maybe not. it begins at 7:00 p.m. then 8:00 p.m. we've said it from the beginning. as long as fbn is around, we're not in reruns, we watch our money and we're not doing stupid infomercials. hello. this is "the five." watching leftists tell jokes is like watching a rat give birth in your kitchen. >> ugh! >> thanks for the endorsement, bill. took you long enough. >> sorry, hillary. i was running on cp time. >> what's that? >> i don't like jokes like that.

>> cautious politician time. >> people think surgery is painful to watch. no. that was painful to watchful that was harder to watch than zoolander i. the punch line, instead of referring to colored people, it meant cautious politician. it would have been better if he said callous politician or cadaverous pot head. the joke went over as well as the invasion of libya. maybe hillary can blame it on the vd too. she create the hyper sensitive fish bowl. when they poop in it they deserve the wrath from both sides. the black guy was in on it. if the republicans were in on it, they would have called it uncle tom. the joke was bad but there's worse. like new york under de blasio. another great city, with homeless hell. it is like he found an old death

wish and thought, the good old days. the joke is not the cp line. it is this mayor and we continue to elect these progressives to great cities only tow see to see. the joke isn't on blacks. it is on all of us and it is one that never seems to die. >> juan, you're black. >> yeah, yeah. you unhigh pressured on that one. >> yeah. i can't stand it. how bad was that joke in your mind? was it bad? >> no. in fact, what was interesting today was the number of white people who said what's cp time? that's so you know, what it cou someone said, my age. that it is a generational thing. it was. more common before. i hear that all the time. >> you do? still? >> because i'm late all the time. >> got that racist --

>> i'm being 100%, i've never heard it before. is it the c part of it or the part that it is basically saying african-americans are late? or is it all of it? offensive across the board? >> i twaut an inside joke. people say manana. they come tomorrow. it is like a funny thing. the only part is if they said colored people. >> is it still that offensive. >> some it's not offensive to me. i thought it was old-fashioned. i thought greg was on target. you have a black actor there. if he had been in on a conservative joke, he would have, greg is honest. >> even though he's married to an african-american. >> that's not your get out of jail card. a lot of time people are said by

comedians. >> i think the problem was that it wasn't actually funny. he should be offended as a comedian, not an african-american. it is like racist jokes. it is like joking about rape. it is not funny. i don't know who wrote the joke. when they were standing out there, how did they go, this is a great idea. let's do this. >> why does it bother me more than it bothers juan? cp is a joke about colored people. >> it is hard to offend me. i think comedy, good comedy should offend you. i like when i'm in an audience and it makes me uncomfortable. it makes me of la. it is hard to offend me. with that being. with his delivery. nothing could be funny but i don't think it is a greatly executed joke. but there should be a different set of standards. if we were sitting at this table

and saying something like that, we're not aiming to be funny about it. we would be talking about news. comedians get on stage and they're supposed to ruffle you up. >> i don't think you're allowed an munl bubble because you're a comedian. if you screw up, you screw up. >> i thought it was, the phrase itself is offensive. >> is it the phrase or the innuendo that african-americans are late all the time? which is it? >> it's the same thing. >> i like comedy that contradicts what you perceive about race or gender politics. i hilike that. it wasn't that funny. guess what, they're willing to push the line on a racial issue.

and people like de blasio, hillary clinton, they would never do it. >> it is because we know they would destroy us. they would destroy us. >> generally, i mean, we talked about the first amendment. we talked about it, that we should be able to make a joke. on the left, there's an acceptable norm. >> like a chris rock, right? he talked about going. we're having a great time and then certain people, i'm not going to say that word. i don't even say it in my private life. we're talking about a certain group of people and he starts useding that n word. and everybody in the audience is howling. this is among black people. do you get a get out of jail card for chris rock, a black comedian using that? >> why is it a get out of jail card?

>> the colored part is now considered racist, right? >> no, no, no. you have de blasio explaining the show. it was a scripted show. the whole idea was to do the counter intuitive and say cautious politician time. every actor involved including hillary clinton and leslie thought it was a joke on a different convention. >> so it's our fault. >> what is a joke a o'a different convention? did you see her face? >> imagine ted cruz had made that joke and then went on television and explained that it way. and imagine the response he would get. people would be outraged. because it is de blasio, he men no harm.

it is acceptable for some people to offend in some ways and not others. two days ago another homeless guy slashld an israeli tourist. this is happening. the homeless rate has risen from hike 15,000 over two years. the city is returning to the taxi driver. >> so you think they should hold him accountable? >> that joke really didn't hurt anybody. you're saying maybe she mayor the city. >> show up on time. we talk about this new poll? racial tension is at a 15-year high. literally. risen the latter half of the.

do you think it is partially obama? the media? who is to blame? in my mine, the media has turned race into a major. >> you have to dig into the numbers. guess who really have seen a jump in terms of the concern about race relations? liberals, and it's white people, not black people. why do we see the jump in the last two-year period? and i think it has to do with black lives matter. police and black people. traef brown. people are feeling freer to speak about it. you have a president who will say that. but you have black and latinos.

>> i think the media plays a big role in what we choose to cover. if there's black on white violence or white on black violence. that gets amplified but if you have black on black violence, in chicago, or people are shot every day. that has nothing to do with race that isn't an interesting angle or story. and i think we selectively blow up stories. and then it tanlts the picture for the country of a racial reality that may or may not be the case. it amplifies it. i don't think the president just because he is african-american, i don't think barack obama would change the entire dynamic of race relations. even though he said he would be a great unifier and people said you didn't do what you said you are going to do. he is one man. >> he did say he would change the levels of the oceans.

>> let's not forget, president obama came out on race. that was a dramatic comment about trayvon martin. hey, he's just weighing in. he had eric hoerld, remember during i believe it was trayvon martin as well said, talking about when he was young, a young african-american boy with his father walking in a department store security would follow them around. the obama administration has heightened the race debate over the last six years. and i think it has gotten worse. >> do you think it is worse because you heard that? >> why am i hearing that his son would look leak trayvon martin? >> because he is saying, with this kid. he felt was under fairly snaked it had to do with race.

young black boys wearing a hoodie? it was heightening the racial tensions. >> she's right when she says bits the media. we cover things out of the ordinary. that's what makes it news. if there is black on black violence, a lot of time it is not covered. it gives you a skewed perspective. tragedy of the mundane. the mundane of the tragedy. we got so used to it. >> all right. ahead on "the five" ted cruz' wife gives her first tv interview. megyn kelly got an exclusive interview.

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bernie sanders is convinced america's economy is rigged. >> it is not only a corrupt campaign finance system.

it is a rigged economy. the walton family who owns walmart, one family owns more wealth than the bottom 40%. the walton family pays wages so low to its employees at walmart that many of the workers are forced to go on food stamps and medicaid. do you know who pays higher taxes for those food stamps and medicaid? that's exactly right. the movie class. >> and the waltons. he also mentioned his goal of raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. wouldn't the government be rigging the economy and hurting the economy with that kind of wage hike in tell us about 15 $1

an hour. >> in new york city they have 30 restaurants owned by the franchisees who are small business owners. they said they have a 1% to 2% profit margin. or they have to fire people or automate. there is no profit margin that these rich guys at the top are taking home. it is just about hurting the people at the bottom. yes, the economy is rigged. it is rigged by everyone in washington. the policy has jacked the stock market. that's why the divide has gotten bigger and the rich have gotten richer. housing through hud. that's why the bubble explode in the real estate. it is from washington. >> talk about the walton family. they employ a lot of people. >> and they provide the cheap goods for the people that busy

claims to be worried about. they make life livable. what system is he comparing america to? is there a utopian socialist nearby? there's no system of government that has decreased poverty. the poor in america is better off than the middle class in most countries. they have more goods, more services. life is better. the idea of poverty is being reduced faster and america is could go it on its own. >> and juan, let's take a listen. >> $15 minimum wage would kill jobs and business. the former ceo. >> talk about going from $10 to $15 for a new minimum, talking about a 50% increase in wages. you look at that.

small businesses are going to get crucified with these rules. i know it is a job killer. if you go back and look at the volume of a typical fast food restaurant and the number of employees they have. the head count is down 50% in these restaurants. >> now you can put an order in to mcdonald's. they'll send to it india and back. it is cheaper. >> i'm amazed talking about small businesses as if mcdonald's is a small business. >> the franchise. the individual stores. >> i think that you've seen target and others raise their minimum wage and trying to get out ahead of what is now a political movement. especially on the left in this country. not only bernie. i think he wants to raise it to $15 an hour. president obama is talking about 1010. this is all a percentage of

17.10. when you get to 15, you're about 85% there. that destroys the market for people trying to just make a living. >> i think somebody pays for it. bernie sanders talks as if moan grows on trees. your prices will go up. you will pay for it in terms, he does live in a utopia. everybody gets a rainbow, a unicorn, somebody else is paying for everything. i find it interesting when he speaks about corruption. government can never be corrupt. like somehow government will roll in and be this great equalizer and take from one person and give to another and balance out the system. and all the corruption will leave. as if there's never been a story about government corruption. it is fascinating to me that corruption only exists in the private sector. and government is somehow holier than thou. >> your argument and melissa's

argument seems a part no. you stay excess comes from washington. >> i think it is the policies in washington that got us into this mess in the first place. you look at the federal reserve putting moment out there. you hike to talk about the bubble. this is low interest rates. they're taking crazy risks and breaking the law. >> but who did that? it seems to me wall street is banking on this. they bail us out. we're too big to fail. you go all the way back to allen greenspan and look at how much money were pumped into housing. people thought they lied on their houses and thought it would go up and up because that was a great way to make money. that was facilitated by the federal reserve. >> i get it. >> what about the people who

lied? and the people in wall street had nothing to do with pushing that. >> plenty of blame to go around. and it starts in washington. yes, there were bad actors that broke the law. absolutely. and bad individuals who lied on their loans. >> that's why bernie sanders is doing so well. because people are saying, listen. why do you take care of wall street but never take care of main street? he is doing so well because he talks in sound bites. >> he's never taken care of main street either. donald trump still fired up about the presidential delegate system. he thinks it is crooked and rigged. (patrick 1) what's it like to be the boss of you?

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they finally certified results from march 15. mr. trump still isn't happy about the delegate system. here he is just moments ago. >> you know the system, folks, it's rigged. when you look at colorado. people can say that's the way the game is played. they should have had an election. they didn't have an election. a republican system is absolutely rigged. it is a phony deal. i have millions of votes more but also delegates more. this is a dirty trick. i'll tell you why. the rnc, the republican national committee, they should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this kind of crap to happen. >> wow! is the gop system rigged? is trump right?

they don't think so. >> they have rigged it on the democrat side. they're using the super delegates. it is not rigged on the republican side. this is just the establishment. >> i don't think it was designed to stop donald trump. it was designed before he came into the primaries. >> it is the same process they used four years ago. no different. some states use a primary system to bind delegates. some states use a caucus system on bind delegates. nothing mysterious about this. >> we'll take a vote right here. >> it is a bad system but it is not rigged against him. >> how about that bizarre, abnormal -- >> is it rigged? >> rigged for whom? >> it is rigged for the establishment, yes. i don't think it is rigged against donald trump. it was created before he got there.

you get to vote. >> trump just used the rules like bankruptcy rules. he used the bankruptcy rules to screw other people and now he's mad that he's getting screwed? >> imagine if you're a college student and you have a mid-term. and they move the mid-term but they said everybody six months ago. and everybody shows up. all the other students show up. the professor shows up. you didn't show up because you were too cheap to buy a damn alarm clock. trump was too cleem to put in an infrastructure in colorado. he even fired some guy like a couple weeks ago. he didn't put the attention on. this he didn't guy alarm clock. he talks about being surrounded by great people. the great people, that's their fault. by the way, he should love the delegates. he has a larger percentage of

delegates than votes. if the system is rigged, it is for him. >> you answer ad different question than juan asked. juan asked, is the delegate system rigged. it was an opportunity. he should have planted some people there. he should have had them there. the guy got fired. >> the bigger picture. the system is rigged. it is not just rigged against trump. it is rigged against cruz also. >> that cruz adapted. >> no one is getting when they go to this convention, at the convention, the rules committee at the convention is made up of trump delegates, cruz delegates, came delegates and a whole group of people who are neither. the rnc chooses those people. if they have enough support, they can change that rule 40, 40 b which will allow anyone on a subsequent ballot to back

nominee. it's rigged so they can pick who the nominee is. >> let me say, at this table, the vote was 3-2. you said it is rigged. but not rigged against trump. >> i think it is rigged for the establishment. >> the winning presidency for the gop. maybe it might be rigged to win the general election. not to indulge somebody that emotionally you like. >> everybody agrees at the table that the establishment looks out for itself. and the name most often flowed as the candidate of the establishment, if we get to an open convention is paul ryan. watch this. >> so let me be clear. i donal want, nor will i accept the nomination for our party.

so let me speak directly to the delegates on this. if no candidate has a majority in the first ballot, i believe that you should only choose from a person who is actually participated in the primary. count me out. i simply believe that if you want to be the nominee for our party, to be the president, you should actually run for it. i chose not to do this. therefore, i should not be interested, period, end of story. i just think it would be wrong to go any other way. let me say again. i am not going to be our party's nominee. >> jedidiah, i think i'm having a flash back. i've been sipping from greg's cup. instead, in the flash back it said, paul ryan said i don't want to be speaker of the house. i'll never take that job. >> i think it is a little different to run for president than to accept position as

speaker. this guy doesn't want the job. people get obsessed with paul ryan and with mitt romney. like he'll have to answer this another 750 times. he doesn't want the job. i don't even think he would be great for the job. when he was on the ticket with romney, he ended being this bull. he got all shy. he was not tough on barack obama. i don't know that the conservatives would hike him. >> he said something very importan important. he said it should be someone who ran for president. we started with 17. i think he said any one of the 17. >> that's why -- they don't, they suspended. so marco rubio is suspended. >> i get i. >> they could come back. >> what do you think? >> why did he put out that video that was totally presidential

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remember the days when donald trump would mock little marco? now he's talking about him for vp. the republican front-runner said, quote, there are people i have in mind in terms of vice president. i just haven't told anybody names. do i like marco, john kasich, scott walker actually in a lot of ways. i hit them very hard with you i've always liked him box any of those former opponents accept a vp offer from trump? >> i won't be anybody's vice president. i'm not interested in being vice president. >> you're asking me if i would be his vice president? >> zero. >> i'm not going to be anybody's vice president. i would be the worst vice president the country ever saw. you know why? i'm not like a vice president. i'm a president. >> and governor walker said he laughed when he heard his name mentioned as a possible trump

pick. >> how is he going from calling him little marco and the hands to being like, hey, want to be my vp? >> why does he need a vp? i've said this before. he should just be the p and the vp and the staff. he should -- maybe get am rosa and dennis rodman. he needs somebody that he can talk to and he can listen to. the only person i can think of is george ross. 80 years old. he was the only guy. what do you think? then you're fired. >> i think he has to pick someone sfr outside the feel. i think they've dragged each other through the mud. going from saying all these

terrible things to being the running mate. shoe should he pick? >> i've heard the list. i thought the one name missing is ted cruz. he didn't even -- >> because he would say yes. >> how about chris christie? i think he is his best friend. i think they would say yes. this is politics. you say awful things and then you want to be. hillary was obama's secretary of state after all that. >> i loved walker's response when he said it was breath taking. it literally took his breath away to hear his name mentioned. >> he is unpredictable. the best choice. >> he is not going to run for

president. >> your plan, that undercuts hillary. >> it undercuts everybody. i love it. and joe. >> wait a minute. >> whoever will act for trump. >> this is turning into a tv show i want to watch. now kasich i think would be a good choice. i know he's saying he will say no but he appeals to moderates. he has a very wide appeal. and his favorability numbers are high. >> do you think trump thinks about this seriously at this stage of the game? do you think he is strategizing in terms of votes he can't get on his own? >> i think even when he was

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traveling can be very stressfulful but traveling with children can bring you very close to the edge. fold in a flight delay by half a day and this mom just completely lost it. >> i'm telling everyone -- [ bleep ] you lied to me! sitting here since 8:00 with a 9-year-old who is waiting for her vacation and a 13-year-old. [ yelling ]

getting what we want. we're waiting all our lives for this. waiting for a year already. >> and of course, everyone is taking video time with their felonies to. they're recording on it their that phones. it was pretty exciting at laguardia airport. that furious mother melted down in front of her kids, with everyone else, after the flight to miami impacted her disney cruise and vacation. the flight did take off, albeit 12 hours later. the family made it in time for their cruise. a very happy ending. now we are all laughing around this table. jedidiah? you've been there. >> i want to be her in my next life. i'm way too polite. i only have melt downs like that with my family.

there was a horrible snowstorm in colorado. i can only describe it. i went to catholic school my whole life. i was taught you don't like something, zip it. i want to be someone who screams like that and it makes youtube because of it. >> i wonder about the wisdom of this. the person behind the counter has the power to put her on another flight. this is like insulting the waiter before the food comes out. >> you want to be like that? have kids. moms are supposed to be a little crazy. if there were digital felonies to when i was a child in the '70s, my mother would yell at me, at everybody. she was a screamer. she had four kids. she had a sick husband. she went nuts. that's what you're supposed to do. from your question. in customer service, they're goal oriented.

you're talking to your smartphone or a rock. their goal is that you get will safely and that you don't die and you can yell at them all want. artificial intelligence. you can't talk to them. >> first of all, i totally disagree with you. with kids around, i edit myself more. >> you're a terrible mom. >> now i try not to go off in front of people with my kids there. by the way, the cruise didn't take off until 5:00 the next day. she cut it close but it is not like it was about to leave. >> you're saying it is her fault? >> no, no, no. i'm trying to combine all the facts. i know, i know. >> at some point the airline has. i'll give you a piece of equipment in here. spread them out on other airlines. they can pay for another airline to take those passengers. i feel for her.

and i know my beautiful wife who is more patient than everyone. at the four or five-hour mark would do that as well. >> go to another desk. start doing something. i'm not going to stand there and let them control this out of control situation. calm down. >> remember it was 2:00 al. >> no. it was 9:00le? no, it was 2:00 a.m. is what i read. the thing about it. make another plan, stan. i don't understand you can't let them control your life. so frustrating. >> drive to another airport. >> a fantastic solution. we solved it. now one more thing is up next. my insurance rates are probably gonna double.

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he's making it about him. you don't want anything too overly flamboyant or dramatic when you're doing a prom ask. if some shy geeky kid and asks you quietly, say yes. he could be in next bill hammer. >> i love that. >> okay. my turn. megyn kelly is sitting down tonight for an exclusive with heidi cruz. it is the first time we've heard from her in a while. >> recently donald trump sent out an unkind retweet about you comparing your appearance unfavorably to that of his wife melania trump who is a retired model. how did that come to your attention? >> one great thing about me is i don't tweet. i had an ability to completely ignore it. and i think we have a pattern of behavior here when donald trump is falling behind.

>> i have to honestly say, it didn't impact me in the least. >> see? that's what i told my kids. if you just ignore them, it doesn't bother you. the rest of the interview tonight. the kelly files. >> so when the nba first started, there was not a three-point line or a shot clock. some rules changed. think about that for a second. go to my twitter page. i put up a poll. so i want to hear what you have to say. do you agree with that? if you agree say yes, rules are rules. or no, it's time for the rules to be changed to reflect the vote more accurately. >> so last year in the green room, greg woke me up from a nap

and juan happened to be rolling footage. let's take a look. this is what he gets. you notice which one is the vicious one and which one can beat the other one up. so memo, don't wake me up from a nap. >> and that kid ran away from home. who know where he went? >> okay. so nba legend kobe bryant will play his final game wednesday night in l.a. against the utah jazz. i mentioned it to eric and melissa. watch the economics here. his game now is listed at $2,100 on monday afternoon. more than 500% higher than the average cost of a lakers game

one ticket. can you believe this michael jordan game? >> i can't believe it. stop talking. "special report" up next. house speaker paul rinl says thanks but no thanks to becoming the republican party's plan b this election year. this is "special report." welcome to washington. paul ryan just says no. the house speaker is ruling out a run for the presidency even if a contested gop convention turns to him as a possible savior to get majority support. >> i chose not to do this. therefore, i should not be considered. period. end of story. >> he said the possibility should be limited to people who put their hat into