama administration's response here? >> sure. that is why we have political campaigns so people can make a choice. i'm also been puzzled for a long time why the president and the administration have been allergy to the term islamic jihaddism or islamic terrorism. if they were to start using that term doesn't mean we would suddenly win war against terror. there is progress on the battlefield with a top isis official killed. as far as kerry, secretary of state is supposed to be non-partisan and not expected to listen to ted cruz and donald trump. sandra: that is the rhetoric keeping them up, megan? >> how about stop apologizing to america oversees. the apologists in this administration something i've never ben before and i can't handle. john kerry, a lot of us are embarrassed by eight years and.

a lot of us have countdown clocks to we get somebody in place who will say islamic extremism on television. >> donald trump and ted cruz and other republicans are bashing administration day after day, i don't think it is out of bounds for secretary of state to push back and say, look a lot of republicans are embarrassed -- >> look for him to talk about, i have no problem infighting united states us among each other what we like about campaigns or -- >> play the world leaders card. >> play the world leaders card i can't handle it. like when canadian criticizes america. i can do it, we can do it but they don't. shortsighted and i think secretary of state has much greater responsibility although we do have republicans running for president are insane. they're out of their minds. it is not mutually exclusive. you can have a weak, poorly strategized administration that has spent last years apologizing for america, i'm so sorry for

being so beautiful but at same time, you can have other people who want the job who may possibly be out of their minds. >> that is fair as well. sandra: you have to wonder, at what point, andrea, political correctness engaged in country when it becomes serious threat to us, for example, not naming our enemy. andrea: i don't buy in other capital cities and foreign countries they're sitting around ruminating losing sleep over donald trump and ted cruz. you mentioned how political it is for john kerry, secretary of state. what is most shocking to people overseas, not just here, this secretary of state kerry would thank the iranians for humiliating our u.s. sailors or say that climate change is the greatest issue facing the world. those are things i'm personally embarrassed for. not to mention the fact he has a yacht named the scare a marsh. why would they take anything john kerry says in the first place. >> nothing gets noticed.

you say, that they are out of their depth, out of their minds? >> malignant narcissism from the prescription pad of dr. kennedy, thank you very much. >> what else is out of their mind, bernie sanders may have the wind at his back after making a clean sweep over the weekend. vermont senator winning all three democratic caucuses in washington state, alaska, and hawaii, winning each by a landslide. he was won five out of the last six contests losing my home state of arizona and cutting hillary clinton's lead of pledged delegates by a third. look at this new poll. clinton's once commanding lead in california shrinking down to single digits. before that primary it moves to the liberal states, favorable political terrain for sanders and his progressive message. no wonder he says, the tide has turned into his favor. giving him so-called path to victory. >> clearly we have momentum. we'll have more pledged

delegates than secretary clinton. the superdelegates will have to make a very difficult decision. that is if a candidates wins in a state by 40 or 50 points who are you going to give your vote to? and second of all, which candidate is better positioned to defeat trump or any of the other republican candidates. i think a lot of the superdelegates will conclude that it is bernie sanders. >> howie, can he win california? >> i don't know if he can win california but it is very, very unlikely bernie sanders wins nomination. would have to win 6% of the remaining delegates. look, if i was 74-year-old bernie sanders self-proclaimed socialist senator around nobody paid attention to i got this far and bragging and exude confidence. he wins in state much more white and diverse states. in much more diverse states hillary clintonners him. >> what do you think, kennedy. >> bernie sanders has no reason to get out of the race.

he knows he won't be president but he knows he is changing his party possibly for long term getting into head of college age socialists. that message is resonating for whatever reason. as long as he does that, he will keep going, polls are further, and further to the left. it is wildly entertaining. she will have to worry about somehow, having an answer for donald trump and his attacks that are looming and bernie sanders who is also not going away. >> question i have too, the dnc convention, andrea, i want to go to you with this is bernie sanders going to introduce her? how will they reconcile this, when he loses and he will? andrea: that is good question. what is bernie sanders getting for being fake opponent. this is not real. it is not real. she has this locked up. he will get something at the convention or position in her administration if she wins. again she is not going to get indicted. the administration will cover for her.

i believe the fbi will recommend charges. they will leak them when loretta lynch doesn't indict. and media is going to yawn. howard kurtz, the media will not care about the scandal. that is what they're banking on? >> "the new york times" broke the email scandal story originally. what else has bernie has to do? he is being played by larry david on "snl." this is the greatest ride of his life. he pulled hillary clinton to the left on issue after issue, from his point of view, didn't know he would be doing this well, he is having impact. >> she is not natural politician. it will be hard for her to boomer range back from the left. sandra: he changed the election and changed hillary clinton. by the way when you talk about weakness with hispanics and african-american voters you haven't seen him change a whole lot to try to attract those voters. i haven't seen a whole lot of change in his strategy. i don't know what the strategy is there. >> in south carolina he went to black churches and tried to

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crimes. the idea is based on a program out of richmond, california, that pays criminals up to $1,000 a month if they meet with mentors and follow the law. supporters say the program has richmond cut its crime rate but according to "the washington post" to keep the trust of participants, many mentors in the program do not inform police about what they know about crimes. including homicides. okay, we're going to go to the economics expert. they're paying people not to commit crimes up to $1000 a month. sandra, a lot of these cities are borderline bankrupt, don't have the money to do this. the most important thing, does it work? sandra: maximum paid out to participant is $9,000. so there is a cap. the program handed out $70,000 a year since it started back in 2010. the obvious response is outrage they would be using taxpayer funds in this way but analysis looked at, if these people were to go back into prison, that the money that would be coming out

of the taxpayer pocket would be even more. there has been no independent analysis done on this. that is what the d.c. mayor is pointing out objecting to this d.c. mayor we could resources much better ways like jobs programs. there are two solid sides to this story. andrea: what is other side of this story? >> the other side it incentive to start committing crimes. once you start to commit crimes you can sit back to get whole bunch of free money. that is great. that is fantastic. that is the not function of government. if you want a serious conversation about criminal justice reform i think that is wholly appropriate and also they haven't shown correlation here. it is not necessarily correlated to the fact they're paying people. sandra: richmond touting their program. nobody who actually, outside group who looked at this to say it is actually working. >> incredibly necessary especially for big cities who are so hard-hit by crime like baltimore. a lot of these places have gone bankrupt. you have to look at the structural influences there but

the most important thing, do not incentivize people to commit crimes. what about good people taking care of their kids? >> how cynical to be, these people will commit crimes anyway and they will go to jail and commit crimes. sandra: because the odds do show that they do. >> i know but idea we'll paying for not committing bad behavior is very slippery slope morally and like you said with the role of government. i have a big problem with all of this. andrea: howard, where do funds come from? in city like baltimore they're broke. they don't have money. what about people aren't committing any crimes? what about you and i? where are our benjamins for not committing crime. >> can you imagine the lawsuit, saying it is not fair to give these people crime and i'm a law-abiding citizen trying to put food on the table. i thought this was from the onion. worst excesses lbj great society, there were programs to help people get on their feet, not bribe them not to commit crimes. i'm sympathetic to idea of child

care or other programs to help people work but give them a bunch of money -- sandra: do you agree there is a problem they're trying to address? that they're having a very difficult time addressing? somebody is looking for solution whether the right one or not? >> paying more mentors with the money and have child care and get better jobs or, anything that is just -- sandra: i can hear outrage from kennedy on that as well. >> why does everything have to be government program? why all of sudden do we pay people for anything? that is not role of government. it has to then too big. that bankrupted cities. >> the fact they're choosing to pay people or use money to lessen the problem. >> not do that and give people economic mobility and allow people to spend money they rightfully earn in the first place instead of their tax dollars being sucked into ridiculous programs that only bankrupt cities already hurting? sandra: no argument -- see what happens when you take the other side of something, show the other side? andrea: call it devil's advocate

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sandra: more "outnumbered" for you in just a moment. let's get to jon scott with what is coming up in second hour of "happening now." hey, jon. >> hey, sandra. john kasich is holding a rally in wisconsin hoping to gain traction in the next big contest for the campaign. wisconsin vote as week from today for, before the republican convince and is hoping that a contested convention gives him a shot at the nomination. hillary clinton fund-raising today in chicago before she too heads to wisconsin for events tonight. this after bernie sanders won blowout victories in hawaii, alaska and washington over the weekend. we'll take a closer look at the email investigation and what it could mean to the clinton campaign. plus seven iranians indicted in hacking attacks on u.s. banks and infrastructure. the legal ce and the possibility of bringing the perpetrators to justice, ahead, "happening now." sandra: john, thank you.

>> thanks. >> this is interesting, a critique of media from president obama. "the washington post" reporting how he claims that the media has become fragmented and pole polarized segments of the nation. sharing news on social media and smartphones can fuel partisanship while the facts sometimes get ignored. the post says, in obama's view although technology made wider variety of information more readily available, new consumers are seeking out only what they agree with already, thereby reinforcing partisan ideology. what is the national place to land? we should have one gust funded news outlet and new darned technologically packed smartphones. >> the president has been saying this a for a while. smartphones are superficial. cacophony on twitter. barack obama has half a point.

media is polarized and people seek out information and sites agree with them. comes close to lament that conservative media, sometimes he mentions fox news, sometimes not are preventing me from getting things done, distorting my program. he has the biggest megaphone in the world and can override any of that but he has to have a message to deliver. >> a little hypocritical though, here was a guy who was elected, called himself the cool early adaptter president because he utilized -- >> no president in modern times benefited more from liberal media bias. give me a break. second day you're in office eight years, finally even liberals are turning to take a second look at you. blaming media. oldest trick in the book. never works. it is stupid. he will have to live with his legacy which is ultimately huge failure. >> i don't think it is fox news that worries him. think bernie sanders. megan is right, the fact that the left is leaving in droves and realizing he has an empty

message. why doesn't he talk about his own polarization? sandra: because he is the great unifier. he would bring the country together. in his mind he has done a really good job of it. i agree with him. people seek out, howie, what they agree on. only look for articles that only validate a point already in their head. i even find it with tv i find that people hear what they want to hear a lot. >> oh, so selective. you say, x, y, z, somebody picks up one phrase and syllable and you get hammered on it. barack obama has not been a stranger to using these new technologies. he has gone on youtube with the woman who took the fruit loops bathtub. podcast in people's garages and jerry seinfeld's car. he embraced it. he seems to be annoyed lots of other people with different views are also seizing that. >> shiny and new going someplace else. he can't handle it. he is egomaniac. and two other candidates trump and bernie sanders getting enthusiasm and obama mania is

over and he can't handle it and i love it. sandra: is there a way to consume media in way fully informs us and doesn't have just sticking to our original thoughts and opinions? >> sure, lots of people do. sandra: give us a lesson. how do you do it? >> you read multiple sources. look at newspaper occasionally. go more than just websites that favor your point of view. you watch lots of different cable shows. we have never had more information available at our fingerprints. it is a great thing. >> net benefit to society that we've got so much access to information at our fingertips? >> absolutely but there are a lot of crazy people on twitter. >> twitter, some of the other outlets really changed media, not just the way we consume it but -- >> sure. you don't need a printing press or own a television station. everybody has a microphone. there is a lot of unsubstantiated garbage you have to as consumer have to wade

through. >> what i love about social media and twitter, renegade journalism happens. >> renegade indeed. don't worry your pretty little head. so much to consume. we'll be right back. all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? give up my 2 aleve for 6 tylenol? no thanks. for me... it's aleve.

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