are psychiatrist. >> howie kurtz will be here to we keep talk about delegate count. what issues? is that overshadowing it? >> issues? what issues? "outnumbered" begins right now. >> bye. ♪ andrea: this is "outnumbered" i'm andrea tanteros. here with us today, harris faulkner, sandra smith, co-host after "after the bell" on fox business network, melissa francis, and today's #oneluckyguy, former speaker of the house, 2012 presidential candidate and fox news contributor, newt gingrich. and mr. gingrich, "outnumbered," sir and. >> i was a great experience. thank you. harris: we're great to have you. >> you guys are always very lively and take it places i wouldn't think of. [laughter] andrea: always keep firing with the commentary.

harris: we like that. andrea: let's take it in a place i think you know we're going. >> all right. andrea: you know we'll talk politics. days ahead of the crucial new york primary democrats in bare knuckle brawl in brooklyn. hillary clinton and bernie sanders holding nothing back in last night's debate, yelling over each other at times t opened up with a question that's been in the headlines recently. who is most qualified to be president? >> does secretary clinton have the experience and intelligence to be a president? of course she does. but i do question -- [cheering] but i do question her judgment. i question a judgment which voted for the war in iraq. >> if you go and read, which i hope all of you will before tuesday, senator sanders' long interview with the "new york daily news," talk about judgment and the talk about the kinds of problems he had answering questions about even his core issue, breaking up the banks.

when asked he could not explain how that would be done. andrea: the two also sparred over clinton's ties to wall street and whether she has been or will be influenced by the money that she's received. >> i stood up against the behaviors of the banks when i was a senator. i called them out on their mortgage behavior. >> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this. [laughter] [cheering] was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements? andrea: then it got even nastier, yes, nastier than that, over issue of minimum wage. watch. >> i supported the fight for 15. i'm proud to have endorsement of the unions that led the fight for 15. >> i'm sure a lot of people are

very surprised to learn you supported raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour. [cheering] that is not accurate. >> i have stood on the debate stage senator sanders with eight prior times. i said the same thing. >> secretary, please -- >> whether in new york or los angeles or seattle. let's do it! >> you're both screaming at each other the viewers won't be able to hear either of you. andrea: all this as a new "fox news poll" shows the race tightening big time nationwide. clinton is only two points ahead of sanders. last month, she led by 13 points. and, in new york, separate sienna poll shows her lead over sanders is shrinking to 10 points. okay, mr. speaker. so hillary clinton, even though a lot of folks believe she is the inevitable nominee, bernie sanders is giving her a real run for her money and it was fun to watch someone actually challenge her. >> i think if sanders had been

this tough 2 1/2 months ago, he might be in a different race. because, there are some, you know, the clintons have this marvelous capacity to invent a pretend world and then simply tough it out when people suggest to them that it doesn't exist. she gets a fairly large amount of money to go give a secret speech but after all you shouldn't ask her to tell you what she told the big banks when they paid you a lot of money. it was only secret speech to the big banks and it was a lot of money and how could you be concerned about this? this clinton technique works for a quarter century. no matter what they do, she toughs it out. she will probably be the nominee but every day this goes on she gets weaker. andrea: what do you think about sanders supporters. winning with first-time voters, young voters and sometimes even win. if superdelegates in her corner fall in her camp and stay in her camp and she has the coronation what happens to the sanders

voters? >> this is going on for a while longer. one of the things that happens, as you listen to your own rhetoric, so you could get to a point where sanders can't endorse her. now he is not there right now. i think considering the alternative, is cruz or trump, odds are pretty high he will endorse her. the second thing is, there are things hardening about her, and that people talk about how many people are not going to volt for donald trump or cruz. there is large block block of democrats say they won't vote for hillary. you can imagine a younger person really trying to decide, do i really want this in the white house for the next eight years? harris: interesting. sandra: i loved fight about the minimum wage. oh, my gosh. that was fun. but i have to tell you, i did a little fact checking to see just how much bernie sanders attack on her now supporting the fifth dean dollars minute -- $15 minimum wage was.

she has, been on her website sometime and supports raising minimum wage at 12 and should go further through state and local efforts. she had a hard time defending that point. that debase her debate skills were not sharpened. she had a point and could have stuck with that she did not change her views on minimum wage. been calling for $12 at federal level and asking states and cities working to raise it to 15 at local level. listen, bernie sanders was strong last night. >> what you said was clintonesque. i'm really for $12 minimum wage. but if you want $15 minimum wage, i'm over here for that. sandra: that is where his attack was. >> she called out on bernie sanders breaking up banks. now the circus come to town we see the ads. i will make up banks, make them pay fair share, with that money,

give away free college tuition and expand social security and i would love to seat math. unless he get as gun and goes robbing every single bank out there, how is the math work out he will give away college and expand social security and health care coverage by robbing the big banks? what a fantasy. show me any math, any numbers at all, even if you make up the numbers. put them on a chalk board. what is he talking about. >> this is why you will never be a socialist. you actually think the math have to add up. sandra: you don't have that going for you. harris: you hear politicians make promises all the time that may or may not add up, present company excluded. where is bernie sanders, where in the world is bernie sanders today? you know, rome is bering -- that is sign outside vatican. he spoke to speak at economic

conference at the vatican, he spoke about 15 minutes talking about economic equality. why is this vision interesting. he really had her on the ropes last night. could you see, even without the email scandal everybody within that party knows does not resonate with the party faithful. they don't go there with hillary clinton much. he doesn't need that. he can do it purely on, was it 12 or was it 15? were you lying then or were you lying now? they went into it on gun control which is interesting. my husband who worked on the hill, as a reporter, oh, my gosh, did he report to consensus? that's a first. that is really moderate stance. he said that is not, that's not, that is putting more space between him and hillary. so you could see her getting really upset last night. angry hillary got a very nice wolf blitzer, sweet man, secretary, please! more than once. she was screaming at him. which when you talk about, if you're explaining and you're screaming, what are you not doing, andrea? andrea: you're not winning.

if you're explaining, you're not winning. speaker, i want to bring in business experts on her speeches on wall street, how much does this matter? you have to know the clintons say one thing in public. say another thing in private. they have been doing this for decades. you battled them when you were speaker the house and they were just across the street at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. they do this and don't seem to lose. sanders supporters say the system is rigged in her favor. why are not more sanders reporters outraged? why is the dnc giving the clintons cover? >> the dnc is the clintons. andrea: they're the same thing. >> but i think in the case of, you do have a lot of sanders supporters who are outraged and you do have this, you know, this extraordinary, i don't know if it is hypocrisy, slight of hand, that the big banks who give all this money to the clinton foundation and hire me to give speeches in secret are really people i dislike so deeply i

want to really dramatically change them. when i give the secret speeches i'm really tough with them. i can't reveal the secret speeches because it would be inappropriate. the people who are for clinton most want power. they want power because it is money. so teachers unions have to be for clinton because she protects them from competition. harris: wow. >> all various unions. who cares most about hillary, career politicians whose base is power. they need government money to survive. >> the banks wouldn't give her money if they didn't think they had her ear. that she would be in her favor. i don't think it matters what she said in the speeches. we all can see what is going on without seeing the speeches they're lining her pocket not because she is charismatic speaker. we saw her in that debate. they're lining her pocket because they believe she is on their side and they're speaking with her dollars. bernie sanders in italy, did he fly coach there? harris: no, he did not. >> no? harris: a lot of fan fare.

sandra: to that point, we can talk about the debate last night all day long but did anything change last night on the democratic side in that race? >> i don't think so but i don't know. the reason i say that is, you see sanders closing stronger everywhere. i mean he routinely does better than the poll numbers, partly i think by turnout and partly because he is on offense and she's not. i think at one point when they got into minimum wage, we didn't have the clip here, but there is point sanders comes back you talk about making $250,000 and hour, you want us to be grateful you think somebody can make 15? harris: you made -- >> there is class warfare component of sanders she fits on the wrong side of. harris: you made an excellent point before. i alluded to this with a question, so i'm curious to get more from you on it yesterday. you know, whether or not this is a real fight, i know andrea said it is kind of a faux fight on democratic side, whether it turns out she was ever in jeopardy getting nomination at

the end of the day, one of the things would you say, show her weaknesses? last night we saw real weaknesses. consistency of message is not her special gift when it comes to the economy. i don't know how he flew, but he had a pretty ritzy motorcade when he got there. i'm interested in getting your thoughts. >> i said consistently for two years, there is level you can get to where you can either dance or can't dance. it is interacting with the audience. prince once kicked kim kardashian off the stage because she couldn't dance. [laughter] hillary can't dance. so you can't train her. you can't say now, we're going to practice the mambo. she prances around the stage. harris: that is good analogy. >> did prince kick kim kardashian off the stage? we'll be doing during the break is bringing that up.

>> i did not know you didn't know that. harris: i have seen the video. it is good video. >> i'm shocked you didn't know. andrea: all right. brand new "fox news poll" showing donald trump has a split decision. on one hand he is opening biggest lead yet for the race for the gop nomination. but on other, voters say he lacks the temperment to sit in the oval office? how do explain this? will it spell trouble for the republican front-runner. we'll ask mr. speaker. plus the chair of the senate foreign relations committee sounding the alarm on the rhetoric on the campaign trail says it threatens the america's leadership in the world. newt gingrich will weigh in on that when we come back.

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providers to keep these types of legal demands secret. this as apple and the fbi are getting set to head back to capitol hill next week concerning their heated battle over law enforcement access to encrypted devices. speaker, this is something we've talked about quite a bit on the couch. that fight between the government and apple, it heated up and it took on meaning for main street too because they worry about the safety of their devices and whether or not the government could access their personal data if asked for it? >> one level, i don't understand this issue because maybe i'm from a different era. okay? when the u.s. government would go to the telephone company with a warrant signed by a judge and say, we're now going to tap the phone of a mauve yo sew. sandra: they do it. >> you didn't have at&t call the

mauve fafioso. be careful of your conversation because the government is accessing your telephones. i don't worry nearly as much on criminal side but i'm a absolute hawk on national security. if we think, one of these days it is going to happen, if we think a dirty bomb or a nuclear weapon or biological weapon is coming into this country, and we think somebody has a device that they are communicating with somebody else about bringing that weapon in this country, the united states government has to have the ability to track it. sandra: so these technology companies should be more willing to work with the government? >> i think the absence of any sense of public interest on these big companies is just crazy because, i mean, first of all, who do they think they are? like in 1902 the coal miner owners basically said to theodore roosevelt we're bigger than the government. roosevelt said actually i'm the president of the united states and you're not bigger than government.

he got them back down. in the end he would send army to take over their mines. we're in similar situation. microsoft does not have the primary responsibility protecting 300 million people. president of the united states does. for microsoft to decide it will render judgment, we decide we want to track a terrorist who is an american by the way. but they're a terrorist. sandra: but the concern, speaker, obviously, melissa, you hear this all the time in your world, the concern that the government will overstep their boundaries, will ask for -- >> that is why you need to have judges, you need to have warrants. you need to have a trail of responsibility. i think you need to draw a very sharp line between national security and crime. i think on crime, immuch more willing to be cautious but on national security, i think people underestimate how really bad one of these events would be. sandra: the difference when you're talking about the phone call, you're talking about putting a bug in place or listening to conversations that are going on. when you're talking about

emails, there are zillions of emails stored for eternity with microsoft for everyone. the idea of them going in there and fishing endlessly, that is what people are afraid of. the store of data is so humongous versus, what you would listen to on the phone. and i think that the fear is, that this is, i mean one professor made a great point. that in every case, i think you were saying this it has to be justified. it can't become routine. >> right. >> they can easily go over to say we need to see this person's emails. it has to be rigorously justified in each and every case and people fear we get away from that. >> i say if you pass a bill, i strongly supported mike mccaul's proposal for bipartisan commission on this whole question, because i think it is a big question, not a small one but draw a big line here, okay? this is criminal. your rights to be protected, you are deemed innocent until proven guilty, et cetera. this is protecting lives of 300 million americans from

people we know want to kill us. andrea: i respectfully disagree with you, speaker. i think that is emotional argument that the administration is using now to reach their end goal and their end goal is not to keep the country safe long term. i mean, yes they want to keep the country safe, by fbi director comey has stated the goal of this administration to end all encrypted technologies. they expanded not just to iphones but whatsapp and other things people use to correspond. they know these correspondence are protected. terrorists are using them. the danger in this is that, that will end all encrypted technologies for everyone and that is the goal of this administration. that's assuming that the fbi doesn't have the ability to get in that phone and they do and we saw them do that with the last issue in apple. so, apple is standing up going, wait a minute, wait a minute, government we know you have supercomputers that can do force breaks to get into phones of the you're pressuring us to write a code to hack our own product? why would we do that?

i think this administration specifically has made clear their intentions and in the name of security, we are giving up all of our privacy and it's incredibly, incredibly troubling. harris: so one thing that you said really stood out to me is the fact that you look at companies not to tip off people looked at. that is a frighten thought that anybody would do that. isn't that a separate issue from whether or not they are cooperating with the government? i would think that would be illegal for them to tip off the people government is looking at? >> the microsoft case is specific. that is what they're doing. i think we may be in semi agreement. i think there should be a law that draw as really big line here. if we're talking about normal criminal behavior, even things that may be pretty horrendous the civil system says you're innocent until proven giftty absolutely -- guilty, absolutely should apply. if we're talking about threats to american security, i think you have to have, i wouldn't say ending all encryption you have to have ability to access

information and have to be able to do it in secret. by definition you can't tell the terrorist -- andrea: government does have the ability. they wanted to create a legal precedent to do it at will whenever they wanted, and i think that is scary. i think we have common ground. harris: new york tried to do it with the criminal side to tack it on. it didn't work out. there is already somewhat of a bright line. interesting. sandra: this is not over. it is going to continue. these technology companies will fiercely battle the government on this we'll keep watching it. new "fox news" polling shows donald trump widening his lead for the republican nomination but many voters say the billionaire businessman doesn't have the right temperment to be an effective president. what he needs to do to win them over. we'll discuss. ♪

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a bland new fox poll showing donald trump widening his lead in the race for the republican nomination. he has hit his highest number yet had this poll. trump is ahead of ted cruz 45 to 27% among gop voters. that is an 18-point lead. three weeks ago he was only up by three points. voters giving trump the best chance to beat hillary clinton in general election matchup, with 42%, another 18-point lead for cruz. it is not good news for donald trump. the poll contains potential warning signs. take a look. only 33% say the real estate mogul has the right temperment to be effective president. on this score he trails far behind not only ted cruz but democrats as well. you're squeaking like a -- >> it's a such a funny question, the right temperment. he wrote an op-ed in "the wall street journal" today. if you just looked at headline, how is this something working out for you and your family?

if he would just stick to that message, i think that resonates on every side. i heard a democrat on television this morning saying i'm a registered democrat. my choices right now are between a socialist and a criminal. so i'm going to vote for trump. andrea: i saw that. >> from this petty your wife, this one this, and maybe that is where the temperment thing comes in. in "the wall street journal" he was talking about colorado which i think is lost on a lot of people but it is symbolic of is this system in general, the way the country is running is that working for your family? i bet it is not. harris: overarching issue, speaker, it is interesting thought. high tide raises all boats. you talked about trying to get the focus on things that matter but donald trump says, look, you have to fight the fight that you're in right now. so sometimes it gets personal. sometimes it gets something else. what would you say? >> i mean first of all, anytime i deal with somebody who is a winner, i'm inclined, whether it's football team or it's a

golfer or in this case a politician, i'm inclined to at least give them the benefit of the doubt. harris: great. >> he has literally been the front-runner since june 16th. has done it more cheaply than anybody in history. gets more earned media by just being interesting. it is worth studying him and thinking about what's he doing? he started out with total of 17 candidates, 16 others. and his technique of brutalizing people and being petty worked. i mean you can like it or dislike it but it worked. now he is in a different game. harris: right. >> last night i thought, i was watching him on megyn kelly when they cut to the new york gop dinner and trump was there in a tux, gave a very calm 19 minute speech on new york values which i thought was very effective. he felt presidential at that point. the question is, can he resist tweeting stupidly? [laughter] harris: we all do that sometimes.

he would listen to her about that. >> donald, not now. take it away from him. harris: one of the things we looked at in polling i just showed, was the fact that fox polling looks like he has the best chance to beat hillary clinton. does he do it the same way, just to dovetail off what you just said. >> well i don't know. i try to remind people i was active with reagan when he was 25 points behind jimmy carter in the spring of 1980. i helped george h.w. bush when he was 19 points behind dukakis in may. when elections, when you get past confusion and chaos after the convention, if the choices are large enough, i believe trump both has largest upside an largest downside of any candidate. if he goes sour it will be a real disaster. if on the other hand he takes that personal energy and drive, you said earlier person to sit in the oval office, my reaction was he won't? harris: that won't matter.

>> he will walk around the oval office. he will be pacing constantly. but here's the deal, i don't know anybody else on the republican side would have the nerve to go into the south side of chicago and say, your children shouldn't be getting killed, your young children should get education and ought to be a job in it neighborhood and actually break through the old political machinery and leave a lot of african-americans to say, gee, that's kind of interesting. harris: not even a current president who is actually from chicago. >> he could if he wanted to. sandra: when it comes to temperment, you wonder is there a temper of doctor definition of temperment? is there definition what that looks like? i look at some the most successfully-run companies who led them at that those times. they weren't always most liked guys or gals, right? but you still wanted them running that company, because they were the best person for the job. >> close to volume 6 of elephant

for -- this will be "hail to the chief" about presidents. harris: excellent. >> the section she has on andrew jackson is the inauguration when all of these people came in from the countryside, took over the white house, he actually moved out to a hotel that night because there were so many noisy people wandering around the white house. andrew jackson is the president most like trump. jackson broke up the oligarchy running the country. he was a little bit of a wild man. i think trump, i tell people, you won't be able to tell what trump will do every morning because he won't know what he will do every morning. andrea: that was pretty fiery convention back then. >> it was. andrea: republican senator sounding alarm about the rhetoric on campaign trail say it is threatening u.s. global leadership. senator bob corker hitting presidential candidates hillary clinton, bernie sanders and donald trump for opposing the pacific trade deal. saying candidates increasingly populist tone is sending mixed

signals to other countries. corker is saying quote, the world is in need of u.s. leadership and clarity probably more so than anytime in modern history. right now not seeing that. i'm referring to what is happening in the presidential race. really, people not getting any strong signals about where this nation will be when this ends. do you agree with that? this has become a very low discourse campaign where we are talking about insults and back and forth. we don't seem to be talking about those big issues. >> trump is certainly talking about really big issues. he said he will build a wall with mexico. he will be engaged in brutal trade fight with china. he would dramatically rebuild the american military and he wants to wipe out isis. it's true that is surrounded by tweeting and other stuff but the fact is there is a lot of substance in trump. just substance which unnerves washington. give you example. trump recently questioned nato. i don't think that is wrong. what he actually said was they aren't paying their fair share. i was in meetings in 2001 in the

bush administration when they were saying they aren't paying their fair share. they aren't doing their job. i think, bob corker is a very smart man. he is a very good chairman of the committee. i actually think it is healthy for the world to understand that a free society is having a huge argument. that the truth is we don't know where we're going to end up. and fact is we are troubled, that the chance pacific partnership deal is huge, complex deal and people can legitimately question it without being in any way wrong. first of all they don't publish it all. so you don't even know what the whole deal is. second we have not been winning. we've been fighting for 14 years, almost 15 years since 9/11. that would put us in 1956, if you take pearl harbor to 1956. we won the war in four years. fair to say that requires rethinking. the chinese are being very aggressive in the south china sea. that requires -- so a lot of

places frankly having the u.s. do what it does most brilliantly, go to the american people, have a big argument for a while, and then resettle once wee talked it out. i think is fine. when we do talk it out, we'll still be the leading country in the world. andrea: do you see a candidate that can do that? >> i don't want to prejob. these are all smart candidates. sanders is kind of whack. harris: okay. >> as much as i dislike hillary, hillary is very smart and very hard-working and very knowledgeable. cruz is brilliant and trump is phenomenon. any one of these three could help reorganize? harris: john kasich? >> i think kasich is tremendous person. i don't list him because i think his best future is vice president. andrea: new poll says race relations are growing worse under president obama. it comes on heels finding that the chicago police department is plagued with institutional racism. how did we get to this point? weren't we supposed to be entering a post-racial era with

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♪ sandra: the state of race relations apparently taking a turn for the worse. in the city of chicago a task force released a blistering report this week, accusing the city's police department of institutional racism. it cited various statistics saying the data supports the conclusion, quote, that the police have no record for the sanctity of life when it comes to people of color. this comes as a "gallup poll" finds 35% of americans say they are worried a great deal about race relations. that number more than double what it was just two years ago. the highest level in 15 years. speaker what do you make of the findings of this report? >> well i don't know, because i don't know who wrote the report and i don't know where they're coming from. i think it is astonishing that you have a massive increase in murders in chicago.

so it's a great time to beat up the police force. and i keep asking people, you know, the city of new york starting with giuliani has reduced the murder rate by over 75%. that means if you think "black lives matter," there are a lot of african-americans alive in new york today who would not have been if we still had the murder rate of 1983. sandra: biggest conflict people have, here we are, president obama, from the sy of chicago, first african-american president running the united states, you see stories like this unfold? >> i do a free newsletter at gingrich productions brief commercial, people can sign up for. last week one of my newsletters was tragedy of the president going to the university of chicago to make purely political speech about the supreme court, without commenting die before first quarter they had enormous number of increase in shootings. he seems to have no interest in the people of chicago. harris: a powerful messenger are

missing the message what i read. a couple details in the report, you will find this interesting. the task force was hand-picked by mayor resume emanuel. 190 pages of this report on the chicago police department. you see a strong connection with the person there who put this together. >> the question i would ask is, and i'm not defending the chicago police department per se, but i would point out that when giuliani faced with similar attacks he always sided with the police. got into huge arguments but his point was, you first have to protect people's lives. the question chicago should be asking is, how come there are 800 and some shootings so far this year? >> yeah. >> that is dramatically deep. what could they learn from new york that would enable them to have the kind of policing that we know, we know literally works, has saved thousands of lives? instead there is automatic reversion to racism and this is going to be one of obama's tragic legacies to this country.

i tell people he has done three things. he has increased racial tensions, he has dramatic i believely increased number of guns purchased by americans, and below the presidency has increased the strength of republican party more than any president in modern times. going to be very weird legacy is. sandra: melissa, the question becomes how do you fix it, how do you turn something like this around that is enormous task? >> drilling down deeper on this problem they found thousands of complaints that went nowhere, nothing. people made complaints and they went into some bin far away. you look on, at the black on black violence. they have very strong gun corol yet there are everywhere. this is city where every single thing has gone wrong and rahm emanuel is in charge. there is so much blame to go around, to pin it on rice, i'm sure there is racial component, but there is component of everything in that disaster, but nobody is stepping up with a solution.

andrea: rahm emanuel is doing this to distract from himself. he is corrupt one. agree with you, mr. speaker. you can't totally defend the police because there is corruption everywhere in chicago. this is maritime magazine hailed the man turning chicago around. >> left-wing politicians can not succeed anywhere. so they yell racism. and you're either homophobe or racist because if you are a normal, or sexist, because if you're normal person your critique would be so devastating because they would collapse. sandra: to reiterate mayor rahm emanuel hand-picked task force members. they released names of those interviewed. in report it highlights a utter absence of culture of accountability. that is really horrible to hear things like this. more political correctness run amok. a major public university this week holding a workshop to shame white students over their supposed privilege. your task money is helping to pay for seminars like that?

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andrea: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first to heather chilledder with what is coming up in the second

hour of "happening now." >> hi, andrea. major russian aggression prompting tough talk from secretary derry. how he said the u.s. military could have retaliated after russian jets came too close to comfort in our navy destroyer. two bandits expected to leave with a bag full of how a homeowner who was not even there thwarted the robbery and scared those bandits off. a month into spring, one place expected to see two feet of snow this weekend. who is in the cross-hairs of the wacky weather system. andrea: did not sigh the state of new york so i'm happy. >> exactly. as long as it is not here. >> going off to college used to be about learning but may be more of a guilt trip. university of wisconsin-madison this week hosting a privilege-shaming workshop, that is what it is called designed for white students, allowing them to quote to name the way

privilege impacts their beliefs and behaviors by gaining skills to identify the historical roots of white privilege and how it manifests today. this follows similar conferences at other public universities this week. miami university of ohio buying for students to attend a white privilege conference in pennsylvania. in january oregon state hosted racially-segregated social justice retreats. and last november the university of vermont held a three-day retreat so students who, quote, self-identify as white, could confront their privilege. in case you're wondering, speaker, what white privilege, latinos, united for change at iowa state, symptoms you can get haircut wherever you want, supermarket you find your favorite foods, see yourself postively portrayed in the media and speak your native tongue without getting looks and comments from other people. harris: native tongue? >> what do you think about this?

is there a shred of this. >> i have friends who are serbian, speak their native tongue and people stare at them and they're white. >> okay. >> every taxpayer in the country worries about cost of college and cost of government, demand legislators and governors get all this stuff gone. wipe this out. this is industry idiots wandering aren't the money to guilt trip. >> i love that. >> we tolerate ad level of fascism, people come in and say, first of all we were talking a little while ago about race. let's say you are 1/3 white, quarter, his panic, one quarter asian and one quarter block. which racial groups do you go to in the retreat racially segragated? harris: answers my question. we were talking about having biracial children and having open conversations about that. >> it's a total violation of being american. >> okay. >> to try to define this kind of

garbage. taxpayers shouldn't pay for it. if private universities want to waste their money that is what freedom is about. no taxpayer paid institution should engage in stupidity training kids to get a job. >> harris, let me ask you, this is the basic argument. white people spent decades building wealth while many of our ancestors were blocked from buying homes, building businesses. white families doubled wealth on average as families of color because of this history. there is validity in that point. that is the basis of this argument. harris: you and i talked about this before. economic access is part of the issue here. joblessness within the black communities is part of issue here. after ferguson, missouri, i did not hear from the white house there is going to be a huge job expo. we very well know people rioting in the streets, many of them indigenous to the area, not coming in from other areas very much need jobs. we look at areas in minneapolis there is concentration of african communities and particularly those from the

african continent, most recently somalia where unemployment is up above 20%, right? so there are some areas where we need to concentrate. but this is something that really struck my mind. so perspective attendees to these white privilege conferences were informed that the workshop was designed for a white audience but people of color were still welcome. so they're racist by their very nature. you're not even welcome to make it more diverse. should you be, i don't know, biracial? andrea: if purpose is acceptance and everyone be equal, everyone get along why are they segregating? >> that is excellent question. that's what this does. andrea: pushing guilt upon white people and bad about power and access. we have presidential candidate hillary clinton talking about this, everything you ticked off, melissa, haircut wherever you want, kristof, 600 bucks wherever bill clinton went. she fits her own bill doing grocery shopping which i'm sure she doesn't do either. that group of idiots is pushing

this, is one side. >> question how you want your society to develop. historically we said to people who were boar poor get a job. left say don't get a job at mcdonald's. remember that whole cycle. get a job at mcdonald's because it is largest training program in the world. it teaches you to show up for work and deal with customers and you get a better job. so historically we're a dynamic society. what these people want to do, very much like orwell's 1984, impose a ruthless mind set. >> we got to go. we could listen to you all day. we'll be right back. hey!

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