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two big stories breaking tonight, just days ahead >> two o big stories breaking jt ahead of the battle for wisconsin. donald trump touching off a firestorm tonight with some controversial new comments on abortion. along with a threat to break ranks with the republican party. welcome to the kelly file, everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the news is coming fast tonight on both of these items, each coming from comments the republican front-runner made in interviews he taped for sunday's shows. excerpts of which have just been released. now, we'll get to the news about a possible third-party run and whether that is even possible in a few moments. but first to abortion. the issue that has dogged mr. trump all week. he was pressed about abortion again earlier this week he told
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an interviewer he believed women should be punished if they have an abortion, if abortion is made illegal. he almost immediately had to dial that back after getting hit by both sides. then today he sat down with john dickerson of cbs news and listen to what he told him. >> the laws are set now on abortion and that's the way they're going to remain until they're changed. >> you told bloomberg in january that you believed abortion should be banned at some point in pregnancy. >> first of all, i would have liked to see, you know, this be a state -- i would have preferred states rights. thi right now the laws are set and that's the way the laws are. >> you have a feeling how they should change. you have a lot of laws you want to change, everything from libel to torture. >> at this moment, the laws are set, and i think we have to leave it that way. >> now they've walked that back. in a statement that was just put out by the campaign
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spokesperson, hope hicks, who has just releases the follow. mr. trump gave an accurate account of the law as it is today and made clear it must stay that way now until he is president. then he will change the law through his judicial appointments and allow the states to protect the unborn. there is nothing new or different here. we're going to start the evening with tucker carlson, host of "fox & friends" weekend and bon domenech, publisher of the federalist to try to unpack this. the problem is he told john dickerson, who asked him should the laws on abortion change? trump is running for the republican party, which is like the first rule is you have to be pr pro-life. i think it's even before limited government. and he said, the laws are set, and we need to leave them that way. so then they come out with now hope hicks as put out the law must stay that way now until he's president, and then he'll
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change it. ben? >> you know, this is an interesting moment for donald trump. you had him sort of going through all these situations where he had the opportunity to give speech after victory speech, to maintain this momentum, to be winning all the time when he was on television. but now he enters this period where from march 22nd to april 19th, it looks like he's not going to come away with any opportunities to give victory speeches, which means he has to talk about policy. in this instance he went from on wednesday saying that women needed to be punished, to thursday saying doctors needed to be punished, to today saying the law needs to stay the way it is and reversing that in moments. i think it's displaying the ability of donald trump to unify people. he's unified planned parenthood and the right to life community at the same time in rejecting his comments on this issue. >> tucker, it certainly shows i guess a lack of consideration on a critical issue. he's sort of all over the board. he's not a politician, but this is a big old issue in republican politics and in presidential politics. >> he obviously hasn't thought
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about it. he doesn't have an answer that makes sense. >> in washington, i knew very few people who work in party politics full-time who actually are pro-life, but you're right. absolutely, trump should have taken time to think through a reasonable facsimile of a republican answer on this, and he clearly hasn't. that's troubling. on the other hand, who's voting for him over abortion? if that's your top issue, you're probably not voting for trump. you're probably voting for cruz or another candidate. you vote for trump if you're mad at the establishment, if you're mad about political correctness. >> i ask you, tucker, isn't this more not about the 30, 33% who follow him no matter what, it's about building on that in. >> oh, for sure. look, i'm not defending trump here. i'm merely saying there's a lot of fake outrage. if you looked at donald trump he doesn't have one. he doesn't care obviously and that's evident now. but you have to be disciplined. you have to study. you have to seem like you're not
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reckless. you have to give consistent answers. the problem is not his view on abortion, it's his comportment. that's the problem. >> but there's also a host of people who frankly have adopted this idea that donald trump could at least pretend to be with them on this issue. i think that comments like these reveal that he can't even do that for a significant amount of time. john dickerson was pressing him on that. chris matthews pressed him on this. i think his return to sort of these pie ets that he thinks will get pro-lifers to like him, what he thinks they want to hear, it prevents him from being able to build on that 30%. >> i would put this in a little context, though. i don't think trump has more contempt for evangelicals than your average republican party leader. so i guess kind of compared to what? they're better talkers, but they don't mean it. >> the question is whether this is causing doubts in pockets of the republican party that were on the fence about trump.
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i mean not everybody has made up their mind, and obviously he's very well known, but the question is, ben, when we've seen this series of events and the 73% disapproval number with women and the tweeting out about heidi cruz being unattractive in his view and you know the thing about comparing her to melania, these things have happened and he hasn't had a win to talk about night after night and may not if wisconsin goes the way the polls are suggesting. so where does that leave us? >> he's had a bunch of own goals. that's the thing. it's a lot of mistakes that he himself is making is can't blame on others. in this instance, you see a situation where he's gotten huge negatives with white women, which mitt romney won, independents, with college graduates, white college graduates went to mitt romney. anyone who wanted to win in a general election would need to build on them. i think the comments like these are only going to increase the call for everyone to pull out every stop they can to stop
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donald trump before he becomes the republican nominee because of the fear he will put both the house and senate in jeopardy. >> do you agree with that? i was watching candidate casino, and very smart people were all still putting -- i mean all their money in somecati cases tn the nomination. >> i think we're learning what we knew, which is trump is a very volatile guy who has the capacity for self-destruction. we're seeing that on display now. my concern is what i'm seeing in washington where republican leaders are using trump's self-imohlation as an opportunity to ignore his voters, to discredit anyone who is concerned about mass immigration as a racist, for example, or someone who speaks off the cuff, you know, those are ways of dismissing the concerns of a real group of american citizens who have something to say. >> then they're irritated. they're even angrier because they feel ignored and dismissed again. >> exactly. by the way, as americans, they have a right to be heard. they have a right to believe validly that their votes count,
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and these calls to install someone who has not received a single vote, would be a paul ryan or any other sort of white knight figure, really an attack against the idea of democracy. and democracy, once again, is a pressure valve that keeps this country from blowing up. ordinary people feel like in the end, i can vote and it might affect something. the republican party has sort of pulled off the mask and said, we hate you. we're not listening to you, and we're going to put someone in there who never even ran, and there's nothing you can do about it. >> guys, great to see you both. >> as we mentioned at the top of the hour, mr. trump took a lot of fire for abortion remarks. the battle for wisconsin a little more than 72 hours right now. >> if the polls are right, cruz is looking pretty strong. his campaign certainly psyched about how things are going. he's been jumping all over trump for the flip-flop over punishing women for abortions and on foreign policy for saying to save money and stop being the
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world's policeman he'd be okay with japan and saudi arabia getting nukes. he's said we will pull back from nato and europe and now pulled that back. cr trump knows that losing wisconsin would make it real hard to reach the needed 1237 majority delegates for the nomination. but he actually left wisconsin to visit washington to meet with his new foreign policy team and start straightening his policy positions out. he met with rnc officials yesterday as well and assured them he is not going to break his pledge to support another nominee despite what he said earlier this week. trumps going to miss a big candidate forum tonight in milwaukee that both cruz and kasich are aattending. kasich has been boasting about the positive tone of his campaign to months. this week he definitely shifted gear. today while in pennsylvania he suggested the problem with cruz is a counterproductive record because other than shutting down the government, he upsets the people he works were. he has no other solutions. megyn. >> carl cameron, thank you.
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joining me now, frank luntz. and howard kurtz, the host of media buzz. good to see you both. frank, it hasn't been a great week for donald trump. it was a decent week for -- >> let's focus on wisconsin first. they're very fist cated voters. they went through three straight elections to protect scott walker. they're conservatives this policy and ideology, not just behavior, and they care about what a candidate thinks and what they say. the key in wisconsin is you can't just offer platitudes. you have to offer specifics. these voters have been through this over the last four, six years, and they expect candidates who say what they mean and mean what they say. these are bad days for donald trump over the last 96 hours because he has seemed to be inconsistent. he's had to walk back several statements. but what is key here and tucker's right is that if either cruz or kasich are seen to
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disrespect trump voters, they will hurt themselves. the key is to understand and reflect that anger, reflect that sense of betrayal. challenge trump for not coming through on the issues, for not being specific, and for flip-flopping, but do not -- and i emphasize this -- do not criticize the people who have come to him because they went to him for a reason. they wanted to say to washington, i'm fed up. i'm angry and i'm not going to take it anymore. those two candidates, kasich and cruz, have to communicate that over the next 72 hours if they want to maximize the vote on tuesday. >> you see that, howie, in sort of the numbers there because every election night, we saw trump wins in many states overwhelmingly, at least in terms, you know, versus the other candidates, even though the voters who are voting for him do not think he can win in november. if electability is your most important thing, you still might vote for trump even if you think he's not electable.
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that is because they're looking to send a message. >> looking to send a message, and trump energizes them. but, look, he is going through the worst stretch of his campaign, fueled by his own missteps, especially on abortion. the track is he's hostile to women and he's shaky on policy. i do have to say this. any seasoned politician wouldn't answer a hypothetical question from chris matthews, what if abortion were illegal, would you then punish women? if he did, he would have a carefully calibrated, precisely worded answer to avoid stepping on the land mine. well, trump, not being a professional politician, stepped on the land mine. his fans love the fact he doesn't sound like a politician. you step on the land mine and you go to cbs's john dickerson and you still have debris. you're in a hole. >> the reason people aren't giving him a pass on this, frank, is because it's abortion. it's not some esoteric issue that people don't discuss in, you know, presidential politics. it's kind of high on the list,
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and, you know, there have been some people advising trump for months to study. just study, and you would be a much stronger candidate. >> but it's not really an issue. it's a principle. it defines who you are and what you're about regardless of which side you're on. so it's very hard to study a principle. you either have it or you don't. the one thing that republicans in these remaining states are going to communicate is that it is not just these specific issues. it's who you are as a person, what you're about, what's inside you. so when the chips are down, they know that you're going to come out the right way. >> do you believe these suggestions, howie, that this is not just a terrible week for donald trump but, as some of his detractors say, the beginning of the end for him? >> well, i would question everybody that we've heard the beginning of the end at least five, six, seven, eight, nine times in this campaign, and trump has a way of bouncing back. but it does feel like he is at a
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point where he was riding so high a couple weeks ago with all those victories, where he needs to make a pivot, a pivot to a sharper focus and better answers on policy, on sounding more presidential, not responding to every person who ticks him off on cable news, and the abortion misstep, i mean even though he cleaned it up with a statement and they've done that again tonight with cbs, shows that he's not there yet. i think some of his people would like him to get there. if ted cruz beats him in wisconsin, it's only 42 delegates, but psychologically, i think it will be the most important state that ted cruz has won because it blunts that momentum. new york is a couple weeks later. it's going to be a long time before donald trump can make a comeback if he loses wisconsin. >> then what is the media narrative in those two weeks when there's not a contest. it's great to see you both. thanks for being here. well, we have a hot event the night before the wisconsin vote. yours truly will sit down with texas senator and republican presidential candidate ted cruz for a one-on-one town hall in madison wisconsin.
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less than 24 hours before the voters go to the polls. i'll ask him about all of the recent controversies, his rise in the polls, and we'll take questions from the audience. again that is 9:00 p.m. eastern monday, april 4th. we also have another big story involving mr. trump tonight as he tells our own chris wallace that he's giving new consideration to a third-party run. this as he attempts to unite the republican party. up next, we'll speak with veteran pollster ed goets about whether trump can do that and what the rnc is doing ahead of what could be a wild convention. don't go away.
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we're going into potentially, we don't know for sure, but potentially an open convention. so the candidates are going to posture a little bit as far as who they're willing to support. >> that was the rnc chair warning the weeks ahead could get wild. the republican national committee may be preparing for a contested convention. while priebus has said the odds of that happening are slim, the
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committee announced a website called convention facts that focuses on this issue. in moments, we'll be joined by pollster ed gauze and david wahl and talk about this possibility. but first, we go to trace gallagher. >> reporter: when donald trump arrived at his surprise meeting yesterday with reince prix dis, the rnc had already unveiled its new convention facts website that lays out the party's rules for nominating a candidate, including the rules for a contested convention where a candidate does not reach the magic number of 1237. sources say during the meeting, priebus explained that each campaign needs to be prepared to fight for delegates. sources also say that donald trump was not happy with the way his team had performed on that front. the trump camp denies that. but many experts believe if donald trump does not get 1237
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delegates and does not win on the first ballot at the convention, as many as 100 of his delegates will abandon ship. remember, most delegates are only bound to a candidate on the first vote. after that, they become free agents and the cruz and kasich campaigns have apparently made in roads when it comes to stealing them. then there are states like louisiana. trump won the popular vote in the primary, but because it was so close, both he and cruz took 18 delegates. rubio took 5. rubio's delegates and 5 at-large delegates are up for grabs. even though trump won the state, cruz could walk with more delegates. those are the types of rules that have prompted the trump campaign to launch lawsuits. and then you consider the rnc has been knocking down the likelihood of a contested convention, then suddenly it puts out a what if guide. megyn? >> they're doing the math. the math suggests it could very well happen.
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trace, thank you. making things even more complicated is the fact that donald trump might not support the eventual gop nominee is tonight telling chris wallace that he may also be entertaining the possibility of a third party run for himself. >> are you ruling out running as an independent third party candidate? are you ruling that out? a simple question. >> no, it's not that simple. i'm by far the front-runner as a republican. i want to run as a republican. i will beat hillary clinton. >> but if you don't get the fom nation? >> i'm going to see how i was treated. >> joining me now, ed gauze, and david wahl, a trump supporter, california attorney and political analyst. good to see you both. this is fascinating, because the same 24 hours trump called for unity in the republican party, he has said he wouldn't
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support -- he doesn't need ted cruz's support. and now he might run as an independent. ed, your thoughts? >> what we've seen out of donald trump the last 72 hours is a candidate spiraling out of control. both in terms of how he's answering certain questions and his back and forth on these issues. the bottom line is if he gets to july and he's not happy withhe way he was treated and runs as a third party candidate, he has a couple barriers. one is that 46 of the 50 states have sore loser laws. not all those will hold in a presidential year, but some will, so we won't be able to get on the ballot. second of all, it takes a lot of organization and money to get on those ballots. he hasn't shown that organization in his campaign. >> so david, it is true, even in ohio, ohio's secretary of state said he means to uphold the law in this case, the ohio secretary said he intends to hold trump to
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his republican affiliation. so if he tries to run as an independent, it sounds like he won't get cooperation. but if he runs as an independent, it would be as a spoiler. >> well, megyn, one of the hallmarks of a great leader and great negotiator is you never take anything off the table. that's the way mr. trump is. let's remember something when we're talking about this doomsday scenario. he's up by 300 delegates. he has california ahead, he has new york ahead, and he's leading huge in new york by 36 points. and california, the only credible poll i've seen has him up by ten points. he's got maryland, connecticut, rhode island, pennsylvania. >> but it's proportional. >> sort of. you get 13 delegates, and then each different congressional district you can get up to three, up to 172. there's a lot of conservative, really conservative republicans in california that would put him very close to, if not all the
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way up to 172 delegates. so this idea that somehow -- and you watch wisconsin. he has conflicks with governor scott walker. that may be hurting him a little bit. but i'm telling you right now, if he loses wisconsin, he has huge states ahead that will put him possibly up to 1400 delegates. >> go ahead, ed. >> that's not what the numbers are. today, the trump campaign backed away from they'll win wisconsin so we'll at least walk out winning half of the delegates. they don't win wisconsin, they lose a certain number of delegates. to walk out of wisconsin with half of the delegates would mean they have to win a plurality of seven out of eight of the districts. >> say that trump loses wisconsin to cruz. he's looking great in new york
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as of now. and california happens on june 7, that's the last day of the primaries. it's a dogfight and ted cruz is fighting for it. that's one of the untold stories of the campaign. new york is delegate rich and trump could win california, as well. >> first of all, in terms of wisconsin, his problems in wisconsin are not with scott walker. his problems with wisconsin are with the voters. he's upside down on his favorable/unfavorable. with women, there's a 21-point deficit in terms of -- and we're seeing this in other places across the country. the fact is, if he doesn't win wisconsin, he would have to win -- even if he won 100% of all the delegates between now and california, he wouldn't get to that margin and 40% of those are proportional. but you look at the numbers, he loses wisconsin, the opportunity for the likelihood of a
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contested or open convention goes up exponentially. >> i've seen that in several pieces, david, that it doesn't mean he's lost, but it significantly jeopardizes h chances of getting the 1237. >> i do think that his conflict with governor scott walker plays a large role, because it doesn't make sense. if he takes some delegates in wisconsin, what does his lead change to? it goes from 300 to 275 with huge states ahead? again, megyn, the momentum factor is not going to be boosted by losing wisconsin if he does. new york is so huge, 95 delegates, and his lead is so big. that's the state that can get him a huge boost and put him all over the top. and i've got to say, megyn, the idea that it's going to be contested, the problem with the contested convention, the risk you face with people revolting from the party, leaving the
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party, turning their backs is so huge. i think the leaders really want to avoid that at all costs. >> contested convention, the leaders cannot avoid or avoid it. the numbers are what they are. [ overlapping speakers ] >> that is spin. the fact of the matter is, in terms of up until today, of all the votes that have been cast, trump has only gotten 38%. there is a third of republican voters that dislike trump, a third that is for him. so for all the talk, we'll have one third of the party walk away, we may just as likely have another third of the party walk away if he is the nominee. because their dislike for him has been driven so people, especially with women, that we run the risk of not only losing the white house in the fall, but losing the senate. >> we've got to leave it there. thank you so much. >> thank you, megyn.
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coming up, the creator of the circus. wait till you see what the cameras caught, next. >> today, do you think most likely donald trump will be the republican nominee? >> yes. >> yes. >> tell me where you went from no to maybe?
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in showtime's popular series "the circus," viewers gain access to the 2016 presidential campaign. this week, cameras catch up with key members of hillary clinton's campaign staff, and our next guest, mark mckinnon, sits down to din we are them and asks them about donald trump. let's watch mark with them and then we'll speak with mark. >> today, as we sit here, do you think most likely donald trump will be the republican nominee?
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>> yes. >> yes. >> yes. >> tell me the moment where you went from no to maybe? >> when he attacked mccain, a mere mortal could not have survived. >> was it the attack? >> the attack, doubling down on it. >> he's a war hero because he was captured? i like people that weren't captured, i hate to say. >> it was not the beginning of the end, oh, this is something different. yeah. >> it showed he had balls. it showed he was not subject to the normal rules. >> not subject to the normal -- yeah. >> to john's point, he endured. he continued to get crowds and hold his lead. >> i think on the republican side, he has been vexing to them in being able to controlled. >> do you think he can do that in a general election against
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you? >> our job will be to make sure that doesn't happen. >> what kind of things have you learned about him in talking to people that know him, have you had conversations like that? >> do you think i would tell you that on march 24? >> it would seem to impose unique challenges. >> is he suitable to be commander in chief if >> what do you think? what do you think? you're an on everybobservobserv. you've watched what a president does. >> do you think he might be more shrewd than you give him credit for sh >> this is what is dangerous on politics, when we focus on the process and not the substance. you can call it shrewd or
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brilliance. i don't care what it is, it's really bad. there's a point which the race is going to -- you're going to have two candidates and the voters are going to get serious. and it won't be a game anymore. >> fascinating. mark mckinnon is co-host of "the circus" and shechief media advi at one time to george w. bush. this is the wild card. because all the polls show -- most of them, trump losing to hillary clinton by ten points, unlike cruz and unlike kasich. but there's a wild card factor with him that scares the democrats, and we've heard that from david plouffe himself, who got barack obama elected twice. >> no question. and these are a team of people who look at campaigns and they plan for what they've seen before. they've never seen things like trump before, and they have a healthy respect for him. they're not taking him likely. they know there's two ways to run a campaign, scared and
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unopposed. it's very difficult in a campaign, when you can't look at a candidate, look at a track record and anticipate what they'll do. it's like watching game films for a football game. you look at what the team has done in the past. there is no past for donald trump. so it makes it difficult to plan ahead. >> they do have a couple of advantages versus the 17 republicans who are running against trump for most of the past year, which is they have the example of these months to look to, to see what worked and what didn't work. and they're going to have a two-person race if it's trump. in other words, there won't be -- it's going to be a different race for trump. he's not going to be able to sort of avoid deep policy debates when it's just him versus her, if that's how this winds up. >> well, whatever you think about hillary clinton and her politics, it's hard to knock her deep understanding of policy. she's a policy wonk.
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she prides herself in that. and he's looking forward to debates. she wants this election to be about policy and so she's looking forward to those debates. if this week is any forecast for what it's going to be, it could be tough waters and the old saying in campaigns, if you're explaining, you're losing. donald trump has been explaining a lot this week. he's got to be fixed and get fixed fast, because he can't go into those debates uncertain on fundamental policy issues like abortion. when i've worked with republican candidates, the very first thing that you talk about in the very first meeting is focus a clear, compelling, consistent position on abortion. you can't be midway through a campaign and still not know what you're talking about. >> and part of the interview was, do you believe that abortion is murder? and he hemmed and hawed on this.
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they wouldn't answer on camera, have you spoken to people how to deal with him? and they're like, we're not going to tell you. but there are reports how they're going to handle it if it is donald trump. what is your understanding what the democrat's plan is? >> well, this is a very savvy team. these are a team of people that have been around, and i'll say the candidates and campaigns lose -- they learn a lot more from losing than from winning. so hillary clinton lost a big campaign in 2008 that she was supposed to win. believe me, they are talking to everybody, and anybody who has ever had anything to do with trump. the democratic opposition research teams are bragging that 80% of what they're finding hasn't even been discussed yet in the republican primaries. so they believe they've got a lot to talk about. so to the point that tucker made about abortion, that's not an issue that's animating a lot of trump voters. a lot of them will put that aside and say that's not what i care about. but the key is, the people like
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george w. bush, he was consistent. people like leaders who have clear convictions and stick with them. >> i remember steven colbert making that into a joke against president george bush saying he's consistent. he believes on wednesday what he believed on monday, no matter what happened on tuesday. any way, great to see you, mark. the show is fascinating. thanks for being here. coming up on monday, i'll sit down with texas senator and republican presidential candidate ted cruz for a one-hour town hall in wisconsin. this is a critical state for him. his momentum looks good right now. he's ten points ahead in the last two polls out of wisconsin. many say this is a must-win for ted cruz. we'll speak less than 24 hours before the voters go to the polls. that's monday night, 9:00 p.m. eastern, town hall with ted cruz. just ahead, an angry campaign trail outburst.
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allegations of lies in the democratic presidential race and the clinton campaign refusing to apologize to bernie sanders. that's next on this nasty turn in the democratic contest just days away from their vote in wisconsin.
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>> we were telling the truth. these are not just workers in the fossil fuel industry, these are paid, registered lobbyists. secretary clinton, you owe our campaign an apology, we were telling the truth. >> hours ago, the clinton campaign responded with this -- you're not getting this. joining me now, are my guests. so the truth is apparently, she's taken about 157.8 million dollars, that's what she has raised and $307,000 of that has come from individuals who work in the oil and gas industry. so she wasn't right to say she has taken nothing. but he said she's taken
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significant money from the industry. >> 2/10 of 1% of her fund-raising. it's not a big deal. >> to be fair here, campaigns are clever and tricky with how they raise money and how they organize on their behalf. she has four super pacs, 57 lobbyists who have contributed to her campaign. 11 of those have raised and bundled over $1 million each for her super pacs that are out there doing the dirty work. so yeah, she only accepted $307,000 from members of the oil and gas industry, as she hikes to call them. but they're doing a whole lot of work in the shadowy side groups. >> apparently, they're individual donors not part of the super pac. but this is not a big deal. she could have handled that a lot more calmly. >> why is she so angry about it?
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>> you get very tired on the campaign trail. [ overlapping speakers ] >> she's done that before. >> have you ever been on the receiving end of that? >> on this channel actually. but it's not a big deal. she could have said what we just said, this is a small amount, $300,000. come on. >> but what about senator sanders saying, we are owed an apology. like a deep wound. come on! toughen up, buttercup. >> she's running for president, possibly against donald trump. >> if he's the nominee -- >> to be fair, environmental groups are big voting bloc of
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the democratic party. and fracking is an issue in upstate new york, and she's accepted money from them. >> she's not going to lose new york. >> she's only 20 points away, and she was 30 points two weeks ago. >> that is her own state. >> she'll win her own state. it's bernie sanders' home state, too. >> look at the delegate count. she has too. >> she's got 1,712. he's got 1,011. he has to convert the super delegates out and what's irritating a lot of democrats saying it's fixed. the fix is in and he can't make up the difference. >> they're saying that 40% of the pledged super delegates and don't forget, not elected until after the primaries voted and a process of selecting the super delegates and 40% of those who have said if they're selected
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they would possibly support hillary than. >> they're vote and if they're voting against the districts, this's a problem and taken to the convention and if they're vetting against the interest of the voters, expect protests. >> millions more votes, more votes than anybody else. bernie's great and helped her to move. move. >> machine
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get better internet installed on your schedule. comcast business. built for business. new developments tonight in a fight that unfolded at a trump rally earlier this week. investigators now say they could not find any evidence to support allegations made by a 15-year-old female protester who claimed that she was groped at the rally. instead, she could be the one facing consequences. trace gallagher reports from the west coast newsroom. trace? >> reporter: after looking at several videos and interviewing 13 witnesses and the man accused charged, the janesville police said there was no evidence. but she could be charged in theality case that followed the alleged assault. watch. >> hey!
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>> you saw the 15-year-old punch the man she thought groped her. he decided not to press charges. police say the unknown man that fired the peppy spray could be facing battery charges. the's no charges for the supp t supporter telling the 15-year-old you gd communist. n-word lover. get the hell out of here. this rally happened hours after trump campaign manager corey lewandowski charged with battery for grabbing a reporter at a rally three weeks ago and the wake of violent outbursts in recent months including one in january where trump told the supporters to knock the crap out of protesters. and then, when a 78-year-old trump supporter punched a protester escorted out, donald trump offered to pay his legal fees but he later
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monday night, a special event. a one-hour town hall in wisconsin just before the big vote there. with texas senator and republican presidential candidate ted cruz. monday at 9:00 p.m. also, this sunday, 9:00 a.m.
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eastern time, check out sunday morning on cbs. charlie rose and yours truly talk trump, 2016 and the journey here. also, doug brunt makes a special appearance. check it out and let us know what you thought of tonight's show on twitter. thanks, everyone. as hot spots arise around the world, our military is powering down. >> in the army knows that the army is reducing its size. >> i worry about the capability and capacity to win in a major forces. >> with new marching orders -- >> male cadets pressured by the military to walk around in women's high heels. >> i found that entire incident just kind of bizarre. >> is the new u.s. military ready to face new threats? >> you're sending the message