border tomorrow. again, thanks for watching us tonight. ms. megyn is next. i am bill o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops right here, because we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. new fallout from last night's gop primary, which is significantly increasing the chances of a historic fight to claim the mantle of the republican party. good evening and welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the final tally from wisconsin's gop primary shows senator ted cruz winning by double digits. earning 48% of the vote to donald trump's 35%. governor kasich came in third with 14%. senator cruz had been up in the last poll before wisconsin by ten. he exceeded that margin last night with a 13-point victory over donald trump. the delegate count now stands at

743 for trump, 517 for cruz, 143 for kasich. the magic number to clinch the nomination before the convention in july is 1237. tonight, the political analysts say it is looking more and more likely that no candidate will reach that threshold, forcing the party to select a nominee at a contested convention. just about 24 hours ago, senator ted cruz predicted his victory in wisconsin would change this race. >> tonight is a turning point. it is the rallying cry. it is the call from the hardworking men and women from wisconsin to the people of america. and as a result of tonight, as a result of the people of wisconsin defying the media, defying the pundits, i am more and more convinced that our campaign is going to earn the 1237 delegates needed to win the republican nomination. >> joining us tonight on all of

the fallout, a pollster for the r. principles pac who spent $2 million to defeat donald trump. but we begin with bill hem tore take us through the remainder of this race to win the nomination. my friend, bill, good to see you. >> this is not science, okay? >> good. >> this is just like a road map. i don't know if it's a paved road or a dirt road, but we'll find out. we crunched the numbers. of the remaining contests we have, trying to figure out how this could go. wyoming comes up, we think cruz will get most of those. then to new york. we think based on polling, and we'll be generous in some areas and we will not be so generous in other areas to find out how donald trump gets to the magic number right now with wyoming. new york state, if he gets 50% across the districts, he gets all the delegates. the week after that, rhode

island, we're giving trump delegates here, connecticut, delaware, pennsylvania, maryland. so now we are at 925, 312 shy of the magic number. so in may, first tuesday, indiana, looks good for trump. a week later is west virginia, winner take all. trump gets that based on our survey to date. that same day, however, nebraska is winner take all. we think that for the moment will go to ted cruz. now we move third week in may, oregon is a little bit of a split right now. so we'll divy it up. same for washington state. now you move to the 7th of june with five contests remaining. we think on that day, ted cruz will get winner take all month, same for south dakota. new mexico is a 50/50 split. two on the map still. california, trump could get 100

degrees and that same day new jersey's winner take all which puts trump at 1,191. 46 shy of the magic number of 1237. so megyn, now you see the tight road that he must ride with about 150 unbound delegates that we'll get to on another night still in the offing. this will change, we just don't know how. >> fascinating. bill, great to see you. so in the hours since fox news called the wisconsin race for senator cruz, the trump supporters said this is just a blip on the radar. while those who support the senator call it a turning point in this race. joining me now, ed and david. good to see you both. ed, what is the evidence that this is a turning point as opposed to an anomaly? because in wisconsin, ted cruz had a popular governor backing him, your group spending a lot of money against him.

and it was an electorate that many people say looks very different from the other electorates and that could be motivated in particular by local talkradio, which isn't as big a factor in other states coming up. >> it probably does increase the likelihood this is going to go to a contested convention. but more importantly, what we've been seeing are the numbers and we talked about this before, is that there's been this growing intense day amongst the one-third of the republican voters that are no pro-trump, in fact are anti-trump. it's grown almost to the point that it matches the intensity and the enthusiasm of the one-third that is for trump. what you saw in wisconsin was that the 35% he got matched the 35% he's gotten as an average in all these primaries. there's always been a question on how high can his ceiling go? and whether you look at the popular vote, which has him at 38% or the average of all the

primaries, where he's at 35%, he definitely is below that 40% mark, which means that there's a very large component out there that's against him. and as we talked again before, it's driven very much by married women. one of the surprises in wisconsin last night was that there was no gender gap. we saw about two weeks ago, married women with children at home becoming more negative towards trump. but in our polling, we had women 15 points against trump and men only 5 points. last night they matched that 13% negative mark. >> that's the thing, david, there was no gender gap, because the men also turned on him outside of that core group of supporters. so who knows what that can be attributed to. but the point is, with trump having several big contests coming up, and his numbers look great in new york, but that state will be proportional, what does he do to bring people above

and beyond that 35%, 38% into remember, florida was 46%. new york looks like it's over 50% as it stands right now and he's about 35 points ahead of ted cruz. this is a red herring, this idea that there's a ceiling. 95 delegates in new york -- >> just to tell the audience, he had a few grand slams where he cleared 40%, massachusetts, florida, nevada, but taken together he's won 37% of the vote so far. >> megyn, it is ultimately all about the delegates. i like bill's assessment. i would disagree with one thing. he said that california would give trump 100 delegates. i think it's going to go much higher and much closer to the 172. if you use that calculation based on what bill assessed, that will get him over the 1237. i'm telling you right now, this establishment endorsement of ted

cruz will end up creating a huge problem for him. you have jeb bush, scott walker, lindsey graham endorsing him. what does that tell voters that think ted cruz is an outsider -- >> that theory suggests that he needs to win without any sort of main stream republican support. you know, he's not going to win with just glenn beck behind him. whoever the nominee is going to be needs to add more republicans into the mix. >> but why are they supporting him? why are they supporting ted cruz instead of donald trump? they feel he's going to be mallable to match his platform. we get to the convention and bring in -- >> donald trump is calling ted cruz the trojan horse now. >> the interesting thing about all this establishment, we're talking about where the voters, the everyday voters across the country are voting.

and the everyday voters across the country, 62% have not voted for donald trump. this is not an establishment conspiracy. he's not getting the support. at this point, in george w. bush's campaign, his first campaign, he was getting 65%. >> what do you make of the -- a poll just came out today that shows trump at 52% in new york among the republicans. >> those same polls -- you're getting into what i do every day. polls change, as the time gets closer and people focus. these same polls had trump at 65% just a few weeks ago. just like going into wisconsin, they had him up by ten points four weeks out. >> yeah, but this is off all the controversy that was generated over the past few weeks in the trump campaign. that was an april 3rd to 5th poll. >> one of the interesting things is all this talk about last week is what cost trump wisconsin.

he was ten points down before the last week even happened. it just added strokes to the negative feelings many voters had. it didn't drive it or sell it. this is not something that happened he lost wisconsin because of the establishment and his bad week that he had out there. >> go ahead, david. >> wisconsin is a hyper local problem for him. it happened because the people have a great passion for their governor, scott walker. they have their -- they're big on the talk radio guys who hammered donald trump and he conceded in the end. he lost by about what the polls were showing, 10 versus 13. he's going to move on and as i said before, new york is a big deal. if he takes 95 delegates there, from that point forward, the task for ted cruz will be impossible. >> it's tough to get 95% though,

given how new york is proportional. >> he's over 50%. >> you would rather have donald trump's number at this point. great to see you both. just a couple weeks ago, pbs host tavis smiley seemed to be supporting donald trump, but he's now taken to calling him a racial arsonist. tonight, we'll question smiley on that change and get reaction from herman cain. plus, an eye opening report on what's being called the shadow primary and how it could change this race. rnc chair reince priebus joins us. a former trump supporter has issued a threat to any delegate thinking of stealing the vote away from donald trump. that's just ahead. >> we're going to have protests, demonstrations. we will disclose the hotels and room numbers of those delegates directly involved in the steal. i'm talking full time delivery of 7 grams of protein

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breaking tonight. new details on what could ultimately decide the republican nomination. the race some are calling shadowy primary. shadow primary. the candidates know when they arrive in cleveland this july, some uncommitted delegates will be able to vote for any candidate. that means that rounding up these delegates now could be the

key to winning the nomination in a close fight. we have reince priebus with us on that. but for the first, in a series of kelly file reports on the convention in cleveland, we go to our chief washington correspondent james rosen on the shadow primary. james? >> the demands of this so-called shadow primary this summer are increasingly being reflected in the travel schedules of the two leading candidates. ted cruz heads on saturday to colorado, where he peeled away six delegates in congressional district assemblies this past weekend. gop front-runner donald trump is also planning to visit colorado in coming days. trump's team acknowledges the cruz operation is more evolved, that the billionaire real estate mogul is playing catchup. but they maintain the state delegations are playing ted cruz.

>> what makes you think that when it gets to this third and fourth ballot that the cruz folks are counting on, that they're not going to be voting for mitt romney or paul ryan or marco rubio? they're going to be like ted who? they're using ted right now as a vessel to try to stop donald trump. >> reporter: conventional delegates are usually local republican activists, creatures of the establishment. in exchange for enduring the dreariest winter meetings, the largest rule they receive is their attendance at the party convention. the number of delegates who become unbound surges from 5% on the first ballot to 59% on the second. since these delegates are part of a local power structure that includes a governor or state party chairman, some question how unbound they really become. >> i do think that the delegate, since they've been so active in

the party, they're going to have -- i think they might be influenced somewhat by party officials. but at the same time, they're their own individual person who will decide straight on who they want to support. >> reporter: we also know that the rnc has been holding meetings with key operatives here in washington to plot out the mechanics of a contested convention. those meetings themselves have been very, very shadowy. >> that's the theme. joining me now, republican national committee chairman reince prix priebus. thanks for being here. it sheds a lot of light on ted cruz's belief that he can wrap up 1237 before the first vote. so the way he would need to do it, because he's probably not going to get 80% of the vote going forward, is to get the other delegates, like the delegates in pennsylvania that aren't really bound, and you tell me whether he could also

get rubio and kasich's delegates if those two guys got out, or at least rubio's. >> well, certainly. it's sort of two different things going on. on one hand, you have the j allocation of delegates. in most cases, those 25 delegates, they could hate candidate x, but on one or two ballots, they have to vote for candidate x. the same is true for people who are unbound on the first ballot. so if a candidate is really close, they will have an opportunity, if that's a couple hundred unbound delegates on the first ballot. say marco delegates or someone else's delegates to convince them to come on board on the first ballot. >> now already, we're hearing complaints by the trump camp that this election is going to be stolen from him. and we played the sound bite earlier of a long-time donald trump associate and former operative on his campaign, roger

stone, who came out and said this, and he doubled down on it today. listen. >> if trump does not run the table on the rest of the primaries and caucuses, we're looking at a very, very narrow path in which the king makers go all out to cheat, to steal, and to snatch this nomination from the candidate who is overwhelmingly selected by the voters, which is why i urge supporters to come to cleveland. join us. we're going to have protests, demonstrations. we will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved this the steal. >> your thoughts on that, mr. chairman? >> well, i mean, it's -- he's a smart person, but it's just totally over the line. and we're going to have $50 million in security. we'll make sure that every

delegate is safe. here's the thing. the majority wins. the majority wins everywhere across this country. it's what our founding fathers believed in. it was good enough for lincoln. it's good enough in 2016. it's not a matter about who gets a plurality but who get as majority. you have to have a majority of delegates on the floor and the delegates have the ultimate say empowered by the voters in those states. >> are you going to do anything to the rules -- if trump or somebody else for that matter is 50 short or 100 short of 1237, are you going to do anything to the rules to mke it easier or harder for that person to get over the line? >> i'm not going to do anything to help or hurt anybody. i'm going to run an open, honest, and fair convention, and the delegates are going to decide. and the delegates, by majority, are going to make all the decisions that they need to make

at the convention. it's the same thing we do every four years. >> going to be an interesting july. great to see you, mr. chairman. >> thank you, megyn. for more on this business of this former trump adviser threatening convention delegates, who switch from one candidate to another, we've got fox news contributor katie pavelic and charlie hurd. katie, your thoughts on roger stone sounding the threat to delegates that if they leave mr. trump, they're going to have him and i guess mr. trump's constituents to answer to. >> well, the first thing we need to address is that roger stone is accusing delegates who change of stealing an election, when the fact is, if donald trump wants to be the nominee, he needs to lock up 1237 before the primary process is over. in terms of the threats issued, this is par for the course for the trump campaign. you saw donald trump saying this might be riots if he's not the

nominee. many of his surrogates justifying violence because people are upset with the way the country is going. for roger stone to say he's going to give out the hotel rooms of delegates, it's a mob. it's not the way that we work in american society when it comes to the election. instead, they should be focusing on trying to convince delegates not to leave donald trump through policy positions. but instead they're sicking a mob on people, which has serious consequences. >> charlie, was this appropriate? >> it certainly sounds over the line to me. but i also understand that the entire trump candidacy represents a lot of people who are deeply, deeply frustrated and they have been very frustrated for a long time with the political process. and all this talk about the rules at the convention and contested convention and bound

delegates and unbound delegates. all of this obscures a far larger, more important problem that the republican party has. and that is that the republican party, and i think katie would agree with me, in a lot of ways has completely lost touch with its voters. while katie may not agree that donald trump is the right person to pick up the baton and gather those voters, he has successfully done that. when he came out of the gate eight months ago and started talking about immigration and about trade and all these things, where the republican party left its core voters, republican establishment, they laughed at him and mocked him, mocked the issues. they called him a racist. it just exacerbated his problem to the situation we have now. >> but katie, even though mr. trump's message has resonated so strongly with a huge faction of the republican party, it needs to resonate with 51% in order to get the nomination.

>> and we can talk about the issues that donald trump has brought to the forefront. and yes, charlie, we would have agreement on the direction the republican party has gone over the past couple of years and even decades. but the issue here is the way the trump campaign and his allies are handling people whoc whether it's reporters asking him questions about affirmative action after a campaign rally or delegates deciding that they might want to go with a different candidate and roger stone declaring a mob to go and visit the hotel rooms. that's what he stated, that they should visit the delegates if they steal the election. no one is stealing an election. for him to say "go visit them" is a threat, is intimidation, and it will have consequences if these trump supporters choose to act on those directions and instructions. >> obviously, charlie, those delegates should be able to do what the rules allow without

fear of spiintimidation. >> absolutely. but roger stone does not work for the campaign. >> correct. he's not officially involved with them anymore. >> but that doesn't excuse' it. >> it's not like the delegates are swimming in dough and can show up with their private security. these are regular people. >> exactly, exactly. but it's been 40 years since we've seen anything like this. in terms of the fracturing of the party. and in 1976, when we had the situation, ronald reagan at the last minute walked into the convention and gave up his delegates for gerald ford to save him the embarrassment of having to go through the process that we may be about to go through now. but there's none of that on anyone's part whether donald trump or even ted cruz, talking

about people revolting if the establishment doesn't let the nomination go to one of them. >> do not hold out for the magnanimous candidate. we are hearing reports that the trump and cruz campaigns are considering a new strategy to win future voters. dana perino is here on that just ahead. plus, have has tavis smiley gone from suggesting donald trump is a political option to calling him a "racial arsonist?" we'll ask him next and get reaction from herman cain.

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breaking tonight. we have a new poll on the mood of the country and it ain't good. a quinnipiac university survey finds the majority of voters are deeply dissatisfied the way things are going in this country. including 57% who think we've lost our identity as a nation. that includes 79% of republicans and a whopping 85% of all trump supporters. while our next guest says he understands the anger, he argues it is no excuse to support a candidate like donald trump. >> even when the electorate has been anger, that doesn't necessarily, to my mind, mean that you see the success, if i have to call it that, of a

candidate who is racist and sexist and xenophobic. >> talking to michael dukakis there. tavis smiley, great to see you. you know, trump supporters say he's not a racist, he's not a sexist, he's somebody who has been an entertainer and has taken a hard line on certain issues that appeal to this so-called angry electorate like immigration and it's detractors misrepresenting his remarks. >> i understand the dysfunction of our government and how people can be offended by that. and they're not the only ones. but the point is, what the alternative is to fixing that. i just don't think that someone who doesn't have the sort of humanity, the sort of civility, the kind of integrity that we

need right now to take america in the right direction is an option. >> he says i'm not p.c. >> there's nothing wrong with that. the problem is whether or not you can move america in the direction it needs to. when you try to turn the clock back on america -- >> like what? >> his anti-muslim comments, anti-immigrant comments, the way they mall treat persons at these ral rallies. this is the stuff coming out of his mouth and we act like we don't hear this. donald trump can be disciplined -- the question is can he be disciplined enough to win the nomination? whether or not he is, his true colors have already come out. we see donald trump for who he is on one hand. on the other hand, i'm not sure that i know who donald trump is. on any given day, he changes his positions on the issue a number of times. >> not long ago you suggested that you believed black americans could get behind donald trump which is different

from what we've heard recently. >> i've believed that black voters have to stop being taken for grant it by one party and ignored by another. i said where conventional wisdom left the station before the train did, don't assume black folk will be in lock step. >> what is the evidence that trump has bias against african-americans? >> the way that he's campaigned and what he's said. but why should anyone be elected president who runs a segregated campaign? if you can't campaign to all of america, if you're only campaigning to one slice of america, how do we believe you can be president for all of america? if barack obama had only campaigned in the ghetto, he wouldn't have been taken seriously as a candidate. you have to campaign to all of america. we have to know that all of our votes matter to you and where is the evidence that donald trump or ted cruz have said to the

rest of america that your vote matters to me and i'm willing to excite for it. >> i want to ask you about your book. you talk about stepping into your authentic life. it's a way to get people to next best version of themselves. >> it is. it's about what kind of people we really want to be. and what kind of nation we want to be. i think those two things are linked together. if we can be our authentic selves, if we cannot try to transcend who we are from votes or money or fortune or fame, just be who we were created to be and recognize that today is not refundable. every single day we have to do what we can to make america a better place to live and work. i believe that all of americans, this is going to sound strange, but as americans, as divided as this country is, we want to live in a nation that will one day be as good as it ts promise. we ain't there. the gap between the promise of america and the possibility in

america is still too wide. but if we become our better selves, america can be made, i think, a better nation, if we choose the right people who take nus a direction that makes america a nation to be proud of. >> great to see you, tavis. >> thank you. joining me now with reaction is herman cain, fox news contributor and author of "the right problems, what the president, congress, and every candidate should be working on." thank you for being here. what are your thoughts on that perception, that trump is appealing to too limited a group and not to sort of our better angels? >> that's absolutely wrong. the only thing that i agree with tavis on is the fact that the democrats have taken advantage of black people for 50 years and they've gone beyond that. they have conned black people. when tavis talks about donald trump being a racist, running a segregated campaign, all of that is absolutely false. unfortunately, tavis has been

drinking the kool-aid that's been served to the public about all of the negative per sessions. everything that he touched on as to why he has concluded that those labels fit donald trump were based upon taking things out of context. that's where he gets it from. he not only listens and drinks the kool-aid, but he's sharing it with a lot of black people because he has a large black audience. >> do you think the black vote can get behind donald trump? say it's trump versus clinton, do you think that there is a real chance that donald trump could peel off black voters from hillary clinton if those two wind up running against each other? >> absolutely yes. donald trump can peel off some of the black voters and here's why. when it's down to one on one, let's assume for the moment, i know we're not there yet, that it's trump versus clinton. what will happen is, if trump starts to put his platform and his ideas that helps everybody

at the front of his speech, those are the sound bites that people will begin to hear. the reason that there's this so-called divide between the perception of black people and women and nonminorities is because that's all they have been fed in terms of some of the spoon fed sound bites. when it's one on one, and if he sticks to his top three priorities, which also dispels what tavis is saying, all of america benefits from enforcing immigration laws, and all of america benefits by repealing and replacing obamacare. trump has been very explicit about that. >> but to what extent -- the media does what the media does, but what extent does he bear responsibility, rather than just staying on message, instead of going down these roads that get him in trouble.

if he would stick to these popular messages, would he not be better off? >> i absolutely agree. i would not have advised him -- if i were advising him, and i'm not, i would say, stay on message. stay away from all of this stuff that creates political distractions, that creates fodder for people to create the perception they want. so you're right, he is part of the blame for the negative perceptions. but i know donald trump. he's not a racist. he's not a bigot, and he's not running a segregated campaign as tavis says. >> it's all that infrastructure now. you have to mend fences and build bridges. herman cain, great to see you. >> thanks, megyn. we're hearing the cruz and trump campaign may be considering a new approach to winning voters to get them over to the 1237 number. and dana perino is next to talk about what those plans are. [ male announcer ] love drama? don't be a yes man.

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in the hours following the wisconsin primary, we heard reports of a reset for donald trump and ted cruz. now reports indicate strategy changes may be under way in both campaigns as they look to improve their chances of winning the gop nomination. trace gallagher has that live from our west coast newsroom. >> reporter: the trump campaign is pushing back, say thing is no turmoil, only the natural maturation of the campaign, they say in coming weeks, donald trump will give a series of speeches aimed at strengthening the military, reforming education, even laying out how he would pick supreme court justices. but critics say it's becoming clear that internal disputes that have simmered inside catch trump are burning hot and in the wake of the wisconsin loss and a series of misspeaks and missteps, including comments that infuriated both sides of the abortion debate, staffing

changes could be coming. campaign manager corey lewandowski has been unable to demand that donald trump be comprehensively prepared for interviews and public appearances. analysts believe it will add a few political heavy hitters and in an open letter, former white house press secretary ari fleischer offered trump these tips. stop fighting with everyone and don't be so nasty. get your facts right. learn more policy. and as for ted cruz, critics point out that still only two of his set of colleagues have endorsed him, lindsey graham and utah's mike lee. many senators say cruz sevens only his own ambition. politico is reporting the cruz campaign may be trying to end the grudge and move closer to the gop establishment. former texas republican senator phil graham is on board saying the only way to not lose the

presidential election, the house, and the senate, is with ted cruz. >> joining me now with more is dana perino, co-host of "the five." so let's start with ted cruz. if you were advising him on his communication strategy, what would you tell him? >> i'm humble enough to know that i'm not advising anyone, so they can take it or leave it. as trace was just saying, ted cruz needs to seal the deal with the non-trump voters. and he's made some headway in that. the phil graham endorsement is significant. >> why? >> because people look to him as somebody that they would love to have his endorsement, somebody that they admire, especially on economics, a strong senator with a long history of public service. >> so make good with the so-called demonized establishment. >> and he can have people just voting against trump to help him. you have to voting for cruz for

a reason. he's going have to figure out a way to do it. >> what about his style? he's very preachy in his delivery and dramatic, and i understand that is for effect, but it can put a wall between you and your voters. >> that's true. this week you had a town hall with him, where it was just you and ted cruz, having a chat and it was a lot more accessible. i think because i had a chance one time to see him in a closed setting, that perhaps they could do some smaller groups where he is able to show that he can hang with people, like he's not the biggest nerd you ever knew, but he's super smart. his cadence, his speeches, at this point in the campaign, it's really hard to change. that's just the way they are. >> what about trump, what would you tell him? from now to july, you're trying to consolidate the republican party behind you. >> talk about being humble, i know he's not going to listen to

this advice in terms of what i would tell him to say or do, but i would hope his people would listen to this, i think that donald trump should spend an entire 24 hours alone, by himself, without electronics, and a chance to reflect and think and to walk around, to not have anybody picking on him and telling him what to do or say, where he can't react to people, he can't blame anyone. the presidency is a very lonely office. you are going to be alone making decisions and you're the only one that can make those decisions. doesn't matter how many advisers you have. but take some time to reflect and how do you want this campaign to move forward and spend a day, because it's exhausting. >> what would you tell some of these groups with whom he's struggling, women in particular? >> i think having his wife out there for the interview was fine, but no one is going to vote for you because of your wife, i don't think. i think they can help, they can

be a great person to have on your behalf, usually men marry up, so you want to showcase your wives. so that's good. i don't know exactly what he can do on women. so in some ways, that judgment call has already been made and it's really hard to turn around that perception. but i do think he can make some in roads with the african-american community and latinos. when he's talking about some of these messages about better economy, those guys aren't looking out for you, i would. >> that resonates across the board. >> i want your families to be safe, too. come over to my side, at least come and listen to me and will be more in listening mode than talking mode with those groups. he also has a huge problem with the youth vote. again, i'm not sure how he does that except if her going to add more campaign staff, i think that probably having some more people that could speak on his behalf that are appealing to

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bernie sanders big win in wisconsin last night marked the sixth vingt ri out of seven contests but despite that, experts say he faces a nearly impossible road to the nomination. trace gallagher has that report. trace? >> reporter: you know, going into the wisconsin primary, most polls showed bernie sanders leading hillary clinton by about 3 points so the victory certainly wasn't surprising. what was surprising is how fast the networks including fox news called it for sanders meaning he surpassed even the most promising polls and experts say the most troubling part of wisconsin for hillary clinton are the exit polls. take a look. among young voters, those under 45, sanders dominated by a margin of 73-26 and it did not

stop there. he also won among men, 64% to 35%. and in perhaps the biggest shock of all, bernie sanders took the female vote, by the narrowest of margins, but still a shocker. after the win, he highlighted the momentum of the campaign and pointed out he's leading donald trump by greater margins than clinton and clear not all good news for sanders. he lost black voters, 69% to 31% and as you point out, the delegate count makes it almost impossible to get the nomination but a year ago clinton led by 55 points in national polling, the night in wisconsin has got to give the clinton campaign pause. next up, by the way, two states with big delegate prizes, new york on april 19th rkt pennsylvania on the 26th. where clinton leads sanders by a

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tomorrow we have charles krauthammer and newt gingrich. let me know what you think about the shadow primary. this is "the kelly file." tonight -- >> tonight is a turning point. it is a rallying cry. >> after the cruz big win in wisconsin, the candidates turn attention to new york. we'll have the latest polls and get rae action from laura ingraham. then are we headed for a contested convention? buchanan said trump and cruz should unite and stop the establishment. he joins us tonight. i think we'll reach whatever number is required. >> plus is hillary clinton trying to steal the democratic nomination? we have a "hannity" special investigation. >> if we stay together, we'll bring about a day when there's no longer a price tag put on human li