>> we're back in an hour. "outnumbered" starts now. ♪ andrea: this is "outnumbered." i'm andrea tanteros. here today is harris faulkner, sandra smith, host of fox business "kennedy," kennedy. house homeland security committee member, 12-term new york congressman, peter king is here for the first time. congressman, you're "outnumbered." >> four lucky women. you got me. this is much classier, absolutely. great to be here. andrea: we're looking forward to

your political expertise especially here in the empire state because one week from tomorrow, new yorkers will head to the polls for a crucial primary, and a new "fox news poll" shows that donald trump has a commanding lead on the republican side. the billionaire businessman getting 54% of support from new york republicans. followed by john kasich and ted cruz. this as some big controversy is brewing over the primary process itself. trump blasting it of a cruz swept all of colorado's 34 pledged delegates without any votes being cast in a traditional primary or caucus. instead colorado use as complex, month-long series of state and local conventions. watch. >> we've got a corrupt system. it is not right. we're supposed to be a democracy. we're supposed to be, we're supposed to be, you vote and the vote means something. all right? you vote, and the vote means something.

we've got to do something about it. andrea: in the meantime his newly minted convention manager took a shot at cruz in the fight over delegate support, comparing the texas senator's campaign to nazi germany's notorious secret police. >> you go to these county conventions you see the tactics, gestapo tactics, scorch earth tactics. >> gestapo tactics? that is strong world. >> we'll filing several protests because they're not playing by the rules. andrea: cruz campaign dismissing those complaint as sour grapes. who is right about this, congressman. trump says we have a democracy, we actually have a republic. does he have a point that the establishment has a corrupt process playing out in front of our eyes. >> it is not corrupt unless something went on in colorado i don't know of. i'm not aware of the details on the ground. this is the convention process, nominating process has most part

most of the years. only 30, 40 years primaries played a big role. i see role party leaders have a little more say than is democratically required. if colorado they give all their votes to cruz,that create as backlash. this plays into donald trump's hands. he may have lost that anyway but to give all the votes to cruz, i think that gives donald trump a weapon to use in other states to show how he is really getting a raw deal from the establishment. andrea: are you concerned about the future of the republican party if it is perceived this was stolen from donald trump? and if his supporters believe as he said this is corrupt? >> i think the party is split no matter how this comes out. donald trump will not have support of more than half the party. even if he gets nomination, there will be more opposition to him than any other nominee but there is no real alternative at this stage either. if he can show, give impression he is being robbed it will have big impact on the party in november. andrea: can i get to our numbers girl, sandra smith over there? sandra: sure.

andrea: look at math, trump leads the republican field with 756 delegates, which is 45% roughly of all the total delegates awarded to date but he has won 37% of the votes. so he is actually doing pretty well. sandra: one of the first states we heard him start to speak out and say the process isn't fair, it's not working was louisiana where he won by a small margin but, then when he came out and talked about the fact he could end up with fewer delegates than cruz, because now, looking at marco rubio delegates, he will likely receive five delegates marco rubio left behind and states under bound delegates. what do you say, congressman, to the american people, even though you say is not corrupt and working the way it is supposed to be they're so frustrated because they do worry their voice isn't being heard and their vote doesn't count? >> politics is not simple. it is not easy. democracy is not simple and easy. they have the checks and balances throughout the system. donald trump any place his

campaign has not worked get aground game in individual states are concerned. bringing in manafort is big help. he was relying on four or five people around him and getting television and doing well in primaries. having a great media image. i give him credit. sandra: manafort will be running a more traditional campaign. donald trump's supporters wonder what that looks like. his campaign strategy is anything but normal. >> if donald trump wants to succeed he has to do it personalitywise. if he starts reading speeches off a teleprompter who needs donald trump. he is sort of in the middle where he maintains spirit as possible, maybe tone it down a bit. harris: what paul manafort and others he has out there as surrogates, paul manafort is specifically for the convention delegates, what he will afford donald trump that separation. he can continue to be who he is

and have other bigger voices speak. my question has to do with the timing of this. we knew donald trump didn't necessarily have a ground game in iowa. in south carolina owe didn't get all the delegates he should have, this is part of ground game i don't think he didn't study. it isn't that he didn't have it, he didn't know to have it, which is different. my question to you, congressman, is there enough time left for manafort and other assets donald trump is aligning to catch up in terms of delegates that ted cruz is kind of collecting in the chateaus? >> the advantage he has ted cruz is not popular with many people. he is like the trump alternative. harris: but delegates doing what he wants them to do. >> if trump can get his act together. harris: on third time? >> because cruz does not have any really base of love in the republican party. he gets people who want to stop trump. harris: have they succeeded taking some of the wind out of his sails? >> oh, definitely, yeah. >> what is interesting here, you

look at aspects of different races. and for the trump campaign it has been using media to his advantage and getting all of that free publicity. that is where he spent his energy. some defunct campaigns like bush and rubio, they spent a lot of money on tv. that didn't get traction. ted cruz spent most money on infrastructure. that is big investment and silent investment and working dealt gates and reading rules. you talk about trump reading speeches, maybe his team should have been reading fine print in states like colorado and where cruz is coming out on top. andrea: a lot of people don't like ted cruz. there is that argument. there is also the argument people don't like donald trump. you hear both sides, donald trump is elected he can never win a yen. you hear what people said, people don't like ted cruz. if either men advances one of them will, what happens to their support? >> i can't see, again, unless it

is really close, unless trump is really close i can't see enough cruz supporters going to trump to put him over. andrea: vice versa. >> exactly vice versa. this is, there is really no precedent going into a convention where no one is popular choice, no one is beloved. sometimes you have somebody strong and loved. in this case neither one is loved. if anybody has emotional support would be trump. he has emotional opposition to him. cruz is not, again, i'm not a ted cruz fan. having said that, cruz is politically, does not have any loyal, loving base he can fall back on. andrea: will you endorse donald trump. >> i don't intend to support anybody before the convention. harris: what if it is contested convention? >> it could well be. i think i can give a lot of reasons donald trump has made serious statements as far as i'm concerned. ted cruz i don't like working with him washington. kasich is the most popular but

but he is not available. andrea: why don't you like working with ted cruz. >> government shutdown and questioning people's motives. he knew from the start it wasn't going to work. he told house republicans not me, i never believed him, you block it in the house, get it to me in the senate i will be able to stop obamacare. it goes to the senate. he reads dr. suess on the senate floor. andrea: how do you think he did isn't. >> playing on in some ways what donald trump is doing. he knows american people are not happy with congress and washington. he will be the white knight, loan ranger, whatever you want to call him standing up to corruption in washington. the only honest man. harris: those are two difficult subjects, "the lone ranger" the white knight. those are two different images. it is interesting, looks like you won't endorse anybody before the convention but my question for you are we looking at man who you think will be the nominee among these three or do you think there is still room for somebody to come in at that convention?

>> there could be room but it is hard for someone to come in -- there is no war hero out there and again shining knight to use another example, no one out there who will be, i don't know who -- people mentioned paul ryan. he is only possibility i can see. harris: has a whole facebook campaign now. you have probably seen that, new leadership on facebook. >> i get it every day. harris: okay. andrea: kennedy if that would happen, if they push somebody else you will have disaffected cruz and trump supporters which means what, president clinton? >> look at the voters who are not invested in the republican party. look at people who are really on the outside just starting to pay attention. they look, this guy wasn't even running for president. why should i vote for someone like that. andrea: or speaker. >> exactly. what is it going to be next? drafted to miss universe? sandra: by the way i can't help it while sitting on sofa with four women, gender gap identified, problem with women in the republican party, is it getting any better?

still look at stats here today, gender gap in trump support. he is favorite among 59% of men, 49% of women. >> donald trump in some cases his own worst enemy. he said things that are not politically correct when it comes to women. we do have a gender gap. a lot is done by the media. a lot done by our own incapacity, no one can say right thing. i think women love me, but what can i tell you. andrea: i know four that do. >> i'll quit now. andrea: don't forget to tune into "the o'reilly factor" tonight for a special interview with donald trump himself. that is tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on the fox news channel. president obama defending hillary clinton in her email scandal again, saying he believes she did not jeopardize national security but what about the evidence that her unsecured blackberry was vulnerable to hackers on overseas trips? plus who could forget this.

in the aftermath of the brussels terror attacks the president enjoying a baseball game in cuba and dancing the tango in argentina. despite those optics, mr. obama now says that he has done more to fight terrorism than any other president. we'll talk about that with congressman king. right after the show catch more from the couch on the webb. join us for "outnumbered overtime," log on to foxnews.com, do you hear that harris is already on, she really is. sandra: she is. andrea: fire off your questions for the congressman. we'll be taking them. ♪ ♪ sometimes, maybe too hard. get claimrateguard® from allstate. it helps keep your homeowners' rate from going up just because of a claim. call an allstate agent first. 888-429-5722. accident forgiveness from allstate will keep his rates from going up.

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♪ sandra: president obama defending hillary clinton as email scandal continues to dog her campaign. the president suggesting to our own chris wallace, that clinton's use of a private server as secr not make the nation's secrets vulnerable to hackers. >> i continue to believe she has not jeopardized america's national security. what i also said, is that, and she as acknowledged there's, a carelessness in terms of managing emails that she has owned and she recognizes.

sandra: despite openly giving his opinion about the case, the president maintains politics will not play a role in the investigation. >> i guarranty that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the justice department or the fbi, not just in this case, but in any case. >> she will be -- >> full stop, period. >> she will be treated no different -- >> guaranteed, full stop, nobody gets treated differently from the justice department because nobody is above the law. >> even if she ends up as democratic nominee? >> how many times do i have to say it, chris? , guaranteed. sandra: hold on congressman, he gives us the case what went down but there will be no political influence on this, the investigation. >> the fact as president of the united states he is talking to the justice department. he is talking to the fbi. sandra: sending a message. >> that is clearly a signal he does not want hillary clinton to have any, be indicted, have any legal issue at all, even with

the fbi make a report or recommendation or referral but jim comey is pretty independent guy. they ever taking this seriously. despite the image out there, it was classified later on technically? sandra: yes. >> i was on the intelligence committee. there is information in the emails that puts lives at risk. this is not something, this is information anyone would have known is top secret and should not have been on a private server this is very serious. sandra: harris, in the same interview with chris wallace, president obama alluded to the idea or made this distinction between what is classified and what is not really classified. listen to this. >> hillary clinton was an outstanding of secretary of state. she would never intentionally put america in any kind of jeopardy. and what i also know, because i handle a lot of classified information is that there are, there is classified and then there is classified. there's stuff that is really top

secret, top secret, and there is stuff that is being presented to the president or the secretary of state that you might not want on the transom or, you know, going out over the wire but basically stuff that you could get in open source. harris: i'm glad he is not an ob/gyn, there is no such thing as being a little pregnant there. is pregnant and there is really pregnant. there is classified and really classified. congressman, just moments ago, you should look, she should have known what it was. you know what it is. it is born evidence, it is born classified. >> right. harris: people in this position should know about it. she had a course on it. she i assume passed course. everybody has it. >> it was really, really classified. harris: not a little pregnant? >> no. this is the real deal. other stuff maybe technical but there was enough there, enough series items she allowed to go back and forth and possibly subject to being intercepted

that could very well put lives at risk this is serious stuff. sandra: his only real concession, kennedy, carelessness with managing emails. >> it foes beyond carelessness. you're talking about top, very top level of classification on 22 of those emails. when president talks about there is classified, then there is classified, i would think 22 emails fall into the latter of being classified. making a distinction. what is the president seeing on his desk? how is he being briefed? what does he have access to? is this the reason hillary clinton cackles like a hyena every time she is asked about the email scandal and says nothing it going to happen with it. it is ridiculous. it's a republican witch-hunt because she knows that the president is providing her with a level of cover when he glows out and blow as dog whistle with chris wallace? it is clearly offensive. sandra: he clearly reached a level of frustration in the conversation with chris. andrea: i don't know why.

he is still not answer question. hillary clinton said if see used her blackberry that was not secure traveling abroad it could be, it would be breached. those are her own words. by using it, which she did, each time is felony count. every time she sent or received an email. so that is separate issue from the emails. that is whole other issue. what i don't understand all of sudden this flexible interpretation and application of the law. under the obama administration, they cherry-pick what they want to interpret, what they want to interpret classified, non-classified. they didn't take that stance with general petraeus, did they? there was classified, period. that was it. sandra, this is troubling, this is second time in interview the president given her cover. even though he says, the investigation is going to be fair, he is saying the investigation, i agree, i think the fbi, the group investigating her will be fair. that is the not question. the question is, will loretta lynch be corrupted? will he influence her? forget the fbi. only thing that matters is whether or not the doj will

recommend those charges. harris: congressman, would you consider what the president did in this interview actually commenting on an ongoing investigation which is something he said he would not do. >> let me just say, i knew loretta lynch when she was here in brooklyn. i think she is pretty straight arrow too. harris: everybody has said that. >> she is not eric holder, put it that way. he shouldn't be doing it. shouldn't be putting people in that position. yes, i say he center fearing in the investigation. sandra: where do you see this ending up? i honestly don't know. if he wants to take legal action he can. comey has to make the initial decision, does it rise to the level to warrant criminal prosecution. sandra: we all continue to ask the question why this doesn't impact her more politically, kennedy, with her still clearly front-runner on democratic side? >> i think it does, losing seven of eight primary contests and caucuses i think it is having direct effect.

it is not affecting her delegate count. donald trump talks about corruption, that the superdelegate on the democratic side is absolutely confounding. if it were more transparent on that side you would see more fallout. sandra: cia director john brennan speaking out about the agency's past use of waterboarding. despite what is being said on campaign trail, the agency will not resort to that kind of interrogation in the future, even if directed by a future president. so is the director making the right call here? and what happens if the next president is someone who issues such an order? plus, president obama defending the way he has responded personally to recent terror attacks, including doing the wave at a ball game in cuba last month after the brussels bombings. what he said and whether it is enough for the american people. ♪

♪ >> i would not agree to having any cia officer carrying out waterboarding again. harris: that was cia director john brennan, saying his agency will not engage in waterboarding even if the next president of the united states orders the agency to do so. after republican presidential candidates donald trump and ted cruz repeatedly suggested on the campaign trail they would reinstate that practice. trump has added he would bring back waterboarding and quote, a hell of a lot worse to get information from terrorists. here is what he thinks of the cia director's comments. >> they chop off heads and they drown people in cages with 50 in a cage, in big steel, heavy cages, drop them right into the water, drown people. and we can't waterboard and we can't do anything. we're playing on different fields. we have a huge problem with isis we can't beat. the reason we can't beat them because we won't use strong tactics, whether this or other things. harris: a little surprising brennan would to there given his

history with the whole waterboarding history we have to use that word twice in one sentence. >> i don't feel waterboard something torture. second it only three times it was useds president makes a big thing out of it. it was led directly to the capture and killing of bin laden. waterboarding is effective. only used in rare circumstance. to me it is necessary tool. john brennan was in cia while it was happening. he said he was opposed to it all along. no record him ever saying that. because president obama made a big thing about george w. bush torturing everyone how he would end torture even though this is not torture, john brennan feels compelled to stand with the president. i wouldn't want enemy -- let them think we'll do everything. sandra: even if this is our tactic, why are we saying it out loud? harris: kennedy, seems like at this high level odd to see politics come into play. if the congressman is right and that is really what is happening

here, you would want those types of decisions not to be made with the filter of politics? >> i also think that waterboarding isn't the most important issue when we're talking about foreign policy, national security and isis. mike baker, who was a cia agent talked about that you know it is actually a huge distraction. this is not something, terrorists are not ready to blow themselves up in soccer stadiums and with bombs second-guessing themselves because they might be tortured or ward boarded. this is big distraction. is brennan, taunting trump, doesn't want this job with the next administration? what kind of a cia director put donald trump put forth? harris: basically andrea he followed the order with the previous administration but if there is another administration would give an order to do something like waterboarding or something else, brennan is saying he would not follow order. andrea: brennan is say he can't defy the president of the united states? he can't do that.

president obama administration loves to flout the law and chain of command and protocol. cia director can not defy the president united states an he won't have to worry about that because unlikely he has the job with a cruz or trump administration. they deemed. eits, enhanced interrogation tactics water boarding as legal. the holder justice department said they are legal. why is brennan having a change of heart? >> first he claimed he was against it even if it was legal, that is what he said during the confirmation hearings. president made a big thing out of this. he talked about torture but the justice department didn't prosecute cia officials involved. harris: they were going to. but then their own administration said they can't. they're legal. >> yeah. i don't know, president is trying to have both ways. made emotional argument. made it around the world. going overseas doesn't allow torture the way george bush did.

that is administration feels locked in. i support use of drones. why is it okay to blows a person to pieces and member of his family with him but not okay to put afy under water. andrea: good point. sandra: responding to this same subject matter this, is aimed at republicans. the message is the republicans want to torture. vote for good guys, vote for democrats. do you think this further pushes trump and cruz with their calls or at least trump for that matter to go further than waterboarding as he has suggested he would do? >> i don't know why he said that he doesn't have to do it. say he will do what has to be done and leave it at that. say waterboard something not torture. you go to the average

going golfing, doing the tango. they know the optics. doing the dip with this florida messenger codancer to show terrorists he would not get off the schedule. harris: my question follows up. if you have a plan to take out enemy why in the world would you care what they think how you spend social time. why would you ever think that you could change the way that they would act based on you dancing, going to a ball game? if you really had a game to knock them out, what you do during public or private time shouldn't matter. why doesn't he fight the enemy with more after plan, not worry what he thinks if he out dancing? >> us lamist terrorist is evil. perversion of religion and part

after certain religious belief. he thinks if we are nice to each other it will work out. belgium is our ally. suppose after 9/11 attack, tony blair went to cricket match or out dancing. harris: optics would be horrible. >> that is the whole point. belgium, he owed i had to them, the belgians we're standing with you. we're all belgians today. harris: we know he misses on optics because he didn't go to france after "charlie hebdo" attack. >> he feels self-conscious about this he think that is overreaction. he think that is american paranoia. so as. like imperialistic attitude we have as americans. we step back, be nice to the other guy, it will work out. sandra: congressman said doing so, before terrorist attacks before they surface. inned addition republican leaders and military lead, general jack keane said we still have administration not willing to name and identify the enemy. how important is that on your to-do list as far as fighting

terror to say the the words, isc extremism? >> i could never disagree with jack keane. he is brilliant and genius. totally right. islamic terrorism and islamic extremism, by the president not worrying about seeing that, when the enemy sees that they feel we're weak. andrea: want to go about something we talked about in the last block, telegraphing them what we're going to do. why do we let them know we get rid of these enhanced interrogation tactics? this goes to the broad them theme. he advertises everything we will do. the administration is considering sending more special operations to syria. why would we telegraph that? just the week before, the administration, says al-baghdadi we're coming for you. why do they continue to telegraph and let everything we're doing playing out in the media? >> like people in cubicles start moving papers around on the desks when the boss walks by. i think he should look busy so

looks like he is a strategist because we know that he is not naturally. i mean he certainly doesn't have any discernible human emotion, like empathy, because if he did, if he were empathetic for i don't know, james foley's family or country of belgium, then perhaps, i don't think there would be a lot of people in the united states upset with the president for missing a tampa bay rays baseball game in cuba. but they're are a lot of people, why didn't you create a bit of a confab with some of your advisors and look important, doing that and, you know, maybe at least projecting that you care, that you've got a handle on the situation? i think again it speaks to he's got appa i this at the end of his second term and you know that he doesn't have to work for votes anymore. what he is working for? i guess baseball and dancing. harris: he opened the door on the whole thing with emotions. shows he has care for what the enemy is thinking, and what you gave examples, does he care for what the american people are

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♪ harris: little bit of audacity and bra vowed dough with this. foreign minister of iran defying the u.s. saying the missile program is not up for negotiation. >> translator: both johner kerry and united states are aware that iran's missile defense capabilities are non-nextable. harris: in response to state state jon kerry and u.s. and -- iran recently as you know, we've been reporting it, launched

missiles in act and last month, the tests were not covered under last year's controversial iran nuclear deal. but u.s. and allies claim the launches violate a u.n. security council resolution, something iran denies. we saw this, congressman, with our ambassador, samantha power going to the u.n. trying to get some sort of a response. this is when i really want a peek at those side deals because they say, foreign minister, listen to him, they know this is not negotiable. what did we agree to? >> none of us know exactly what is in the side deals but the fact is we did bring up question of ballistic miss -- missile tests but they wouldn't talk about it and we dropped it. harris: why did they drop it. >> because we know so many were opposed to deal and it was a sellout. we know president obama will not push this. he doesn't want to leave this administration with the deal not working or appearing to work. harris: he doesn't even trust the spirit of the deal anymore.

andrea. andrea: we shouldn't in the first place. they don't believe they need to honor deals with infidels historically. administration acting surprised on this one. harris, very specifically the u.n. security council resolution 1929, stated plainly iran should not undertake any activity related to ballistic missiles. what happens? the congressman is exactly right. administration, john kerry said we'll drop the provision. we'll give iranians what they want. they said at the time they were moderating. now we handed them $150 billion. and they are drawing a red line with us. the difference? they will enforce their red lines. they're willing to go to war with us over their red lines. ours are simple phraseology. sandra: we wanted with this ballistic testing with sanctions on businesses, some on the right called for broad based -- what is your take on that? what should we do? >> i think we need strongest possible sanctions but security council and u.n. will never approve that because you have france and russia, they want to

keep the business deals going with iran. they want to maintain the status quo. our chances with that agreement, president and john kerry dropped the ball. we're definitely in bad shape because of it. >> iran's rationalization, we get to defend ourselves. couldn't they blame claim that a nuclear program in general is form of defense? we don't -- harris: we don't know that they didn't claim that. >> no, exactly. it is completely -- opacity here is monday boggle. i disagree with you. i think sanctions don't work. look at north korea. they're still aggressive. the only way to have actual freedom, only thing that might change the strong hold of this warped ideology is economic freedom. i will believe that until the day i die. i think, if there are people there who can have personal, economic, proliferation, they will maybe somehow change their government. harris: congressman i want to give you the last word because

kennedy says i disagree with the sanctions. >> listen, sanctions are not perfect but better than nothing. the reason economic growth may not help because it will be grabbed by iran to boost their missile program. andrea: why has not congress done more? they could have delayed monies, slowed things down. chuck schumer objecting to the iran deal and one $50 million of security funding cut here in new york? why won't congress pick up the ball when administration dropped it? >> we should definitely be more aggressive. andrea: whose fault of that in congress? >> i would say unfortunately, paul ryan, the base of the republican party is not as concerned about foreign policy as it should be. harris: wow. >> foreign policy is not not forefront the way it should be. harris: wow. i'm sure that comes up again on the couch. for now let's move on. what would a donald trump presidency look like? "the boston globe" mocking with this front page cover. inside its ideas section that it

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town tune more "outnumbered" in just a. first to jon scott what is coming up in second hour of "happening now." >> ben bernanke campaigning in binghamton, new york, in the last hour, he continues to slam hillary clinton's ties to special interests. also went after her about climate change. we'll have a live report. as the hunts for delegates heats up, trump last night calling the delegate process rigged as ted cruz captured all of colorado's available delegates over the weekend. we also have an update on a story we first brought you last week. saudi arabia and other arab nations buying up u.s. farmland and raising water, intensive crops like alfalfa for export to the middle east. we're learning more why that is happening. have update for you. andrea: thank you, jon. >> thanks, and dejaw. sandra: the mainstream media taking aim at donald trump. "the boston globe" publishing

this mock glover in its ideas the imaginary april 2017 cover includes headlines like, deportations to begin. and markets sink as trade war looms. it also includes more humorous story summaries like this. quote, nasa engineers halted launched of an unmanned probe amid fears its new gold leave trim would interfere with radio communications. the paper explained the satirical cover in editorial titled, the gop must stoptrump. it says, quote. it is an exercise in taking a man at his word. it requires an opposition as focused on denying trump the white house as the candidate is flippant and reckless about securing it. donald trump responding to the globe. >> how about that stupid "boston globe," worthless, sold for a dollar. did you see the story? the whole front page they made up a story that trump, they pretended trump is the president and they made up the whole front

pages of make-believe stories. which is really know different from the whole paper for the whole thing the whole thing is made up. sandra: congressman, that was trump's reaction. what is your reaction? >> it was biased, it was terrible and donald trump mouse love it. this proves his point that the mainstream media is against him. they will do anything, violate all rules of journalism. editorial page, make that the front page of their paper. this is gift to donald trump. just shows bias, underlying bias of the media against him. done in such a ham-handed dopey way it plays into trump's strength. sandra: while the actual parody was not on front page, what they put on the front page, editorial, titled, gop must stop trump. >> this was not on the front page. i don't have a huge problem of it. newspaper's editorial board wants to get creative that is fine. i fantasize what is paper will look like when hillary clinton is president. that could be actually a disaster.

harris: you mean whether or not she will become president or -- sandra: put a parody of a year would look under hillary clinton. harris: i agree with kennedy. it is editorial. every newspaper has editorial batch within its pages i don't think it really matters. i've not seen them pick on, as your suggesting candidates to the left the way they pick on candidates to the right. to answer your question directly. my big thing, congressman i agree with you it helps donald trump. >> sure does. harris: fear the ones you fear. it looks like maybe they're worried about a donald trump. >> editorials are editorials. when you see that that is shown all over the country, looks like page one of the paper, to go to that effort early the in campaign shows bias. this helps trump. this is exactly what they have been saying. liberal media is against him and do it in heavy-handed way it is -- sandra: subtitle, deportations to begin. president trump calls for tripling i.c.e. forces, riots would continue.

andrea: i think a lot of supporters would like the front page. congressman king, "new york daily news" let its editorial page, a paper i used to write for, they have that editorial page for a reason, it has become the front page. gone after trump in a way that has been disgraceful. >> i know reporters who are not trump fans, they're offended by it, what the "the daily news" hs become. >> they are trying to sell papers. so we talk about. harris: andrea: get to get your reaction. we'll be right back.

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of new york was here. great to have you for an hour. >> i'm sure it was. you got me. you got me. harris: stick with us for a live web show online for here on "outnumbered overtime." foxnews.com/outnumbered. click on the "overtime" tab. "happening now" right now. >> we don't know where the man is. >> an illegal immigrant on the run accused of killing a young woman. why he was not kept locked up. >> and a small plane crash lands in a neighborhood. >> how the people on board escaped with their lives. >> and a demolition catching