thanks for joining tonight, everybody. i'm martha maccallum in tonight for megyn. i will see you tomorrow morning with bill hemmer at 9:00 eastern. have a good night, everybody. tonight, the countdown to the wisconsin republican primary is on. >> i think the people of wisconsin, the people across the country, have had enough. >> senator cruz is here tonight with reaction and then newt gingrich will be here to break down the 2016 race. and hillary clinton could be in big trouble after losing three races over the weekend to bernie sanders. >> don't let anybody tell you we can't win the nomination or win the general election. we're going to do both of those things! >> tucker carlson, herman cane, monica crowley have reaction. believe it or not, liberal host bill maher slams politically correct democrats. >> i think the democrats risk

losing this election if they cannot put together the words islamic extremism. >> "hannity" starts right here right now. and welcome to "hannity." tonight we're just eight days away from the very important wisconsin primary where 42 delegates are up for grabs on the republican side. here is where the gop delegate count currently stands. donald trump leading with 739. ted cruz in second with 465. governor kasich in third with 143 delegates. now in order to win the nomination and avoid a contested convention this summer in cleveland, one of those candidates needs to secure 1,237 delegates. joining us with reaction, 2016 republican president candidate texas senator ted cruz. senator, great to have you. look. i do not want to spend a lot of time on the sleaze occupied way too much air time. but i can't ignore it. so i want to ask you this. i understand things have gotten personal, wives have been brought up, trump's wife put in

a superpac ad. your wife was, you know, mentioned in twitter. this horrible, disgusting national enquirer piece has come out. is it time for a cease fire? on all sides. >> well, sean, let's be clear. only one side has been firing. i have never said a negative word about donald's wife or anyone in his family and nor would i. melania is a lovely woman. she appears to be a wonderful mother. >> but a superpac. >> wives and kids should be offlimits. >> i'm not saying it's you. i'm saying this is -- isn't it bad in the end? >> hold on a second. sean, of course it is. the facebook ad that was run was wrong. but i don't know the person who ran it. i have no connection to him. we're completely disconnected it's not, quote, my superpac. it is a totally separate group i don't know and what donald did

in response. people don't like donald. they're attacking him. i can't control what 300 million people do. but donald responded by directly going after my wife, heidi, by threatening my wife, by attacking her. and he did it repeatedly by insulting her. and then he and his henchmen planted a garbage story in the national enquirer that is filled with lies. it's totally false. i think the american people are fed up -- >> listen. i believe it's false but let me ask this. >> slime and the sleaze. i'm not going to respond in kind. i won't engage in it. who cares? i think what the american people want is a president focused on solving the real problems of this country. bringing back jobs, jobs back to america, raising wages, turning around the economy, keeping america safe. from radical islamic terrorism. that's my focus, not the silliness and constant attacks from donald trump's twitter. >> all right. let me move on. >> so can we actually talk about, for example, the terror

a:00 that happened in brussels last week? it was horrific and it is an example of how we face radical islamic terrorism. >> i think it's very important we talk about it. >> across the globe, and we have a commander in chief who is utterly unwilling to defend this country instead he repeats politically correct talking points because he'd rather lecture the american people on islam-ophobia than utter the words radical islamic terrorism. we need a chief who understands the nature of the threat and who is repaired to do everything that is needed. that's what i'll do as president. >> let me ask this and look at the president, for example. we had him meeting with the murderous dictator raul castro, a murdering dictator. and he is doing the wave, and then he goes to argentina and he is doing the tango. we'll put that up for people to watch both these things, the wave and the tango, in light of brussels and what happened there. and then he says we must not stigmatize muslim americans and called for more refugees to come into the country even though i have a long list of national

intelligence officials including our fbi director, assistant fbi director, obama's own envoy to defeat isis, national director of intelligence, our homeland security chairman saying that isis and other terror groups will infiltrate the refugee population. he wants to bring in more. isn't that putting american lives at risk? isn't that at the end of the day gambling with the lives of americans? >> of course it is, barack obama and hillary clinton's plan to bring tens of thousands of syrian refugees to america is lunacy. it makes so sense whatsoever. isis told us they intend to infiltrate those refugees, to send jihadists here to murder us. they did that in paris and then they participated in the paris terror attacks. the head of the fbi has told congress that they cannot vet these refugees to make sure they're not isis terrorists and yet obama and hillary and the democratic party are so politically correct that they insist on bringing them in

anyway even though they know they're bringing jihadists. that doesn't make any sense and i have to tell you, sean, this is the sort of issue we ought to be debating in the presidential race and we ought to be debating donald trump and i should be debating directly one on one. you know what? i'd be very happy to have a debate with donald trump on your show. we could do two hours on your show. i invited him to do it on bill o'reilly. we can do it op you. both you and bill have been very, very friendly with donald. he ought to get a fair moderator. but donald sun willing to debate. >> i've been fair to you, senator. let's be fair here. >> i agree. but i'm pointing out i'm willing to show up anywhere. donald is terrified to show up anywhere. you know, tomorrow night we've got two town halls in cnn back to back in the same place. and yet, donald refuses to show up on stage with me because he cannot defend his policies. i think the people of wisconsin deserve to know what solutions each of us have for bringing jobs back to america, for raising wages, what solutions

each of us have for defeating radical islamic terrorism and keeping this country safe and the reason donald doesn't want to talk about that is he doesn't have solutions. these are serious times and we need a president who is up to the task and knows how to turn things around. >> let me ask this question. i think there's a lot of people like me that are out here watching this process. mitt romney has suggested he wants a brokered convention or contested convention. john boehner says we could nominate paul ryan in this case. we have two rnc honchos that mentioned it. one from north dakota and another person. and others have said the same thing. i'm told scott walker in a meeting in new york last week actually said that he wanted paul ryan to come in at the last minute and usurp the will of the people and disenfranchise voters. that would mean leapfrogging

clearly over you or donald trump, or both of you even. if that happens, isn't that stealing -- isn't that totally usurping the will of the people? isn't that something you find offensive? i find that offensive. >> sean, of course it would be but it's not going to happen. the republican nominee is going to be one of two people. it will either be me or donald trump. we're the only two who can win 1,237 delegates. either prior to the convention. we have a clear path of winning 1237 delegates prior to the convention. or if we go into the convention and nobody's gotten 1237, then donald trump and i will both go in with a ton of delegates. and the delegates will design. and under the rules, there will be only two names on the ballot, donald trump's and mine. if we get to a convention and nobody has 1,237, i think we will be in a very, very strong position to earn the votes of the delegates who were elected by the people to win a majority and that's what it takes to become the republican nominee, to win a majority. and we're going to win a

majority i believe, beat donald trump and then we're going to go on and beat hillary clinton. and that's one of the real differences is that donald loses to hillary by double-digits. it is a blowout if he's the nominee. i beat hillary clinton and there was a few days ago a new poll came out showed me not only beating hillary clinton, but showed me beating hillary clinton among young people. you know, the last two elections barack obama won young people 70-30. right now i'm beating hillary clinton with young people because they're tired of the failures of this administration, the failures of this agenda, and they want someone who fights for jobs and economic opportunity and the future so that they can get jobs and have a better opportunity. also someone who will protect their rights and protect their safety and security. >> one of the things as somebody who wants to see hillary defeated because i would view it as a third term of obama based on her principles, by the way, if she is not wearing an orange jumpsuit or indicted by that time. if you look at social media, i'm sure you're on the road and

probably don't have the time you normally do to read a lot of what's going on. it's like the cruz people hate the trump people. the trump people hate the cruz people. and it's somebody just observing the intensity of all of this right now, i know passions are running high and a lot at stake and especially wives brought into it, now it's personal, and i guess my question is, are you confident at the end of this process, one of you are right. one of you two are going to be -- should be the nominee if the establishment doesn't try to steal it. i'm assuming it's one of you two. are you confident at the end of the day that if you win you're going to get trump supporters? if he wins, he's going to get cruz supporters. are you confident of that? >> listen. i am confident when we win the nomination we'll continue to bring the party together, we'll continue to unite initially the 65% of republicans that recognize that nominating donald trump essentially forfeits the

general election to hillary. but then when we win through the democratic process, through winning at the ballot box or winning either getting to 1,237 delegates or at a convention earning 1,237 delegates that have been elected by the people, i am confident that the overwhelming majority of the trump supporters will come, come back and join us. and we will stand united. i would note that many of those supporters have been supporting us at different times, as well. and my focus is on the problems facing this country and these are issues that you unite us. my priorities are jobs, freedom and security. every one of those is a powerful, unifying issue and i think one of the ways you help bring people together is you have never heard me in the entire course of this campaign attack donald trump personally, attack his family, attack his character. i keep the focus on issues and substance and there's a reason for that because it makes it, a, the right thing to do and then b easier to unify the party

afterwards, bring us together. and we have got to come together and defeat hillary clinton in november. because we've got to turn this country around. it really is now or never. another four or eight more years of these failed policies and i fear we have reached the point of no return. we have to get out of the debt, get jobs back to america. we have to restore our constitution and not lose the supreme court and we must, must, must defeat radical islamic terrorism and destroy isis. those are the issues in this election. and those are issues that unify americans. >> will agree with you whole heartedly. this country is at a tipping point. we better fix it or else we'll lose it. >> yes. absolutely. >> senator, good to see you. appreciate it. when we come back, newt gingrich is here. he'll break down the 2016 race. and then later tonight -- >> we do think we have path towards victory. the last national poll we actually beat secretary clinton by a point. we started 50 points behind. i think the momentum is with us. >> all right. hillary clinton had a horrible weekend. she lost three races in a

magnificent way to bernie sanders. very funny. and a "l.a. times" report federal prosecutors in the process of setting up interviews with clinton's closest aides over the private e-mail server and interview the candidate herself. tucker carlson, monica crowley, herman cain are here tonight with that reaction. more straight ahead. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet?

live from america's news headquarters, i'm kelly wright. good evening. the death toll rising again in the wake of last week's deadly bombings in belgium. the belgium health minister now says four of the wounded have died, bringing the number of killed to 35. meanwhile, police releasing new surveillance video of the man in white seen with the two airport suicide bombers. they're asking the public for help identifying him.

belgium media have reported he was in custody, but the belgium magistrate ruled monday there were no grounds to keep that man in custody. the biggest wildfire in kansas history is blamed for destroying at least nine homes in barber county. the fire which started in oklahoma has scorched nearly 600 scare miles. it's now nearing containment, and thankfully no one has suffered any serious injuries. that's a look at news. i'm kelly wright. now back to "hannity." and welcome back to "hannity." things have gotten pretty contentious on the campaign trail in recent days. here with reaction, author of "duplicity," fox news contributor, newt gingrich. i'm watching this -- this circular firing squad emerge in this campaign on the republican side. and it concerns me because i think at the end of the day people's tensions are way too high. we're not focused on issues, and

the democrats are loving the intermural squabble. and it's distracting from the fact that hillary clinton is about to be interviewed by the fbi. thoughts? >> well, first of all, to go back to the democrats for one second, you know, she didn't just lose. sanders got 82% in alaska, 73% in washington state and 71% in hawaii. i mean, these are catastrophic results coming on top of some earlier victories a week before. i think that hillary's organization has to be pretty shaken by how badly she is currently doing and sanders raised $4 million online since saturday and he is going to keep rolling and this highlights your point. here you have a real race in the democratic party and you have one of the dumbest weeks in presidential politics that i can remember. for trump to get sucked in to this at a personal level, tweeting about or repeating a tweet technically -- >> retweet, yeah.

>> about mrs. cruz is just utterly stupid. and it is, frankly, weakened everything that trump ought to be strengthening. it sent a signal to women that is negative at a time when his numbers of the women are already bad. it sent a signal of instability to people beginning to say, okay, maybe i have to get used to it. maybe i have to rely on him. maybe he could be presidential. and frankly, it energized cruz. the interview you just did as is as good as i have ever seen ted cruz. he was clear. he was vigorous. he was prepared to be combative. at the same time he was getting into big issues and big ideas. my guess is he's going to do well in wisconsin and this ought to be a wake-up call to trump that he had better rethink some of the underlying patterns of his campaign. >> look. for the life of me i don't understand when families and wives are brought into it.

and i'm just trying to look at it fairly from both sides. i'm sure he's mad about the ad about melania. i'm sure he assumed it was the cruz campaign. cruz says, no. and then he does a retweet. that then is on him and then you have a whole thing that breaks in "the national enquirer" and i think total b.s. also and that was pitched a long time ago by another come pain. it begins to -- you know, coalesce around the wrong things to be talking about. >> look, donald trump had a very easy answer to that truly stupid. >> superpac. >> i think it was actually a facebook thad was sent up. >> yeah. >> the answer is simple. melania was a super model on a professional shoot for a very famous magazine. he is proud of her and she will be a beautiful first lady. if he just said that and moved

on, then the cruz campaign would have looked stupid. the issue would have been over. he would have seemed more disciplined and pleasant and a gentleman. instead he gets down into the mud that i think really has hurt him. i'm not sure anybody in the trump campaign understands yet what a big mistake this is, and they can't keep doing this stuff and think they're going to get the nomination. there is -- they're still in the dogfight. cruz does have a road to get to a majority. certainly a road to block trump from a majority. and i don't know that on a second ballot that trump would be able to survive. cruz is doing a better job than trump of organizing delegates as we learned, for example, in louisiana. this is a tough business running for president. and you can talk about lawsuits all you want to as trump did today. that ain't going to cut it. he has to get in there, be well organized and actually get the delegates and i think he's got to reassess some of what he's doing. >> okay.

at this point, trump would need 53% of remaining delegates to get the nomination. wisconsin's winner take all. i guess he has a firewall going to new york and then you have states mostly winner take all feel to it. there's so many screwed and discombobulated rules and then connecticut, delaware, maryland, pennsylvania, rhode island. who does well in those states or do we know or tell at this point? >> no. i think kasich does a little better than people expected. he is doing better in wisconsin than people thought he would and may well carry pennsylvania. i think he is tied with trump in pennsylvania. he has a chance to do well in places like connecticut. so kasich becomes another part of this game. but remember, the game is can trump get to the delegates he needs or not? if he doesn't, then you got a lot of different possibilities. you have the, you know, cruz-kasich ticket, for example. a lot of things could be happening and you can't assume.

you have got rubio's delegates sitting out there. pennsylvania for example is uncommitted. even though they have a primary, the primary's a beauty contest. it doesn't bind the delegates but the other thing is things like this latest tweet and getting down in the mud about mrs. cruz in a state like california this really hurts. and california has a huge delegation and so trump cannot relax and assume, you know, the very technique that is got him this far may stop him from closing the deal. and that's why i think he's got really reflect on what he's doing. >> yeah. well, look. he needs 53%. cruz needs 83% but you are right. this can take on a whole different feel. what does it take, though? i mean, let's say nobody gets to 1,237 but trump at 1,150 and cruz is at 950 -- why are you laughing? you always laugh at my questions. i ask and you laugh. >> look, as a historian, you

know, and frankly, standpoint of fox news, what a convention that would be. that whole period from june 7th on to the convention? cleveland would be six or seven weeks of maneuvering, negotiating, visiting. it would be as wild as anything you and i have ever seen in our lifetime in terms of american domestic politics. >> okay. i love that part of it, but i also suspect that if somebody either has a majority, a majority or plurality of delegates and they don't get the nomination, that their supporters are going to feel disenfranchised and they're will be pissed. >> yeah, look. here's the great challenge we're faced with right now. i don't think people thought about the two sides of this. on the one hand, you can't steal the nomination from trump without him potentially walking and taking almost half the party with him. on the other hand, if trump continues to alienate people, he could have 600 or 800 delegates get up and walk out during his

acceptance speech. this is a two-way game here and a lot more effort has to be put into being presidential, bringing us back together, doing things so people feel comfortable. and i think that people need to recognize this is a free country. both sides can play this game. >> all right. stay right there. we have more newt gingrich right after the break. and coming up later tonight -- >> we think we do have a path toward victory. in the last national poll we actually beat secretary clinton by a point. we started 50 points behind. i think the momentum is with us. >> sanders claims he has momentum on his side. after sweeping three races in a big way this weekend. how nervous could the clinton campaign get? tucker carlson, monica crowley, herman cain weigh in. a wick quick programing note. we had ted cruz on tonight. tomorrow night, 10:00 eastern, donald trump will join us here on "hannity." stay with us. i think we should've taken a left at the river.

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we continue now with former speaker of the house, newt gingrich. all right. if the establishment -- i see the missile building. if the establishment tries to leapfrog over the two top vote-getters -- i know you don't think this will happen. but a lot of people are suggest -- john boehner said anybody could be nominated. i want paul ryan. i was told in a meeting last week governors are pushing this. you have gop -- you know, rulemakers pushing this. mitt romney has laid out that strategy. the quote, consensus candidate scenario. if that happens, don't you think that -- >> it's not going to -- it can't happen. look. i thought you did a great interview with ted and cruz was very direct and very clear about this. and i agree with him entirely. there are only two names -- >> two people. >> period. >> then why is john kasich still in the race? >> because kasich has a bloc of votes. he could get really lucky and might be vice presidential nominee, might be in some kind

of scenario being the kingmaker, deciding which of the two wins. imagine you're in a situation as governor of ohio and you have the swing group of votes and you have both cruz and trump dropping by columbus talking to you. you might want to shape the platform. you might want to shape a lot of different things at this point. there's no reason for kasich to drop out. >> should either trump or cruz be nervous or just -- they ought to be fighting to get to 1,237, period? >> look. trump and cruz ought to have a pact that says in the end if we have to, we'll get in the room and one of the two of us are nominee and we'll jointly stomp on anybody in the establishment who tries to cheat. now, that's how clear cut that ought to be. i think it would be such a fundamental violation -- >> by the way, do you want to negotiate that deal with the mood that's currently out there? >> not this week. not that week. >> i think easy to resolve peace issues in the middle east between the palestinians and

israelis before you get to that peace proposal. >> look. these are both grown men. and i think they understand that there are historic forces at work here. they both represent a historic change in america. neither of them will end up supporting some unknown person in that kind of setting. it is not going to happen. >> yeah. i agree. all right. so at the end of the day, are you confident if you read social media, i know you actually do, which is pretty fascinating. you're one of the lifelong learners i know and you read all the time and you see the intensity. do you have any doubts that if cruz gets it trump people leave? trump gets it, cruz people leave? or do they unite? >> i think it depends on how they handle the period until the convention and the convention. this is why i raise the specter. you can get a walkout either way. if trump is too aloof and is too self centered and too abrasive, he can end up with 600 or 800 delegates walking out.

if cruz ends up really running over trump in a what they is unacceptable, he could end up. so, you know, these guys have the potential to break things apart. but they both have a vested interest as patriots and citizens beating hillary clinton and i think both of them in the end say let's find a way, remember, there's a stretch there when trump was talking about unity and unified and right tone and lasted for two weeks and needs to get back to that and drop the last week of nonsense and same time as cruz said he's not -- tried not to attack trump personally. they disagree deeply on issues. cruz understands in the end if we're going to beat hillary clinton, if we're going to save the supreme court, if we're going to get america back into an effective anti-terrorist policy, those two guys have got to find a way to work together. they can't do it until the delegates are done. but in the end, we have got to find a way to come back together. >> you're confident that will happen.

now, hillary as we read -- >> confident's too strong a word. i am hopeful. >> cautiously optimistic? >> cautiously optimistic. >> okay. i am cautiously optimistic. hillary according to "la times" -- cheryl mills, huma abedin and others will be called before the fbi. >> my impression was before a grand jury. i may be wrong. >> "la times" piece said by the fbi. >> okay. well, interviewed by the fbi is a step short of being interviewed in front of a grand jury so i would say the fbi's trying to wrap up the investigation. they clearly believe there's something sufficiently strong that they feel in need to interview the principles and i think if you go to -- >> not a good sign. in other words, as hillary to be interviewed, i know her spokeswoman said today oh, that's great. yeah right. that's not good. >> well, if you're hillary and you have survived from whitewater to the present, no matter what happens, your attitude is tough it out, tough

it out, tough it out. but if you watch what's happening with bernie sanders, she is losing so many people who believe she is a liar. considering how strong she was when this began, as sanders said at the beginning of the show, he was 50 points behind. he is one point ahead nationally. that is an enormous tidal change and you are going to see super delegates start to follow the polls because they're going to start being scared about what hillary's going to mean on the ticket this fall. >> all right. newt gingrich, as always, thank you. >> thank you. coming up next here on "hannity" -- >> we think we do have a path toward victory. in the last national poll we actually beat secretary clinton by a point. we started 50 points behind. i think the momentum is with us. >> as newt just said, not a good weekend for the clinton campaign. bernie sanders beat her badly in three races. plus, "la times" reports that federal prosecutors are starting to set up interviews related to the private server scandal and that means hillary herself.

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welcome back to "hannity." hillary clinton should be pretty nervous tonight not only did she lose all three democratic presidential contests to senator bernie sanders over the weekend, but according to "the l.a. times," the fbi probe into hillary's server and e-mail are now entering a new phase. the paper's reporting that federal prosecutors are now setting up formal interviews with clinton's closest aides and may even interview hillary clinton herself. here with reaction, author of "the right problems" herman cain. from the daily caller tucker carlson and washington times columnist monica crowley. good the see you.

welcome all of you. good see you. >> hi, sean. >> hi, sean. >> looking at the percentages of the loss, i mean, it is really overwhelming in terms of how bad she lost. 70, 82%, 7%. she got crushed this weekend. >> in all three states. yeah. she does maintain a significant lead particularly when you factor in the super delegates so i think that conventional wisdom is still that she's dominating this race. but we saw a bit of a momentum shift with the races going to bernie sanders. she has certain segments of the population of a democratic constituency that support her. african-americans, women. but beyond that, she's losing among millennials. people under the age of 30, she's hemorrhaging them to bernie sanders. she's got a very serious problem here going forward. >> yeah. herman cain, i don't know if there's much she can do but she's weak for the democrats and now the possibility, the fbi according to "la times" piece at the end of the investigation. they're going to bring in the closest aides and interview her herself. and then just determine, are they prosecutable offenses here.

possible felonies. if they decide, yes, what happens then? >> well, the democrats will be in a dilemma because i think that all of this enthusiasm of these wide-eyed democrat socialists turning out for bernie sanders i don't think they pull back the curtain. in addition to what monica said, if you look at not just the delegate count, but the percentage of super delegates before last week, whereas bernie sanders is getting the huge victories like last weekend, he's got 7, 75% of the delegates, but only 6% as many super delegates. what bernie is counting on is that the super delegates may start to change their allegiance. i don't think that's going to happen. her biggest problem and the thing that will cause her campaign to get really, really nervous is what you pointed out about the potential indictment for some of these things that she's been investigated for. >> it seems kind of corrupt, tucker. i mean, it is almost like i don't understand what's

happening in louisiana. trump won louisiana. ted cruz will come out with ten more delegates at the end. i know some rubio people switched over, et cetera. but the super delegates are a big question. in alaska, sanders wins 82-18. washington, 73-17. hawaii, 70-30. these are massive victories. you think is there buyers remorse going on as we move into thlatter states? >> if it seems corrupt it is utterly corrupt. it contravenes everything we've been talking since childhood about what democracy is, which is the person with most support wins. >> maybe not the republican side either. there's an effort -- >> trust me. trust me. people in washington who run the party have no intention of letting donald trump be the nominee. they don't think he will be. they don't care what the voters say about endorsing trump. i'm merely reporting on their attitude. i had a conversation ten minutes

ago with a republican who said no way, no way. he's -- the convention is where this ends. >> mitt romney outlined it. john boehner said it. scott walker in a private meeting in new york. i'll throw this to monica. that's clearly their plan is that they want to get another person and leapfrog over the people that got the most votes, trump and cruz, do they think those people show up and actually vote for them in a general election? >> you have voter rebellion on both sides. you see the support of bernie sanders on the far left in the democratic party. that's a revolt going on on that side. if they try to take this away from donald trump assuming he ends up with the most number of delegates, there will be a rebellion in the republican party in the conservative movement and already started frankly. but if they try to pull these kinds of shenanigans and deny him that, you will see a revolt that will rip apart this party. the great irony is that they're blaming donald trump for tearing apart the republican party. no. the republican party elites have done a fine job of this all along. hence the rise of donald trump. >> and doesn't it rae inforce,

reiners to reinforce, herman casino, the very reason that this rebellion and year started in the first place? >> right. >> yes. the more they try to stop donald trump the more votes he gets and the more people want to get him elected. i happen to believe there's an outside chance to go to the convention with 1,237 delegates and as monica pointed out and as tucker pointed out, if, in fact, the establishment find a way to take it away from him, it won't just destroy the republican party. the republican party will become the third largest former political party to break it up. that will be the emergence of another party and republican party will be done. >> if they did that, would you walk? >> they are in denial. >> if they did that, would you vote for whoever they picked and disenfranchise the voters? >> i don't know if i will, sean. >> how many years have you known me? >> wait a minute. shane is my executive producer.

i get the two of you all mixed up. although you got more hair, i'll give you that much. >> wow. >> i can't say because here's what i believe. i believe -- >> i remember 999 just so you know. >> there's going to be -- there's going to be a fight if, in fact, they try to take it away from donaldrump. so what might do if i can't say at this point. i just know it's wrong if they try to take it away from trump if he legitimately gets the number of delegates required. that will destroy the republican party. >> jeb bush. stay right there. with got to take a break. more with jeb, monica and tucker. kidding. all right. right after the break. also tonight -- >> i think democrats risk losing this election if they cannot put together the words "islamic extremism clothe. as opposed to violent extremism. please just tell me that you recognize that it is distinct threat. >> all right. bill maher not afraid to use the term. liberals can learn a thing or two from him. believe it or not.

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i think the democrats risk losing this election if they cannot put together the words islamic extremism. as opposed to violent extremism. please just tell me that you recognize it's a distinct threat

much greater than any other violent extremist threat. you don't think it's on the same order as the kkk. just say islamic terrorism. just say those words and you'll win the election. avoid those words and you will lose the election. >> there was hbo's liberal poster child bill maher pressing democratic senator corey booker on why democrats refuse to iter the words radical extremism, terrorism. back with us monica crowley, herman cain, tucker carlson. republicans now making a huge mistake. ted cruz, donald trump, i don't want to hear about people's lives and kids anymore. and i think they need to focus on this. otherwise, it's like a circular firing squad that is emerging. >> no, i agree with you. thing is what the voters want. civilization is hanging by a thread, and they want serious conversation about serious issues.

every once in a while bill maher gets it right. >> he does. >> especially on the islamic threat. he has nailed that on his show. and i think he is right about this. look, the enemy has no problem telling us who they are, what they believe in, what they're doing, and what they intend to do. and yet we have western leaders led by president obama who not only can't say the phrase "islamic extremism" and "islamic terrorism" i wouldn't care if obama referred to the islamists like rainbows and puppies as long as he had a policy in place to actually go fight this war. he has neither. we actually have the worst of both possible words. >> tucker, do you agree that now he's got to transition back to the issue, securing the borders, balancing the budget, national security, education, all those things that supposedly we care about. >> yeah, i mean, you can't take a turn for the truly stupid in the last week. i don't think we benefitted from it at all.

to bill maher's point, one, there are a fair number of muslim voters in the country and the democrats have a lock on them and they don't want to alienate them. that's the first thing. the second thing that. >> really don't see islamic terrorism as larger threat than terrorism at home. the rest of us look out there in the middle east and we say that's a medieval threat coming at us. they look at alabama and say there is a medieval threat coming at us. they really do think. >> that's pretty scary, isn't it? >> it's true. all 11 mentally deficient members, our largest threat is isis. they have pure contempt for the middle of the country. and they imagine this dangerous place full of armed bigots. they mean it too. they feel that way. >> i watch social media a lot, herman, and i know you do. and for example, right now cruz supporters hate trump supporters. trump supporters hate cruz supporters. >> right. >> it's fuelling this fire. my question is, do you worry at the end of this process that everybody unites, assuming the establishment doesn't do what we're talking about in the last

segment and that's circumvent the will of the voters and try to usurp that voting that has taken place in disenfranchised people. >> the people that are supporting donald trump and ted cruz, if that process works out and one of them emerges as the nominee, they will unite behind the nominee, whichever one it is. >> do you really believe that's going to happen? >> well, no, no. the establishment pulls their shenanigans and denies the person with the most delegates, no, they're not going to unite behind them. let's go back to bill maher for a second quickly here. you to start with using the right words to identify the right problem in order to end up with the right solution. this administration has not wanted to use the correct terminology to identify the problem for the last seven almost almost one-half years. they're not about to do it now.

the reason that people are chicken of that move is they know that donald trump will not be soft on terrorism. he will be very tough on radical islamic terrorism. >> every single national security expert in this country warns isis will infiltrate the refugee population. and this president wants, is insisting on bringing more and gambling with the lives of american people. >> already has infiltrated. they're claim thanksgiving have operatives here already. so what the american people are craving is a strong leader. and donald trump is. they want a strong national security leader in the white house. >> all right. guy, good to see you. thank you. coming up, we have more "hannity" right after this quick break. hey, need fast heartburn relief? try cool mint zantac. it releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. nexium can take 24 hours. try cool mint zantac. no pill relieves heartburn faster. prediabetes?!

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