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>> so spirited. that's going to do it for us on "fox report." i'm harris faulkner. thanks a lot for watching. noon eastern tomorrow for "outnumbered" and all during the week. right now, bret baier's special. when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. >> donald trump has been rewriting the rule book in politics. >> i don't know what i said. i don't remember! would like to pump him in the face, i'll tell you. >> and moved to the front of the pack doing it. >> they'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks. >> and people have punched back against him as well. >> [ bleep ]. >> could he be the future president? >> i hope he can save my job. >> i have a hard time imagining that the establishment would actually have the balls to do
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that. >> the country is going to start winning, winning, winning. >> or would he be a dead end for the republican party? >> you're fired. >> fox news reporting. "donald trump: the disrupter." here's bret baier. >> it's as improbable as it is entertaining. a celebrity/mogul who's never held office has seized the presidential election cycle. donald trump has done it by taking no prisoners, by always attacking. never retreating. by saying things no politics has ever said. and in doing so, he's changed the face of american politics. and somehow connected with the public in a way that few politicians ever have. we joined his campaign in early march at a moment that might have been called peak trump. he was riding high, going from victory to victory on a path that seemed to lead to a first ballot win at the republican convention. spirits were high. the schedule nonstop.
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though as with any such operation, there was a question looming in the background. is this campaign moving ever upward, or has it topped out? no one could answer that then, but we ran into some surprising incidents along the way. here's john roberts. >> march 11th. st. louis, missouri. donald trump is onstage. >> we're going to start winning again. we're going to win, we're going to win with military, we're going to win with our veterans, we're going to take care of them. >> he's in his element, delivering what he amounts to his version of a stump speech. >> we're going to take care of our second amendment. we're going to win with health care. we're going to win, win, win. we are going to make america great again. i love you all. thank you. thank you up there. >> and he does seem to love
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them. and they love him back. after the speech, the love fest continues as he wades into the crowd. his fans surrounding him. many clamoring for an autograph. trump's been at it for months. but this is something he never seems to tire of. in fact, meeting his fans face-to-face appears to enliven him. and to his exuberant supporters, finally here's a guy who gets it. someone who understands them. talks like them. thinks like them. they don't seem to mind the fact that, of course, he is most decidedly not one of them. it's the trump paradox, this connection to his core supporters that has been his biggest strength. trump's next stop is chicago, and to get him there is one of the most luxurious private jetliners in the world.
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at a 757 nicknamed trump force one. trump has joked if he's elected president, switching to air force one would be a step down. the plane can hold up to 43 passengers and overclassed first class leather seats, each with gold plaited seat belts and the trump family crest embroidered into the headrest. there's also a dining area, two bedrooms, a private bathroom with shower, and a main lounge with a 57-inch flat screen tv and multiplex movie system. that's where we sat for an interview. here's a picture of you and your father. roof of a building in 1973. >> that's right. >> if your father had been told when that picture was taken that one day his son would be the frontrunner for president of the united states, what do you think he'd say? >> well, he'd be very proud. "time" magazine. yeah. that's a nice picture. i remember that picture. it's the first time i ever had my picture on a magazine cover.
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he wouldn't have believed it, actually. it's been a very interesting process, the whole political process. i've learned so much. >> what have you learned about yourself? >> you have to be able to handle pressure. and i have -- in my life, my life has been a big pressure cooker. so i've always been through that. but political pressure is a little bit different. >> how so? >> it's coming at you very quickly. >> very personal? >> very personal. you know, i'd like to watch him -- do you mind, john? >> trump cut our interview short when ben carson popped up on that 57-inch flat screen tv. a former rival, carson is now supporting trump. >> why donald trump? >> because we have political operatives trying to manipulate the results. >> with a large delegate lead, and now ben carson's endorsement, it was a triumphant moment for trump. yet there were already warning signs. earlier that week, campaign
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manager corey lewandowski allegedly man handled a female reporter and the incident was getting a lot of attention. for the first time, it seemed trump was losing his grip on the news cycle. could it mean a candidacy that was flowing so high could lose altitude? everything seemed on track. no one could know what was in store would be the darkest moments of the campaign had yet seen. when we come back, we show you the outrageous journey of candidate trump, from long shot to frontrunner. and later, we bring you exclusive footage of the near riot on one of donald trump's campaign stops. is it a glimpse of things to come? this is joanne.
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when donald trump said he was running for president, the pundits had t a good laugh. but by the time they stopped chuckling, guess who was on top. >> my father, donald j. trump. >> it was an entrance that may have seemed more appropriate for a vegas act than a politician. but last june in trump tower, donald trump had something very important to say to america. >> ladies and gentlemen, i am officially running for president of the united states. and we are going to make our country great again. >> the 69-year-old billionaire real estate mogul had never held office. but now, he was going for all the marbles. beyond the announcement, one section of his speech got almost
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all the attention. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. and some i assume are good people. >> this was not how candidates normally spoke. pundits announced his campaign dead on arrival. >> how should republicans handle donald trump? >> ignore him. he's not going to win the republican nomination. >> i really don't think that it's what the republican party needs. >> when he started talking about mexico sending us their worst, rapists and drug dealers, and some of them may be okay, i turned to the person that i was with, somebody on the step, and i said we're in trouble. >> one of trump's opponents, senator lindsey graham, didn't like what trump was saying. but could sense where this was going. >> because i knew right then he was going to exploit the immigration issue, and that would mean that we're going down the wrong road when it comes to
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fixing this problem as a party. >> trump kept it up, banging the immigration drum. >> i will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and i will have mexico pay for that wall. mark my words. >> the line became fodder for countless punch lines. >> how are you going to deal with immigration? >> build a giant wall. >> okay. what about the economy? >> build a giant wall. >> yet his tough walk struck a chord. and his concerns seemed validated to many when on july 1st, in the sanctuary city of san francisco, 32-year-old kate steinly was shot dead by an illegal immigrant and repeat fellow, who had already been deported five times. by mid july, trump shot to the top of a crowded republican field. his free-wheeling style got the
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lion's share of media attention. for instance, no one makes fun of a war hero. except donald trump, here talking about john mccain. >> he's not a war hero. >> he's a war hero. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured, okay? i hate to tell you that. >> once again, the pundits counted him out. >> he needs to apologize, and it remains to be seen if he's got sense enough to do that. >> he's not going to be a viable candidate. you can't say the kinds of things like that over a period of time without crashing and burning. >> instead, his polling improved. >> everyone else, bing. >> what would make other candidates radioactive only seemed to make him stronger. there was the comment he made in "rolling stone" magazine about carly fiorina. he said, "look at that face. would anyone vote for that"? he even mocked a reporter's disability. >> written by a nice reporter. the poor guy -- you've got to see this guy.
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i don't know what i said. i don't remember. i don't remember. maybe that's what i said. >> but trump's position atop the polls remained firm. >> they say i have the most loyal people. you ever see that? where i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters. it's incredible. >> meanwhile, he was still taking political stances many considered extreme. in late november, he said he supported a database and surveillance for muslims in the u.s. >> yes, we have to look at mosques. we have no choice. we have to see what's happening. >> he was condemned for the statement. >> first amendment protects religious liberty and i spent the past decade defending the religious liberty of every american. >> once again, the news seemed to go his way. >> we're getting word from the fire department in the city of san bernardino that some 20 people having been shot in a
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mass shooting. >> on december 2nd, there was a terrorist attack by a muslim couple in san bernardino, california that killed 14 and injured 22. by year's end, trump had a 21-point lead in the polls. but it was 2016 that would truly test his candidacy. so far, it had been all talk, but now, it was the voters' turn to have their say. after a misstep in iowa where he lost to ted cruz. >> we finished second, and i want to tell you something. i'm just honored. i'm really honored. and i want to congratulate ted. >> trump recovered, taking three states in a row. new hampshire, south carolina, and nevada. >> of course, if you listen to the pundits, we weren't expected to win too much. and now we're winning, winning, winning. >> then on march 1st, super tuesday, he took seven out of 11 states. and trump, the candidate no one took seriously and who had been
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counted out regularly, was now the unquestioned frontrunner. the dwindling field turned their sights on him. but were they too late? he now seemed to be the only candidate with a clear path to victory on the first ballot at the republican convention. the campaign would go on. perhaps to the bitter end. but one thing had changed. no one would mock trump's chances again. donald trump didn't express himself like other politicians. but what mattered most was he seemed to be expressing the feelings of a lot of other americans. we'll talk to some of them next. tired of working for peanuts? well what if i told you that peanuts can work for you? that's right. i'm talking full time delivery of 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients. ever see a peanut take a day off? i don't think so. harness the hardworking power of the peanut.
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it's safe to say donald trump came as a surprise to the political and media class. this is partly because he seized upon issues that mattered deeply to a lot of americans, but weren't part of the conversation among the republican establishment. one such issue, trade. >> oh! >> from the start of his campaign, donald trump's economic populism had made him a favorite among white, working class voters. and then once again, it seemed that he had anticipated the news cycle when this cell phone video went viral last february. >> the best way to stay competitive and protect the business for long term is to move production from our facility in indianapolis to m o monimon mono -- monte ray mexico.
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>> it shows the moment when they were told their jobs would be shipped from indianapolis to mexico in 2017. >> we're moving. we're moving to monterrey, mechan mexico. it's like, really? >> mark weddle, who has worked at carrier for 24 years, was there when management made the announcement. >> i want to be clear, this is strictly a business decision. >> some people were hollering. some people were raising some cane. >> you heard one guy said "f you." >> david hartsock has worked at carrier for 14 years. >> and that one guy really said it all for everybody. >> i looked up, i heard somebody crying. my friend sheryl, she's crying. it just devastated her. >> i was basically numb. i just didn't know what the hell
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to think. >> just days later during the cbs news gop debate, donald trump was the only candidate to speak about the mass layoff. >> all of these 1,400 people that are being laid off, they were crying, it was a very sad situation. >> he explained what he would do to carrier if he was elected president. >> i am going to get consensus from congress, and we're going to tax you. so stay where you are or build in the united states. >> that sort of talk directly contradicted decades of republican thinking on free trade. >> i did catch that on the news, that he brought up carrier. i thought hell yeah, about time somebody says something. >> though mark weddle is a democrat and union member, this time around, he's supporting trump. >> i believe the entire political system is going to be different from now on. it needs to be changed. nothing gets done. nothing happens that benefits the american people. it's benefiting somebody else. >> this election is very important to everybody.
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not just me. but to everybody. and we've got to start doing something. >> if we let everybody go to mexico, we're not going to have any jobs for our grandchildren. >> i think everybody's just mad and they got fed up with the government letting things like this happen. >> i appreciate any candidate that's going to do more to keep jobs in america. >> i hope he can save my job. and everybody else's job that's in the same situation. this is not the first factory that's closed down. >> another example is niagara ceramics in buffalo, new york, which closed in 2013. >> it was just impossible for us to compete with the foreign market. asia in particular. >> joe bronco was the vice president. >> very difficult for us to manufacture a product in the usa, and dollarser piece more
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than you could buy it for landed at a port on either coast. >> today, the old warehouse feels almost haunted. not by ghosts. but by memories of when the factory employed more than 400 skilled workers. >> it was so unexpected, and they really only told us we were going to have a two-week shutdown. and at the end of the two weeks, we all got a phone call saying do not return. >> we all -- as slowly as we could, to try to stay operational. and we just couldn't do it. we couldn't hold on. it was one of the saddest points of my life, to be completely honest with you, because we've had hundreds of families suddenly without work. >> bronco was down, but not out. he's opened a new ceramics facility in rochester, new york, called north star ceramics. much smaller, but greing. and he's hired back some of his
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original employees.owing. and he's hired back some of his original employees. >> skilled craft is definitely what we need here. without that, it would be very difficult for us to compete in this market. >> bronco may be management, but he agrees with the employees we saw earlier. >> donald trump made it very clear that we've made some bad trade deals, and they're affecting businesses like me today, and we are definitely not working on a level playing field. >> he believes that trump has the know-how to help the economy expand. >> the fact that donald trump is a businessman is playing a huge factor in my support of him. i mean, he understands what it's like to be where i am. in a much larger scale. >> how did you decide to support trump? at what point did you say this is the candidate i want to get behind? >> well, i started out as a jeb bush supporter, the chief executive of the state of florida. and when all the dust settled and jeb's campaign never caught
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fire and he withdrew, i looked at who was standing and there was donald trump. >> before he enters politics, new york congressman chris collins was personally involved in securing funding that kept niagara ceramics afloat for several years. >> i experienced that, trying to save the jobs we could save. in my case, partnering with a management team and thinking as an entrepreneurial smaller company, we could compete with the chinese, but it was just unrelenting. >> that firsthand experience is one reason he became the first sitting member of congress to endorse trump. and is now one of his official emissaries to capitol hill. >> people get behind a winner, which is mr. trump. >> you think he'll bring new voters in? >> you're seeing him register. he's going to cross over very strongly into the independent vote, but also the working blue collar vote, if you will. many of those living in my district in western new york. >> so you're saying he speaks the language of the blue collar middle class worker? >> it speaks to getting the jobs
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back that were stolen by china and mexico. devastated new york state. much of what we call the rust belt. and a lot of folks say when is enough enough? that's the language donald trump is speaking. >> with his views on trade, donald trump blasted wide open a fault line in republican and indeed american politics. it may not be surprising that the frustrations and even anger at the working man have played such a large role in this election cycle. but how is it this that this celebrity billionaire of all candidates came to be the one who tapped into those powerful currents? that's next. currents? that's next. 72% of women say they often
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historians will someday write about donald trump's run for president. but to those who thought his candidacy came out of nowhere, there's actually a lot of history leading up to it. in fact, a whole lifetime's worth. here's martha mccallum. >> donald john trump, son of fred and mary trump, was born on june 14th, 1946 in queens, new york. fred was a real estate developer specializing in middle income apartments. young donald grew up around building sites and construction workers. but he had a rebellious streak, and fred was a no-nonsense father. >> his parents sent him off to a military school to get more discipline. why did they do that? what happened there? >> a lot of type a in the trump family. a lot of type a personality. but he was always a good kid. never got in too much trouble. but probably had a rambunctious side. >> eric trump is donald's 32-year-old son. >> my father often says military
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school was the best thing that ever happened to him. >> sort of a new york military acade academy. >> i also spoke to the 38-year-old donald jr. >> it was a great way to get him on the right track and to focus. and i think i see that discipline today in the way he carries about his business dealings and things he doesn't like. >> trump followed his father into real estate. in 1971, he was given full control of the family company, which he renamed the trump organization. but trump wasn't your average real estate developer. he had a taste for the spotlight. and became a celebrity of sorts, regularly seen on the town with a beautiful woman on his arm. in 1977, he married ivana, a fashion model from czechoslovakia. together they became an inescapable part of the manhattan scene. in 1983, trump opened his flagship building on fifth avenue, trump tower. in 1987, he published his best-seller, "the art of the
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deal." trump had become a national figure. you never knew where he would show up next. >> excuse me, where's the lobby? >> down the hall and to the left. >> thanks. >> way back then, mike dunbar, a gop activist from new hampshire saw political promise in the billionaire. >> so that's why i started a draft trump campaign. >> so in october 1987 in portsmouth, new hampshire, as people waved trump for president signs, donald trump made his first campaign speech. speaking without notes, he hit on some of the same economic ideas that have made him the frontrunner today. >> the message in 1987 didn't change, just the players. back then it was japan and saudi arabia. today it's china and mexico. we're still getting our lunch eaten by our trading partners and the people who are hurting are people like me, people who work for a living. we're the ones who are feeling it. so trump appeals to us. >> after the speech, they left
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the restaurant and moved trump to a nearby press conference. >> and i had to get him from the speaker's podium to a side door, which was a pretty good distance. and as we moved along, he kept stopping, shaking hands with the weight staff, with the cops, and the firemen who were there. he ignored all the other people wearing the suits, but it was the common man that attracted donald trump, and that he reached out to. and i think that's what's happening today. he's still reaching out to us, not to the guys in the suits. >> he didn't run back then, but the seed had been planted. >> the taj will be, in my opinion, the most spectacular building ever built in this country. >> in the '90s, his business ventures had some ups and downs, and so did his love life. >> we have a great relationship. we've always had a great relationship. it's fine. >> he and ivana had a very
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public divorce in 1991. he then married actress marla maples in '93. >> well, i think it was just the relationship that was happening. >> and divorced her in '99. in 2004, his profile rose as never before when he became the star of nbc's hit show "the apprentice." >> you're fired. you're fired. you're fired. you know what? summer, you're fired. >> and he married his present day wife melania in 2005. but trump never stopped thinking about politics. and as he entered his '60s, if he was serious about a run, he could no longer play the waiting game. we asked kelly ann conway to do some research, to see where he would stand in the 2012 race. >> what was missing for many republican voters in 2011 was somebody who was not a typical
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politician. somebody who would be an outsider to the system in washington, but also somebody who would not completely unfamiliar to them. >> his role on "the apprentice" made him appealing to many voters. >> he was a decidedly anti-political leadership role for him, and they tuned in every week to see what he would say. >> but 2012 wasn't his year. instead, he endorsed republican candidate mitt romney, another businessman who sold himself as someone who could get things done. but when romney lost, it was now or never for trump. he started to put together a staff. he also started connecting with conservative media outlets and organizations. he gave speeches at places like cpac. >> i'm not doing this for fun. i'm doing it because we have to take our country back. >> but still, people wondered if he would really pull the trigger. >> and he goes, you know, kids, i'm going to do this. >> there were two people who
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knew he was serious. for a while, people didn't take your dad's presidential aspirations seriously. >> i could see he was getting frustrated. i could really tell he was getting frustrated. he would open up the paper and see $19 trillion worth of debt. he was frustrated. >> when he spent time speaking at cpac and getting himself deeper into the circles of conservatism and the republican party, did he get the sense that he could sort of outsmart the way the operation works? >> i don't think it's about outsmarting the operation. he just bypassed all of that. he went right to the people. >> one person he met with early in 2015, newt gingrich. >> we got together for breakfast, and for i'd say 45 minutes, he asked very probing, intelligent questions about, you know, what does it take physically and how do you schedule it and how do you balance yourself? what would it cost from january of 2015 through south carolina? and i said probably between $70 million and $80 million. he thought for a minute, and he said a yacht.
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so this would be more interesting than a yacht. i sort of thought at that point he's going. >> by the time trump announced his run, he was ready. the rest of the candidates may not have been ready for him, but his public was. >> it's not a campaign anymore. it's a movement. people are following him because they finally feel like they have that voice again. >> when we last saw donald trump on the campan trail, he was on his way to a rally, flying thousands of feet above the ground. but it wasn't until he landed that he hit some real turbulence. real real tu
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chicago is known as the windy city. so maybe it shouldn't be a big surprise that this is where donald trump's campaign ran into a real cyclone. once again, john roberts. >> when we left donald trump on the campaign trail, he had just landed in chicago for another big rally. little did he know he was heading into a buzz saw. >> we want trump! >> the qualities in candidate trump that inspired such enthusiasm among his supporters also stirred hostility in almost equal measure. among those who opposed him, an all-star chicago leftist activism bill ayers. >> trump has galvanized a feeling that there's something loose in the land, and that something is dangerous, and it's
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absolutely anti-american, and it has to be avoided. >> in chicago, trump protesters were so well-organized, so determined to disrupt that trump did something unique for him. he backed off and canceled the event. >> for the safety of all the tens of thousands of people that have gathered in and around the arena, tonight's rally will be postponed until another date. >> [ bleep ] . [ crowd chanting ] >> it's not like protests were anything new at a trump rally. in fact, they had come to be a
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rel featu regular feature at trump events. >> get him out. >> get her out, please. >> out, out, out, out. i'd like to punch him in the face, i tell you. i promise you, i will pay for the legal fees. you know what they used to do to guys like that? they'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks. >> but the chicago protesters took it to a new level and claimed victory. as bill ayers promised, it was just the beginning. >> what this represents is fire from below. that's why it's important. >> what happened that night in chicago followed the controversy involving campaign manager corey lewandowski earlier in the week, and opened the trump campaign up to charges, fair or not, that there was an undercurrent of violence inherent in trump's candidacy. >> donald trump's campaign rally had been canceled out of fear of violence. >> people are actually concerned that somebody might get seriously, seriously injured before this is all over.
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>> you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence. you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discipline. >> and it lasted through the weekend as he went today ton, ohio.ord. >> and it lasted through the weekend as he went today ton, ohio. trump's response was characteristically blunt. >> hillary was saying, donald trump has to stop the rhetoric. he has to stop it. and my people are great. it's these people that are the problem. >> chicago was a crazy time for the trump candidacy. but he would soon find out there was more trouble ahead. amazin prune juice to stay fit on the inside? it's made only from prunes, nothing else. it's a natural source of fiber and five essential vitamins. amazin prune juice and amazin prune light. from sunsweet, the feel good fruit.
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it's been said april is the cruellest month. it sure has seemed that way for donald trump. as march touched into april, the trump campaign was still front page news. but he seemed less and less in control of the message. on march 23rd, trump retweeted a photo of his wife melania next to a less complimentary photo of ted cruz's wife heidi. >> i thought it was a nice picture of heidi. i thought it was fine. >> on march 29th, campaign manager corey lewandowski was charged with misdemeanor battery for the incident where he grabbed a female reporter. >> if you look at the tape, what did corey lewandowski do? am i supposed to be loyal to a
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person, or because somebody filed something? >> then in a march 30th town hall meeting, answering a hypothetical question, trump said women who have abortions should be punished if the procedure was banned. >> there has to be some form of punishment. >> to the woman? >> yeah. >> and later seemed to change his position on the issue more than once. if woman? >> yeah. >> reporter: and later seemed to change his position on the issue more than once. if these stories have more than one thing in common, is that they all have the capacity to hurt trump, particularly with female voters. >> you called the women you don't like pat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. >> i'm not a fan of meighan kelly, i don't like her. >> reporter: as we have seen, this isn't the first time trump had woman problems. she was asked about the gender gap among voters. >> i think i'm going to do great with women. >> people wondered your feud with meighan kelly. you sent out tweets about her, nine of which you said she's
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crazy. >> i have nothing against meighan. in the last debate i said she treated me fairly, although she she should have given the letter i gave her. she's very nasty to me and she doesn't treat me fairly. i can sit back and take it or i can let people understand or let people know. i don't like discussing meighan because i have other things to talk about that are much more important. i don't want to talk about meighan. >> trump didn't want to talk about meighan then, but would all these incidents have a cumulative effect? >> mr. trump now in 2016 is facing a different kind of headwind that he's not faced since the beginning of his candidacy. people are now starting to wonder if this guy whose entire narrative is built on winning can actually win in the fall. >> reporter: one test of that proposition came in wisconsin where trump lost by double digits. and this time, no televised appearance for trump. instead his campaign issued a statement saying, quote, lyin'
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ted cruz was being used by party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from mr. trump. was this a turning point in his campaign? to someone like lindsey graham, trump supporters needed a reality check. >> this idea that somehow mr. trump is going to bring in democratic voters to override his collapse with hispanics and young women is just foolish. so you can sugar coat this any way you want. if we nominate donald trump, we're going to lose, it's going to cost us the senate and put the house in jeopardy. almost anybody else wins the election. >> but before anything else, trump has to win the nomination. and it's looking more and more likely that there will be a contested convention. trump supporters fear the republican establishment will conspire to deny him the nomination. >> i have a hard time imagining that the establishment would
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actually have the balls to do that, but the fact we're talking about it is an indication of how con te contemptuous they are of regular folk. >> reporter: if he does become the nominee, many advise he'll have to pivot, not be the man he's been during the campaign so far. >> the very habits that got him to here aren't the habits that are going to get him into the presidency. he's got to almost double the size of that base by attracting people who currently are very suspicious of him. he will not attract them if he continues the current, you know, sort of twitter sl, slugging it out, terrific in a bar but not very clever. >> reporter: reemerge ng he mem home state, trump canceled a campaign rally in new york where
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he now needed to win convincingly. based on my conversation with chris collins, the first member of congress to endorse trump, even his supporters might have to maintain a certain distance while waiting for a different sort of trump to emerge. you're against mass deportation, you're against banning muslims, even temporarily, from entering the country. it sounds like even though you're endorsing mr. trump, you are distancing himself from him in some aspects. >> well, i think it's always safe to say we can agree at a top level. i don't think i'm that far away from mr. trump. >> reporter: is it realistic to build a wall along the southern border? >> there are parts of it which we have to do, and whether it's a physical wall, a rhetorical wall, it starts with immigration reform as far as e-verify and making sure the folks that need the workers where they can't get americans to do the work, like the dairy farmers, they have a method with visas to fill those jobs. >> reporter: yeah, it's just
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different sounding than, we're going to build a wall and mexico is going to pay for it. >> it's a different-sounding -- >> answer. >> -- answer. >> reporter: and the ban on muslims? >> we need to keep america safe. if we don't know who is coming across the border, they can't come in, but certainly i wouldn't ban muslims for being muslim. >> reporter: and you think that will be accepted if he becomes president? >> i know it's not realistic to take more than 1200 people and put them into a bus and take them across the border. >> reporter: is it fair to say that people who support donald trump see in him what they want to see in him? >> they see in him a leader, a leader who speaks directly, now let's get the experts together and move. >> reporter: love him or hate him, trump has always been his own man.
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right now there are a lot of considerations pulling him in different directions. the question at present is which direction he will choose. is it the one that leads him to the white house or merely back to a billionaire's life of luxury? it's not easy to talk about donald trump. for one thing, he's such a polarizing figure that no matter what you say, you're likely to be called some unpleasant names. but there are a few things we can say about him. first, he's a true political phenomenon, unlike anything we've ever seen. a businessman who was able to all but take over a party with its establishment in open war against him. second, that he's filled a niche and he's attracted a loyal following that believes this country has seriously gone off the rails. third, that while he is popular with his base, polls show him consistently to be the candidate
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