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i could love it on one hand. i'm a mom of a whole bunch dogs but on other hand -- >> would you take yours? >> a yappy dog barking whole time, that would be pretty annoying. they are pretty well-based. >> winston, not so much. see you back here in an hour. >> "outnumbered" starts now. ♪ harris: this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, sandra smith. nationally syndicated radio talk show host meghan mccain. democratic strategist, julie roginsky, she is awake after a long night. today's #oneluckyguy "washington times" columnist charlie hurt. he says he is "outnumbered" but he says he is ready. >> i am. glad to be back. harris: absolutely. big night, we'll get to it. front-runner strike back in the empire state. sound like a new movie. donald trump and hillary clinton bouncing book from their
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previous struggles of late. winning on their home turf of new york. hillary clinton beat bernie sanders by 15 points. donald trump crushed the competition, beating his nearest rival governor john kasich, 35 points. ted cruz a distant third. despite the victory, trump is railing what he calls a rigged nomination system. he argued he should get the nod if he comes into the convention with the most delegates. watch. >> nobody should take delegates and claim victory until they get those delegates with voters and voting and that is what is going to happen. you watch. [applause] because the people aren't going to stand for it. it is a crooked system. is is a system that is rigged. we're going back to the old way. it is called you vote and you win. harris: ted cruz went after trump for whining about the process as he put it accusing his campaign of having no idea what it's doing. >> the actual delegates that go to cleveland are elected by the people.
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if you want to elect delegates your supporters come and vote. every other presidential can diet knows how to this out. by the way every presidential candidate known how to figure this out in every prior cycle. donald trump campaign doesn't know what they're doing. it is a kim card ard reality show. harris: one thing they're doing, charlie, is winning. what do you think his point is exactly? >> this is kind of a tough argument for ted cruz to be making most people out there do think it is, that you win with votes and you know, people already, and this is what, you know donald trump has tapped into from the very beginning, people are very frustrated. they're not happy. they feel like the system is broken. they feel particularly like the government is broken. and so when you try to make this argument about delegates and superdelegates and unbound, all this kind of stuff it is not a very strong argument to be making in a election like this. harris: you know what? i want to throw up some numbers on the screen i doubt that many
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americans ever concentrated this hard how delegates are -- >> especially this late in the game. harris: fox news new york gop exit poll showed that new york republicans want the decision to be made by votes. they think that the person who has the most votes, 68% of them say, that should be the person who gets the nod, the nomination. rather than how many delegates they have. what are your thoughts on this? >> this is what is going to be debated. you will continue to hear this from donald trump. ted cruz's camp will easily make the argument this was donald trump's home state. he shouldn't be running runninge can't win his home state. my what a difference a state makes. after wisconsin we were talking about momentum behind ted cruz. here we have the victory in new york, landslide victory in donald trump's case. now we're all saying it is a lock for donald trump. i'm just curious, charlie, did that much happen between wisconsin and now that we're now saying ted cruz is gone? obviously delegate count matters.
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>> by no means is ted cruz entirely out of this i don't think but you know, his argument, donald trump should have won because it is his home state, donald trump did a lot better here in his home state than cruz did in texas. ted cruz won texas by 44%. donald trump got 27% of the vote. and also picked up a bunch of delegates. for a guy like ted cruz who is running a campaign on, on argument look i know how to wrangle the delegates we have to go by the rules, he didn't pick up a single delegate last night? that is pretty hard -- harris: interesting point you make. i saw on social media, ted cruz took 104 delegates, but there were 156 up for grabs how you got percentages. >> on other hand, i can't believe i'm defending ted cruz on thisdy, this is interesting. >> ted cruz won texas with million votes, 1.1 million. donald trump won new york by half a million. if you're ted cruz saying that you won five republicans that
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you live in new york city. you also lost manhattan a boy pro queens making good in manhattan has to be super galling for trump. in places where republicans vote like texas, ted cruz cleaned up by a million votes. i have to say for donald trump to now come back, bernie sanders is doing this on the democratic side too, to me it is so annoying, you know what the rules are, you should have known what the rules are. his staff is incredibly incompetent. were they competent they would have done ted cruz doing, going delegate by delegate, if there is unbound delegate after the first vote, be with me even if you're trump committed delegate now. trump isn't doing that. harris: he hasn't been. we don't know what he will do forward. >> i don't know what paul manafort is doing, a little late in the game. harris: i want to watch something with me and comment t has to do with the tone, not just the tone how people got titles last night when donald trump talked about them. watch.
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>> based on what i'm seeing on television, senator cruz is just about mathematically eliminated. [cheering] we have won another state. as you know we have won millions more votes than senator cruz. millions and millions of more votes than governor kasich. we have won and now especially after tonight, close to 300 delegates more than senator cruz. harris: senator cruz, three types in 32 seconds. no lyin' ted, zero, zilch. >> i think donald trump realizes if he is going to be nominee at some point he will have to at some point uniting party. 60% of the republicans feel the race divided us. if he wants to be nominee and be our leader he will have to start uniting people. we have to stop treating election like there is rosewell landing like conspiracy on both sides. if quote establishment had this much power jeb bush would be the nominee right now.
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i think that rhetoric, also plays into something that people like me are like, really? at this point if you're going to be nominee, be the leader, get rid of the kid stuff of conspiracy -- harris: this would be a shift for meghan mccain. previous time, right i heard you say that are you willing now to get behind this candidate should he become the nominee? >> if donald trump becomes the nominee it is fair and square, gets to 1237 needed, that is the will of people. that is what people want. i think it is incredibly detrimental to the party. i worry what happens -- harris: do you support that nominee. >> i don't know, donald trump i'm sick of saying this on the show, until donald trump apologizes to my family, i will have issues. i'm old school. i'm from arizona and he said a lot of crap about p.o.w.s i will not get behind him. until he becomes kind of leader i want to get behind, which means uniting all of republicans instead of uniting us it is still a hard sell for me. harris: all right. so one of the campaign members
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says, i wouldn't be too sure to erase that about the line, nickname, lyin' ted. the campaign may break that out again. >> this has been balancing act that donald trump has sort of had to play from the beginning. on one hand, what is so appealing about him, what people liked so much about him he is so kind of, you know, rough-and-tumble and he says just whatever kind of comes out of his mouth t worked very well for him. but i agree with you make again, at some point, it is time acting more presidential. sandra: interesting to point out, charlie, tweeted out to your followers, you reminded everybody, ted cruz the second it became mathematically impossible for john kasich to get to the nomination, he said, no one should be in the race that doesn't have a mathematical chance, referring to the delegates. and here he is, without a
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mathematical chance at that 1237. >> to specifically without the aid of unbound delegates, but he crossed that river last night and and, i don't, hold your breath that he will -- harris: ask a question, and anybody can yum jump in on this, a point about iron sharpening iron. i wonder, as you look deeply at this, having kasich and cruz in helps donald cruz. i done that twice. donald trump. >> he is running fourth in three-man race, john kasich, and still has less than marco rubio. harris: who may be watching at home. >> i don't understand the argument. i have a dear friend of mine works for john kasich. he went home to my brother's wedding. he was trying to convince me -- harris: he won ohio. >> i'm tryingreally hard i want to like john kasich. i just don't. there is no logical reason for this man to be staying in the race except for ego.
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harris: you have something kind of similar on the other side except for the bernie sanders is raising $44 million in fund-raising every month. but i mean last night was a big sign to him of what exactly? >> i said it last night, i will say it again today, at some point you have to realize it is mathematically impossible, mathematically impossible, forget momentum, momentum doesn't exist in campaigns, we love to talk about but math counts. it is mathematically impossible for bernie sanders to win the nomination. he has one of two choices. he has a ton of money. he has what he considers a movement. does he want to go to the convention, more he does this, more negatives. do you want to continue weaken the person who will be nominee. he has to acknowledge she will be the nominee and get out and get behind her in a way hillary clinton sort of did but not quite when she was behind barack obama. don't forget, she stayed in until june. she had closer delegate count in pledged delegates than he does. interesting to me why he is continuing to do this. harris: back on republican side
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you wonder, john kasich, will he get out? >> no, i think he will stay into the convention but to be sure, bernie sanders is not helping hillary clinton. john kasich is probably helping donald trump but bernie sanders is not. >> it has got to sting for bernie sanders no minorities, no african-american vote is coming towards him. he is claiming to lead a revolution, yeah, with white men everywhere. it is red herring of bernie sanders mass appeal. at certain point he has to wake up to the reality he is not a broad candidate. harris: we'll go deeper on that for sure. hillary clinton saying the nomination is quote, in sight after the victory here in new york. one columnist says she has image problem that could hurt her in the general election which we were talking about. is he right and if so, can she fix it? the white house is backing vice president joe biden even after he describing overwhelming frustration with the israeli government. what it means for our relationship with the jewish state. stay put because we're going to pop up on the web when the tv
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♪ >> thank you all so much! [cheering] thank you! you know, today, today, you proved once again there is no place like home. [cheering] sandra: hillary clinton celebrating her big win in new york. the victory in her adopted home state makes it virtually impossible for vermont senator bernie sanders to catch up to her in the delegate count. some say the front-runner difficult battle is taking toll on her candidacy. one "washington post" writer says she face as deep image problem. a new "nbc news-wall street journal poll" shows clinton and sanders are virtual tie nationally. clinton just two points ahead of
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her democratic rival, 58-48 -- 50-48%, well within in the margin of error. that is that close, charlie. what do you make of this? >> being first lady is a popular position. michelle obama has 66% approval rating. hillary clinton is, you know, 10 point below that. 20 points below -- she literally holds a record low for first lady for the past three decades. this is somebody that everybody knows. obviously you know, part of that the fact she got into politics but she got into politics so, that is going to stay with her. and i would actually argue that with donald trump, you know, as much as he, a lot of people don't like him and he really brings out hatefulness in lot of people or dislike in a lot of people i think his image is a little bit more malleable. he has managed to win over certain people that you would never think he would be able to win over. and, then going back to what you were saying earlier about number
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of texas votes versus number of new york votes, i think that is kind of sort of a plus for trump in that he is at least playing in areas that, i mean, we haven't had republicans play in a very long time. even if he is not probably not going to win those in november. >> but that is the point, he will not win those in november. for you to say he is playing well in places like new york, means hillary clinton is playing well in places in the south she won the primary but she has no shot in the general. in donald trump is nominee apparently utah is in play. that is shock. the problem with her, with the dan ball story you alluded to, she is incredibly flawed candidate. i don't we ever had either side nominate candidates so flawed. she has negative 24 in her positives are -- almost twice better than trump. you're not running in a vacuum, right? you're not running against nobody. she will be running against somebody. if trump is nominee she is running against she will
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probably win the election. sandra: still when democrats are asked who is the best candidate to beat trump, this is what they say. the response, 65% hillary clinton, to 31% for bernie sanders. so they still see her, harris as the best option. harris: yeah, so you know what? i'm looking back to when she was up against barack obama. and it is really have to chap her hide to go forward and face potentially somebody could roll like blitzkrieg again, but we don't know how. he will take some negatives whittle them down to hashtag. we don't know what is coming. she knows him, she knows him well, she may know better than we do how tough it will be facing each other. come on, 18 million cracks in the seal, and what? i have got to space donald trump potentially. >> they're praying for donald trump to be nominee. harris: really? are they? >> they're praying for donald trump to get nomination. harris: crooked hillary, she ended up having answer back. >> bernie sanders is cult leader
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and has a bunch of cult followers. i saw people tweeting last night they would vote for trump over clinton. sandra: i asked charlie about this in the green room, he said what, charlie? >> i don't see that happening. harris: you think they're lying? >> i saw a bunch of tweets, putting great make america great. sandra: he says republican fantasy, bernie sanders supporters never hillarytrump will go vote for trump. never hillary i will say. >> bernie sanders supporters, young millenials really bought into this cult how angry they will be at her. they see her as rosswell conspiracy. sandra: meghan, do you buy into that theory? >> some young people will be angry at hillary clinton and vote for donald trump. >> i remember, i hate to bring this up, it involved your dad, oh, my goodness will go over the cliff for hillary clinton. never vote for barack obama. will have democrats voting for john mccain because they will
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never vote for barack obama. >> cult figure. never happened. >> she had a lot more support in 2008 than bernie sanders has today. >> i don't think she had this kind of cult following. it is a cult following and cult revolution. go hang out with bernie sanders supporters. they -- >> again it's math. it is math. the math shows she had more votes in 2008 than today. and they didn't do that they still went and voted for obama. harris: the answer the question about the group meghan is talking about, the fact that last night bernie sanders still outplayed hillary clinton when it came to those voters who were young under the age of 25. how is she going to get them? she might need them? >> look what is got him. it got him, i don't know, he is 277 delegates behind her? these voters, hate to say this. math is king here. sandra: julie keeping on track with the math. >> that is all about the math that is the problem.
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>> i still think she has a huge problem -- sandra: we're watching fox exit polls, new math there, julie revealing new concerns on republican side. after donald trump's big win in new york last night and a top political analyst says the republican party has been put in a terrible situation. more on that next. plus president obama arriving in saudi arabia today amid plenty of tension as the state department comes out with the disturbing admission about iran. the saudi's arch rival in the region. all that next. ♪
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♪ harris: welcome back on this fine hump day. new concerns for republican as it 2016 race is moving ahead. "fox news" polling shows from primary, 64% of voters says it divided party. 36% believe it energized the party and more than a third of
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republican voters, 35% say they would be excited donald trump is elected president. 22% say they would be scared if he wins the white house. fox news senior political analyst brit hume says the gop may have its hands tied on stopping a trump nomination. >> if the sentiment is as broad in the republican electorate that the nomination was stolen from the person that ought to have it, there is no hope in november, no hope of a united party. the republican party is in a terrible situation, which is as follows. if trump wins, his negatives in the general election as you point out are breathtakingly high. well higher than hillary's and hers are not any good and higher than cruz's. john kasich is not logical alternative even though he might pray he is. the result they will send a candidate with overwhelmingly unfavorables in to fight a candidate in the person of hillary clinton who has lower unfavorables but still bad. harris: you know, i hear him say
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all that, maybe this is the year where unlikeable and unfavorable people go into election and people choose based on different things? maybe they're looking at some different things rather than just how much you like or love a person? i don't know, just kind of hit me there. this is what also hits me. the rnc, do they still want to try to make the case that trump is not their guy at this point? i heard you say they have got to be careful? >> and they are being very careful. they're, that is why they're spending so much time talking about rules and process because they really want to drive home to people, you know, that they are not, they don't, that they don't have their thumb on the scale for anybody. harris: why is that important? >> because, i mean, like we said at the beginning, people feel like the system is broken. they think, they think everything is broken. they think politics is broken. and if you, and which is why donald trump has done so well because he is has tapped into that seething frustration. i think that is why bernie sanders has done well as well. but for totally different
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reasons. and i don't think you can really compare the two candidates beyond that. you know, trump and bernie. but, but, so if, in the end you have a person who wins the most vets but yet somehow doesn't get the nomination, it just feeds into that frustration that is it already there. harris: yeah, well, i know i heard you say trump is also very unpredictable. >> he is and also quite capable of, you know, changing, winning people over and changing his sort of demeanor so that -- sandra: i wonder how different his campaign looks from this day on? we know now that he is committing a lot of his own money to the race. that is different than how he has run his campaign so far. he has brought on really seasoned republican veterans. harris: using -- $20 million? that is not much to him. sandra: he would spend it on ads. he has didn't doning that. that changes the game. as you allude to last night he
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is calling him senator cruz? he is acting more presidential, will that change? >> does that turn off supporters who want presidential donald trump or old donald trump? he is in a tough bind. what is interesting for republicans, i don't take any joy because it plays havoc with a political party, donald trump mathematically almost impossible to get to 1237. it doesn't mean he will come close. you will have a decision people like reince priebus and others in the quote, unquote establishment need to make whether they give it to him if he comes up 40 short, 50 short, comes up couple hundred short i understand it become as brokered convention. do you get to together to say to ted cruz of the world, john kasich's of the world, listen the people clearly spoken, let's get united which have a candidate to pete on democratic side. if not it goes on to the summer and -- >> will ted cruz and
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john kasich -- i love that we're giving reince priebus that much can he credit but how much power does he have at this point with the candidates? harris: bret baier who sat in your seat yesterday, charlie, said there is another option. there are 41 days between the end of the primary season for republicans and the time they go to nominate their person. there could be some deal-making to get some of those delegates. you could still get to 1237 before you walk through the doors so when they take that first ballot you've got it. i want to ask you though, megan i heard you say you're concerned about your political party. what exactly are you concerned about? is it changed forever? do you want to see it go backwards. >> for example, i'm ardently pro-life. i don't believe donald trump is pro-life at all given answers on abortion. leader of a party, one specific issue, changing what it fundamentally means to be republican and to be conservative. that is what i worry about -- harris: if people choose that, don't you think that is where the party goes. >> his negatives filter down in congressional race, local races
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i feel like it will be goldwater, unmitigated bloodbath we lose everything because of negative poll numbers. i want to live in vacuum, great win for donald trump, there are 16 republicans in new york city he lost manhattan. you have to look at general election nobody knows better than me, primaries are not generals. how will this man not only unite our party but america as a whole? is too much damage done? harris: can ted cruz do it? >> ted cruz is whole other thing. i don't know if ted cruz can do it. i think a lot of his leans, especially on social issues make him possibly the same way. i think, i'm worried about my language, think we're basically in a horrible bind. i think we're in horrible bind with either way. right now we need to focus on local elections as well. sandra: also happening today, president obama visiting saudi arabia amid growing rift with the country. many expect today's visit with king salman to be tense as several issues are causing friction.
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that includes the obama administration's refusal to become more involved in syria. the 9/11 bill, if approved, could allow lawsuits against the saudi government and nuclear deal with iran. this as the state department admits it doesn't know if iran is using any of the money it recovered under that agreement. an estimated $3 billion to fund terrorism. here is state department spokesman john kirby. >> we don't know. we don't have a way, we don't have a way -- again 3 billion is estimate at best. we don't have perfect knowledge of what is actually been freed up for them and we don't have perfect knowledge of how every dollar of that is going to be spent. it is entirely possible they could use some of this funding to support terrorist networks. >> right. well, but can you say that you think or administration believes some of the 3 billion is used for this. >> no, i can not say that. we don't know. >> okay. but you don't know. so they could have used it all? >> matt, we don't know means we
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don't know. sandra: make gen mccain. >> i can barely watch that. we may or may not be funding terrorism with the iran deal. we may or may not give money to people who will kill us in new york city. it is crazy. number one reason obama legacy will be a huge failure. feckless foreign policy something out after bad movie. if it weren't so horrible i would be crying but i have to laugh. sandra: can you make sense of state department response? >> how will you account for it. stop nuclear program we'll turn money over to you. the foal is stop nuclear program i think in very narrow sense they succeed. what they do with the money afterwards is up to them. listen barack obama today in saudi arabia, our great ally, great sunni ally is either state sponsoring turning a blind eye to allies in the kingdom killing
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wahhabiism, probably responsible as killing more people around the world as iranians. our foreign policy for generations, for generations has been about propping up regimes that supported terrorism around the world that are certainly no, have no human rights element whatsoever to their own people, been responsible for american blood here at home and abroad. iran is one more example of that saudi arabia has been consistent example of that for probably last 50 years. yet here we are going over to saudi arabia, president going over there, preventing legislation that would hold accountable the saudis from disclosing or from families on 9/11 finding out whether saudis were responsible as a government what is going on. president of the united states and president before him and presidents in memorial doing the same this is yet another example of that. harris: you know what? comes back down to the iran deal for me, charlie. i want to know, i understand what you're saying julie, the anticipation was that we could stop -- we can't even stop the
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ballistic weapons program. have we really gotten anything from this deal? what did we get? >> the other thing from that clip with the state department spokesman did it is like like no one predicted this would happen. everyone predicted this would happen. harris: everybody predicted this would happen. >> iran has a long history of openly sponsoring terrorism. and it was, it is a terrible deal. but i think every bit ever alarming as that, cold shoulder administration given to israel. israel is our, we are their greatest, most important, most powerful ally and they are very valuable to us in the war on terror. for us to short-shrift that relationship over there is as disturbing as this. harris: doesn't it go further than that? not just short-shrifting the relationship but we're endangeringer them.
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>> somebody who is at lie of israel why is it okay for republicans criticize barack obama, democrats criticize george bush but why isn't okay to criticize bibi netanyahu without criticizing israel? you can criticize the particular prime minister of israel without being anti-israeli in as much as i can criticize george bush's policy without being anti-american and barack obama's policy without being anti-american. sandra: hold. that is a tease. we'll talk about the next block. we want to know what you say, charlie. hold on a second. new troubles with another one of our closest allies we talked about, with the white house defending vice president joe biden for criticizing the israeli government hours after a bus explodes in jerusalem. is the u.s. relationship with israel in jeopardy? charlie hurt weighs in. and the couch. harris: he does. ♪ e i'm terrible at golf.
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♪ harris: what did joe say? white house is defending vice president joe biden after he expressed, quote, overwhelmingly frustration with the israeli government. >> iirmly believe the actions the israeli government have taken over the past several years, steady expansion of settlements, legalization of outposts, land seizures, they're moving us and more importantly moving israel in the wrong direction. they're moving us towards a one-state reality and that reality is dangerous. harris: now white house press secretary josh earnest is being asked by our own peter doocy whether this criticism hertz u.s. and israeli criticism. >> what good does it do for anybody for the vice president to make israel our ally into a villain? >> i would vigorously disagree with that description of what vice president biden said. i think, vice president biden himself just having complete ad
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trip to israel within the laws four to six weeks here, is somebody who understands the importance ever the relationship between our two countries. when you have a strong relationship with your allies, you can also comfortably disagree in public and there are areas of disagreement, as a matter of policy. harris: oh, but it is the timing that makes this especially sticky for joe biden. he made those remarks house after a bus exploded in jerusalem. remember we covered this on "outnumbered." at least 21 people were badly injured. israeli officials called it a terror attack. what do you think about the words anytime you would say them. >> i certainly wouldn't have used them. but this isn't about words. it is not about criticizing the prime minister. it is about a policy of, policies across the entire middle east region that have made, demonstrably made israel less safe. it is empowered israel's greatest enemies, the iran deal
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is something that will live to haunt this country and israel and i pray that it doesn't haunt the country as badly as it very well could. and not just israel but, you know, they have made clear that they want to obliterate israel from the map, but as you were talking about earlier, with the warheads, it will not be long before they are able to reach into europe and reach into other parts, outside of the middle east region. it is terrifying and you know, this administration, you can't blame anyone as much as you blame this administration. harris: you know, if you look back, anybody who criticized that iran deal, certainly domestically, senator chuck schumer here in new york, even josh ernest admitted after he was attacked, he was against the iran deal. does that have anything to do with him being in the cross-hairs of the white house. you know he did go against it was josh earnest.
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benjamin netanyahu came to the country to talk about the deal. we covered it live on the show. i'm wondering if there is any retaliation or retribution? why is the relationship with the white house so poor with him? >> these comments should surprise us but they don't. we're talking about an administration wouldn't let netanyahu speak in front of congress. legacies of the obama administration and iran deal, fractured relationship with israel and putting them in direct danger administering that will be legacy we live with. it is nothing short of traffic. >> i have to pure back. nobody accused israel anti-manner because benjamin netanyahu spoke to congress. he vociferously criticized policy of the president. just because nobody said you criticize policy of the america -- he is going before k street and going in front of a
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group of activists in washington we disagree with netanyahu because he is not pushing hard enough the two-state solution. a lot of jewish voters agree with. he is not anti-israel. he is criticizing a policy he is not criticizing israel the country. not saying somehow the united states doesn't believe that israel doesn't have right to exist or not the strongest ally for us in the middle east. if we're not criticizing netanyahu for being anti-american we shouldn't criticize joe biden being anti--- harris: anti-american? we don't know what is in the deal because we can't see the side deals. we know there is dirt on the floor with all of that. sandra: julie, why is the fight so public? why can't they speak -- >> quite honestly netanyahu i think is frustrating character to a lost word leaders, not just this one. and i think barack obama is fed up with him. >> also a beloved leader but a lot of people. >> he is not beloved. got 25% of the vote from israeli public. >> internationally you could debate is he popular figure in
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different place. >> i don't agree with that. >> chanting death to america we're giving them money, we don't know if they're going to terrorism. paying that is little controversial as well. harris: glad you went first. >> and one more thing. harris: one more thing, julie says. not your mom's or dad's acceptance letter exactly. this mock ad is creating quitei. it talking about sex assault on college campuses. it's a letter. some people say it goes too far around may do more harm than good. >> dear, mr. president, you've been accepted to the class of 2021. [inaudible]. @e@8ñúñ÷@@@0@
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and we refuse to waste the greatest tv week this proud nation has ever known! but time is scarce my friends, so fetch your fancy voice remotes and join me! three, two, one... watchathon! big is back. xfinity watchathon week now until april 24. the greatest collection of shows free with xfinity on demand. sandra: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first let's get to jon scott with what is coming up in second hour of "happening now." hey, jon. >> hey, sandra. we're awaiting a trump rally in indianapolis this afternoon. also hillary clinton event in philadelphia. we will have analysis of the two candidates victories and look ahead to five primaries still less than a week from now. bernie sanders takes a break from the campaign trail after a big 16-point loss to hillary in the state which he grew up. he is back in his current home
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state of vermont. some are putting pressure on the senator to just get out of the race or at least soften the tone of his recent attacks. more on that. plus a big change for the nation's currency. andrew jackson is out. he will be replaced on the 20-dollar bill. we'll tell you who gets the new honor on our currency next hour. sandra: all right. we'll be watching. thanks, jon. >> thanks, sandra. >> the college acceptance letter get as grim makeover in student newspaper at harvard. this ad produced by organization as, don't accept rape and later obtained by campus reform was published in the "harvard crimson." it is part of a shock campaign aimed at promoting statistic that one in five women will be sexually assaulted in college. here is clip of fictional students opening a letter that will change their lives forever. >> dear mis-- congratulations you've been accepted into the class ever 12021.
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-- virginity through a racist. >> you will be violent i raped. >> becoming third victim. >> single day and then you're on your own. [laughter] [crying] >> we're next. [laughter]. >> oh, my god. ♪ >> that was uncomfortable to watch. i want to know from you because you have daughters? what do you think of that? >> if their goal is to shock people and get attention, i guess it succeeded, yeah it is very disturbing. i wouldn't be sending my kid to a college that, if i actually thought that, you know -- harris: yeah. it tells me two things. one they have a problem on campus that they're more concerned about telling the victim about than they are actually trying to fight the problem. the other thing i have a son, i mean are the boys getting those letters too?
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are they getting the opposite? am i understanding that they are? so now you're forcing a conversation that really should be happening in a very different way. sandra: actually they target men as well with the message they say one in five women will happen to, one in 16 men. to your point they didn't use men or boys receiving letters in the video. very harsh to watch. >> i got to say, listen, mission accomplished right? they brought attention to what they consider to be epdemmic on college campus. there are different statistics about this but there is certainly no question that rape and date rape does happen on college campuses. to what extent i'm not sure, but seems to be fairly prevalent. they seem to believe it is. uncomfortable to watch. that was the whole point, right. harris: mission accomplished really? wouldn't the mission be to solve it? >> listen acknowledging, i would think that they would argue acknowledging that the problem exists -- harris: i rather you send me a letter tells me how you will go after sexual predators and how
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you're not going to actually make other men on campus, young men on campus pay for your -- >> harris i think their point -- harris: are you going to tell the difference? >> their point in the ad, their point, they're saying colleges are not doing anything about it. they're not suspending these boys. so they have to bring it to our attention because they feel the administration is doing nothing. >> i would go so far, why don't you get self-defense classes as well to help deal with this. i'm not against women having guns and firearms to protect themselves. i'm a big second amendment and nlra person. this is fear-monger at its worst. when i went to college, moving to arizona from new york city. you will probably get raped when you go to college. will you not young women to go to college? i don't think it is effective at all. sandra: what action are they asking to you take? >> unenroll i think. >> the action is press the administration do something about it. columbia, you went to columbia, right, had that incidence,
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which people want to talk as which go on the web about the campus rape ad. they are jarred by it. they have different thoughts. sandra: much more on the 2016 elections. stay here for "outnumbered overtime" on the web, foxnews.com/outnumbered. we're back on tv tomorrow noon eastern. "happening now" starts right now. prompting homeland security to look at soft targets here at home. why bars and restaurants are the new focus. plus, it was one of the most horrifying crimes in modern american history. >> i department want to to

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