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"the kelly file" right here for the complete coverage of the battle for new york. we'll be live as the polls close in the empire state and have live reports and complete coverage from brit humes, stewart stevens, debbie wasserman-schultz. ought to be interesting. it was the last time. see you then. tuesday voters head to the polls in battle for new york state. michael cohen, peter townsend jr., geraldo rivera weigh in. the majority rule. that is an american concept that i can't imagine us turning our backs on. >> then rnc chairman reince priebus stands by the rules that a candidate needs a majority of delegates to win the nomination. does this mean we're headed for an ugly contested convention showdown? >> hillary clinton. we can't let it happen. >> and donald trump unveils hillary clinton's new nickname. plus, the democrats have a major problem -- >> could you support hillary clinton if she won the nomination? >> absolutely not.
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bernie or bust. >> i want to be mean. the devil. >> bernie sanders supporters cannot stand hillary clinton. "hannity" starts right here right now. welcome to "hannity." while the new york voters head to the polls tomorrow and according to the real clear politics average, donald trump holds a sizable lead in the empire state, he's in first place with 53.1% of the vote. governor kasich is in second with 22.8%. senator ted cruz in third with 18.1%. now donald trump held a rally earlier this evening in buffalo, new york. take a look. >> we are going to bring buffalo back. we're going to bring new york back. and we're going to bring the united states of america back. and we love this state and we love new york values. do we agree? we love new york values. do not get discouraged. i'm telling you. i'm bring it back fast. you watch what happens. we're not making bad trade
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deals. we're going to end all the nonsense and bring jobs back to the united states and that includes buffalo. that includes buffalo. every single country, no matter what, you can look at everyone, you can call out a name, every single country that we do business with we end up with the short end of the stick, and it's going to end here. it's going to end. we're bringing our jobs back here. >> now 95 delegates are up for grabs on the republican side. over the weekend senator ted cruz, he picked up 14 delegates in wyoming and here's where the delegate count currently stands. trump has 756. cruz in second with 559. kasich in third with 144 delegates. here now with reaction, fox news legal analyst peter johnson jr., fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera, and from the trump organization, michael cohen. donald trump seems to be very angry at the process.
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the rnc. a number of states where people haven't voted and the delegates have gone to ted cruz. explain. >> well, there's no way to explain it. makes no sense that there's -- it's really supposed to be about the will of the people, not about the will of the delegates. and to me it just seems odd that he's bringing in these massive crowds, 20,000, 25,000, 30,000, like tonight in buffalo, 25,000, 30,000 people. clearly he's the one they want and yet by going in and offering as ted cruz has been doing wine or dinners or whatever, look what he's doing, he's now pilfering from the process. >> what he's doing is he's also going into states, for example, if you want to look at south carolina, kansas, florida, georgia, over the weekend, what he's doing is he's going to trump delegates and saying on the second ballot we want you to flip. now, for example -- >> that's the par that reince priebus should be speaking saying, hey, guys, that's not how you're going to unify our party. that's how you're going to
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destroy it. and he's not doing that. it's a mistake. >> should -- in other words, everybody knew the rules going in. that's reince priebus' argument. what do you say back to them hi? >> i think the rules are constantly changing. there are not a set of rules for the convention. they're not going to start even -- >> that is an odd thing. >> until after california. it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. >> geraldo? >> i'm sorry, michael, i love donald trump and he's clearly the people's choice. there is a process that has been neglected by your organization that is very glaring. how can you let cruz sneak into wyoming and steal 14 delegates right under your nose? i mean, it is reprehensible. it is a rigged system. it is every kind of derogatory term you can use to explain it, but it is the system in place and he has legally stolen 14 delegates and donald with all of the popularity, even as cruz plummets in terms of popularity, his delegate count is increasing. i think the donald should have
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cut him off at the knees, not only with his popularity, you should have hired a couple of lawyers to get into every one of those states, rally up the crowd and play the game. >> this 14 is the tip of the iceberg. donald trump has this 1,000% right and is pointing to the corruption of the political system in the united states. tomorrow, in new york state, people will vote. they'll likely pick donald trump. he may get all the delegates in the state, but it won't be until may, may, sean, when the delegates are actually selected. the party bosses will pick the delegates. and so if you're voting for donald trump tomorrow, if you're lucky, you're going to get one shot at it on the first ballot. after that, it's the party bosses who will decide -- >> this is very important what you're saying. >> this is a scam. >> that if donald trump wants to get the nomination, he better get it on the first ballot. >> oh, yes. >> because he won't get it after that. >> a favor with the party bosses and state committee people.
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they changed the rules in new york a year ago. in the democratic primary in new york, you vote for the person who's pledged to that candidate. here the people are going to be pledged to the party bosses that brought them to the dance and they're going to go home with the people that brought them to the dance because they want to come to the next dance. >> do you have any issue with the fact that ted cruz -- well, donald could have gone to colorado and ted cruz did go there but with that said, the people didn't vote there. in other words, i like a caucus, fine, primary, fine, conventions i have problems with because all the people don't have an opportunity to participate. but with that said, in other words, do you think they need to play the game stronger, the ground game? >> so he lost 14 -- okay. but listen, he's new to it, he's not a genius at all things. okay. he got taken by the political machine. he won't next time. that's why i think he's pointing out to people that they need to vote if they want to come out
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and have their votes count, they need to speak out. >> i'm laughing because of something trump said. it's so true. he said, no one has better planes than i do, no one has better places to take people on on my better planes than i do. i could have taken them to mar-a-lago. he could have outbribed anybody. >> was it a bribery game? >> i think that when you are courting delegates in the way that it seems apparent to me, i never -- >> you mean they're wining and dining. >> i never really thought about it. washington's restaurants, washington, d.c., restaurants, would not exist but for the fact that delegates and elected officials are being wined and dined by people seeking favors. is it illegal? no. but is it distasteful? it is exactly why sanders and trump are appealing to people not normally engaged -- >> it won't matter in the end, will it? >> it's probably not going to matter because i believe mr. trump will get to 1,237 before the convention. >> i agree. >> i do. >> i think he gets it. >> i really do.
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>> he starts to be -- he's doing very well in new york and california. >> look at the 70-some-odd delegates in pennsylvania. if he wins the state, he's up by 20, okay, he'll only get 17 delegates delegates. then people are voting not for trump or not for cruz, they're voting for a delegate and they don't have the delegate the candidate is supporting next to the -- >> this has gone on. the democrats have been great at it. my father ran against it, ran against hall in new york to change the primary system in new york city. but it stinks and it's cheap and it's tawdry and it robs people of the right to vote. >> absolutely. 100%. >> once new york goes and new jersey and pennsylvania and maryland and connecticut and then california, the arithmetic will take care of itself. the momentum will be so profound. it will roll to 1,237. >> there's a battle and politico wrote about this today, within the republican party, they got this rules committee meeting taking place in hollywood, florida, on thursday, friday, and saturday this week and what they're trying to do, there's a
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major, quote, breach of trust, the rnc just days out of this meeting the rules committee accused its own party leadership of a major breach in trust trying to block a rule change they say would make it harder to re-open the gop nomination to, in other words, to bring in the white knight candidate. >> this is the eighth state. you have to win eight states. if you don't win eight states, you're not qualified. >> they're going to change that one at this late -- >> the gop is going to pull out every trick in the book to beat donald trump. so what is the answer? every trick in the book. if he doesn't win on the first ballot, he's not going to be the nominee. >> he has to win it on the first ballot. we have to continue with the momentum that he's going to see tomorrow in new york. he's going to take it throughout the northeast. this is his home. this is where he's strongest despite the great showing -- >> how is he going to do in indiana? how is he going to do in california? >> california he's going to do great. >> he's got double digits.
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>> it was 49%-31% the latest poll. >> he's going to do great in california, do great across the northeast. the nice part is as he's continuing state after state, building the momentum, it's going to be all about donald trump. >> hypothetical, he shows up 30 short. >> they have to give it to him. >> i think that if they deny him the nomination at that stage due to that brutal arithmetic, it will be the end of the republican party. >> peter? >> i agree. >> this is america. >> what if it's 50, 60 short, 70 short? >> fair play. >> there is a number -- >> what is that number? >> not in double digits, i agree with geraldo. >> north of 100. >> you agree, peter? by the way, here's the other thing, you still have 150 or so unbound delegates who can go any way they want. are day susceptible to wining and dining? >> everybody's susceptible to wining and dining. >> trump didn't want to play that game. he didn't want to play the -- >> he should have played it. >> -- the superpac money, didn't want to play that game. he wants to win this and wants
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to win it the right way for the american people. >> he could have done it with his tip money if he wanted to. >> he should have gone to some -- >> tip money? >> -- graduate school. >> he's not going to play that. >> this is true, st. augustinian he said i've sworn off -- >> as corrupt as this american system is, the whole superdelegate -- >> it stinks. it stinks. >> it is so corrupt. bernie sanders could win without superdelegates. >> it stinks in both parties but at least in new york, the democrats have it in a fairer way than the republicans do. >> all right, guys. good to see you. thank you. coming up next tonight on "hannity" -- >> first of all, having a plurality of the delegates means that the field has the majority. so you have to have the majority. >> so are republicans headed to a contested convention? that's next. plus tonight -- >> we have crooked hillary. crooked hillary, folks.
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she's been crooked from the beginning. >> donald trump unveils his new nickname for hillary clinton. we'll get to that. and also later tonight -- >> i am a communist. i'd rather be -- trump sucks, okay, he's a joke. >> radical left wing agitators protesting donald trump in new york city. we'll show you more of that exclusive video straight ahead tonight on "hannity."
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require a candidate to have majority, that is 1,237 delegates needed in order to win the nomination. take a look. >> first of all, having a plurality of the delegates means that the field has the majority. so you have to have the majority. i mean, it's the united states of america. that's what we're founded on. electoral college is a majority, the dnc does it the same way. no. the majority rules and that is an american concept that i can't imagine us turning our backs on. >> and here now with reaction are real clear politics senior election analyst sean trende and "washington examiner" contributor, president and founder of high noon strategies, lisa boothe. good to see you both. lisa, let me start with you. >> hi, sean. >> good to see you. >> hi. >> there was a politico story today that actually talked about the issues, a proposal that would reduce, or drastically alter, i should say, the convention and how it would function and potentially affecting whether party insiders could draft a so-called white
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knight at a deadlocked convention. i think most people more than anything else they want to know if, in fact, that can happen. >> well, look, it depends on what happens. honestly, quite honestly, it depends on what happens with the convention rules committee which are going to meet before the convention in july. what's happening this week is the rnc spring meeting where the standing rules committee, they can make recommendations ultimately has to be decided upon the delegates chosen by their state delegation to the convention rules committee. ultimately i don't think this scenario is going to play out. chairman priebus, himself, has said he does not want any changes to be made. the reality is these guys have a target on their back. they're under a microscope right now. so any changes are going to be heavily scrutinized and you've got candidates with john kasich and ted cruz and donald trump and most specifically ted cruz and donald trump who have gotten 80-something percent of the votes combined who are going to make sure and going to create noise if there are any rules
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changes like that that are made. >> all right. and let me ask, if i can, sean, if you go to this letter that bruce ash criticizing reince priebus and, you know, sending it to his supporters, the bottom line is here, they're saying, as the powerful rules committee accusing the party leadership of a major breach of trust in trying to block a rule that he said would make it harder to re-open the nomination fight at a contested convention. so, did they really want to make it harder or did they want to make it easier? that's what i want to know. >> you know, it depends what the rules committee ultimately wants to do. it's not just two or three members. it's a large body. two members from each state. so i think at the end of the day, you know, the correct analysis is this is so under the microscope, it's not going to be a typical process and they're going to be pretty reluctant to change the rules at all just because of the bad publicity. >> yeah. lisa, let me ask you about this.
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you really have two different campaigns going on because i think ted cruz concluded he's not going to get to 1,237 so he's working on second-ballot switching. the trump campaign has not had as aggressive a ground game. they're not doing the same thing on their front. is that a mistake? and is this all fair in love and war and politics? >> a little bit of both. donald trump's criticisms if you look at wyoming and colorado, i think that is real. however, donald trump is the king of the shiny object. i think a larger part of this conversation in the dialogue he has is actually to deter the conversation from ted cruz having a more organized campaign and donald trump to reiterate the us against them kind of conversation and narrative he has been driving. this is smart, it's smart from a communications tactic. this is something his campaign has pushed forward. this is a narrative he's been driving. donald trump really needs to drive it home. he's got new york tomorrow, 95 delegates at stake. april 26th, another big day for him with a bunch of northeastern
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states at play that he could do quite well in. the next couple weeks are going to be huge for him to try to perform. then you have indiana. it's really up to donald trump to try to bring this home. right now he's the only candidate that can do so but that path is narrow so he also needs to be focused on the delegates, too. >> sean, if candidate "a" has won more states, has millions of more votes, hundreds of more delegates and doesn't get the nomination, how big -- how resentful are those supporters of that candidate going to be if, in fact, that candidate doesn't make it? >> oh, i think it's going to be a luge problem for the rnc and for republicans if that happens. the resentment is going to be lie high but at the same time this is a 150-year-old rule in the gop you need to have a majority of the delegates. >> they also changed it a lot over the years, too. i think there ought to be some uniformity. tell me if you luike this. should states choose between a caucus or primary, allowed to choose winner take all,
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proportional. should every elected delegate be bound on the first ballot and start there, no more conventions, always allow the people in the individual states to participate? that means either a primary or caucus and no other option? >> well, i think going forward -- i think this whole process has shined a light on a lot of kind of screwy rules that have in place for a while. i agree there has to be reform. the 1,237, the 50% rule is a 150-year-old rule, to, you know, and there have been lots of candidates that have had pluralities that have not gone on to be the nominee. abraham lincoln didn't have a majority on the first ballot. lincoln eventually became the consensus candidate. >> yeah. last word, lisa. >> sean, i think the most important thing here is to ensure that it's one of the candidates that are running. that would be the big story if it's not them. republican leaders need to hear what republican voters are saying. they're saying they do not want an establishment candidate. we've seen eight governors come and go. four senators come and go. and as i mentioned before, if you look at donald trump and ted cruz, they've gotten the lions
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share of the vote so i think the republican party needs to be smart, listen to the republican voter. however, i do think you need to get a majority vote because this is something that's been ongoing for over a century. >> all right, guys. good to see you both. thank you very much. and coming up on this busy news night tonight on "hannity" -- >> we have crooked hillary. crooked hillary, folks. she's been crooked from the beginning. >> trump reveals his new nickname for hillary clinton. she's trying to brush it aside. monica crowley, kirsten powers here with reaction. later tonight -- >> could you support hillary clinton? >> bernie or bust. >> bernie or nobody else? >> bernie or there's going to be a revolution in this country. >> a high percentage of bernie sanders supporters say they refuse to support hillary clinton if she's the party's nominee. we sent david webb to a sanders rally. we'll play you that video and much more tonight on "hannity."
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president. crooked hillary clinton. we can't let it happen. you can't let it happen. and let me tell you, the only person that crooked hillary clinton does not want to run against is donald trump. >> that's a good name. anyway, yesterday during an interview with abc news, and of course clinton's sycophant george stephanopoulos asked about her new nickname. >> that's the new nickname, crooked hillary, your response? >> i don't respond to donald trump and his string of insults about me. i can take care of myself. i look forward to running against him if he turns out to be the republican nominee, if i am the democratic nominee. what i'm concerned about is how he goes after everybody else. he goes after women, goes after muslims, goes after immigrants, goes after people with disabilities. he is hurting our unity at home. he is undermining the values
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that we stand for in new york and across america, and he's herring us around the world. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i real will could care less. >> joining us with reaction, kirsten powers, monica crowley, and i would argue hillary and her team go after women, monica, that, by the way, he has not been kind to. >> look, that was pure projection on hillary's part accusing donald trump of slicing and dicing the electorate. this is what the clintons already do, are going to do heading into a general election. she's terrified to run against donald trump. look, what we know about trump's campaign style is he's a fierce competitor and fights to win so he assigns nicknames to his opponents and they stick. why? because they reinforce a pre-existing concern about that candidate. whether it's low energy jeb or little marco. crooked hillary is going to stick. she knows that. her honesty and trustworthy numbers have never been good. they have at historical lows for
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her because of the fbi investigation, the e-mail scandal, the clinton foundation scandal. i think she is much more concerned than she lets on. she can roll her eyes all day long, but she's going to have to counter this narrative and at this point in her life and career, i don't think it's possible. >> i agree with that analysis. kirsten, i'm curious if you do. >> well, i actually don't think that hillary is as fearful of trump as i think a lot of republicans -- >> maybe she should be. >> -- think she is. i think maybe she should be. i think that's right. i think there maybe has been some growing concern, originally i think the hope was that it would be trump and that he would be easy to beat because i think that they feel they could turn basically all the things that she said, you know, that he's misogynist, he's racist, all these accusations that would be able to turn people against him and also obviously really gin up the democratic base. so, you know, maybe they're becoming more concerned. i'm sure they have concerns about the fact that he's going to go after her in ways that nobody ever has before.
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and that will have to be managed and, look, he's dispatched with a lot of people, you know, including marco rubio who was the star of the republican party and i don't think anybody would have predicted that things would have ended the way they did. >> the one exchange they did have, which was over when hillary, you know, used the gender card against donald trump -- >> right. >> -- he hit back hard but more importantly effectively. and it shut them down very quickly. i don't think i'd ever seen that with the clintons before. >> yeah. i think, well, no, i think that's exactly right because, again, he goes places that other people won't go, and -- >> i go there. >> well, people running for president. >> okay. i'm not running for president. touche. good point. >> and so i think that maybe lesson learned there, but i don't know, we'll have to see. i mean, if he's the nominee and she's the nominee then i think it's going to be a very interesting race. >> i don't think there will be any ammo left on the table,
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monica crowley, when this is all said and done. >> oh, yeah. >> donald trump will drop the kitchen sink and i don't think they're used to that. they're used to being on offense. they will be on defense. >> yeah. and she's already on defense because the clintons are in certain ways she is playing by an old rule book. donald trump is a fierce new yorker and a tough competitor, but moreover, he's not a politician. so he's not playing according to any of the standard political rules. he doesn't care she's a clinton. he doesn't care she's a woman. when he blasted bill clinton for the womanizing and the abuse of women -- >> and hillary the enabler. >> and hillary the enabler. he doesn't care. a lot of that stuff can -- kirsten, our good friend, wrote a column about this as well. there are a lot of democrats saying we should take a second look at this because what he did was not right. drup druonald trump doesn't car. he's going to take it to the clintons. they have been treated with kid gloves for a long time and aren't ready for this.
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>> kirsten, i read your column when you met with donald trump and i thought he gave a very interesting assessment and i also know that you've not been the biggest hillary clinton fan over the years so where are you coming down here? >> well, i mean, the truth is i'm not -- i don't have a candidate in this race. there's nobody -- >> you're going to stay home and watch "hannity" and just not vote? >> exact -- well, probably -- i probably won't vote or i'll vote and write somebody in but i don't feel there's any candidate that completely speaks to me. >> i say vote for monica. put monica's name in. >> exactly. monica crowley for president. >> two votes already. that's good. >> my column on trump, what i tried to do was just be fair. i mean, i have been very hard on him on a lot of things. we in particular really disagree about immigration. and, you know, but i did try to just to be fair and he happened to be at a point when i met with him where he had things to say and i reported on that. i don't think i really assessed him per se. i more i think just tried to,
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you know, put some new information out there about him to try to -- to help other people make their own assessment of him. >> what do you make of what we've been discussing all night, monica, that is the republican party trying to do everything in their power to prevent him from getting to 1,237? does he get there? >> that's still an open question. we don't know. ted cruz is still giving him a run for his money but donald trump is about to enter a very good stretch for him. starting tomorrow in new york where he's expected to win big. other northeast states, mid-atlantic states coming up next, he's leading by double digits. then we move on, though, to the midwest and the sea could turn back to ted cruz in indiana, nebraska, and some of the other states. this is going to go down to the wire to june 7th. every time the establishment moves against donald trump, it helps him. >> right. >> actually because it helps him with the grassroots who are totally supportive of him -- >> if he's within 100, does he get it, does he have to get it? >> look, you're going to have to ask reince priebus and others in control of this process. i think if he's within 100, give
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or take a few, they're going to have a hell of a time making their argument against him. >> good to see you. thank you. coming up next tonight on "hannity" -- >> she's okay. i don't want to be mean. >> just be honest. it's your answer. >> the devil. >> democratic party, they have their own problems. bernie sanders supporters like that one telling david webb they can't stand hillary clinton and won't vote for her if she's the nominee. that and more and this tonight -- >> i am a communist. i'd rather be communist. trump sucks. okay? he's a joke. >> a self-proclaimed black lives matter communist slams donald trump at a protest last week in new york. we have more on that exclusive video from rebel pundit as "hannity" continues. quite like the human foot. introducing the 255 horsepower lexus is 300 all-wheel-drive.
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the state of new york. yesterday, according to his campaign, over 28,000 people attended a rally in brooklyn, new york. okay. we sent david webb to a sanders campaign event to find out exactly what bernie supporters think of hillary clinton. it's not pretty. take a look. >> you think hillary clinton's honest? >> no, i don't. >> reporter: is she honest? >> i think -- >> i don't know. that was an eye roll. tell me what you really think. >> i think she's honest to the people that pay her. >> she's okay. i don't want to be mean. >> reporter: be honest. it's your answer. >> the devil. >> always changing her mind on everything. >> reporter: is there something you like about hillary? >> not really. >> reporter: do you like hillary clinton? >> no way. >> reporter: is she honest? >> sleuthly not. >> reporter: if you won the nomination would you vote for her? >> i know she's not honest. i've been watching her the last
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15 years. >> reporter: will she lose the nomination? >> yes, i think with the help of debbie wasserman-schultz, both those ladies are corrupt to the core. >> reporter: would you support hillary clinton if she -- >> absolutely not. bernie or bust. >> reporter: bernie or nobody else? >> yep, bernie or there's going to be a revolution in this country. >> reporter: if she won the nomination, could you support her? [ cheering ] >> i might throw up but i might have to do it anyway. >> here with reaction, with have conservative columnist a.j. delgado, fox news contributor, former clinton pollster doug schoen and sirius xm talk host, david webb. the devil, honest to people who pay her, dishonest, kpaent suppo can't support her, no way, don't like her. did you get anybody who liked her in the bernie -- >> no. >> none? >> that tells us two things, bernie's message has sunk in with his supporters about
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hillary's untrustworthiness, she lies, they see her as the corporatist, being in the palm of wall street. on the other side, the bernie camp better start telling the truth about the crowds at their rally. i was in washington park. you can't fit that many people in washington park. >> that's probably true. maybe at best 12,000. >> but all the grass was closed off. >> okay. >> but it's like his importance to the race, it's a bit overinflated. >> said 28,000 at the brooklyn rally. >> but said 27,000 at the washington square park. not even close. >> so the question is, if they're that angry and think she's that corrupt and they're so enthusiastic about the communist curmudgeon from vermont, the question is are they going to show up if hillary gets the nomination which it appears it's in the bag because your system is so blatantly corrupt? >> exactly. of course they'll show up because they'll be voting against ted cruz or donald trump whichever gets the nomination
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and will basically be scared into voting for somebody they don't like. happens all the time. sean, you know as i do, hillary is the front-runner and likely next president. >> i don't know. >> you have to agree. >> no, i don't have to agree. i'm hoping. i will say this, i warn everybody out there, hillary starts out with 47% of the vote because half the country is stark raving mad and hasn't learned a thing from the obama years. a.j., your thoughts, does corrupt hillary -- bernie is kind of using it but not as effectively as trump, does that nickname take him far and does that image get burned in people's minds? >> absolutely. hillary has a history of corruption going back to whitewater, going back to her bill clinton days. that's a given. as a trump supporter, we kind of empathize with the bernie supporters here, sean. we're both fighting against a candidate, on our side it's ted cruz also owned by goldman sachs, also in fave or of off shoring our jobs. when i hear bernie supporters express their frustration about the process and its establishment candidate that
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they're battling against, we're doing the same thing on the right, trump supporters. there's these strange bedfellows we kind of empathize with each other, trump and bernie. >> exactly my point. cruz and trump are killing each other off. all this does is help my candidate, hillary clinton. >> stay right there. when we come back. >> no, oh, come on. >> when we come back, this is what you're going to see next. >> i am a communist. i'd rather be communist. trump sucks. okay? he's a joke. >> rebel pundit filmmakers, they spoke to anti-trump protesters in new york city last week. we got that video and more straight ahead. ♪ the sun'll come out tomorrow... ♪ for people with heart failure, tomorrow is not a given.
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welcome back to "hannity." last week in new york city, left-wing demonstrators gathered outside the new york state republican gala. filmmakers jeremy siegel and andrew marcus from rebelpundit.com interviewed many of the protesters including this supporter of the black lives matter movement. take a look. >> i am a communist. i'd rather be communist. trump sucks. okay? he's a joke. and no, i'm not for hillary because her husband sold us out.
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she had his back. and she's a sellout, too. >> all right. then they found a protester that said check your white privilege. watch this. >> your white privilege, [ muted ] up. you don't talk to people of color and tell them -- >> i believe -- >> commenting about white privilege. >> yes. >> trying to find somebody that can explain white privilege. >> we continue with our panel. so a.j., by the way, that movement got into the white house. al sharpton gets into the white house. hillary clinton and bernie sanders kissing the ring of al sharpton. does anybody not have the courage to stand up to this group which said pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon, talking about cops? >> what i'd tell black lives matter, black jobs matter.
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if you care about jobs donald trump should be your candidate. illegal immigrants taking jobs tepid tend to be, read the studies, young black men. i guess they don't care what is racist is not supporting his jobs plan. >> how do you get to the point where you can't say all lives matter without your guys apologizing? >> politicians are cowards. black lives matter is a farce, it's somhing ginned up to drive a narrative, a dangerous narrative. look at what they did in chicago. 157,000 last year in this period. now, crime on the rise. that is what happens. look at what they've done. bernie sanders is out there praying to them practically. there is an answer. it's known as bill clinton. he spoke up, defended the crime bill, did the right thing.
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he's in the a sellout. we do need jobs. >> bill clinton criticized obama in the last eight years and his wife has to contradict him. >> and come back, sean. >> this is phony, fake and a fraud. >> politics means lying by definition. >> so win by lie something. >> right. >> win by flipping, flopping and flailing. >> let's do this, guys. let's talk to black lives matter just a moment to let you both just said. for all of you that want to follow black lives matter and this left wing communist agenda, you're being lied to. you claim white privilege. put two white people on the side
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of the aisle, they're lying to you. how much of a fool do you feel like? >> principles don't matter. the truth doesn't matter. she will say, you're great. anything she needs to say. >> that is right. >> you just admitted -- >> you helped them lie. >> you admitted she's going to help them go to the left. so he's admitted hillary will lie to the people. >> call it what you will, she's going to win. >> the right strategy is lying. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. >> but think of what you're saying. you're saying you encourage her to lie. lie. don't be honest. be a phony, be a frak. be a fraud. >> they've been lying to blacks for decade. the black community sold it's soul to the democrats rather than having them compete for
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their votes. >> and they don't help black americans. look at the eight years under obama. >> under clinton, much better. you're going to hear about that. bill clinton is -- >> bill clinton is not running. >> yes. he is. >> hillary is not bill clinton. she's not barack obama. >> yes. >> aj. >> you will see a lot of black americans coming to trump as they have. why? they just want jobs. that is what trump will give them. >> doug is partially right.xd democrats still believe in that god complex. >> those kids -- >> the problem is that we've got to get to that point. >> you're just lying. >> freedom, liberty.
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