jon: in the second hour coming up, ric grenell on the president's trip to saudi arabia, chris wallace on domestic politics. >> we've got a lot of good stuff. check us out. jon: see you back here then. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ ♪ sandra: this is outnumbered, i'm sandra smith, what do they call this, thursday -- friday eve, harris? there she is, harris faulkner's here today, actress and commentator stacey dash and today's #oneluckyguy, judge alex ferrer, and he is -- well, you're used to this now, you're one of our favorites, you are outnumbered, sir. >> you are definitely my favorite. my favorite couch in the world. sandra: it's always good to have you. we have as much to talk about, let's get right to it. the countdown is on from the next batch of primaries in five states in the northeast where

donald trump and hillary clinton are hoping to bury their challengers for good. on the republican side, 172 delegates at stake. the big prize, pennsylvania, awarding 71 delegates. as trump is reportedly set to adopt a more traditional campaign, tactics he's talking about and reaching out to more republican leaders in washington. "the wall street journal" reporting the gop front-runner will start using, hold -- wait for this -- a teleprompter. he's got a speech writer, and he's going to be giving more policy addresses. at a town hall this morning, trump explained why he had to take off the gloves, so to speak, in his march to the nomination. >> i felt that i had to hit back very hard, and i think if i didn't, if i acted very presidential, i wouldn't be sitting up here today. somebody else might be, it wouldn't be me. i will tell you, it's easier for me to be presidential than for me to be doing what i've been doing for the last, really, nine months.

but at the right time, i will be so presidential, you will be so bored. you will say can he, can he have a little bit more energy? but i know when to be presidential. [laughter] sandra: plus, less than 24 hours earlier mr. trump revived his lyin' ted line of attacks and slammed clinton as crooked hillary after promising a softer tone. >> in the case of lyin's ted cruz, oh, he lies, millions of votes ahead of lyin' ted cruz. during one of the debates, they asked lying ted about waterboarding, and he didn't want to answer. they'll call him up and they'll say, the lobbyists, the special interests, he'll say, oh, okay, we won't do anything. sandra: judge, is that the softer tone he's promising? >> it lasted, what, a day? sandra: yeah. it lasts until about 7:33 in the

afternoon -- 3:33 in the afternoon. you could see it felt good. [laughter] didn't he look happy? >> you can imagine during the day he must have been like a heroin addict who's jonessing, because it's out of character for him. it's not who he is. the people who don't like him, they call him a absolutely garon or something, he's certainly not polished in a political sense. but the people who love him love that about him. yeah, he's a straight talker, you know? it's in his dna. i don't think he can pull it off. sandra: but that being said, let's at least give him a chance. he said he's going to work towards a softer tone in his campaign. stacey, he's hiring a speech writer, and he's going to the give policy addresses. they're hinting this first big rollout of a speech on jobs. stacey: right. i think he should not change the way he speaks. that's resonating with people. i think it's important to have a teleprompter, everyone should.

he's just showing us one of the steps he's taking to become more presidential. but, no, i do not think he should change his tone in any way. >> the problem with the teleprompter issue is he spent so much time criticizing politicians who use teleprompters, so now he's -- stacey: you know what? if he doesn't, he's going to be in trouble. if he doesn't do it, he's not -- sandra: harris, i want to get you in here because the big conversation on the republican level is, all right, if we're going to advise donald trump and he's going to be the nominee, what do we tell him to do? ari fleischer weighed in on what he needs to do going forward. listen. >> rev up a 35-40% base of the republican party, but he needs to rev up more. unless he is able to bring more people into his coalition, unless he's able to show that he can give policy speeches, that he can tone it down and be a person who can bring people to support him who may not have supported him in the past, he's going to get stuck at that level.

harris: you know what this also represents to me, is the ability to have message consistency. i mean, that's what a teleprompter will give you. that's also what a speech writer will give you. and he'll still be able to have his personality. i can't imagine the speech writer will write something that is completely oppositional to who we know donald trump to be. but it will give him that sort of studied perception, and he's needed that. he's taken a lot of criticism even within his own sporting circle -- supporting circle. he's got these meetings on capitol hill, he's got to show up as the guy who can unify the party. and i think that sort of crispness of messaging -- >> i think you're right -- harris: but he's already said it's going to make him more boring, so he's already ready for the criticism. melissa: it's going to be a balance. you know he's not going to be on prompter all the time. i'm sure that will be specific things. and in fairness, we saw that at aipac. he had a policy speech, he went off the prompter, and we haven't seen that again. we'll probably see more of that.

when he said lyin' ted, i think there was a message behind that both to his handlers saying, look, you can control me but not all the time, but to people out there saying i can tone it down, but underneath i'm still me. it's about striking that balance going forward, we'll see if he can do that. >> that's what they want. his followers, yes, he can be gruff, but their view is we've had right years of smooth talking, and look where it's gotten us? sandra: he's long touted the money he's spent on his campaign has been far less than his competitors, and here he is the front-runner. he spent $40 million in the first ten months of his campaign, now says he's going to be using $20 million in the next two months. stacey: right. and i think the prompter solution is giving him more substance, you know? he'll have more substance to say. i think he's going to say it the way he says it, but i think the prompter will give him more substance in what he says, more policy, more specificity. that's what we want. that's what the rnc wants.

sandra: and for those who have said he doesn't have the right temperament, this could change things, and they want more specifics from donald trump, right, judge? so he says he's going to start giving more policy speeches. >> yeah with. as long as he can, you know, gracefully transfer from teleprompters are ridiculous and these politicians are mouthing words begin to them, i think it's going to help him a lot because it's going to keep him focused on the message of simply attacking other people. he's going to bring out his policy statements. harris: all right, we'll move on. well, sort of. the republican national committee is in their second day of a three-day meeting before the party's convention in july. some rnc members are reportedly starting to warm up to the idea of a trump nomination. well, he's got 845 delegates, so jump in. the water is warm, he says. according to reuters, they want to see the billionaire do more than just mend fences and tone down his rhetoric, as we've just been talking about.

trump has repeatedly blasted the gop nominating process as a rigged system. chairman reince priebus again countering those claims saying the rules have been set more more than a century. >> the nominee has to have a majority of delegates supporting that person, and when someone gets a majority of delegates, they're going to be the nominee of our party. it's the same thing that abraham lincoln enjoyed, it's the same thing that's going to happen in 2016. harris: i will say that abraham lincoln, though, didn't have what we have today in terms of where this has been. seventeen candidates, i mean, it's been a long journey, and it hasn't all been about the guys who are in it now. saves taste no. it's been since 1968. harris: yeah. well, if we look at the total picture. so there was this memo, this internal memo within the trump campaign that may give us an idea of what the rnc maybe is looking at. because everybody has seen this memo now, right? there's one part i want to point to. this is his staff talking to

each other in a memo that's now out for everybody. building on our campaign staff to make sure we can win this thing on the up and up, not through a rigged set of rules. even the campaign memos take shot at the rnc. >> there's a lot of heat on the rnc, and as somebody who's not always focused on politics, i think the viewers at home don't understand where we have to have this system where you have super delegates and delegates who are unbound. if i -- if arizona votes for cruz, shouldn't all the delegates go with cruz, or shouldn't it be -- why should you have free-floating delegates? you won arizona. what it feels like to the viewer at home is, yeah, we're going to let you guys vote. we think that's actually cute. [laughter] and if you vote for the person we like, everything's going to be great. but if you don't, we've got this bank of delegates, and we're going to fix your mistake. and that is, plays right into the whole perception of a rigged

system. i can't argue against that. it looks bad. melissa: i don't know about the establishment warming up to trump. i mean, if you saw the rest of that interview with reince priebus with martha maccallum, he was testy. he was cranky with her. she was pressing him, and he did not like it one bit. he said if trump got the plurality as she kept pushing if he gets close but doesn't get there, he said that means the field has the majority. well, that's not really fair. he's saying it's everyone else against trump, everybody else has the majority, but everybody else still has less. and in any other year, i think, you know, for folks that had no mathematical way of getting to 1237, they would have dropped out. so to keep everybody in til end, that's not a normal year either. so i don't know about the establishment necessarily warming up. harris: another thing that the establishment may be looking at are these numbers. on the republican side as we head into the next super tuesday -- what is this, like part five -- [laughter]

172 delegates are at stake in the five voting states, and that includessed the 71 from pennsylvania where trump is up. and again in that poll we're seeing ted cruz again in third place just like he was in new york early on. what are your thoughts about that? >> i think that the rnc has no choice but to the warm up to donald trump at this point. i think what they're facing is if they continue being antagonistic to donald trump, then they better get used to president hillary clinton. when it goes to the convention if donald trump doesn't end up with the votes, his voters stay home because of the rigged system, and the leader, the nominee loses to hillary. if donald trump wins, they have divided the party. so much by being anti-trump that other people who wouldn't have voted for trump won't come. so hillary wins. they have to rally around whoever wins. harris: so that's one scenario. there's also coupling with that, stacey, the possibility that, a, they'll stay home, b, they might not come back. are we looking at a completely

changed, blown-up republican party if they don't do it along the lines? stacey: that's why reince has to make sure that he knows the party is going to represent the people -- harris: what you're seeing from some of these republicans is they're saying the rhetoric has to end. that was the chairman of the montana republican party, but also matt moore, south carolina republican party chairman, he's saying he likes the seasonedblie part of -- harris: the paul manaforts -- sandra: that are also reasons for them warming up. harris: they're starting to look more traditional. they're doing this memo every day, and that's something a more traditional campaign would do. anyway, be sure to tune in this sunday night after fox report at 8 p.m. eastern. bill hemmer, martha maccallum will host america's town hall live from philadelphia.

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♪ ♪ melissa: despite his big loss in new york, bernie sanders is not going away. the vermont senator back on the campaign trail speaking to supporters in scranton, pennsylvania, after taking a day off to, quote, recharge. he insists he still has a path to the nomination, writing in an e-mail to supporters, quote: next week five states vote, and there are a lot of delegates up for grabs, and i am going to

keep fighting for every vote, for every delegate because each is a statement of support for the values that we share. notice that language. [audio difficulty] super delegates are at stake, the most in pennsylvania where a brand new monoout monmouth univy poll shows hillary clinton 13 points ahead. okay. i would ask the couch, what is the standard now for getting out? because -- [laughter] harris: my kids. my 6-year-old does this to the 9-year-old. she just hangs in there until she gets her way, right? [laughter] bernie sanders, what does he want? >> it's the war of attrition. harris: exactly. we don't know what he wants. i for a long time said because of the number of the delegates and the super delegates, he might not be pushing to get into the white house, but there might be something short of that, changing the agenda in his particular political party. because he's hanging in to get what he wants. melissa: we've seen the line move.

you heard ted cruz say there's no meth mat call way to get there -- mathematical way to get this, he doesn't feel the same way anymore. so looking at the democrats, sandra, what is the standard? when you run out of money -- sandra: well, that's not happening with him. have you seen his fundraising? melissa: right? or when it's mathematically possible to get there or when you drop dead because you can't keep going? that's not an age thing. it's from exhaustion. i wouldn't have made it that far. sandra: he's going to stay in as long as he thinks he's having impact on his party, as long as he thinks he's having an impact on hillary clinton's campaign. look how far to the left he has dragged her from where she was initially was. clinton's campaign manager points out something interesting because sanders' campaign is saying their viable path is clinton's unbound super delegates, they're ready to jump ship. but the clinton's campaign manager points out, i find that

odd because a few months ago sanders' campaign was defying super delegates saying they're undemocratic. my, my, how just a few days -- melissa: you're seeing politicianing change the facts? i budget talking about him being old, i was saying i couldn't do what these candidates are doing no matter what. >> i think some of them think they have a legitimate shot. if he does, it's a zombie campaign. it's dead, but no one's told him yet. [laughter] i think he knows it's a long shot. he's not going to get super delegates to jump to him because they know that electing a socialist is going to be an act of god, it's not even going to be an act of congress. i think he's in it for whatever he can extract, beneficial aspects of his campaign, like can he get focus on the policies that he's trying to espouse? can it maybe land him something within the administration? i don't know, maybe.

melissa: stacey, what do you think? he's fun to watch. stacey: yeah. i'm terrified when i watch him. i'm always afraid he's going to -- i hate to say it, but i'm scared. please, don't keel over. melissa: oh! stacey: i'm very nervous. i don't mean that -- i really do get nervous. sandra: you're not feeling the bern, stacey. stacey: no, i'm not. he is the only socialist, that's why he's staying in. melissa: yeah? harris: i want to step in with this. the new monmouth university poll is out, and sometimes you'll see this happen. people will start to, i guess, get on the bandwagon. in maryland there are only 38 delegates up for grabs, but clinton is leading sanders by 25 points. this just out. she currently holds that commanding lead as they look into next year's maryland primary. melissa: yeah. harris: it's interesting. sometimes you'll see this, you know? they'll kind of puck up steam. sometimes they're tighting. but this late in the game --

>> do you know what's shocking to me? every election it seems like we are voting for the lesser of two evils. but this year i think social ito pronounced. so many people dislike hillary, dislike donald, and they are likely to be the nominees for each party. harris: maybe that's not what counts anymore. maybe it's just not a popularity contest anymore. melissa: there you go. he also makes a great point, he says the people of every state have the right to weigh in. it's sort of crazy that states at the end don't have their vote count as much in this process. harris: from what i just mentioned. melissa: all right. as president obama continues his overseas visit, a startling new report says he has been asking in recent months to meet with the leaders of iran in person. the white house says there are no plans in place, but is that a denial? in his meeting with -- and is meeting with the rogue nation a good glad. plus, some calling the plan to remake the $20 bill an effort

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there are certainly no plans for an in-person visit. here are some of iran's recent provocations. in december, firing missiles within 1500 feet of the uss harry truman. in march, test firing ballistic missiles marked with anti-israel writing. this month the regime displaying new weapons parts acquired from russia and launching a new rocket the u.s. views as a long path to long-range missiles or, i should say, a short path. and, of course, iran's humiliating capture of our u.s. naval sailors in the persian gulf just in january. so a lot to look at there in terms of what they've been doing, judge. >> yeah. harris: and then our president goes, and we find out about these letters. >> yeah. i mean, of course, you have to have diplomacy. you just have to. but sooner or later you realize that, you know, it's not working with this particular regime. you know, the carrot and stick approach is great, but it just seems like we're always throwing bushels of carrots at them and waving a twig.

harris: we're getting poked with a stick, that's for sure. >> yeah. [laughter] stacey: yeah. this is islamic fascism, and that's the problem. we're calling it islamic terrorism, islamic extremism. those are all tactics of a government. and that's what we're not dealing with, okay? he's meeting with these people when he should be meeting with people that i met with. i met with a man who is the head of democracy in iran, his name is sharif. i'm meeting with him in paris where thousands of people will gather for peace in iran. these are the people he should be meeting with, not meeting with people who fund and help hezbollah, who support the shia government in baghdad, who support bashar assad. they should not. this should not be happening. enough is enough already. and you're saying, you know, we're dangling a carrot? no. it's like harris said, we're being poked. and, i mean, the sailors on their knees, that should have been the final straw. harris: melissa?

melissa: you know, when you teach negotiation, they talk about you have to give more to get more, you know, come to the table with what it is you're willing to offer, and you know what it is the other side really want withs. we have been giving a lot more without demanding more. i understand the administration has said get everybody to the table, that this is a new leaf we are turning over, but when you hook what's been done -- you look what's been done, even drawing the red line in syria and allowing them to march over it. if he wants to try this other tactic of engagement, you have to even once you've given be sure that your demands are met. that's where we've been falling short. harris: you know, sandra, the big question in my mind is why the president thought he could have his sort of disraeli moment with saudi arabia and iran in particular. i say saudi arabia because we've heard him say about those two countries this week that they need to be better neighbors with each other. you know, no one has asked the questions about what we're going to do with the refugees and why

our good friend, saudi arabia -- with the big tent city that could hold three million people -- isn't taking any. but he's looking at them to be better neighbors with iran, yet he does this deal with all the secret sidebars. sandra: so in this meeting where obama's trying to reassure allies in saudi arabia, their getting together. they say there's going to be no major announcement, but rob malley telling reporters the leaders would talk about how to shore up their security and, second, how we we could work together to more effectively deal with the regional conflicts tearing the region apart, and you just wonder what sort of message we're sending to our allies, judge. >> well, i think our allies are kind of numb to it now. it's been eight years, specifically our closest ally, israel. i don't remember a more unfriendly administration to our closest ally in the middle east. i think what they've gotten is

the impression over the last eight years that they can't really count on us. harris: you know, melissa, i wonder where this really leaves israel and now saudi arabia in the same vote. sandra: we've got to get to this story. it's getting a lot of reaction today. treasury secretary jack lew announcing andrew jackson will be replaced on the front of the new $20 bill with abolitionist harriet tubman who head hundreds of slaves to freedom on the underground railroad. jackson, america's seventh president, will be demoted to the back. the $10 and $5 bills will see changes too. alexander hamilton remains on the front of the $10 bill, but on the back we will see some of the women who fought for a women's right to vote incluing sojourner truth, susan b. anthony and elizabeth katie stanton.

and finally on the back of the five, we will see noted figures from the civil rights era; classical singer marian anderson, eleanor roosevelt and martin luther king jr. stacey, i've got to get to you first on this, because it's got everybody's attention. what do you make of it? >> i think it's great, you know, that harriet tubman is going to be on the $20 bill. i don't know about everything el, changing everything. as long as benjamin stays on the 100, that's all i care about. [laughter] that's all i carry. harris: wow! sandra: so andrew jackson, a slave owner. this is a very controversial decision. donald trump weighed in today saying this is more political correctness. >> yeah. it's a tough word, isn't it? sandra: thanks, judge. your thoughts. [laughter] >> okay. so my thoughts, yes, he definitely had a background that, you know, gave ammunition to people who say he shouldn't be on the 20.

don't forget his antagonism and, god, it's much more than that, to the american indians, the whole trail of tears and all of that stuff as well as being a slave owner. there are plenty of reasons to pick somebody else, but he's part of american history at a time where that was the norm in american history. frankly, i care more about the value of my $20 bill than i do who -- sandra: okay, good point. >> as long as it's worth money. sandra: all right. why are we trying to rewrite history? and, by the way, these changes we will not see take effect for many years to come in most cases. harris: yeah, okay, a note on that. just before we came out to do the show the treasury department said the designs will be unveiled in 2020 to coincide with the anniversary of the 100th anniversary of the 19th amendment, suffrage. i want to walk around with your purse, with all the benjamins in it.

[laughter] sandra: stacey dash. harris: we've been talking on the couch in recent weeks about universities that are sanitizing their western civilization courses and, you know, if this is what it takes to get people to talk about history no matter what it is -- a lot of people owned slaves, by the way, sadly. >> it was the time. harris: we do need to talk about history, and i just fear if we take away the prompts in society and also at some of our better universities not teaching certain classes because we're sanitizing -- when are our kids going to know what happened and how are they going to know better than to repeat it in the future? melissa: i like that in a lot of cases they're adding people. you have that bill there -- harris: this is the judge's, by the way. melissa: there is no face on the back. so in a lot of these cases, there's going to be a face on the front and the back. a refresh is nice. but i want to go back to the point of we're so worried about who's on the bill as opposed to what it's worth -- [laughter]

and median income and how households are doing. i mean, this huge discussion around history and the whitewashing of history, but at the same time, i mean, our monetary policy is really adrift in this country, and families have fewer and fewer of all of these bills in their wallet. that's what we should be talking about, that's what the outrage is around. and when donald trump talks about are we becoming too p.c., let's get back to the economy for a second. sandra: i would expect nothing less from the woman they call "money." [laughter] harris: and the bills won't be in circulation until 2030. both of you guys could school us all on how much this bill's going to be worth by then. [laughter] sandra: right. well, maybe having a woman, maybe that's not such a bad idea. all right, celebrities fighting back against the tabloids. could be singer blake shelton the latest to take them to court over a story he claims was wrong and damaged his reputation. how will this all play out? we've got a judge on the couch,

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and has damaged his reputation. the judge denying the magazine's motion to dismiss the suit saying, quote: a reasonable person viewing the "in touch" headline ands subheadlines -- which were located 30 payments away from the article -- might well have concluded that shelton had, in fact, entered rehab after his friends begged him to stop jocking about drinking and get -- joking about drinking and get help. the magazine responded, quote: minds of right-thinking persons, it would be entirely commendable for shelton to seek rehab considering his undisputed history of bragging about his own drunkenness. unquote. judge, i'm going to differ to you here. >> okay. that seems fair. sandra: what do you think? who has a case here? >> well, i think shelton -- obviously, the judge agrees that shelton has a case here. the tabloids are really forever, as long as we can remember, really taken advantage of the protections that are given to the media in this country under

the first amendment for freedom of the press -- melissa: especially against public people. >> exactly. what happens is the media has a certain amount of protection in and of itself because it's the media, but then if the individual's a public figure, then the standard for proving defamation and for winning the case is much higher. if it's an ordinary person, they just have to show that they were negligent and published a defamatory statement. if it's a public figure like blake shelton, they have to prove actual malice meaning they intention aally maligned and defamed him or almost the equivalent of intentionally doing it. and in this case, you know, this seems clear to me that it's a jury question as to whether or not it's defamatory, whether he suffered damages -- sandra: so what if you were on that jury, what would you decide? >> i haven't heard the case, that's pretty presumptuous -- sandra: the publication is saying it's prescriptive. they're saying based on his drinking habits -- can which he

makes very public, by the way. he's always joking that in his starbucks cup it's vodka, whatever. the magazine is saying this is merely prescriptive. it's titled "rehab for blake." he finally hits rock bottom. is that enough of a case. >> and that's the question for the jury. it's one thing to say, to joke like a lot of celebrities do -- remember dean martin used to joke about drinking -- harris: that was kind of the rat pack thick. >> -- it's not thing to publish on the cover of your magazine rehab for blake which basically says he's an alcoholic, and he's checked into rehab. harris: i have tmz, and they've got blake shelton talking about all the stuff that he says, the laundry list of things that i never did the magazine published that got wrong. i have not been to rehab, i have not hit rock bottom, i did not have a drinking problem. i do not drink vodka before 11 a.m., and it goes on and on and on.

don't the facts count, and who would give the facts? stacey: the person. the person who's being defamed. the best way is to go on and say this is true or not true. you can't bring it into court because all it's going to do is drag on, like you said. you don't know if you have of a case, there's so many variables that it just becomes a bigger mess than necessary. >> but if you don't bring it into court like carol burnett did, some others did, these tabloids -- melissa: but this is my point, who believes it? >> the people who read tabloids. melissa: lock at the other things -- look at the other things, beyonce pregnant. if that were true -- jennifer aniston would have, like, 50 kids by now. harris: look at the whole janet jackson thing. there was more talk about whether or not she was pregnant and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, before anything had ever been said about her taking a break -- stacey: the problem is if you bring it to court, you just bring more attention to it.

and a lot of times -- russell simmons just said very false things about me and my family which was completely irresponsible and just not allowed. it's just something you don't do. you don't talk about people's children. harris: so how do you handle it? >> you try to handle it the best you can privately, i think that's the best way, by addressing the person -- harris: because kids are involved. melissa: when i was on little house on the prairie, there were a lot of things on the cover of the inquirer that were true -- >> they've broken a lot of stories. sandra: or they've said things that have become true later. [laughter] >> psychics. sandra: she is the proud mom of three kids, but little ones don't always mind their manners, let me tell you. the lessons she taught these little ones that has some people calling her, quote, the meanest mom ever. ♪ ♪

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second hour of "happening now." jon: in our next hour, bernie sanders back on the campaign trail today. no indication he has any plans to get out of the race despite a walloping in tuesday's new york primary. we will have the arguments for and against bernie getting out. also hillary clinton holding an event right now, an anti-gun forum in hartford, connecticut. new polls show she's got a big advantage in pennsylvania, delaware and maryland. chris wallace on where the race stands now. he also will weigh in on donald trump and polls showing he is likely to have a good night on tuesday. trump has said he's changing some elements of his campaign. is this the new and improved donald trump? we'll get into it with chris ahead on "happening now." harris: we'll see you then, thanks. >> it's the case of the so-called meanest mom ever. reality tv star jamie sullivan

says she took her kids, ages 5, 7 and 8, out for ice cream. none of them thanked the server, they just dug in. so she took their treats away and tossed them in the trash. then she posted on facebook writing: all three launched into mass hysteria. i waited, quiet, calm. when they realized i had something to say, i explained that one day if they were lucky, they would work a job like that young lady, and i would hope that people would see them, really see them, look them in the eye and say thank you. her post went viral. some praising her parenting skills, others saying she overreacted, traumatizing her children. so she responded in a video. >> to anybody who thought that i was traumatizing them, great. add it to my list of amazing motherly attributes. and to anyone who's, like, you overreacted, you should have tried a, b and c. really, ladies? this ain't my first day at the rodeo. you think i haven't tried reminding them, giving them a

soft nudge? i'm over it. they will learn now. harris: wow. sandra: whatever. sorry. [laughter] harris harris the ratings on that show such that she feels like she needs to do something outrageous? because she could have just handled it privately. >> what do you think? she traumatized -- harris: i just told you what i think. i think it's ratings. >> do you think can her children now have triggers for the rest of their life, every time they see ice cream, they're going to hit the floor -- [laughter] harris: i don't think she made this about the kids at all, she made it about herself. that's my whole point, how are the ratings on that show? melissa: or she didn't have to televise it. i don't think the action, though, is traumatizing. and i have three kids myself around the same age. sometimes you need to take big action to have an impact both positive and negative. i mean, i would say, for example, i drop my kids off at school every day, i'm not there to pick them up because i'm here at work.

someday when you surprise them and it's a huge positive surprise, it's the same thing the other way when you have to take away the thing they love because they've done something. here she's making the point she waited for them to say thank you, she's asked a thousand times, they didn't look at the woman, say thank you, make eye contact, she was furious and threw it away. yes, it was wasteful -- harris: thank you. melissa: it is wasteful, but -- >> you're focusing on the price of ice cream? melissa: impact, they will not forget it. she did not need to post it. >> i don't know that she did this opportunistically to bump the ratings or not, but if i wasn't hooked to a microphone, i would stand up and give her a standing ovation. i see these kids who grow up with no discipline at home -- wait one second -- i see them later on because they grow up with no discipline at home, so they show no respect for anyone, and sooner or later they end up in a courtroom. either you discipline your own children or years later a judge

like me is going to, and it's a lot more life-altering. sandra: it was too public. >> she didn't have to post it. >> sandra: discipline your kids in privacy. it was wasteful, and to have a temper in a -- >> we seriously talking about the price of ice cream? sandra: i have a solution for this mom: don't hand the ice cream cones over until they say please and thank you. >> i like that. [laughter] harris: video that goes viral. again, that narrative is about parenting and the kids. the narrative she created was about herself. >> she may have been doing it for opportunistic reasons, but those kids -- harris: we've got to break in with this thing we've been watching. in minnesota, prince -- the superstar, prince -- his compound, his home is located, and we've just been told and we're learning more details

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we're going to scoot and get right now to "happening now." a fox news alert. we are getting word of a death investigation at the minnesota home of singer/songwriter prince. he played on thursday and home. the jet had to make an emergency landing. he reportedly taken a bad case of the flu. he was hospitalized. and now there is an investigation of a death at the home and recording studios that prince has. several outlets reported that the singer himself passed away. we cannot confirm that. police are investigating a death at the home of